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GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION

 
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Other than Love, what then was Christ's new message?
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Please don’t.

That’s going to open a Pandora’s box for all the bibletards to derail the thread.

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Sorry - I was hoping that just this particular person would respond as he didn't seem to be a Bible thumper.
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Again why did the original source of all allow this to happen? No one anywhere has that actual answer. That is the real question. Things are not what they seem.... to anyone.
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I have pondered this as well. I have read some Gnostic texts and the idea there seems to be that the source is so far removed from his various 'emanations' that maybe he is unaware? Then again, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense either....
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If you are speaking within the Gnostic context, I suppose what you are refering to is the Demiurge, and in this case I don't think "unaware" is the adequate term but rather "unconcerned".

However you forget Jesus Christ has come to earth, amongst mankind - as the "Son of Man" - for a reason.

Focusing on a Demiurge might have made sense at the time of the Gnostics but not anymore perhaps.
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Yes I believe Jesus called out the demiurge as Satan/Saturn which rules this reality and is the blood thirsty god of the old testament. Demons hate and fear his name for a reason. They fear Gnosticism which is why they killed Christians and gnostic Cathars until the Vatican subverted Christianity for its own means. Jesus brought back god energies or Christ consciousness. These are much higher density energies which demons hate.
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I don't think anyone is trying to derail the thread but we are trying to see if there are any truths or helps or snippets of useful information in Jesus or Buddha teachings/stories. For example, the Cathars were completely obliterated for a reason - what did they know that we don't know?
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Demons are being conjured. This is black magician society and with pedophilia and sacrifice at the core. Protect your kids

The tartarians were obliterated also. Supposedly they were put in insane asylums and their "children" were shipped off (taken to labor/concentration camps). James Lee wrote some good books about the tartarian empire and the mudfloods. Read books from the early 1900s, the language is completely different and much more difficult to understand. We are being dumbed down for the purposed of control to be herded like sheep. Basically the movie "the giver" should sum it all up.

Who is doing it? Is it an "arrival" scenario? (the movie with charlie sheen) where the demons are being summoned and able to put on human skin and walk among us?

Reminds me of the white wizard summoning his underworld army in lord of the rings.

Linkin Park - Papercut.... check out the music video. See the little conjured demon in the corner of the bath tub with the flies and bugs all around...... Lord of the flies right? The face inside is right beneath your skin? Maybe Jesus fasts in the wilderness to kill his own demons off inside of him. The Chinese believe some wild stuff about demonic attachments to internal worms/parasites. Are they crazy? Remember Neo having the worm yanked out of him?

Remember all the BUGS in constantine with keanu reeves? Black magicians working for the devil are trying to destroy society. Evil energies only work for people who intend to destroy....

Demons are being conjured.

[from "the secret teachings of all ages" - manly p hall]
> Second: By means of the secret processes of ceremonial magic it is possible to contact these invisible creatures and gain their help in some human undertaking. Good spirits willingly lend their assistance to any worthy enterprise, but the evil sprits serve only those who live to pervert and destroy.
> Third: It is possible to make contracts with spirits whereby the magician becomes for a stipulated time the master of an elemental being.
> Fourth: True black magic is performed with the aid of a demoniacal spirt, who serves the sorcerer for the length of their earthly life, with the understanding that after death the magician shall become the servant of his own demon. For this reason a black magician will go to inconceivable ends to prolong his physical life, since there is nothing for him beyond the grave.

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Did you dream this?
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I AM AN EXPERT AT ASTRAL TRAVEL AND HAVE SEEN IT AND HORRIFYING SIMILAR EXPERIENCES MANY HUNDREDS OF TIMES.

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mee too ! my parents are screed ! truth is other ....

they are as fucked as being alive , they left a fucking hell here !
Are we screwd ! ~~~~
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I have pondered this as well. I have read some Gnostic texts and the idea there seems to be that the source is so far removed from his various 'emanations' that maybe he is unaware? Then again, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense either....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79047252

If you are speaking within the Gnostic context, I suppose what you are refering to is the Demiurge, and in this case I don't think "unaware" is the adequate term but rather "unconcerned".

However you forget Jesus Christ has come to earth, amongst mankind - as the "Son of Man" - for a reason.

Focusing on a Demiurge might have made sense at the time of the Gnostics but not anymore perhaps.
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Yes I believe Jesus called out the demiurge as Satan/Saturn which rules this reality and is the blood thirsty god of the old testament. Demons hate and fear his name for a reason. They fear Gnosticism which is why they killed Christians and gnostic Cathars until the Vatican subverted Christianity for its own means. Jesus brought back god energies or Christ consciousness. These are much higher density energies which demons hate.
 Quoting: EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET


I don't think anyone is trying to derail the thread but we are trying to see if there are any truths or helps or snippets of useful information in Jesus or Buddha teachings/stories. For example, the Cathars were completely obliterated for a reason - what did they know that we don't know?
 Quoting: Jennifer X


They knew how to escape this prison. They had knowledge that was extremely dangerous for the current rulers of this fallen world. The beast (rome) went out to eliminate them as they were seen as a rival since their influence at the time was starting to grow.
I believe one of the ways to escape this frequency of earth is to elevate your own by being "good" and in tune with source. The higher your raise your vibrations, the harder it is for the orion empire group to control you.
EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET to farm loosh and adrenochrome.

Read this if you want to know the truth of it all: Thread: My compilation of proof that we live in the evil matrix!!!

Dark bastard exposes the farm here: Thread: The FaRm.......
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There are 3 well known historical entities who claim to have escaped and ascended above and beyond these Prisons:

* Siddhartha Gautama (the first Bhuddha)

* Hermès Trismegistus (founder of Hermeticism)

* Jesus the Christ (the first Gnostic)


........your thoughts?

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Jesus Christ was not a Gnostic - never mind the first one.

You fail to realize He came here with a totally new message, although he came in a time when Gnosticism still existed.

I don't think either Christ claimed at any time any "escape" of one sort or another.
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I believe escaping this hell is the easy way out and does not really help anyone but yourself. Jesus came to transform this satanic matrix but ended up crucified since man rejected him. The coming antichrist will try to undo his work. Christianity may not be gnostic but it is an offshoot and they are like cousins. I have personally experienced demons harrassing me but when I invoked the name of the Lord, they all disappeared and I felt at pure peace. Other abductees have also said the same for demons and ayys. Reality is stranger than fiction
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I just want to point out that Jesus was copied from the Egyptian god Horus, who might also have been derived from earlier Sumerian god myths. The movie Zeitgeist explains their connections clearly. Knowing this, I cannot accept the Jesus character or even Horus is questionable even though I wear an eye of Horus necklace.
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Other than Love, what then was Christ's new message?
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Please don’t.

That’s going to open a Pandora’s box for all the bibletards to derail the thread.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


Exactly. It’s like asking who needs more money? The line will circle the flat earth a hundred times over.
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Does masturbation or sex drain you of vital fluids and make you weaker? If so how can you fully stop it as I feel it is the only thing preventing me from succeeding in life? If I do try to abstain, demons will force me to do it at night and it sucks hard.
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It’s Virya and Ojas.

Ayurveda talks about how frequency of ejaculation related to health and longevity has to do with diet, seasons, individual constitution, age and habits; meaning that theoretically ejaculation frequency can be monitored so as to not lose Ojas; but for a serious Yogi, I think this is playing games. Meaning a serious Yogi would aim for mastering the sexual energy completely, instead of fooling around with “I could ejaculate this many times this month” etc.

Masturbation (and homosexuality) is what Samael Aun Weor’s teachings from over at Gnosticteachings.org would call the sphere of lilith; and casual sex is what he’d call the sphere of nahemah. If you had to choose one, nahemah would be less harmful for one’s subtle bodies generally speaking (unless maybe you were to end up with an particularly malignant sexual partner). Masturbation is said to attract incubi and/or succubi.

My question about Samael Aun Weor’s simple ‘Hindu’ style methods for controlling sexual energy, is why would Buddhist Yogi’s go through all the complex Yogic methods like Khrul Khor and Tsa Lung, if it were as simple as doing some simple alternate nostril breathing Pranayama?

Theoretically though, the sexual energies could sublimate or transmute automatically through the ‘simple’ Dzogchen method of “meditation”; but I think most people would have to have studied a lot and done solitary practice retreats for this to realistically happen. The only way to find out would be to receive Dzogchen teachings, and go by your own experience.

Anyway, I don’t want to go on an long tangent of speculation. I have my own experience with these things; but I don’t generally talk about it. Everyone has to get their own experience.

Here’s a good introductory work on the importance of the sexual energy by Swami Sivananda called The Practice of Brahmacharya:

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it is also said that Horus is part of the unholy trinity so who knows for sure? Jesus of the "other side"? As above, so below right? Mirror images on one another, just upside down. Right is wrong and wrong is right?
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masturbation is a heck of a lot safer than raping people, paying for sex, ruining the beauty of sex by just F'ing everything, etc. You are aware of the thoughts going through your head and what you are lusting after...

watching porn supports the industry, keeps it alive, and reprograms your brain (watch it enough and you can't keep a boner in real sex, you will see). Being a pervert and masturbating are two entirely different things.
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If you are speaking within the Gnostic context, I suppose what you are refering to is the Demiurge, and in this case I don't think "unaware" is the adequate term but rather "unconcerned".

However you forget Jesus Christ has come to earth, amongst mankind - as the "Son of Man" - for a reason.

Focusing on a Demiurge might have made sense at the time of the Gnostics but not anymore perhaps.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79291427


Yes I believe Jesus called out the demiurge as Satan/Saturn which rules this reality and is the blood thirsty god of the old testament. Demons hate and fear his name for a reason. They fear Gnosticism which is why they killed Christians and gnostic Cathars until the Vatican subverted Christianity for its own means. Jesus brought back god energies or Christ consciousness. These are much higher density energies which demons hate.
 Quoting: EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET


I don't think anyone is trying to derail the thread but we are trying to see if there are any truths or helps or snippets of useful information in Jesus or Buddha teachings/stories. For example, the Cathars were completely obliterated for a reason - what did they know that we don't know?
 Quoting: Jennifer X


They knew how to escape this prison. They had knowledge that was extremely dangerous for the current rulers of this fallen world. The beast (rome) went out to eliminate them as they were seen as a rival since their influence at the time was starting to grow.
I believe one of the ways to escape this frequency of earth is to elevate your own by being "good" and in tune with source. The higher your raise your vibrations, the harder it is for the orion empire group to control you.
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This is a good point. I believe higher vibration is the key to escaping the matrix. In fact I can go so far to say that death is merely a disease. When the people living in Garden of Eden existed, I don’t think death was an issue. That’s why once man was banished, they began to die. Perhaps the garden of eden contains a permanent connection to source so people are continually regenerated and never age? In fact, the garden of eden may not be a physical place; it might be located in another realm/dimension. That’s why the elite try so hard to lower our vibration so we lose the creative life force. If we can sustain this connection to the source, I think we can become immortal.
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to spiritualize "casual sex" is totally ridiculous. I appreciate all world religions, but common sense is common sense. You cannot say in this day in age where OVER 50% of people have herpes/hpv that casual sex is a better option of masturbation without watching perv material. Is this what you teach your kids? Yeah, do nothing if you can, but to say just going out and fuckin around is a better option than masturbation says a lot about you in my opinion.
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masturbation is a heck of a lot safer than raping people, paying for sex, ruining the beauty of sex by just F'ing everything, etc. You are aware of the thoughts going through your head and what you are lusting after...

watching porn supports the industry, keeps it alive, and reprograms your brain (watch it enough and you can't keep a boner in real sex, you will see). Being a pervert and masturbating are two entirely different things.
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to spiritualize "casual sex" is totally ridiculous. I appreciate all world religions, but common sense is common sense. You cannot say in this day in age where OVER 50% of people have herpes/hpv that casual sex is a better option of masturbation without watching perv material. Is this what you teach your kids? Yeah, do nothing if you can, but to say just going out and fuckin around is a better option than masturbation says a lot about you in my opinion.
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Masturbating is no less being an pervert than heterosexual sex.

Anyway I edited my above post you’re referring to, with added clarifications.

In any case, the lilith vs nahemah stuff isn’t the main point anyway.

The main point I was making, is that you either gain control of sexual energy or you don’t.

And although there are some guidelines found within in various Yogic streams, it’s ultimately one’s own study and experience that will determine what that means.

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The snake is in the garden of eden, right? The snakes temptation was accepted "to know." ..... Basically to know evil. To feel it, be tempted by it, experience the pain of it, experience the cheap thrills of it, experience the addiction of it, experience the double-edged sword of it.

So the devil told the truth, they would have their minds opened to an entirely different realm.

Cipher in the matrix says: "Ignorance is bliss, while he eats the steak"

What if the true answer is this: "Innocence is bliss"

The devil ruined innocence. Was he lying about the increase of knowledge? Not really. Would we have been better off without this knowledge?

You decide.
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Increasing one's vibratory frequency will certainly serve as a protection against "most" energy parasites.

This is a crucial point to be remembered.

The very reason we are all trapped here is to provide low-vibration loosh energy to these Dark entities.

WE ARE MERELY FOOD.

So while we can take action to not attract a hungry hoard of parasitic energy vampires to ourselves, we will nonetheless be targeted by the more intelligent Dark forces to cause certain situations and events to befall us that will yield anger, fear, depression and despondency, anxiety, etc., all of which are low-vibrational, low-frequency energies that are what they NEED to survive.

But raising one's vibrational energy frequency is NOT a ticket to the Exit Door of the Matrix. Not by a long shot.

Yes, we must always work toward being higher frequency beings, but do not make the mistake of thinking that's your way out.

That's a false belief held by the so-called "christians".

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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The snake is in the garden of eden, right? The snakes temptation was accepted "to know." ..... Basically to know evil. To feel it, be tempted by it, experience the pain of it, experience the cheap thrills of it, experience the addiction of it, experience the double-edged sword of it.

So the devil told the truth, they would have their minds opened to an entirely different realm.

Cipher in the matrix says: "Ignorance is bliss, while he eats the steak"

What if the true answer is this: "Innocence is bliss"

The devil ruined innocence. Was he lying about the increase of knowledge? Not really. Would we have been better off without this knowledge?

You decide.
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I was referring to the garden as the way to escape the matrix because it’s where we came from (possibly).

But as to the concept of evil, although interesting, is not really related to this thread. If you could make an avatar with profile that would help identify you easier, thanks.
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Increasing one's vibratory frequency will certainly serve as a protection against "most" energy parasites.

This is a crucial point to be remembered.

The very reason we are all trapped here is to provide low-vibration loosh energy to these Dark entities.

WE ARE MERELY FOOD.

So while we can take action to not attract a hungry hoard of parasitic energy vampires to ourselves, we will nonetheless be targeted by the more intelligent Dark forces to cause certain situations and events to befall us that will yield anger, fear, depression and despondency, anxiety, etc., all of which are low-vibrational, low-frequency energies that are what they NEED to survive.

But raising one's vibrational energy frequency is NOT a ticket to the Exit Door of the Matrix. Not by a long shot.

Yes, we must always work toward being higher frequency beings, but do not make the mistake of thinking that's your way out.

That's a false belief held by the so-called "christians".

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I’m no spiritual guru, but I think once you’ve mastered all seven chakras you upgrade the human body. It’s certainly a good defense against the parasites no doubt. But the exact potential of this approach is not yet clear.
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holy living isn't done to achieve a "way out" it is done to transform a person from the inside out. It's building a habit similar to goals in diet, life, etc. The exit happens upon death. It is a life lived with a clear conscience that does not fear death. What is your opinion of dying and then actually finding a "hole" in the prison system? So what about the people who have escaped upon death? We can't exactly go crawl into the hole they have escaped from, interview them, and then return back to this realm to report it. I have never died in my memory. Have you died? How can anyone know unless they have truly died and seen it for themselves. There would need to be evidence of some sort
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The snake is in the garden of eden, right? The snakes temptation was accepted "to know." ..... Basically to know evil. To feel it, be tempted by it, experience the pain of it, experience the cheap thrills of it, experience the addiction of it, experience the double-edged sword of it.

So the devil told the truth, they would have their minds opened to an entirely different realm.

Cipher in the matrix says: "Ignorance is bliss, while he eats the steak"

What if the true answer is this: "Innocence is bliss"

The devil ruined innocence. Was he lying about the increase of knowledge? Not really. Would we have been better off without this knowledge?

You decide.
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See what I mean, Jennifer?? The above post has NOTHING to do with this thread, but by opening that door, you invite all manner of Religitards to the party.

I've been on GLP since 2005. Fifteen years of GLP experience with these closed-minded ones.

You open that door just a crack to the Religitards, and a zombie hoard of them will come crashing through it.

You're still new to GLP and innocent. You haven't experienced this 10,000 times yet as I have.

PLEASE, for the love of CATS and TEDDY BEARS, create a separate thread for them if you so desire. You have an upgraded membership now, so you can even moderate your threads and delete posts and ban posters that attempt to derail your thread.

Unfortunately, OP was not yet upgraded when he began this thread, so he's unable to use those features.

Since those of us in this group have already graduated beyond the mental confines of Abrahamic religion, I'm asking all of you to please not go backward to that subject. It only serves to invite its subscribers who will only post here to DERAIL the thread, NOT to contribute useful information to it.

Thank you, all.

Now there will be an onslaught of bibletarders who will only post their deprecatory comments to this post!

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Zovalex. You write:

"Whereas, OP maintains the Archons are trying to sever his silver cord."

The silver cord is not the connection to source - the whole soul is. It IS source, we are fragments. That cord is only the connection between physical body and spirit bodies while your physical body is alive and kicking - and you are out and about in the astral and other realms.

They try cut it, to put your soul bodies into the process of recycling and memory loss again. Anyone being able to AT/AP would be like an intruder and a threat to their setup I guess. This thread would be a great threat if millions where viewing it since it opens peoples minds.

At some point the soul loses the connection to source. I don't know why or what will make that happen but it's clear that this happened for these entities, unless they are not just a.i. the whole bunch of them.

Keeping us as batteries maybe is the point we render useless, I don't know, but there must be a reason they carefully plan out their ways to keep us trapped, but still being able to have some kind of free life. Their next step is to make us believe we have a life just this time in the digital world.

If they fail, they suicide. They need us, if we go down, they go down. At which point, only source knows this answer I believe.

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insults aren't a rebuttal. the middle school mud slinging with no backbone is what is making society violent and unreasonable
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Thanks Zova. The Bibletards were returning lol. We definitely have moved on from mainstream religion. The only reason for referring to religion is probably looking at it through the eyes of the matrix material we’ve learned, instead of adhering to it like a stubborn child.
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insults aren't a rebuttal. the middle school mud slinging with no backbone is what is making society violent and unreasonable
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What are you talking about?
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Re: GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION
holy living isn't done to achieve a "way out" it is done to transform a person from the inside out. It's building a habit similar to goals in diet, life, etc. The exit happens upon death. It is a life lived with a clear conscience that does not fear death. What is your opinion of dying and then actually finding a "hole" in the prison system? So what about the people who have escaped upon death? We can't exactly go crawl into the hole they have escaped from, interview them, and then return back to this realm to report it. I have never died in my memory. Have you died? How can anyone know unless they have truly died and seen it for themselves. There would need to be evidence of some sort
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The Bardo texts (“the Tibetan Book of the Dead”) say that even if you have an lot of emotional & psychological obscurations, or karma-vipaka if you will, you can still attain liberation during the death process. Dzogchen doesn’t talk about having to come back to “earth-school” to work out karma through life lessons as the archons are purported to say.

This is why Dzogchen is a ‘short cut’ compared to other Buddhist teachings, because liberation isn’t only about resolving emotional & psychological obscurations (however these naturally begin to dissolve by themselves via the Dzogchen methods); it’s also about preparing for death so that when the death process begins, you know what to look for, and if you recognize it, whatever emotional & psychological obscurations you’re still carrying within will dissolve all at once in the Bardo, and you attain total liberation right then and there.
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The truth is always defended with lies. So how many people have actually died. Tell me about it..... what happened and what did you see. How many lives have you lived? What sort of proof can you offer?
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The truth is always defended with lies. So how many people have actually died. Tell me about it..... what happened and what did you see. How many lives have you lived? What sort of proof can you offer?
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I despise people who come onto the thread all a sudden and act like they know it all. Especially the ones who don’t even have a profile. Tell “you” about it. Who are “you?” All I see is a blank face with no name telling us what to think. At least with registered users you can see how many posts they’ve made, the threads they started, their favorite categories, even a picture/name, and their karma (reputation on this website). But you are giving none of these. AC stands for anonymous coward for a reason...it’s not just to be funny.

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Re: GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION
The way I see it is one would be on their best behavior if they were being entertained by their favorite musical legend, A king of some country who could throw you in jail, a boss who could fire you, your spouse, etc. Doing the right thing makes sense because of "natural law".... It can't be explained because it is common sense that everyone agrees on.

Another example of natural law: We don't attack people and send them to the hospital with injuries when we are mad at them as way to vent our anger OR we don't steal peoples homes and cars because we like them and feel like it.

Holy living is simply common sense and really does not have anything to do with being a "religatard". If this realm is run by "evil agent smiths", then still, even evil doesn't backstab itself (it would cease to exist).

If you are going to die, it makes sense to die with a legacy of doing the right thing and doing your best to right your wrongs and make some type of difference for good; when people mock you for it, it's because they are forced to look at themselves in light of your reflection perhaps. Maybe they are the agent smiths?
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Re: GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION
This is why Dzogchen is a ‘short cut’ compared to other Buddhist teachings, because liberation isn’t only about resolving emotional & psychological obscurations (however these naturally begin to dissolve by themselves via the Dzogchen methods); it’s also about preparing for death so that when the death process begins, you know what to look for, and if you recognize it, whatever emotional & psychological obscurations you’re still carrying within will dissolve all at once in the Bardo, and you attain total liberation right then and there.
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I've read some of the Dzogchen teachings of Namkhai Norbu.

Still processing that information.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Re: GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION
The snake is in the garden of eden, right? The snakes temptation was accepted "to know." ..... Basically to know evil. To feel it, be tempted by it, experience the pain of it, experience the cheap thrills of it, experience the addiction of it, experience the double-edged sword of it.

So the devil told the truth, they would have their minds opened to an entirely different realm.

Cipher in the matrix says: "Ignorance is bliss, while he eats the steak"

What if the true answer is this: "Innocence is bliss"

The devil ruined innocence. Was he lying about the increase of knowledge? Not really. Would we have been better off without this knowledge?

You decide.
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See what I mean, Jennifer?? The above post has NOTHING to do with this thread, but by opening that door, you invite all manner of Religitards to the party.

I've been on GLP since 2005. Fifteen years of GLP experience with these closed-minded ones.

You open that door just a crack to the Religitards, and a zombie hoard of them will come crashing through it.

You're still new to GLP and innocent. You haven't experienced this 10,000 times yet as I have.

PLEASE, for the love of CATS and TEDDY BEARS, create a separate thread for them if you so desire. You have an upgraded membership now, so you can even moderate your threads and delete posts and ban posters that attempt to derail your thread.

Unfortunately, OP was not yet upgraded when he began this thread, so he's unable to use those features.

Since those of us in this group have already graduated beyond the mental confines of Abrahamic religion, I'm asking all of you to please not go backward to that subject. It only serves to invite its subscribers who will only post here to DERAIL the thread, NOT to contribute useful information to it.

Thank you, all.

Now there will be an onslaught of bibletarders who will only post their deprecatory comments to this post!

putin
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I will take a backseat from now on and simply read the thread. I'm not sure what questions are hot buttons or not, so I'll be quiet and just read from henceforth.
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