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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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Laying the groundwork for Mad Max World, I see.
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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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Countries like Portugal, the Netherlands and Switzerland have already implemented similar decriminalizations. In Portgual, the change saw "no surge" in new drug use. In fact, drug deaths fell while the number of people in the country treated for addiction rose 20% between 2001 and 2008. Then, the number stabilized.

Laying the groundwork for Mad Max World, I see.
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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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Laying the groundwork for Mad Max World, I see.
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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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BUT YOU STILL CAN NOT GET PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS AND BRAIN DRUGS THAT WILL MAKE YOUR BODY HEALTHY AND BETTER???

SO WHAT ABOUT SOME DECA... WINSTROL? JUST ASKING
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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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Laying the groundwork for Mad Max World, I see.
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Countries like Portugal, the Netherlands and Switzerland have already implemented similar decriminalizations. In Portgual, the change saw "no surge" in new drug use. In fact, drug deaths fell while the number of people in the country treated for addiction rose 20% between 2001 and 2008. Then, the number stabilized.

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Treatment instead of jail. I voted Yes!
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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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Laying the groundwork for Mad Max World, I see.
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Countries like Portugal, the Netherlands and Switzerland have already implemented similar decriminalizations. In Portgual, the change saw "no surge" in new drug use. In fact, drug deaths fell while the number of people in the country treated for addiction rose 20% between 2001 and 2008. Then, the number stabilized.

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hesright


Treatment instead of jail. I voted Yes!
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lololol And just how many of these "addicts" do you think are going to show up for court much less for treatment. They WANT the high!!
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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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Laying the groundwork for Mad Max World, I see.
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Countries like Portugal, the Netherlands and Switzerland have already implemented similar decriminalizations. In Portgual, the change saw "no surge" in new drug use. In fact, drug deaths fell while the number of people in the country treated for addiction rose 20% between 2001 and 2008. Then, the number stabilized.

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hesright


Treatment instead of jail. I voted Yes!
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Did you bother to read the OP, or did you just jump at the title?

Funny how people can't be sensed to read a few sentences before spitting their vitriol.

You know how much drug treatment costs? Last I checked it's well over $10,000/mo. You think heroin addicts have that? They don't.

For profit jails are a scourge of American society and serve little purpose other than the revolving door.

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lololol And just how many of these "addicts" do you think are going to show up for court much less for treatment. They WANT the high!!
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Exactly.

When this topic comes up, a plethora of places are named that implemented similar measures and had either neutral or positive results.

In case anyone hasn’t noticed yet, the US is a very different place compared to the rest of the world.

Mark my words, Oregon will turn into a wasteland if this passes.
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lololol And just how many of these "addicts" do you think are going to show up for court much less for treatment. They WANT the high!!
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Exactly.

When this topic comes up, a plethora of places are named that implemented similar measures and had either neutral or positive results.

In case anyone hasn’t noticed yet, the US is a very different place compared to the rest of the world.

Mark my words, Oregon will turn into a wasteland if this passes.
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This is good. You can get all these drugs anywhere in America. Even Oklahomo! Oregon has high drug abuse and the least access to drug rehabs in America. This bill gives citizens the rights to their OWN bodies, and provides help to people in desperate situations. I fully support all drug decriminalization. We own our bodies, not the government. And as far as psychedelics go, we own our souls too. You are talking about drugs with zero side effects besides a better life when taken appropriately. But yet you slaves want people enslaved for it. But liquor stores and thongs for elementary kids are cool with you? At this point if you support the drug war you are braindead or owned by satan. There is no other option.
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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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BUT YOU STILL CAN NOT GET PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUGS AND BRAIN DRUGS THAT WILL MAKE YOUR BODY HEALTHY AND BETTER???

SO WHAT ABOUT SOME DECA... WINSTROL? JUST ASKING
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I prefer anavar, Test P, Masteron P, and Tren A.... (Still got love for deca and Winny)but I believe all drugs should me decriminalized!
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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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...

Countries like Portugal, the Netherlands and Switzerland have already implemented similar decriminalizations. In Portgual, the change saw "no surge" in new drug use. In fact, drug deaths fell while the number of people in the country treated for addiction rose 20% between 2001 and 2008. Then, the number stabilized.

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hesright


Treatment instead of jail. I voted Yes!
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Did you bother to read the OP, or did you just jump at the title?

Funny how people can't be sensed to read a few sentences before spitting their vitriol.

You know how much drug treatment costs? Last I checked it's well over $10,000/mo. You think heroin addicts have that? They don't.

For profit jails are a scourge of American society and serve little purpose other than the revolving door.
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Did you read the article!?!, treatment will be funded by taxes made from legal marijuana sales. Yet another genius idea I agree with!
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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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I as a Trump loving, Constitutionalist Libertarian AGREE 100%
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Laying the groundwork for Mad Max World, I see.
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Countries like Portugal, the Netherlands and Switzerland have already implemented similar decriminalizations. In Portgual, the change saw "no surge" in new drug use. In fact, drug deaths fell while the number of people in the country treated for addiction rose 20% between 2001 and 2008. Then, the number stabilized.

 Quoting: VinoSom


hesright


Treatment instead of jail. I voted Yes!
 Quoting: Seer777




Same here. Makes room for the real criminals in prisons and jail, less tax dollars used towards small time drug offenders in jail etc.

Its a highly libertarian move.
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In a move we are sure won't have any negative repercussions on the state's quality of life going forward, Oregon looks slated to the be the first state in the U.S. to decriminalize "hard drugs" like heroin, cocaine and LSD.


The initiative, called Measure 110, could "drastically change" the state's justice system, ABC News noted. Those who are caught with hard drugs would now have the option of paying a $100 fine or attending new addition recovery centers, paid for with taxes from retail marijuana sales.

Under the new measure, possession of less than 1 gram of heroin or meth, 2 grams of cocaine, 12 grams of psilocybin, 40 doses of LSD, oxycodone or methadone and 1 gram of MDMA would all be decriminalized.


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hesright


Treatment instead of jail. I voted Yes!
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thumbs
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Did you bother to read the OP, or did you just jump at the title?

Funny how people can't be sensed to read a few sentences before spitting their vitriol.

You know how much drug treatment costs? Last I checked it's well over $10,000/mo. You think heroin addicts have that? They don't.

For profit jails are a scourge of American society and serve little purpose other than the revolving door.
 Quoting: Seer777


Did you read the article!?!, treatment will be funded by taxes made from legal marijuana sales. Yet another genius idea I agree with!
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Yes I bolded that bit so it would stand out more.. :)

It's a win-win. Great usage of the tax monies as far as I see it.
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Laying the groundwork for Mad Max World, I see.
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Countries like Portugal, the Netherlands and Switzerland have already implemented similar decriminalizations. In Portgual, the change saw "no surge" in new drug use. In fact, drug deaths fell while the number of people in the country treated for addiction rose 20% between 2001 and 2008. Then, the number stabilized.

 Quoting: VinoSom


hesright


Treatment instead of jail. I voted Yes!
 Quoting: Seer777




Same here. Makes room for the real criminals in prisons and jail, less tax dollars used towards small time drug offenders in jail etc.

Its a highly libertarian move.
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I have seen numerous druggies and junkies in real life over the years. It matters not about decriminalization of once illegal drugs. The druggies and junkies both just want their drugs. Let them off themselves. Most of them do not want to be healed. They may want to be healed in their next lifetime or that may take multiple lifetimes before they want to even start to heal.
Conspiracy Theorist is nothing more than a derogatory title used to dismiss a critical thinker.

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Countries like Portugal, the Netherlands and Switzerland have already implemented similar decriminalizations. In Portgual, the change saw "no surge" in new drug use. In fact, drug deaths fell while the number of people in the country treated for addiction rose 20% between 2001 and 2008. Then, the number stabilized.

 Quoting: VinoSom


hesright


Treatment instead of jail. I voted Yes!
 Quoting: Seer777




Same here. Makes room for the real criminals in prisons and jail, less tax dollars used towards small time drug offenders in jail etc.

Its a highly libertarian move.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79576253


I have seen numerous druggies and junkies in real life over the years. It matters not about decriminalization of once illegal drugs. The druggies and junkies both just want their drugs. Let them off themselves. Most of them do not want to be healed. They may want to be healed in their next lifetime or that may take multiple lifetimes before they want to even start to heal.
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Your anecdotal evidence really has no bearing on the statistics as a whole.

A lot of people get clean and go on with their lives as productive citizens. A lot of people who end up homeless, end up getting their lives together..usually with some help.

Some times people can't help themselves, and we have resources they can reach out to, for help. I personally cared for a child whose mother used meth into her 3rd trimester, but then sought treatment for the last couple months and over the proceeding 3 years, became a dental assistant. She is success story I have personal experience with.

Don't sell people short because they are at a low point in their lives. A lot of people get clean and stay clean. Often for the love they have for their kids.
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Treatment instead of jail. I voted Yes!
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Same here. Makes room for the real criminals in prisons and jail, less tax dollars used towards small time drug offenders in jail etc.

Its a highly libertarian move.
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I have seen numerous druggies and junkies in real life over the years. It matters not about decriminalization of once illegal drugs. The druggies and junkies both just want their drugs. Let them off themselves. Most of them do not want to be healed. They may want to be healed in their next lifetime or that may take multiple lifetimes before they want to even start to heal.
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Your anecdotal evidence really has no bearing on the statistics as a whole.

A lot of people get clean and go on with their lives as productive citizens. A lot of people who end up homeless, end up getting their lives together..usually with some help.

Some times people can't help themselves, and we have resources they can reach out to, for help. I personally cared for a child whose mother used meth into her 3rd trimester, but then sought treatment for the last couple months and over the proceeding 3 years, became a dental assistant. She is success story I have personal experience with.

Don't sell people short because they are at a low point in their lives. A lot of people get clean and stay clean. Often for the love they have for their kids.
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Hilarious, Seer777. Your anecdotal evidence is better than my anecdotal evidence. Therefore you have all the credibility and I have none. Thanks for that, Seer777.

Seeing as more and more statistics are being filled with deceptions of various details planet wide those who blindly believe statistics prove themselves easily duped. You may have to spend the next some consecutive years sifting through mountains of data for those specific statistics just to confirm them to be legitimate or not these days.

Sure, what I described, Seer777, is most likely just a small town's drug problem and is probably less than a dot on the grand scale of "statistics". Whatever though. I know I am correct. More than likely, Seer777, you are also correct.
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Same here. Makes room for the real criminals in prisons and jail, less tax dollars used towards small time drug offenders in jail etc.

Its a highly libertarian move.
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I have seen numerous druggies and junkies in real life over the years. It matters not about decriminalization of once illegal drugs. The druggies and junkies both just want their drugs. Let them off themselves. Most of them do not want to be healed. They may want to be healed in their next lifetime or that may take multiple lifetimes before they want to even start to heal.
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Your anecdotal evidence really has no bearing on the statistics as a whole.

A lot of people get clean and go on with their lives as productive citizens. A lot of people who end up homeless, end up getting their lives together..usually with some help.

Sometimes people can't help themselves, and we have resources they can reach out to, for help. I personally cared for a child whose mother used meth into her 3rd trimester, but then sought treatment for the last couple months and over the proceeding 3 years, became a dental assistant. She is success story I have personal experience with.

Don't sell people short because they are at a low point in their lives. A lot of people get clean and stay clean. Often for the love they have for their kids.
 Quoting: Seer777


Hilarious, Seer777. Your anecdotal evidence is better than my anecdotal evidence. Therefore you have all the credibility and I have none. Thanks for that, Seer777.

Seeing as more and more statistics are being filled with deceptions of various details planet wide those who blindly believe statistics prove themselves easily duped. You may have to spend the next some consecutive years sifting through mountains of data for those specific statistics just to confirm them to be legitimate or not these days.

Sure, what I described, Seer777, is most likely just a small town's drug problem and is probably less than a dot on the grand scale of "statistics". Whatever though. I know I am correct. More than likely, Seer777, you are also correct.
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You suggested they just off themselves. You are not correct.

Anyway..this gives drug addicts better options, opens centers for treatment, and is being paid for by retail marijuana sales.

One step in the right direction.
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I have seen numerous druggies and junkies in real life over the years. It matters not about decriminalization of once illegal drugs. The druggies and junkies both just want their drugs. Let them off themselves. Most of them do not want to be healed. They may want to be healed in their next lifetime or that may take multiple lifetimes before they want to even start to heal.
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Your anecdotal evidence really has no bearing on the statistics as a whole.

A lot of people get clean and go on with their lives as productive citizens. A lot of people who end up homeless, end up getting their lives together..usually with some help.

Sometimes people can't help themselves, and we have resources they can reach out to, for help. I personally cared for a child whose mother used meth into her 3rd trimester, but then sought treatment for the last couple months and over the proceeding 3 years, became a dental assistant. She is success story I have personal experience with.

Don't sell people short because they are at a low point in their lives. A lot of people get clean and stay clean. Often for the love they have for their kids.
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Hilarious, Seer777. Your anecdotal evidence is better than my anecdotal evidence. Therefore you have all the credibility and I have none. Thanks for that, Seer777.

Seeing as more and more statistics are being filled with deceptions of various details planet wide those who blindly believe statistics prove themselves easily duped. You may have to spend the next some consecutive years sifting through mountains of data for those specific statistics just to confirm them to be legitimate or not these days.

Sure, what I described, Seer777, is most likely just a small town's drug problem and is probably less than a dot on the grand scale of "statistics". Whatever though. I know I am correct. More than likely, Seer777, you are also correct.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


You suggested they just off themselves. You are not correct.

Anyway..this gives drug addicts better options, opens centers for treatment, and is being paid for by retail marijuana sales.

One step in the right direction.
 Quoting: Seer777


You are very much delusional, Seer777, if you truly believe up to every one of the druggies and junkies I briefly described a number of posts ago in this thread did not off themselves. I am in fact correct. You are correct as well, Seer777. Can you even process these facts, Seer777? Sure, I was not there for the druggies and junkies who did finally off themselves with their beloved drug usage(s). I usually got seeming confirmation of such drug fueled deaths from other people who apparently personally knew those dead druggies and junkies.

Not everyone wants to be saved in their current lifetime. It took me numerous lifetimes for me to clean up my act enough to get where I am at today in my current lifetime, Seer777. I am Pure again and doing pretty darn well for myself in this regard. It does suck for those who need multiple lifetimes to finally get themselves ready to get cleaned up and whatnot positive. Been there, done that.

I sincerely hope when such druggies and junkies are finally ready to initiate their healing process they will have legitimately caring individuals who at least have the time to use to help such former druggies and junkies to heal up as best as they can.
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Your anecdotal evidence really has no bearing on the statistics as a whole.

A lot of people get clean and go on with their lives as productive citizens. A lot of people who end up homeless, end up getting their lives together..usually with some help.

Sometimes people can't help themselves, and we have resources they can reach out to, for help. I personally cared for a child whose mother used meth into her 3rd trimester, but then sought treatment for the last couple months and over the proceeding 3 years, became a dental assistant. She is success story I have personal experience with.

Don't sell people short because they are at a low point in their lives. A lot of people get clean and stay clean. Often for the love they have for their kids.
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Hilarious, Seer777. Your anecdotal evidence is better than my anecdotal evidence. Therefore you have all the credibility and I have none. Thanks for that, Seer777.

Seeing as more and more statistics are being filled with deceptions of various details planet wide those who blindly believe statistics prove themselves easily duped. You may have to spend the next some consecutive years sifting through mountains of data for those specific statistics just to confirm them to be legitimate or not these days.

Sure, what I described, Seer777, is most likely just a small town's drug problem and is probably less than a dot on the grand scale of "statistics". Whatever though. I know I am correct. More than likely, Seer777, you are also correct.
 Quoting: darkwolf007


You suggested they just off themselves. You are not correct.

Anyway..this gives drug addicts better options, opens centers for treatment, and is being paid for by retail marijuana sales.

One step in the right direction.
 Quoting: Seer777


You are very much delusional, Seer777, if you truly believe up to every one of the druggies and junkies I briefly described a number of posts ago in this thread did not off themselves. I am in fact correct. You are correct as well, Seer777. Can you even process these facts, Seer777? Sure, I was not there for the druggies and junkies who did finally off themselves with their beloved drug usage(s). I usually got seeming confirmation of such drug fueled deaths from other people who apparently personally knew those dead druggies and junkies.

Not everyone wants to be saved in their current lifetime. It took me numerous lifetimes for me to clean up my act enough to get where I am at today in my current lifetime, Seer777. I am Pure again and doing pretty darn well for myself in this regard. It does suck for those who need multiple lifetimes to finally get themselves ready to get cleaned up and whatnot positive. Been there, done that.

I sincerely hope when such druggies and junkies are finally ready to initiate their healing process they will have legitimately caring individuals who at least have the time to use to help such former druggies and junkies to heal up as best as they can.
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That's called rumor. Maybe you have strange acquaintances, it is really not pertinent.

How could you possibly know a thing like that?

Look guy if you want to believe in previous lives, and karma and all that, that's on you. You're viewing it through a lens where you consider yourself 'pure' while 'druggies' should off themselves.


I'm glad we could agree at the end. This will give people who are caught with hard drugs the option to pay a fine, or go to treatment. Not to jail.
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Joe Rogan and his friends will move here.
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Joe Rogan and his friends will move here.
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So will the Biden Family
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Legalizing it would take money away from cartels.
legalizing it would lower prison sentences and limit police interactions.
the war on drugs isn't working
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I have been to Portland many times. This will changes most people's lives in no way at all.
Basically legal before. No one gets arrested for it and no one gets fired for using on the job.
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I'm all for it, let nature run its course, everyone's happy, junkies included
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I'm all for it, let nature run its course, everyone's happy, junkies included
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gotta score some Peruvian Coca Seeds

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