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Are We Sure about all those Mail-In Ballots ?

 
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As soon as COVID-19 shut down large swaths of the country in March, many conservatives and other defenders of a secure and durable franchise began to point out possible problems. At Newsweek, where I serve as opinion editor, we held a “debate of the week” on this issue in June. J. Christian Adams and Hans von Spakovsky persuasively, and quite presciently, argued that this unprecedented exercise in national mass mail-in voting entails numerous systemic risks: lack of basic administrative infrastructure and personnel competency, inaccurate voter rolls, multiple registrations, decedent registrations, ballot harvesting, and venal postal service employees, to name just a few.
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Couple days ago I had the chance to speak to a long-time poll worker.

She was aghast to learn via the msm that poll workers were granted lunch breaks where they left the building. Said that is absolutely not her experience -

you stay in the building all day, til the votes are reconciled at the end.


Recounts are absolutely necessary -

but unless each vote is vetted properly (as poll workers would have done in the past)

it is an exercise in counting horse droppings
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Other examples abound. In the Wisconsin primary, the rejection rate was around 2%—which seems low until one considers that the raw total of rejected ballots was 23,169, greater than Trump’s current deficit in the Badger State. In Pennsylvania, election officials were fretting as recently as late September that the commonwealth might have to reject as many as 100,000 mail-in ballots.


my poll worker source is fretting, too

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additonally

blue states with a huge outflux of conservative voters


have NOT purged the names of voters from the rolls...

meaining many of us who voted with our feet... probably unwittingly voted democrat as well...


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The voting system has been abused for eons,
but never as much as this time.

The Dems were SHOCKED after Trump overwhelmed their rigged
"slam dunk" for Hillary. They pulled out all the stops
this go 'round, obviousness be damned.

Recounts, done by the same thieves that counted the first
time, will not restore the theft.

Illegal ballots counted illegally, recounted changes nothing.

Computer "glitches" manipulated,numbers totals switched,
thrown in dumpster ballots, mis-marked ballots, ballots
now separated from their signed envelopes...

The actual vote is now impossible to find.

The voting system must be revamped.

As for now, the crooks are gloating and rubbing
our noses in it.

They even ran a senile old crook, propped up with their
manipulation and technology.

bidensteleprompt
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The voting system has been abused for eons,
but never as much as this time.

The Dems were SHOCKED after Trump overwhelmed their rigged
"slam dunk" for Hillary. They pulled out all the stops
this go 'round, obviousness be damned.

Recounts, done by the same thieves that counted the first
time, will not restore the theft.

Illegal ballots counted illegally, recounted changes nothing.

Computer "glitches" manipulated,numbers totals switched,
thrown in dumpster ballots, mis-marked ballots, ballots
now separated from their signed envelopes...

The actual vote is now impossible to find.


The voting system must be revamped.

As for now, the crooks are gloating and rubbing
our noses in it.

They even ran a senile old crook, propped up with their
manipulation and technology.

bidensteleprompt
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TRUTH

cheating in the Kentucky Derby or Belmont means disqualification of the "winner".

Should happen here, too.




President Trump won this like Secretariat, and they want to tell us he lost?????

cnnbelmont

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this whole 'election' needs to be thrown out.

the voting rolls need to be purged and then refilled.

only in-person, day of election voting should be allowed.

here is the inherent flaw with the mail-in ballots, which I've pointed out many times but seems to be getting ignored.

I still have my mail-in ballot that I was sent from the state of NV. I'll walk through the steps to cast it.

1 I open the envelope that was sent. inside I find the return envelope, a 'secrecy' page with instructions on how to fill out the ballot, and two pages of the actual ballot.

2 I read the instructions and make sure that my name and address is correct on the return envelope.

3 I mark the boxes on the ballot with a black ball-point pen to indicate my vote and remove the receipt portion from the top of the ballots. I refold the ballots, place them inside the 'security' paper, and then place that inside the return envelope. I put the receipts away for safe-keeping.

4 I sign and seal the return envelope.

5 I place it in a USPS mail-box, an official ballot drop-off box, or I return it by hand on election day.

6 On election day, the return envelope is now in the hands of election officials. They 'verify' that the signature matches (40% threshold) the voter information on record and the return envelope is opened.

7 The security paper and ballots which it contains are removed from the envelope and handed to another person. the envelope is then placed in a pile with other authenticated envelopes.

8 the ballots are then removed from the security envelope and placed in a tray with other ballots to be scanned.

9 the ballots are then placed in a pile of other ballots that have already been recorded.

voting done.


now, after forensic analysis of the envelopes, it is determined that the ballot I sent was 'invalid' because it was found that I had died 2 years ago, or that I moved out of Clark County in July when I lost my job, or I was convicted of a felony in another state and it didn't show as disqualifying before, or I'm not a citizen and only own a vacation home in NV, whatever the reason, the ballot I sent was invalid.

once that determination is made, how is anyone to know which of those ballots came out of that now disqualified envelope? the ballots themselves are made so as to be not personally identifiable and therefore have nothing obvious on them to tie them to the envelope which is identifiable thanks to the signature and address.

so even when a vote[r] is determined to be invalid/fraudulent, how is that vote[r] going to be removed from the tally?

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thank you AC for this post
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thank you AC for this post
 Quoting: beeches


thank you for reading it.

i've posted that a few times and it seems as though no one is willing to discuss the matter, as you can see here. i'm sorry if i killed your thread by posting that.

i mean, how would a ballot, once counted, be reconnected to the envelope it came from if that envelope/voter is later deemed invalid?

i don't see any way to do that, and if there is no way to do that, then all ballots other than those cast in-person must be invalidated for this election.

no other way about it.

do i think that'll happen?

no, the people have become too complacent, too subjugated for us to demand it in the numbers needed.

Last Edited by Anonymous Cowherder on 11/13/2020 07:35 PM
Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Reapportionment Act of 1929!

Thread: First steps down the road to a return to the Constitutional Republic that we were intended to be.

Restore the Republic.

Thread: The Bill of Rights does NOT include age requirements!

It's a flower, not something to be feared.

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