GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION

Wish I was an expert on Astral Travel. I did it once consciously 30 years ago and have yet to do it again.

You're completely missing the central point of the article, and instead getting caught up in minutiae, using that as your reason to dismiss the primary focus of the article and this thread.

The guy admits he was once part of the New Age "Love and Light" crowd, but now realizes he was mistaken, that the Demiurge fully utilizes BOTH polarities of Good and Evil, Light and Dark, to further its agenda. He admits that he now realizes the so-called "Light beings" are in fact constructs of the Demiurge.

THAT'S THE POINT.

That point has already been asserted much earlier in this thread.

The author of the article is clearly still having difficulty letting go of his ingrained need to believe we still have connection to REAL "Light beings of Truth", and that becomes obvious later in the article and should be dismissed as his continued confusion with that belief.

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This thread is getting hijacked over useless and baseless arguments over details of Gnosticism and Astral Travel.

The thread is NOT a promotion of "Gnosticism", nor is the OP positioning himself as the sole arbiter of all things Astral.

The point of the thread is to assist people to break free from the the Mind prison of religion and other new age beliefs that are nothing more than Archonic constructs to prevent you from learning the Truth that YES, you are in fact trapped in a reincarnation Soul prison farm.

You can choose to take the Red Pill, wake up and learn some horrible Truths of our reality, and you can learn what you can do to escape and/or no longer be one of its slaves...

OR....

You can choose to take the Blue Pill, remain asleep in ignorant bliss of the Soul prison farm, believing you deserve your shitty life, and that someday some "messiah" is coming to save mankind, or that "light beings" are going to arrive en masse in interdimensional spacecraft to take us away to a better place.




This thread is NOT about debating that choice.

This thread is for those who have already decided to take the Red Pill.

PERIOD.

Stop obfuscating the point of the thread with useless Blue Pill Babble.

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THE NWO ALREADY HAVE FULLY OPERATIONAL BASES ON MARS. THE SATANIC GLOBAL ELITE WILL ALL EVENTUALLY MOVE THERE AND LIVE IN ULTRA HIGH TECH LUXURY. EARTH WILL AT THAT POINT ONLY BE USED FOR SLAVE LABOR. SPACE FORCE HAS EXISTED FOR DECADES. THE NWO HAS OVERTAKEN AND HAS COLONIZED PLANETS IN ALPHA CENTAURI. WHAT GARY MCKINNON FOUND OUT ABOUT SPACE FORCE IS ONLY A SMALL PORTION OF WHAT THEY ARE DOING.

Thank you for this rational post Zova. These new age Christians and whatnot were coming in hard lol. I don’t know how they can be so stubborn to keep defending the old system. Always nitpicking at the details and forgetting the main point. We are slaves man. Period. The goal of this thread is to find out how to free ourselves from this slavery.

Last Edited by CopyNinja1987 on 12/01/2020 07:00 PM

Bingo.

This is also alluded to in Kabbalism, with Malkuth being an fallen sephirah etc.

But to try to get to the root of the matter (no pun intended) through studying all these gnostic and qabalistic texts is quite an roundabout way; when there are Yungdrung Bön and Dzogchen Lama’s who can introduce to you directly what material existence being a result of an error means.

^^^ CASE IN POINT ^^^


This is useless drivel that only detracts from the focus and central point of the thread.

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I already ignored him pages ago...always talking about Buddhism.

Uau! ALPHA CENTAURI! This is 4.37 light years from Earth! Are you sure the elite already dominate travel at the speed of light? Each time you go further, OP ... It's hard to believe.

These guys talk about wanting to free themselves from slavery and then bash everything that is proposed.

This thread is full of crap.
Colonization of Mars.
Travel at the speed of light.
ET's bases on the moon.
A guy who travels in the astral and frequents astral bars ... what the hell is that? What music they play in this bars? Rock and roll? What do they drink? Whiskey?
This cat guy is crazy! C-R-A-Z-Y!
The worst is not that, the worst are the idiots who support the madman.
This world is full of clowns.

You’re a clown. Outer space is not what you think. Watch godgevlamste on YouTube. The aliens are physical avatars for the demiurge. Other worlds exist beyond the firmament, outside Antarctica. Don’t present your lack of understanding as a legit rebuttal.

Last Edited by CopyNinja1987 on 12/01/2020 07:23 PM

Idiots and clowns, that's what they are all.

Lol do what you want you’re the one who will regret it later.

Hahaha, yes, so Ming of Mongo's planet.
You are all mongos.

So are we living in a lawless "do what thou wilt" wild west universe or is there any galactic government that can end this? Why are idiot humans assisting these assholes?

What he said (bold)

Notice in the video she says something to the effect of "If you were able to force me, you would have already done so." Is there any truth to this?

I know I'm going to get blasted for posting this link, but I don't care. The reason I'm posting it is this - let's say everything OP says is true, and we do everything we can not to reincarnate, yet somehow, some way, in spite of our refusals, in spite of our saying "I am a sovereign being" and in spite of announcing our refusal to consent, we find ourselves in front of the "lords of karma" being judged prior to being forced to have our memories wiped and forced into reincarnation. Perhaps this information might prove useful.

www.canyoustandthetruth.com/2011-06-27-10-21-33/

Go ahead and blast away. Again, I don't care. OP's postings are very hopeless. And I'm not saying he's not right. I don't know if he's right or not. He says Jesus never existed. I'm not so sure. Everyone has to make up their own mind about things.


THE ARCHONS ARE KNOWN FOR TELLING SOME THEIR VICTIMS "IT IS YOUR CHOICE" IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THE AFTERLIFE PERIOD. HUMANS ARE THEN UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THEY ARE NOT FORCED.THIS IS FOLLOWED BY CONSTANT LONG TERM PROGRAMMING TO BREAK DOWN THE TARGETED HUMAN AND TO DESTROY ANY RESISTANCE AND SELF DETERMINATION.

THE DECEASED HUMAN IS RELENTLESSLY TOLD THEY "MADE MISTAKES" TO THE POINT THE HUMAN IS SO BEATEN DOWN THAT THEY VIEW THEMSELVES AS UNWORTHY. THE TARGETED HUMAN HAS BEEN PREPPED FOR THE SOUL CONTRACT SCAM. ALMOST ALL HUMANS ARE FULLY BROKEN AND MIND CONTROLLED AT THAT POINT. THEY ARE MANIPULATED TO THE POINT OF THINKING THAT REINCARNATION CAN "SAVE THEM".

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS AND SOME WILL NOT GIVE IN. THE ARCHONS FORCE THESE PEOPLE INTO THE MEMORY ERASE HORROR AND REINSERT THEM INTO SLAVERY. THE WHOLE "CHOICE' THING IS ANOTHER ON OF THEIR SCAMS TO KEEP THE SLAVES IN LINE AND AVOID DISSENT.

THE LINK YOU POSTED IS TOTAL RELIGIOUS MIND CONTROL. THE PERSON WHO WROTE THAT MATERIAL IS USING THE "LIE SANDWICH" TECHNIQUE WHERE THEY THROW IN SOME REAL INFORMATION. THIS PERSON USES REAL THINGS SUCH "ARCHONS" AND THE "KARMIC LORDS COUNCIL" BUT THE REST OF THE CONTENT IS PURE MIND CONTROL.

IT IS CHRISTIANITY WITH THEOSOPHY MIXED IN TO LOOK INFORMED AND CUTTING EDGE. IN ACTUALITY IT IS THE SAME ENSLAVING GARBAGE REPACKAGED.

WE ARE ALL INSIDE OF A HUGE, INCREDIBLY ADVANCED VIRTUAL REALITY. THIS UNIVERSE IS A SIMULATION. MOST OF "ANCIENT HISTORY" NEVER HAPPEN. IT IS AN "ANCESTRAL SIMULATION". GODS AND SAVIORS ARE LITERALLY MYTHS. THE BIBLE IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A COMIC BOOK. UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE HAVE BASED THEIR EXISTENCE ON UPON FICTION.

Regret what? Didn't manage to escape Ming from Planet Mongo? Keep your Flash Gordon, Buck Rogers, whatever. That nonsense already pissed me off.

THE ARCHONS ARE KNOWN FOR TELLING SOME THEIR VICTIMS "IT IS YOUR CHOICE" IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THE AFTERLIFE PERIOD. HUMANS ARE THEN UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THEY ARE NOT FORCED.THIS IS FOLLOWED BY CONSTANT LONG TERM PROGRAMMING TO BREAK DOWN THE TARGETED HUMAN AND TO DESTROY ANY RESISTANCE AND SELF DETERMINATION.

THE DECEASED HUMAN IS RELENTLESSLY TOLD THEY "MADE MISTAKES" TO THE POINT THE HUMAN IS SO BEATEN DOWN THAT THEY VIEW THEMSELVES AS UNWORTHY. THE TARGETED HUMAN HAS BEEN PREPPED FOR THE SOUL CONTRACT SCAM. ALMOST ALL HUMANS ARE FULLY BROKEN AND MIND CONTROLLED AT THAT POINT. THEY ARE MANIPULATED TO THE POINT OF THINKING THAT REINCARNATION CAN "SAVE THEM".

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS AND SOME WILL NOT GIVE IN. THE ARCHONS FORCE THESE PEOPLE INTO THE MEMORY ERASE HORROR AND REINSERT THEM INTO SLAVERY. THE WHOLE "CHOICE' THING IS ANOTHER ON OF THEIR SCAMS TO KEEP THE SLAVES IN LINE AND AVOID DISSENT.

THE LINK YOU POSTED IS TOTAL RELIGIOUS MIND CONTROL. THE PERSON WHO WROTE THAT MATERIAL IS USING THE "LIE SANDWICH" TECHNIQUE WHERE THEY THROW IN SOME REAL INFORMATION. THIS PERSON USES REAL THINGS SUCH "ARCHONS" AND THE "KARMIC LORDS COUNCIL" BUT THE REST OF THE CONTENT IS PURE MIND CONTROL.

IT IS CHRISTIANITY WITH THEOSOPHY MIXED IN TO LOOK INFORMED AND CUTTING EDGE. IN ACTUALITY IT IS THE SAME ENSLAVING GARBAGE REPACKAGED.

WE ARE ALL INSIDE OF A HUGE, INCREDIBLY ADVANCED VIRTUAL REALITY. THIS UNIVERSE IS A SIMULATION. MOST OF "ANCIENT HISTORY" NEVER HAPPEN. IT IS AN "ANCESTRAL SIMULATION". GODS AND SAVIORS ARE LITERALLY MYTHS. THE BIBLE IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A COMIC BOOK. UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE HAVE BASED THEIR EXISTENCE ON UPON FICTION.






Have you astral travelled to other world? What is happening to the people of alpha Centauri?

THE ARCHONS ARE KNOWN FOR TELLING SOME THEIR VICTIMS "IT IS YOUR CHOICE" IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THE AFTERLIFE PERIOD. HUMANS ARE THEN UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THEY ARE NOT FORCED.THIS IS FOLLOWED BY CONSTANT LONG TERM PROGRAMMING TO BREAK DOWN THE TARGETED HUMAN AND TO DESTROY ANY RESISTANCE AND SELF DETERMINATION.

THE DECEASED HUMAN IS RELENTLESSLY TOLD THEY "MADE MISTAKES" TO THE POINT THE HUMAN IS SO BEATEN DOWN THAT THEY VIEW THEMSELVES AS UNWORTHY. THE TARGETED HUMAN HAS BEEN PREPPED FOR THE SOUL CONTRACT SCAM. ALMOST ALL HUMANS ARE FULLY BROKEN AND MIND CONTROLLED AT THAT POINT. THEY ARE MANIPULATED TO THE POINT OF THINKING THAT REINCARNATION CAN "SAVE THEM".

THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS AND SOME WILL NOT GIVE IN. THE ARCHONS FORCE THESE PEOPLE INTO THE MEMORY ERASE HORROR AND REINSERT THEM INTO SLAVERY. THE WHOLE "CHOICE' THING IS ANOTHER ON OF THEIR SCAMS TO KEEP THE SLAVES IN LINE AND AVOID DISSENT.

THE LINK YOU POSTED IS TOTAL RELIGIOUS MIND CONTROL. THE PERSON WHO WROTE THAT MATERIAL IS USING THE "LIE SANDWICH" TECHNIQUE WHERE THEY THROW IN SOME REAL INFORMATION. THIS PERSON USES REAL THINGS SUCH "ARCHONS" AND THE "KARMIC LORDS COUNCIL" BUT THE REST OF THE CONTENT IS PURE MIND CONTROL.

IT IS CHRISTIANITY WITH THEOSOPHY MIXED IN TO LOOK INFORMED AND CUTTING EDGE. IN ACTUALITY IT IS THE SAME ENSLAVING GARBAGE REPACKAGED.

WE ARE ALL INSIDE OF A HUGE, INCREDIBLY ADVANCED VIRTUAL REALITY. THIS UNIVERSE IS A SIMULATION. MOST OF "ANCIENT HISTORY" NEVER HAPPEN. IT IS AN "ANCESTRAL SIMULATION". GODS AND SAVIORS ARE LITERALLY MYTHS. THE BIBLE IS THE EQUIVALENT OF A COMIC BOOK. UNFORTUNATELY PEOPLE HAVE BASED THEIR EXISTENCE ON UPON FICTION.








Do you mean that I must assume that everything in history is fiction, but your "astral journeys" are real? Ahhhh, give me a break, man!

Have you astral travelled to other world? What is happening to the people of alpha Centauri?


If what you say is true, then we're fucked and there's nothing we can do about it. Do you really believe you're going to help people by telling them this? After death you're forced to reincarnate but there's nothing you can do about it, so - enjoy the rest of your life!

Uau! ALPHA CENTAURI! This is 4.37 light years from Earth! Are you sure the elite already dominate travel at the speed of light? Each time you go further, OP ... It's hard to believe.


LONG DISTANCE TRAVEL BY WARP DRIVE AND WORMHOLES/EINSTEIN ROSEN BRIDGES WAS PERFECTED YEARS AGO. THE TECHNOLOGY THE AVERAGE PERSON SEES TODAY IS A JOKE. THE NWO ARE USING TECHNOLOGY WELL OVER 50 YEARS AHEAD OF THE CRUMBS THE PUBLIC THINKS ABOUT.

PERHAPS YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO SIGNIFICANT RESEARCH AND FIND THAT THEY HAVE BEEN REVERSE ENGINEERING CRASHED UFO'S SINCE THE 1940'S. THEY HAVE A FULLY FUNCTION SPACE FORCE THAT IS BEYOND COMPREHENSION. GARY McKINNON UNCOVERED SOME THIS 20 YEARS AGO. ONCE AGAIN; THE SHADOW GOVERNMENT HAS TECH OVER WELL OVER50 YEARS AHEAD OF ANYTHING THE PUBLIC IS THINKING ABOUT.


ALIENS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH NWO SCIENTISTS FOR DECADES. NUMEROUS DEEP UNDERGROUND BASES EXIST ALL OVER THE USA AND CANADA. THEY HAVE VEHICLES AND WEAPONRY.

HERE IS A REAL EXACT QUOTE FROM FORMER CEO OF LOCKHEED SKUNKWORKS BEN RICH: “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity.

FEEL FREE TO ACTUALLY EDUCATE YOURSELF SUBSTANTIALLY MORE BEFORE ENGAGING IN CONVERSATION WITH SOMEONE LIKE MYSELF.

Cats are definitely special beings. This thing about sleep--that's me all the way. I'm most alive and energized and active while sleeping.

I have a whole other sleep life. Some of it intersects with this realm, much of it does not. It is a LIFE. I go to sleep and transition into more living. It's amazing.

I completely relate with cats need and ability to sleep constantly. I get it.
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OP don’t respond to him. My pole shift thread has the same type popping up every few months. Let him talk to himself and he will
eventually go away. Works every time. He’s probably paid to do what he does.

Do you mean that I must assume that everything in history is fiction, but your "astral journeys" are real? Ahhhh, give me a break, man!


I SAID THE BIBLE IS FICTION DUMB ASS.

A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF "ANCIENT HISTORY' IS ANCESTRAL SIMULATION. THE UNIVERSE IS FAKE. IT DID NOT EVOLVE. THERE WAS NO "BIG BANG". THE ANCESTRAL PROGRAM CREATES THE CURRENT ATTRIBUTES TO ALLOW THE ILLUSION OF ANCIENT HISTORY TO APPEAR.

YOU ARE CORRECT. THEY ACTUALLY DO PAY PEOPLE TO SMEAR CONSPIRACY BASED MATERIAL.

I HAD A FRIEND WHO WENT TO STANFORD AND HE HAD A JOB DURING GRAD SCHOOL IN WHICH HE WORKED IN A LARGE HI TECH CALL CENTER. HE TOLD ME EVERY PHONE CALL IN THE USA AND CANADA IS RECORDED. THEY HAVE SOFTWARE THE FINDS CERTAIN TERMS THAT THROW UP RED FLAGS FOR LATER ANALYSIS. UFO'S, NWO, 911 ARE SOME THE MANY TERMS THEY LATER EVALUATE.

ANOTHER PART OF THIS CALL CENTER HAD PEOPLE WHOSE SPECIFIC TASK WAS TO LURK ON DIFFERENT WEBSITES. WHEN COMING ACROSS CERTAIN SUBJECTS AND DISCUSSIONS THAT GO AGAINST ANYTHING WITHIN THE NWO CONTROL GRID AND ITS MIND CONTROL AGENDA, THAT THOSE TOPICS AND DISCUSSIONS ARE TO BE RIDICULED IN ATTEMPT TO KEEP THE ENSLAVED PUBLIC UNINFORMED AND ASLEEP.