GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION

HI. HE IS ALREADY DEAD. I AM STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DESTROY AN ASTRAL ENTITY.

IT IS ALSO WORTH NOTING THEY HAVE SECURITY/LAW ENFORCEMENT THUGS ALL OVER THE AFTERLIFE. CHANGING THINGS IN THE AFTERLIFE IS GOING TO BE INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT. BUT THE OTHER CHOICE IS TO REMAIN A SLAVE. I CHOOSE TO FIGHT.

Does the name of Jesus Christ drive the demons away? Can you try this on astral parasites and tell me what happens? It seems to work for me. According to CERN video, faith (antimatter) is the only detergent to the demons. Having faith harnesses this emotion from this realm and can cure any disease which is what ppl call placebo. If you can harness this energy, it's game over.


Yes, that's what I believe too, that's why I still beliving in Christ.


IT IS THE INTENT THAT DRIVES THEM AWAY. YOUR FAKE SAVIOR IS A REBOOT OF THE HORUS MYTH.

THE ENTIRE "SON OF GOD" THING GOES ALL THE WAY BACK THE ANCIENTS WHO THOUGHT THE SUN WAS ACTUALLY GOD.

YOUR ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT ME IS ACTUALLY YOUR SEEKING OF VALIDATION TOWARDS YOUR OWN ARCHAIC INFANTILE BELIEFS.

THIS IS INDICATIVE OF ALL HUMANS WHO ARE MIND CONTROLLED INTO "DEITY WORSHIP".






I think people are still believing in Christ because the message about everyone being FORCED to reincarnate, no matter what they do or don't do, is a pretty hopeless and grim view. A person can't live without hope. I am a former Christian but I understand why people believe and why people want to believe. The truth is, even though you have told of your experiences, we still don't know whether you are perceiving TRUE REALITY. You and others may in fact be traveling to some dream / astral world that doesn't represent the actual situation. Regardless of what other people have experienced or not, it is still your experience that you are relating to the rest of us. There is some confusion as to if you actually think that EVERYBODY is FORCED to reincarnate whether or not they refuse. If the truth is that they force you anyway, then there is no purpose to our lives, no purpose to our existence, we are hopelessly enslaved for eternity or until this system degrades or someone takes it down. If we human beings are actually powerless to change this, then it's natural to hope that someone else will come to save us. Because if it really doesn't matter what we do or don't do - if we're doomed anyhow - then what is to stop us from living the rest of our lives in gloom and fear?

AS I HAVE SAID MANY TIMES BEFORE: MANY OTHER PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE THE SAME EXPERIENCES I AM HAVING.

CAMERON DAY, WES PENRE, AUG TELLEZ AND RON MONTALK ARE JUST A FEW. DO SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH ON THEM AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND.

I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DREAMING AND ASTRAL PROJECTION. LUCID DREAMING IS ALSO COMPLETELY DIFFERENT FROM REGULAR NONSENSE DREAMS.

ONCE AGAIN: PEOPLE HIGHLY TRAINED IN ASTRAL TRAVEL HAVE BEEN DOING THIS LONGER THAN I HAVE. ROBERT MONROE STARTED 50 YEARS AGO AND WROTE THREE BOOKS ON THE SUBJECT.

WILLIAM BUHLMAN HAS CONTINUED MONROES RESEARCH AND HAD BEEN DOING ASTRAL TRAVEL FOR MANY DECADES. HE HAS ALSO WRITTEN ACCLAIMED BOOKS ON THE SUBJECT AS WELL AS ROBERT BRUCE.

ALL OF THESE MEN ARE HIGHLY EDUCATED AND ARE LONG TIME EXPERTS AT ASTRAL TRAVEL. THEY SAY THE EXACT SAME THINGS I AM NOW SAYING ON THESE THREADS.

THE FACT IS YOU HAVE NOT DONE THE DECADES OF NON STOP RESEARCH ON THE SUBJECT. YOU HAVE NOT TRAVELED INTO THE ASTRAL AFTERLIFE OVER A THOUSAND TIMES.

I AM SORRY TO BREAK IT TO YOU. THIS IS ALL REALLY HAPPENING. IT IS ALL 100% FACTUAL. IF IT CAUSES YOU ANGUISH YOU ARE NOT ALONE. WE ALL FEEL HORRIBLY UPSET.

I REGULARLY SEE PEOPLE I LOVE THAT ARE IN A HORRIBLY F^^^ED UP SCENARIO. I DO NOT ENOY THIS. I WOULD RATHER BE SNOWBOARDING AND DRINKING CHAMPAGNE. UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS REAL WORK TO DO IF ONE WANTS TO THIS ENSLAVEMENT.

Can we save ourselves? If yes, great! How do we do this and can you show me proof that it works. If the answer is No, then we need a liberator.

OP...

I have absolutely no doubt that there are other Souls on earth that did NOT originate from earth. I personally know one. Perhaps you are also one of them.

Do you feel you were captured/kidnapped and forced here, or do you feel you came voluntarily?

If voluntarily, at what age did you begin to realize you weren’t from here?
How and when did you learn the truth of our prison farm?

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You save yourself by declaring you are a sovereign being and want to be free from this shithole or you can be a rebel and join the resistance in the astral. Your choice your destiny. We are getting liberated from the silver legion and the protoi. And no, your fake ass anomaly won't save your sorry ass. He is done with mankind and moving on. You ape bastards pissed him off.

Even if we are forced to reincarnate, we should at least choose our fucking races/sex and where you want to be born instead of forced to be born in a shitty life you didn't choose. We will have free reincarnations for those that still want to stay here. Mark my words comrade!

OP, In Brazil, there is a research center totally focused on this(astral projection) [link to iipc.org (secure)] a new science was created, according to its creator, Waldo Vieira, which is projectiology. Waldo Vieira created this institute several decades ago and, according to him, he traveled the astral world every day. People from all over the world go to this institute, which is in the city of Foz do Iguaçu, to learn the techniques of astral projection, many say that they manage it and make many reports. The problem is that these reports, including Waldo's, are spiritist (Allan Kardec, Chico Xavier, etc.), the old story that this world is a school and you reincarnate to learn. There is also another famous projeologist here called Wagner Borges, who has several books along the same lines. Your report is the first one I see that has a completely different narrative and worldview, and from what I have studied the subject (yes, I have studied a lot and have left the body a few times and many lucid dreams), these people have more time practical than you, Waldo died at the age of 80 and started projection when he was very young. Why should I believe him? For me, the narratives of Waldo Vieira, Chico Xavier and so many others like them, are false, after all, I think yours is more likely, but, as I doubted theirs, for obvious reasons, I am led to doubt you too. How can they be wrong after so much practice and study and you are right?
Anyway, the simple fact that I am reading this thread tells me that there is some truth here, and I am interested in the truth, only the truth, nothing but the truth.

Good answer, OP.

I have a question about reincarnation. For me, reincarnation does not exist, if you erase a person's memories, you kill him, because memories are the main attribute of a conscious being. The person who believes in reincarnation says: I am going to die and reincarnate like someone else. I say: Either you are you, or you are someone else, this "reincarnating as someone else" thing does not make sense, metaphysically speaking.
My question is this: When the person's memories are erased, are they lost forever or are they somewhere in the unconscious/subconscious?

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I’m pretty sure OP already said silver legion is a psyop. Not sure what the protoi are either but most likely some new age nonsense. It’s us vs them. Nobody else is coming, sorry. So let’s figure out how to get rid of these parasites. I always have the mentality of “if I don’t do it no one will”.

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Nothing new under the sun.
So many books, so many people reporting traveling in the astral and zero truth! That is the reason for my skepticism.

Yes, that's what I believe too, that's why I still beliving in Christ.


IT IS THE INTENT THAT DRIVES THEM AWAY. YOUR FAKE SAVIOR IS A REBOOT OF THE HORUS MYTH.

THE ENTIRE "SON OF GOD" THING GOES ALL THE WAY BACK THE ANCIENTS WHO THOUGHT THE SUN WAS ACTUALLY GOD.

YOUR ATTEMPT TO DISCREDIT ME IS ACTUALLY YOUR SEEKING OF VALIDATION TOWARDS YOUR OWN ARCHAIC INFANTILE BELIEFS.

THIS IS INDICATIVE OF ALL HUMANS WHO ARE MIND CONTROLLED INTO "DEITY WORSHIP".






I think people are still believing in Christ because the message about everyone being FORCED to reincarnate, no matter what they do or don't do, is a pretty hopeless and grim view. A person can't live without hope. I am a former Christian but I understand why people believe and why people want to believe. The truth is, even though you have told of your experiences, we still don't know whether you are perceiving TRUE REALITY. You and others may in fact be traveling to some dream / astral world that doesn't represent the actual situation. Regardless of what other people have experienced or not, it is still your experience that you are relating to the rest of us. There is some confusion as to if you actually think that EVERYBODY is FORCED to reincarnate whether or not they refuse. If the truth is that they force you anyway, then there is no purpose to our lives, no purpose to our existence, we are hopelessly enslaved for eternity or until this system degrades or someone takes it down. If we human beings are actually powerless to change this, then it's natural to hope that someone else will come to save us. Because if it really doesn't matter what we do or don't do - if we're doomed anyhow - then what is to stop us from living the rest of our lives in gloom and fear?


Good point, and I already talked about it here.

We didn’t choose to be born, what makes you think we have a choice at death?

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This one is my favorite, hahaha, it is full of techniques and reports of astral projections (oh, yes, they say it is 100% real!). OP thinks he discovered the wheel...I have been researching this astral projection thing for at least 20 years!

Brazil....

There is no absolute proof of anything in connection with the spiritual.

None.

I have already posted that ALL belief systems, ALL philosophies, ALL doctrines.... ALL have “elements of Truth” within them, yet they ALL assert to hold Absolute Truth.

Your questions are obviously to discern what is Truth and what is not, but the reality is.... it’s all “relative Truth”.

You are NOT going to find “Absolute Truth”.

All you will find are “elements of Truth”.

With the sole exception of Islam, I have researched and studied all of the various schools of thought that are available to humans to learn:

Daoism, Hinduism, Christianity, Hermeticism, Buddhism, Jud*ism, and many different metaphysical, Esoteric, and other New Age beliefs.

After many years of applying my studies against my personal life experience, I have deduced that NONE of it is “Truth”, yet ALL of it contains “elements of Truth”.

I don’t know if you have taken the time to read the entire thread, but if you have, what you see here in this thread is THE closest thing to real Truth that you’re going to find.

Do I strike you as simple-Minded?

Do I give you the impression that I am easily persuaded?

Your skepticism is valid, but you will eventually and necessarily come to the realization that there is NO “Absolute Truth” available for you to discover.

In my experienced opinion, what you are reading right here is as close as it gets.

Is it 100% actual and foolproof Truth?

Of coarse not.

It’s all “elements of Truth”, but I submit there are more elements of Truth in this thread than you are likely to find anywhere.

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So what are your findings of the Astral realm?

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Well said.

From the books: Nothing to pay, mushy reports of encounters with angels, spirits of light and the whole story that reincarnation is necessary for evolution, blablabla.

From my own experience in the astral: The astral plane is strange, dark, full of lost entities that do not know where they are, living like beggars. Sometimes they get together in groups. Sexual attacks are common. Some places have an extremely heavy atmosphere and the souls who are there do not realize it much, these people get used to it. Basically this is what I saw, if it was something of my imagination or if it was real, I can't say, I just know that, to me, it was extremely real, and it seemed very real to a beggar when she saw me and made a face of pure horror, as if I were a ghost, I think, in that situation, I was actually one.

Interesting.

That more-or-less jives with the OP’s findings - a place of deeply negative and dark energy.

I’ve never astral traveled but am learning it.

I have been something of a “magnet” for shadow people for more than 45 years. I’ve always suspected that if I dabbled in astral travel without being more spiritually mature and savvy, I might well open myself to some dark forces that I may otherwise be unable to rid myself of.

For that reason, I’ve held off from learning it.

I feel I’m ready now, but only to determine what I’m up against and how I can best prepare myself for it.

Welcome to the thread.

I’d like to hear more of your experiences, insights, and advice, please.
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HI. MY BELIEF IS THAT I CAME IN TO HELP HUMANITY. UNFORTUNATELY I SIGNIFICANTLY UNDERESTIMATED HOW BAD THINGS ARE IN THIS SIMULATION.

THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IS HUMANS ON THIS PLANET ARE MUCH MORE INTELLECTUALLY LAZY AND THEREFORE "STUPID". THE AMOUNT OF MIND CONTROL LAYERED UPON SOCIETY IS MUCH MORE THAN ANYONE COULD PLAN ON. THE MAJORITY OF THIS RELIGIOUS AND SOCIETAL PROGRAMMING TOOK ROOT BECAUSE HUMANS REFUSE TO QUESTION THINGS AND WILL NEVER QUESTION THE CREATED "SAVIORS" AND "GODS" THAT HAVE PUT THEM INTO SUBJUGATION.

AT A VERY YOUNG AGE I FELT COMPLETELY OUT OF PLACE. I WAS RAISED IN A LOVING AND VERY COMFORTABLE ATMOSPHERE, BUT ALWAYS FELT DIFFERENT FROM MY SIBLINGS AND EVERYONE ELSE.

AT AGE 14 I WAS WRITING BOOKS ON THE JFK AND RFK CONSPIRACIES AND KNEW THE ENTIRE POLITICAL SYSTEM WAS A SCAM. AT THIS SAME TIME I BEGAN RESEARCHING BUDDHISM AND THEOSOPH. THIS MIND EXPANSION LED TO MY THEORIZING THAT OBJECTS AND SCENARIOS COULD BE MAGNETIZED AND FORMULATED WITH "THOUGHT".

BEFORE ANY OF THIS I FELT THAT GOING TO CHURCH. WORKING ALL DAY TO POSSESS OBJECTS. PRAISING AND OBEYING THOSE WITH POLITICAL TILES OR BUSINESS CONQUESTS.


THESE THINGS SEEMED MEANINGLESS AND ABSURD TO ME. I AM A KIND AND CARING PERSON AND NEVER CAUSED TROUBLE, BUT I KNEW FROM ABOUT AGE 12 THAT THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM DID NOT RESONATE WITH ME AND SEEMED COMPLETELY FABRICATED AND FOREIGN. I ALSO BEGAN HAVING RECURRING DREAMS ABOUT BEING LEFT ON A FOREIGN UNIVERSE/REALITY WHICH I DID NOT UNDERSTAND AT ALL UNTIL I HAD A SIGNIFICANT ENLIGHTENMENT AFTER VIEWING THIS IMAGE: [link to www.nope?source=univ&tbm=isch&q=flammarion+engraving&sa=X&ved​=2ahUKEwiH4IPDzqvtAhXwRjABHdECBG8QiR56BAgUEAw&biw=1366&bih=65​7#imgrc=0dUSMutUHQg0uM (secure)]

FOR SOME REASON THE IMAGE OF THE "FLAMMARION ENGRAVING" WOULD NOT POST.

SO LETS TRY THIS AGAIN: [link to www.etsy.com (secure)]

HI. THE IMAGES AND MEMORIES STILL EXIST WITHIN THE DEEP SUBCONSCIOUS. SOMETIMES PIECES OF THESE MEMORIES LEAK INTO THE DREAMSTATE AND THE CONSCIOUS MIND.

THE ARCHONS ARE WIPING THE CONSCIOUS MIND AND HAVE BASICALLY PERFECTED THE PROCESS THROUGH PRACTICE ON MILLIONS OF HUMAN VICTIMS. THEY CANNOT WIPE THE SUBCONSCIOUS, BUT REALLY DO NOT NEED TO, BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF HUMANS ARE MOSTLY DISCONNECTED FROM THE SUBCONSCIOUS AND COMPLETELY FIXATED ON THE PROJECTED REALITY THEY SEE "OUT THERE".

MEMORY ERASE IS THE KEY TO THE ENSLAVEMENT OF HUMANITY. IF PEOPLE HAVE COMPLETE ACCESS TO THE MEMORY OF THE PRE REINCARNATION PERIOD THEY WOULD REBEL AND END THIS MADNESS.

THIS IS WHY THE ARCHONS HAD TO CREATE THE WHOLE "KARMIC DEBT" AND "EARTH SCHOOL" SCAMS. THIS ENABLED THEM TO GET THEIR VICTIMS TO AGREE TO MEMORY ERASE IN BELIEF THAT IT WAS ESSENTIAL FOR THEIR "SOUL GROWTH". THIS BRUTALLY PSYCHOTIC SCAM HAS BEEN UNCHALLENGED FOR A LONG TIME. NEW AGE PROGRAMMING HAS TAKEN OVER FOR RELIGIOUS BASED MIND CONTROL IN MOLDING AND SOLIDIFYING THE PERFECT VICTIMS WHO IN THEIR IGNORANCE ACTUALLY PRAISE AND KNEEL TO THEIR OPPRESSORS.

Nice pic! I remember seeing the same pic on those birthday horoscope dictionaries. There is so much going on in there. There are worlds outside the firmament if you bother to question your reality and explore further. It shows that the world we were born in, is not the only world there is.

HI. THE "FLAMMARION ENGRAVING" IS AN EXCELLENT DEPICTION OF THE SIMULATED UNIVERSE AND THE "REAL FREE UNIVERSE".

CAN YOU IMAGINE IF HUMANITY ACTUALLY KNEW THE CONCRETE WORLD THEY RESIDE IN IS ACTUALLY AN IMPOSTOR.

IN REGARDS TO "SATANISM" MANY PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED AND DO NOT SEE THERE IS MULTIPLE LEVELS OF WHAT IS KNOWN AS "SATANISM".

MANY PEOPLE LOOK AT THE BOHEMIAN TYPE SATANISTS WHO ARE PLEASURE SEEKERS OR ROLE PLAYERS. THEY THINK BECAUSE MOST OF THESE PEOPLE ARE HARMLESS IN THEIR ENDEAVORS THAT THIS IS ALL OF SATANISM AND THEREFORE IT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED NOT A PROBLEM.

ABOVE THOSE BOHEMIAN TYPES (WHO MOSTLY HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THE BIG PICTURE) THERE IS THOSE WHO ARE MORE "DEDICATED". A GOOD EXAMPLE IS JACK PARSONS AND HIS DEEP CONNECTIONS TO ALEISTER CROWLEY AND L. RON HUBBARD. PARSONS DID THE WHOLE SATANIC ORGY SCENE BUT WENT MUCH FURTHER. PARSONS AND HUBBARD CONSIDERED CROWLEY AS THEIR MENTOR AND THEY PERFORMED SATANIC RITUALS IN ATTEMPTS TO CREATE DEMONIC MOON CHILD.

THE NEXT LEVEL ABOVE THIS WOULD BE THE SATANIC GLOBAL ELITE. THIS IS A CABAL OF BILLIONAIRES AND TOP LEVEL POLITICIANS AND MEDIA CELEBRITIES. THESE PEOPLE ABDUCT, TORTURE AND SACRIFICE HUMANS. THEY KNOW WHO THE ARCHONS ARE AND WORSHIP THEM AND THE ENTITY THEY SEE AS THEIR "GOD" AND "GRAND ARCHITECT OF THE UNIVERSE: THE DEMIURGE.

DIRECTLY ABOVE THE GLOBAL ELITE IS THEIR ASTRAL BASED MASTERS "THE ARCHONS". THESE ARCHONS ARE A DERANGED SADISTIC GROUP OF BEINGS WHO ARE HIGHLY INTELLIGENT AND COMPLETELY PSYCHOTIC.

THE ARCHONS ARE SENTIENT AND WILL SEEM TO BE COMPLETLEY INDEPENDENT IN THEIR ACTIONS. IN ACTUALITY MOST OF THEM ARE SYNTHETIC MATRIX CREATIONS. THE ARCHONS AS WELL AS THE DEMIURGE ARE "NON SOULED BEINGS." ALTHOUGH THEY ARE INCREDIBLY POWERFUL AND CURRENTLY DOMINANT, THEY CANNOT EXIST OUTSIDE OF THE SIMULATED UNIVERSE. THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE BARRICADED IN THEIR VICTIMS TO PARASITE UPON AS AN ENERGY SOURCE.

Okay, so where is the hope in all of this? Are we doomed?

THE FIRST STEP IS TO IDENTIFY AND UNDERSTAND THE SLAVE MASTERS. THE NEXT STEP IS TO IDENTIFY THE WEAKNESS THAT WILL ALLOW THE DESTRUCTION OF THE ARCHON HIERACHY.

THEY RULE WITH CONSTANT LIES AND A FALSE IMAGE OF BEING HIGHER BEINGS WHO DESERVE OBEDIENCE AND COMPLETE SUBSERVIENCE.

IN MY PREVIOUS EXPLORATIONS IN THE AFTERLIFE I HAD SEEN DISTURBING SATANIC IMAGERY IN MANY LOCATIONS. WHEN SPEAKING WITH HIGH LEVEL HUMAN "SELLOUTS" THEY TOLD ME STRAIGHT UP THEY WERE DEVOTED SATANISTS AND THE SATANIC DEMIURGE WAS THE ALMIGHTY. THEY HAVE INCREDIBLE ARROGANCE AND WILL OPENLY ADMIT TO THEIR BRUTAL SATANIC BELIEFS AND PRACTICES IF ASKED.

THIS GREATLY DISTURBED ME AND I OFTEN THOUGHT HOW MASTER OF ASTRAL TRAVEL ROBERT MONROE WROTE ABOUT MEETING HUMANS WHO WERE HIGHLY CONFRONTATIONAL AND VIOLENT TOWARDS HIM. HE DESCRIBED LOUD TRUMPET MUSIC BEING BROADCASTED AS A GROUP OF ASTRAL LORDS APPROACHED WITH THEIR MASTER. DECEASED HUMANS QUICKLY LAY ON THE GROUND WITH EYES CLOSED AND THEIR STOMACH EXPOSED IN A DISPLAY OF COMPLETE SUBMISSION.

ON ONE OF MY VISITS INTO THE HUGE BUILDING CALLED "THE PROCESSING CENTER" I WANDERED AROUND A LARGE CAFETERIA. THERE WAS MANY REGULAR LOOKING DECEASED HUMANS THERE. I DECIDED TO RUN A TEST TO OBSERVE THE RESULTS: I YELLED OUT "SATAN IS COMING" AND HAD NO IDEA WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.

IMMEDIATELY EVERYONE STOPPED IN THEIR TRACKS AND LOOKED COMPLETELY HORRIFIED. A WOMAN LOUDLY STARTED SINGING "SATAN IS COMING". "SATAN IS COMING". SHE DID THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN.

YOU COULD TELL BY THE NERVOUSNESS OF HER VOICE SHE WAS DOING THIS TO WARN OTHER DECEASED HUMANS AND NOT COME ACROSS LIKE SHE WAS CAUSING TROUBLE. IT MADE IT LOOK LIKE SHE WAS PRAISING SATAN, BUT I THINK SHE WAS ACTUALLY WARNING THE PEOPLE IN THAT CAFETERIA.

EVERYONE BEGAN DROPPING TO THEIR KNEES. A YOUNG MALE ABOUT AGE 19 OR 20 LOOKED VERY CONFUSED. HE MUST HAVE BEEN NEWLY DECEASED. HE LOOKED AROUND AND SAW EVERYONE KNEELING DOWN ON THE GROUND AND HE NERVOUSLY KNELT AND PUT HIS TRAY OF FOOD ON THE GROUND. I CAN STILL SEE THE IMAGE IN MY MIND. IT WAS VERY SAD TO SEE THIS HAPPENING.

I FELT SUCH SADNESS FOR THESE PEOPLE, BUT WAS ALSO THE MOST SHOCKED AND SCARED I HAVE EVER BEEN, AND IMMEDIATELY RAN DOWN STAIRS INTO ANOTHER AREA.

So OP, I guess you are saying that you are still finding a way to remove these archons? That for the meantime, we are currently screwed? That’s very dark.

OP WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF SOME AYYS BLEW UP YHR PLANET? Would we finally be free? That has been my ultimate fantasy.