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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79496395 Australia 10/23/2020 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll give you a few you can start with: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79496395 *Wind turbines across hundreds of kilometres - always vertical and parallel. *Buildings across a huge urban area - always vertical and parallel. *Power poles on very long straight roads - always vertical and parallel. I'll wait. They are not parallel. In case you want to say that the angle is imperceptible because it is too small to see, here's the numbers: For every 111km horizontal distance, there is 1degree of tilt "assumed" on a round earth. Exactly. You cannot see this with your bare eyes. How would you look at two towers 111km apart at the same time and be able to see one degree angle between them? Do you have any idea how tall these towers would have to be? But it can certainly be done with laser interferometry or if you don't have the tech then just measure the angle in both places at the same time with the stars as reference, this has been done already long before we had laser interferometers to determine the earth radius. yes so the curve of the earth is far too large to perceive, yes exactly this means the OP and the picture of curvature is a lie On a clear day, easily. It is possible see up to about 300km depending on the clarity of the atmosphere. Humans also perceive verticality very well. It should absolutely be perceptible. There are many examples of vertical objects progressing to the horizon. Have you ever verified yourself with lasers? I haven't. I'd love to! I have with scopes though. Using the stars as a reference would be falling back to the assumptive "representational" model where you can get the same result regardless of the assumptive premise. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79496395 Australia 10/23/2020 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. This is an (almost) horizontal structure, it is easier to look along such a thing and see its actually curved. You can't see from that perspective that the poles are not parallel, for this you would have to look at it from the side and then the first and the last pole would be too far apart to judge their angle. Have you actually tried it? I doubt it, because you are wrong about the precision of the human eye. |
Bernd1911
User ID: 79528235 Germany 10/23/2020 05:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The geometry: two parallel steel rails, one on the ground, the other one metre above. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79496395 At 28 kilometres, the top rail should be significantly longer. No? Yes. It will be 7 millimeters longer. lol... Show your working? ... but I believe you are about right! I never actually did the math on that one until just then, and just assumed there was a significant difference. Its easy. And I even made a small mistake because I had the circumference in miles instead of kilometers, this kind of error can crash space probes into distant planets. It turns out the difference is even less: 1 meter additional radius (if it would go the whole circle) would make a differene in circumference of 2 * pi * 1m = 6.28m Now we have only a tiny fraction of this, only 28km of 40000km. So the difference scales down by the same factor: 2 * pi * 1m * 28 / 40000 = 0.0043m = 4.3mm Less than half a centimeter. Last Edited by President Erect on 10/23/2020 05:36 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78903490 United States 10/23/2020 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So here is the LOW IQ of Ballers... they see this post and look at the black and white hand drawn pictoral of the power poles and lines top being flat... TOTALLY disregarding the ACTUAL photo which shows the top of the bridge curving at the same curve as the bottom of the power poles and lines.... Your problem to begin with is YOU WILL ALWAYS REFUSE TO OPEN YOUR EYES AND THINK WITH AN OPEN MIND. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78903490 United States 10/23/2020 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you are ever in a really long straight hallway and you look at the end of it you will notice it becomes small at the very end, kinda like the hallway in Willie Wonka and the Chocolate factory. When you look up at the ceiling and wall where they meet you will notice the two corners begin to sort of come together and if the hallway is really long you will see them actually come together at the far far end and drop. Its easy to test for yourself and that is what happens with these power lines. In fact if there were two sets of lines side by side and you were in the middle between them you would see the same effect. Also, if you use a zoom lens you will see what appears to be a curve and end of the poles become visible as though you are only a few feet away and yet they are completely disappeared. This is basic stuff that even low iq people can understand. Stop buying into .gov nasa propaganda folks... seriously... |
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User ID: 79194158 Brazil 10/23/2020 07:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77156420 I can understand how you came to that conclusion, however, you came to that conclusion due to faulty logic. You need to first understand what a synchronous orbit is. If you understand the physics of it then you will realise the flaw in your logic. I'll give you a simple analogy. Imagine yourself holding a taught rope which is tied to a metal pole, and where you are rotating around this pole. As you circle the pole, you are always facing the centre axis of rotation (the pole) due to the forces keeping you there (the rope). Your orbit around the pole is said to be synchronous. Now, imagine the rope is tied around your waist so you are able to turn as you circle the pole. As long as your rotational speed (turning in a circle) is constant, you will always face the pole at the same time interval no matter what your position you happen to be at in the orbit around the pole. That's about as clear as I can explain it in layman terms. I'm happy to detail the actual physics of it, and I think you would find it quite interesting too. I understand what you are saying but if that were the case then there would be no need to compensate by adding 3 min 56 seconds to the actual rotational time of the earth would there? Happy to hear any further explanations you might have. Seems like you didn't understand as you think you did... Seems like you're only here to dissemble and attack without actually addressing the points raised. If as this poster posted is the case then we would use the actual 23hr 56min 4 seconds to measure a day and not a 24hr one. It's not beyond human with to work with a 23h 56min 4 sec clock. I get it, you hate people who believe in God, that's your problem bucko, not mine. Neither did you. Look at OP. I didn't "attack" anybody, just quoted facts. I don't hate people who believe in god, I hate the belief in god itself, not the believers. MaybeTrollingUAgain |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79368587 Japan 10/23/2020 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68834533 I understand what you are saying but if that were the case then there would be no need to compensate by adding 3 min 56 seconds to the actual rotational time of the earth would there? Happy to hear any further explanations you might have. Seems like you didn't understand as you think you did... Seems like you're only here to dissemble and attack without actually addressing the points raised. If as this poster posted is the case then we would use the actual 23hr 56min 4 seconds to measure a day and not a 24hr one. It's not beyond human with to work with a 23h 56min 4 sec clock. I get it, you hate people who believe in God, that's your problem bucko, not mine. Neither did you. Look at OP. I didn't "attack" anybody, just quoted facts. I don't hate people who believe in god, I hate the belief in god itself, not the believers. If you don't love them , then you hate them. And if you don't know God , then you don't know what real love is. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75921718 Australia 10/23/2020 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like you're only here to dissemble and attack without actually addressing the points raised. If as this poster posted is the case then we would use the actual 23hr 56min 4 seconds to measure a day and not a 24hr one. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68834533 It's not beyond human with to work with a 23h 56min 4 sec clock. I get it, you hate people who believe in God, that's your problem bucko, not mine. Earths rotation, 1 turn, is 360 deg and is completed in a fraction of time less than it takes for the observation of the sun to appear in the same place in the sky at a fixed point on the next day. Because a fraction of the orbit is completed too. If earth did not go around the sun then the sun would appear in the same place every 360 degrees turn. . 24 hours is not and was not ever said to mean 360deg rotation of Earth. I can't understand the confusion people are having. |
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User ID: 78258400 United States 10/23/2020 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you care to use your critical thinking, you will find that neither the "standard" flat earth or the assumed round earth adequately describe all of the observations. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79496395 The round earth model explains every observable phenomenon in a very simple and elegant way. And it is easy to understand and leaves no questions unanswered. The flat earth model on the other hand fails to explain even the most basic observations and leaves a ton of questions unanswered. I've posted this several times with real flight data. All I get is denial, BS, or that flight data is part of the GE conspiracy or crickets. FE can't make the realization they are saying that worlds transportation and navigation systems are using invalid data. :FEmapMelAkl: that map is inaccurate in fact there is no accurate map of the globe earth either also the worlds transportation and navigation systems all can work on a flat plane model. I think it's cute you think you are the one who gave the "kill shot" to flat earth though. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] woman was on a plane from taiwan to los angelos, was going to emergency land in alaska, which is completely out of the way on the globe model, and makes more sense to land in hawaii, but is not on a flat model, it's only a slight detour. it's laughable you post an in correct flat earth map and then declare that the whole idea of flat earth is wrong based on that wrong map that you posted. I love how you use a single emergency landing to discredit this fundamental problem without any details of the flight, like was it non stop or not, or where was it when the emergency occurred. I've seen many FE maps they all have the same problems, empirically know distances between southern latitudes and northern latitudes aren't even remotely proportionally close to matching. So post an accurate map that meets with real flight data north and south. |
LHP598
User ID: 56794726 United States 10/23/2020 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Only if viewing from zero feet. You often look at things with your head on the ground? Observer height matters. If you have to insist that you've won an Internet argument, you've probably lost badly. - Danth's Law |
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User ID: 79194158 Brazil 10/23/2020 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seems like you're only here to dissemble and attack without actually addressing the points raised. If as this poster posted is the case then we would use the actual 23hr 56min 4 seconds to measure a day and not a 24hr one. It's not beyond human with to work with a 23h 56min 4 sec clock. I get it, you hate people who believe in God, that's your problem bucko, not mine. Neither did you. Look at OP. I didn't "attack" anybody, just quoted facts. I don't hate people who believe in god, I hate the belief in god itself, not the believers. If you don't love them , then you hate them. And if you don't know God , then you don't know what real love is. Dichotomy much? Then show me god! Which one is it gonna be? MaybeTrollingUAgain |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77851330 Canada 10/24/2020 04:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to Nasa the earth rotates at 1000 mph. Every day, year in year, it rotates at this constant speed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68834533 Imagine your location at midday is degree 66.6 on the equator on the 360 degree circle of earth. Everyday at midday your position would be degree 66.6 Now draw on a piece of paper the sun in the middle and the earth to its right. Your position at degree 66.6 is facing the sun hence it is daylight. Call this summer or June 6th for reference. Now bearing in mind the rotational speed of earth is constant you will always be at degree 66.6 at midday no matter what day of the year it is. Now zoom forward six months. According to Nasa the earth revolves around the sun and the time it takes to rotate is one earth year. On dec 6th if you draw the same picture with the sun in the middle the earth should now be on the left of the sun having made 180 degrees of journey over these six months. The problem for NASA though is at midday Dec 6th the earth's rotation on its axis means the 66.6 degree position in now facing away from the sun and therefore it should be night. Yet all our observation and experience proves to us it is always daylight on the earth on dec 6th at the equator, year in and year out. So NASA and other scientists are barefaced lying to you but what do you expect from an organisation founded by the Satanist Jack Parsons, Walt Disney, L. Ron fucking Hubbard and various Nazi scientists spirited over during operation Paperclip? For those who question the motive of this deception the answer is very simple. The flat immovable non rotating earth with the sun, moon and stars revolving around the earth at the centre of Creation working like a clock to aid man in knowing the times and seasons proves the Bible is true and that there is a designer Creator and that your life does have meaning and purpose rather than the fantastical nihilistic notion that everything came out of nothing and that you are noting more than a random accident with an unknown cause and no purpose whatsoever. Too many of you will deny this reality and even people like Richard Dawkins when probed will revert to some sort of intelligent creator as long as it's not God (simulation theory etc). So globe earth shills answer my example above how it is possible with a constant rotation of the earth axis to have daylight at midday in winter and summer when the earth is facing the sun in summer and facing away from the sun in winter according to the NASA model if you can. I am eager to see the intellectual contortions you will come up for this solitary example out of many that you have been lied to since you were born. That is why in the Bible God tells us Satan has deceived the whole world, not a quarter, not a half but the whole world, get it? So what it is only a good effort at timing a day... big deal off Maybe go with south American Myanmar Aztec time based on tens not 360 degree minutes Measurement of time really is kind of pointless anyway. Predicting exact solstice us a real and Important skill... plant grow harvest...mans existence |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77851330 Canada 10/24/2020 04:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | According to Nasa the earth rotates at 1000 mph. Every day, year in year, it rotates at this constant speed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68834533 Imagine your location at midday is degree 66.6 on the equator on the 360 degree circle of earth. Everyday at midday your position would be degree 66.6 Now draw on a piece of paper the sun in the middle and the earth to its right. Your position at degree 66.6 is facing the sun hence it is daylight. Call this summer or June 6th for reference. Now bearing in mind the rotational speed of earth is constant you will always be at degree 66.6 at midday no matter what day of the year it is. Now zoom forward six months. According to Nasa the earth revolves around the sun and the time it takes to rotate is one earth year. On dec 6th if you draw the same picture with the sun in the middle the earth should now be on the left of the sun having made 180 degrees of journey over these six months. The problem for NASA though is at midday Dec 6th the earth's rotation on its axis means the 66.6 degree position in now facing away from the sun and therefore it should be night. Yet all our observation and experience proves to us it is always daylight on the earth on dec 6th at the equator, year in and year out. So NASA and other scientists are barefaced lying to you but what do you expect from an organisation founded by the Satanist Jack Parsons, Walt Disney, L. Ron fucking Hubbard and various Nazi scientists spirited over during operation Paperclip? For those who question the motive of this deception the answer is very simple. The flat immovable non rotating earth with the sun, moon and stars revolving around the earth at the centre of Creation working like a clock to aid man in knowing the times and seasons proves the Bible is true and that there is a designer Creator and that your life does have meaning and purpose rather than the fantastical nihilistic notion that everything came out of nothing and that you are noting more than a random accident with an unknown cause and no purpose whatsoever. Too many of you will deny this reality and even people like Richard Dawkins when probed will revert to some sort of intelligent creator as long as it's not God (simulation theory etc). So globe earth shills answer my example above how it is possible with a constant rotation of the earth axis to have daylight at midday in winter and summer when the earth is facing the sun in summer and facing away from the sun in winter according to the NASA model if you can. I am eager to see the intellectual contortions you will come up for this solitary example out of many that you have been lied to since you were born. That is why in the Bible God tells us Satan has deceived the whole world, not a quarter, not a half but the whole world, get it? So what it is only a good effort at timing a day... big deal off Maybe go with south American Myanmar Aztec time based on tens not 360 degree minutes Measurement of time really is kind of pointless anyway. Predicting exact solstice us a real and Important skill... plant grow harvest...mans existence Oh and by the way the earth us a tiny round blob in a vast universe of trillions of blobs.round ok and if there is a God (ok I believe in him) he has many more important things to do than help you or hear you cry about your tiny issues ...help yourself first |
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User ID: 79531115 Germany 10/24/2020 06:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | woman was on a plane from taiwan to los angelos, was going to emergency land in alaska, which is completely out of the way on the globe model, and makes more sense to land in hawaii Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722 No, it is not, see here: [link to imgur.com (secure)] Hawaii would have been a massive detour, if it happened in the middle of the flight it would have been almost the same distance to Hawaii as just continuing the route to KSFO. There exists no flat earth map that could map all the places we know and the distances we have measured between them and the paths that are taken by air travel onto a flat surface in a way that would make any sense. Any flat earth map would always have an outer border around it and put two places that are really only a few kilometers apart at the widest possible distance on that map. Last Edited by President Erect on 10/24/2020 06:37 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78785509 United States 10/24/2020 06:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd just like to note that most globe Earth proponents say that the Earth can't be "a plane" because it would be different from the others that are supposedly a sphere. Yet, that is what Neil D Tyson suggests. That Earth is the lone gourd/pear among planets. So, if he can suggest that with no photographic evidence to support, but the same photoshopped pics from NASA depicting a perfectly round sphere, then neither has any proof. Also, the accepted "science" is that it is leaning ona n axis but, never do these pics get displayed demonstrating this lean. They make sure to always show Earth studiously upright. It is all such a farce. I am 100% convinced the Earth is NOT moving. It's not spinning and it's not rotating at stupendous speeds across the universe. It is set in a foundation in one spot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72821184 United States 10/24/2020 06:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Earth terrestrial sphere can not be physical because measured land forms do not fit on it unless they are distorted going north or south of the equator, this makes the ball Earth theory not valid. Anyone have a Earth terrestrial globe showing the correct sizes and dimensions of all of the continents and oceans, no there are none. You can not use the distorted ball Earth terrestrial globes to judge how the Earth should look. Globe terrestrial Earth degree of longitude at the equator is 69 miles, at 30 degrees north south 60 miles, at 45 N S 49 miles, at 60 degrees N S only 35 miles per degree longitude. No accurate depiction. Ball believers have a looked at a physical terrestrial Earth globe, do some study measure things, you will see. Earth is flat and non-rotating, zero proof of Earth being a spinning water ball in a 'space vacuum. |
ib6xmb
User ID: 8141483 United States 10/24/2020 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Bernd1911 The round earth model explains every observable phenomenon in a very simple and elegant way. And it is easy to understand and leaves no questions unanswered. The flat earth model on the other hand fails to explain even the most basic observations and leaves a ton of questions unanswered. I've posted this several times with real flight data. All I get is denial, BS, or that flight data is part of the GE conspiracy or crickets. FE can't make the realization they are saying that worlds transportation and navigation systems are using invalid data. :FEmapMelAkl: that map is inaccurate in fact there is no accurate map of the globe earth either also the worlds transportation and navigation systems all can work on a flat plane model. I think it's cute you think you are the one who gave the "kill shot" to flat earth though. [link to www.dailymail.co.uk (secure)] woman was on a plane from taiwan to los angelos, was going to emergency land in alaska, which is completely out of the way on the globe model, and makes more sense to land in hawaii, but is not on a flat model, it's only a slight detour. it's laughable you post an in correct flat earth map and then declare that the whole idea of flat earth is wrong based on that wrong map that you posted. I love how you use a single emergency landing to discredit this fundamental problem without any details of the flight, like was it non stop or not, or where was it when the emergency occurred. I've seen many FE maps they all have the same problems, empirically know distances between southern latitudes and northern latitudes aren't even remotely proportionally close to matching. So post an accurate map that meets with real flight data north and south. |
Bernd1911
User ID: 79531115 Germany 10/24/2020 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ball believers have a looked at a physical terrestrial Earth globe, do some study measure things, you will see. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72821184 I'm using software to calculate where in the sky exactly the stars and the planets should be located tonight at a certain time, taking my latitude and longitiude into account and then I point my telescope at exactly these calculated locations and there they are spot on in the middle of my eye piece. It works. Every. Time. The software is using the ball model of the earth. Apparently this model is the easiest method that allows to calculate where the celestial objects should appear in the sky at any given moment in time. Tell me please: Why would objects in a hypothetical flat world sky mimic ecaxtly the movements that would otherwise naturally occur in a globe world? How did the flat world creators manage to make it so that they always seem to rotate around an axis that in northern places points very steep upward into the sky, that appears horizontal when i am near the equator and even pointed downwards (or reversed and pointing south into the sky) when I am in the southern hemisphere? How does a flat-earther explain that the starfield is rotating counter-clockwise around Polaris in the nothern hemisphere and at the same time(!) is also rotating clockwise around Sigma Octantis when looking at it while being south of the equator? How would you even try to begin to explain this in a flat world without your head exploding after 5 minutes? What crazy multidimensional hyper-shape must the curtain that has the stars drawn onto it have so that it can rotate clockwise and counterclockwise at the same time without showing any distortions anywhere at all when looked at it from a flat ground surface? With the globe model I can explain all these effects to a 5 year old and it is absolutely intuitive to understand. I have yet to see any flat earth model that would even begin to explain any of these effects. Last Edited by President Erect on 10/24/2020 09:30 AM |
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User ID: 57372148 United States 10/24/2020 10:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Earth is flat and non-rotating, no amount of imaginative arguments and wishful thinking will make Earth a spinning water ball in a 'space vacuum. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74163062 Anyone have a Earth terrestrial globe showing the correct sizes and dimensions of all of the continents and oceans, no there are none. Actually, there's plenty, they're just expensive and need to be very large if you want them to show the surface as anything but smooth. This is the problem with people like you, you don't even understand the very basics of why some globes have the warning label about them not being for certain uses. The Earth itself if presented on a globe with true scaling done properly is smoother than a tournament legal pool cueball! What this means is that the dips and protrusions in the Earth's crust are actually less pronounced than an object we work very hard to make as smooth as we can. This is the problem with you flerfs, you so poorly understand what you're supposed to see if the earth is in fact roughly spherical that you constantly think you've found these gotchas which are in fact exactly what you'd expect to see etc if the earth was "spherical". Every last one of you I've ever spoken with insists that you understand and KNOW the globe model better than the people who actually believe in it... And yet you obviously don't because your kind keeps posting beautiful examples that show earth is a ball as socalled proofs of it being flat! If you don't actually have a thorough working understanding of what you should see and etc if the earth is round, you will never ever successfully disprove it! roguetechie |
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