Electric Vehicles WILL DOMINATE by 2030

Smart people understand common people far less than they think.
And they always forget about chaos...

Ev equals restricted movement, dependence.
ICE is freedom.

Fools

Didn't listen to the vids, did you?

it was poised similarly... about a hundred years ago... Petro... being more economically controllable was used instead.

Now...

EVs sound good at face value, but the reality is this:

1) Right now...people get cash backs, and incentives, etc to have an EV. When everyone has one...that won’t exist. They are expensive..like I could buy a Ford Raptor, instead of a plastic PoS car type of expensive.

2) Batteries use rare earth materials and other exotic materials to give “extended range” and longevity.

3) Once everyone has one...where do you think the power to charge them is coming from? It’s still fossil fuel based, or nuclear (we’d have to build a lot more). Right now people get a break in rates if they charge at “off hours”...what hours will be off when the entire planet is trying to charge their car?

4) Electricity bill. LoL. Think it’s bad now running the AC during summer? Wait till every family with 2-4 cars are charging constantlydurimg the summer!

There are other considerations as well...longevity of battery life, disposal of said battery, how dangerous they are in a crash situation...yea! Battery acid all over me! Yea...just gonna take a pass for now.

I’d rather have a car with a radioactive plutonium bullet that lasts me my entire lifetime(shielded of course) , becuase that sounds like something plausible, instead of this BS. How about all road are tracks like the oldschool 70s RC racing tracks? You can’t go off-road, and your car is run with electromagnetic engines, that if anything like the RC tracks of old....would accelerate you fast than is humanly safe.

Fuck you and fuck your EV filth

tony full-o-shit seba can toungue-punch a fart box and it'll make more sense


you commie brainwashed shitbag

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No, i am not sticking around so you can use my life force unless i get a ton of spendable money. You can all return to the hunter gather stage without me. I am going to leave.

Green energy isn't quite as "green" as they claim ...

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Problem is there is not enough precious metals to make it happen.

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has ZERO fuck-all to do with green

its KONTROL

period

sustainable=eco=green=bolshevik=communism=terrorism

Stfu idiot

You’re done here

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Try pullin a 5th wheel with an electric truck...Pretty sure my Cummins is gonna be around for awhile.

Biden will destroy society long before 2030. good luck riding your electric bicycle like a china man on dirt roads in 2030.
Enjoy your rusty tiny homes as well.

Trump has the pentagon working day and night

to open up precious metal mines to make it possible

do some research.

We got telecommuting instead. Telecommuting is better for the environment because it cuts down on total driving.

All-battery grid powered electric vehicles will probably never become the dominant mode of transport now. Telecommuting means the oil price is going to be very weak for a decade or two. This eliminates a lot of the cost incentive.

After a decade or two when the price of oil begins to recover to pre-Covid/telecommuting levels, what we'll probably get are vehicles which generate pretty clean electric power with gas powered turbines and which use electric motors.

I think what will happen is that somewhere between a few months and a year, as it becomes clear that telecommuting is here to stay whatever happens with the pandemic and the rest of the economy, gas will fall to about $1 per gallon and taxes will then be imposed to increase the price to about $2 or $2.50 on the East coast, probably more out west.

Grid powered cars are dirtier than gas powered cars. They pollute the air more than gas powered cars because electricity is mostly coal and is mostly going to continue to be coal for the next few decades. The power grid was never going to be ready for everyone using grid powered electric vehicles any time soon, especially not out in California.

The wild card is that there could be an increase in economic development and many more people driving. Oil companies will certainly have to consider doing what they can to help more people get behind the wheel asap to avoid a decade or two of low prices from the telecommuting oil price shock.

Alternatively, coal fired electricity plants could perhaps be replaced with relatively clean burning oil plants if the oil price seems likely to remain low.

Basically, an EV company like Tesla is now on borrowed time while the market is in denial about these basic issues. They will surely need a genius strategy for the years ahead to avoid total failure.

nope

You couldn't pay me to drive an electric car.

Not enough lithium on Earth to make that happen.
Now if we cull to 500M...

You guys never read the fine print.

You're kidding, right? Electric motors have unbeatable torque. I thought everybody knew that by now?

Even though the future of "electric vehicles" is now iffy because of telecommuting killing the price of oil for maybe a decade or so, electric motors are still going to replace the conventional combustion engine setup. Too much work has gone into them and they are so much better.

Instead though there will be various methods of generating electric power on the vehicle itself instead of from the grid, probably mostly using gas power in one way or another. The simplest way is just a small combustion engine itself (probably small motorcycle sized) except only used to generate electricity. Then you only need a fraction of the electricity storage in batteries that current all battery wall electricity powered vehicles use.

As a result of the higher efficiency of electric motors, these hybrids will have superior range even to conventional internal combustion engine vehicles. The same tank of gas will generate electric power and take you probably more than twice as far.

Sure there is. Not that most batteries need to be made of lithium anyway.

But a gas-electric hybrid will generate electric power from gas in one way or another and use it to power an efficient electric motor. It will only need an hour or two of battery storage.

THANK YOU for your very well-informed, astute and rational analysis. (Or was it an ANAL-ysis? Can't tell. lol)

That's barely true even NOW, let alone decades out. At most latitudes, solar beats coal right now, with the price/value proposition getting much better literally every year. Which is why for example some coal plants under construction in India actually got cancelled -- mid-project -- because solar was so much better deal that no point finishing the coal plant. A hugely disproportionate share of all NEW power installations are renewables, and for good reason. It will still take some decades for full conversion, because installed base of fossil crap is so huge, but it will happen.

VW developed a diesel with fewer emissions than electric cars

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HUSH! You're talking SENSE here. Not allowed on GLP.

Battery powered cars are terrible for the environment.

Much much worse than gas or diesel powered cars.

Only a moron would want them in mass production.

Didn't listen to the vids, did you?

One of the key points is that TaaS (Transportation as a SERVICE), along with autonomy (self-driving), will soon dominate, and the result will be a collapse of the vehicle fleet, since transport will become many-fold more efficient -- many fewer vehicles required for same transport services. With a ~90% collapse in size of fleet, power requirements will be commensurately small. That's not to mention that EVs are vastly more efficient, just comparing them one-for-one (mile-for-mile) with ICE. IOW, total energy requirements for all transport services are about to take an enormous dive. Oil companies are doomed. All this btw also answers your "off hours" question. Moot point.

No matter. EVs are so preferable for so many reasons that past a point (roughly NOW or very soon) no special incentives required. Prices coming down every year with no end in sight.

This is a wave just starting to hit the beach, folks. You can't stop it.

California already having brown outs. Power infrastructure crumbling. 60 year old nuke plants. I’m sure it will be fine.