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User ID: 32132795 United States 10/13/2020 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Stohaaap. With your lies. Ken My personal thoughts & posts are mine alone. I Love God, Jesus, good people, and the U.S.A. the way the Framers signed the Constitution and Bill of Rights. In my real world life I don't have a problem with standing up to those with solid evidence of corruption from either side, of any issue or place. Many are they in this world that need to be rooted out. That makes me a target to be destroyed by very powerful people, I understand this. At some point we have to stand up for what is right before God. I have done this, lived this way, and will continue to do so till they finish me off or I croak of natural causes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79485820 10/13/2020 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's not how this works. Just because they collide doesn't mean the debris all rains down at the sub satellite point of the collision. In fact much of it will remain in orbit for years to come if that were to happen and pose a collision threat to other low orbit satellites. Some of it may end up on an immediate suborbital trajectory, but that does not mean it automatically lands in Antarctica. Some of it could even re-enter half an orbit later on the other side of the world. Kessler Syndrome...... We would be grounded for a long damned time. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79470017 United States 10/13/2020 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1316147305125490694 Just a heads up. Both are defunct, one is a Chinese rocket stage from 2009, the other is an old Russian satellite launched in 1989. Thanks for the heads up Astro. Do you think that any collision of these two would be observable in any way? |
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(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 10/13/2020 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1316147305125490694 Just a heads up. Both are defunct, one is a Chinese rocket stage from 2009, the other is an old Russian satellite launched in 1989. Thanks for the heads up Astro. Do you think that any collision of these two would be observable in any way? Not from my location, you would probably have to be in South America at least. |
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User ID: 79280147 United States 10/13/2020 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | https://twitter.com/_/status/1316147305125490694 Just a heads up. Both are defunct, one is a Chinese rocket stage from 2009, the other is an old Russian satellite launched in 1989. This is why 42,000 Starlink satellites orbiting the Earth is such a bad idea. Everything's fine until two things run into each other and pieces go flying. They hit a couple satellites and MORE pieces circling the planet. It wouldn't take long until we're under a blanket of space junk and nobody gets off this rock. Not to mention the effect on telescopes. Astro would have to switch to terrestrial targets, i.e. house and apartments with curtainless babes. Last Edited by IAMTHATGUY on 10/13/2020 09:41 PM "Peace in our time? All it took was everybody about to die." “The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.” - Amos Burton |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79435722 United States 10/13/2020 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13850478 This thread has nothing to do with Apollo and no telescope on Earth can resolve anything left on the moon. Only telescopes orbiting the moon can do that. Stop trying to derail the thread you idiots. ...they can't,,,,Truth has a certain ring to it. Thank you for this. |
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(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 10/13/2020 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No they didn't They never ever show a rocket going all the way up. They always cut to a camera that's strapped on the side, which makes it easy to fake the entire thing. Show me footage from another rocket trailing the main one all the way into "space" You can't provide that. So it's all bullshit. "Here's an unreasonable goal post that would cost millions of dollars and accomplish nothing all to prove to idiots who won't accept it anyway that they were wrong." Meanwhile... Also... Yes, I have personally measured the distance to multiple probes and satellites and proven they really are in space. You can trace back their trajectories right to the vehicle that launched them. I've done it myself. Last Edited by Astromut on 10/13/2020 09:57 PM |
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User ID: 9653749 United States 10/13/2020 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why doesnt NASA make a maneuverable orbiting space vacuum to suck up all the space junk instead of wasting billions on a boring space station? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79467256 [link to futurism.com (secure)] [link to www.sciencealert.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 79429359 United States 10/13/2020 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79399021 You can fuck off too. Astro posts amazing things on GLP you are either too stupid or ignorant to understand. Astro is providing a great service, you should appreciate and try to understand what he posts instead of backing the flat earth morans. Smoke me a kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast. If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools. — Plato “AI is kind of a fancy thing, first of all it’s two letters. It means artificial intelligence.” Kamala Harris VPOTUS |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75878964 United States 10/13/2020 10:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That doesn't prove it's real Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79340916 It's not showing the thing going all the way into space Epic fail False. I've shown it going all the way to space and coming back to land in one continuous shot. You are a liar and you are banned from my threads. Stop trespassing. There are a lot of threads.... do we have any E.L.E. Coming soon? |
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(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 10/13/2020 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79399021 You idiots come on to my threads and try to derail them with your science denying bullshit, and then you get upset when I respond in kind? You have no room to complain. I have provided free open source software to track satellites like these, anyone can download it, anyone can use it, free of charge. I've proven my expertise on this subject and I have earned a modicum of respect. If you don't like it, stay off my threads. Otherwise I will treat you with the same level of disrespect. |
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(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 10/13/2020 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That doesn't prove it's real Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79340916 It's not showing the thing going all the way into space Epic fail False. I've shown it going all the way to space and coming back to land in one continuous shot. You are a liar and you are banned from my threads. Stop trespassing. Lmao you're so mad. You didn't prove a thing pal. You shooting the thing from the ground doesn't prove how far up it went. Absolute epic fail. Wrong. You can measure the angular size of the rocket and determine how high up it went. I have done this. It went into space. No I explained exactly why they are are false. Does a rocket in space push off a bullet or a metalframe? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77003244 No metal frame, no apparatus at all, just a rocket working in space: Measurements made from the video indicate that the booster is above the Karman line and in space during the boostback burn. My telescope has an altitude dial on the side which was previously recorded using a gopro during launch. From my launch viewing site, the telescope is angled up about 40 degrees above the horizon during the boostback burn. This sped-up video is zoomed in the altitude dial, apologies the resolution isn't good enough to read the numbers but you can see where the numbers are marked and they're in 10 degree increments, the video starts at launch (0 degrees) and ends at the end of the boostback burn (40 degrees): [link to drive.google.com (secure)] At launch the Falcon boosters are about 22 pixels wide in my camera: [link to drive.google.com (secure)] I'm 21.1 km from the launch site and the boosters are each 3.7 meters wide, so that corresponds to an angular size of 0.01 degrees. By the end of the boostback they're only about 3.2 pixels wide: [link to drive.google.com (secure)] Given that we know from the launch that a 3.7 meter wide booster is 22 pixels wide in the view from 21.1 km, that means a pixel size of 3.2 pixels corresponds to an angular size of about 0.00146 degrees. The range between my telescope and the booster is therefore about 145 km at that time. Given that it's about 40 degrees above the horizon, then even if we assume a flat earth the altitude above the ground of the booster was roughly 122 km. Let's be generous here and say I could be about 5 degrees off on either side of that 40 degree measurement. Even at 35 degrees above the horizon the altitude (even assuming a flat earth) would be 102 km. At 45 degrees it would of course be 145 km above the earth. So it was somewhere between about 102 - 145 km in altitude, above the Karman line and in space. My video indicates it had no trouble reversing course to come back and land near the launch site. Please show your evidence that the video indicates it was not in space. Last Edited by Astromut on 10/13/2020 10:08 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76792534 United States 10/13/2020 10:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This has all of the stink of a FF! Quoting: WyatteSmith If we start hearing about the Kessler syndrome, something might be about to touch off.... [link to www.spacelegalissues.com (secure)] Interesting and thank you Astro! . When the space war breaks out, and it will break out, the orbital debris field will be so great that man will never be able to go into space again. |
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