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GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION

 
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I may, in fact, be mentally deficient. I'm willing to consider all possibilities. LOL
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One of the most intelligent Minds in history once said:

“The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.”
-Albert Einstein


Keep questioning and searching, Jennifer.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


They approve you going absolutely anywhere but to Jesus, Jennifer.

Jesus Christ is the Love of God for you

if you are willing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79654789


JESUS CHRIST IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER. YOU MIGHT AS WELL PRAY TO SPIDERMAN OR THE INCREDIBLE HULK.

ALL RELIGION IS MIND CONTROL. THE SELF DECLARED "GOD" IN THIS SIMULATED FAKE UNIVERSE IS THE SATANIC DEMIURGE.

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In your silence,

ask yourself

why are you fighting against Jesus Christ?

You will meet Him soon.

Promise.

We will all be there.

See you there.

hi
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JESUS CHRIST IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER.

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why do you WANT to believe that?

<<< See that date there?

See every date everywhere?

See your birthday?

Guess what every day of your life references?

That's right.

Jesus Christ.

But you think you know better.

Why do you think so much of yourself?

How great art thou?
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How many DAYS do you have left

before you go tell Jesus about Himself?
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...

Umm genius, it's called a caps lock key. Look into it.
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clappa
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I may, in fact, be mentally deficient. I'm willing to consider all possibilities. LOL
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One of the most intelligent Minds in history once said:

“The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.”
-Albert Einstein


Keep questioning and searching, Jennifer.

.
 Quoting: Zovalex


They approve you going absolutely anywhere but to Jesus, Jennifer.

Jesus Christ is the Love of God for you

if you are willing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79654789


JESUS CHRIST IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER. YOU MIGHT AS WELL PRAY TO SPIDERMAN OR THE INCREDIBLE HULK.

ALL RELIGION IS MIND CONTROL. THE SELF DECLARED "GOD" IN THIS SIMULATED FAKE UNIVERSE IS THE SATANIC DEMIURGE.

inquisitio
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Thanks for coming back OP. Ignore the Jesus freak. We can still learn a lot from your journeys in the astral.
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The “god” as depicted by Abrahamic religions is a LIE.

Your so-called “creator” that you worship is NOT your creator. He is the Warden of this Soul prison farm that HE hijacked and took control over. He is a “benevolent slave master” as well as a “malevolent benefactor”. He is pure Darkness masquerading as Light. He is Evil clothed in Love. Your Soul was tricked/trapped and otherwise kidnapped and forced into this living Hell. You are to the Archonic forces what cattle and poultry are to humans.... nothing more than food, except the Archonic food is your low-vibrational energies that emits from you while experiencing fear, depression, anxiety, anger and hate, guilt and remorse, suffering and pain, terror and panic, and other negative emotions.

When you die from your physical body, your memory of all you have learned and gained is simply wiped and erased, and your Soul is forcibly reincarnated back into the Soul prison system we reside in.

You are nothing but “food” to them. A “battery” to energize them.

Your “loving god” is a fiction.

There is indeed a genuine “Source” beyond the Demiurge god controlling this world, but we have been cut off from that Source.

But the Archonic forces do not want you to know this horrible truth, because when you realize the awful Truth, you start planning to no longer be a part of their world, and you assist to awaken others.

Nay, your “loving and merciful god” is an evil tyrant holding all of us prisoner just as humans imprison cattle, pigs, and poultry. We may be humane to the cattle, pigs, and poultry (benevolent slave masters), but we raise them to be slaughtered as food (malevolent benefactors). In like manner, the Demiurge and his Archonic forces are doing precisely the same with humans.

As above, so below.
As below, so above.

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You will soon be most terrified to find yourself standing before Jesus Christ.


I WAS RAISED A CHRISTIAN BY VERY GOOD, CARING PEOPLE.

AT AGE 12 I COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD THAT ALL RELIGION IS MIND CONTROL THAT CREATES SLAVES.

THE JESUS CHARACTER IS NICE AND HAS MANY GOOD MESSAGES BUT IS ULTIMATELY AS REAL AS HOMER SIMPSON OR BATMAN.

STOP WORSHIPPING FAKE GODS WHO ENSLAVE YOU. WEAK MINDS CLING TO RELIGION BECAUSE THEY FEAR TAKING ACTUAL CONTROL OF THEIR OWN FUTURE.

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if I wanted that I’d go to church instead
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I never go to church.

What does that have to do with anything?

Open your mind man. Don’t just swallow up what you’ve been told. I used to be like that too. But seek the truth and nothing but the truth. You’re letting fear of punishment control your beliefs.
 Quoting: CopyNinja87

I strictly DEMAND nothing but Truth from any and all.

Have you ever entertained the thought that maybe, just maybe, the bad guys wrote the Bible? Just some food for thought.
 Quoting: CopyNinja87

You really expect me to seriously entertain the thought that all these people are lying together in an evil conspiracy to construct a massive lie telling us to be good to our neighbor and to believe in the God that commands us not to lie? Seriously?

Have you ever entertained the thought that maybe, just maybe, The Bible really is the Word of God from God to YOU?

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I WAS RAISED A CHRISTIAN BY VERY GOOD, CARING PEOPLE.

SO WHAT?
AT AGE 12 I COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD THAT ALL RELIGION IS MIND CONTROL THAT CREATES SLAVES.
 Quoting: YOU ARE IN THE MATRIX

COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD. 12. UH HUH...

pick

THE JESUS CHARACTER IS NICE AND HAS MANY GOOD MESSAGES BUT IS ULTIMATELY AS REAL AS HOMER SIMPSON OR BATMAN.
 Quoting: YOU ARE IN THE MATRIX

INDEFENSIBLE IGNORANCE.

FREE WILL.

AS YOU WILL.

YOUR WILL WILL BE DONE.

YOU GET IT YOUR WAY.

NO GOD FOR YOU.

STOP WORSHIPPING FAKE GODS WHO ENSLAVE YOU. WEAK MINDS CLING TO RELIGION BECAUSE THEY FEAR TAKING ACTUAL CONTROL OF THEIR OWN FUTURE.

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NO.

I WILL PRAISE AND THANK JESUS CHRIST FOREVER.

.
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I WAS RAISED A CHRISTIAN BY VERY GOOD, CARING PEOPLE.
 Quoting: YOU ARE IN THE MATRIX

SO WHAT?
AT AGE 12 I COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD THAT ALL RELIGION IS MIND CONTROL THAT CREATES SLAVES.
 Quoting: YOU ARE IN THE MATRIX

COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD. 12. UH HUH...

pick

THE JESUS CHARACTER IS NICE AND HAS MANY GOOD MESSAGES BUT IS ULTIMATELY AS REAL AS HOMER SIMPSON OR BATMAN.
 Quoting: YOU ARE IN THE MATRIX

INDEFENSIBLE IGNORANCE.

FREE WILL.

AS YOU WILL.

YOUR WILL WILL BE DONE.

YOU GET IT YOUR WAY.

NO GOD FOR YOU.

STOP WORSHIPPING FAKE GODS WHO ENSLAVE YOU. WEAK MINDS CLING TO RELIGION BECAUSE THEY FEAR TAKING ACTUAL CONTROL OF THEIR OWN FUTURE.

zombies
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NO.

I WILL PRAISE AND THANK JESUS CHRIST FOREVER.

.
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I WAS RAISED A CHRISTIAN BY VERY GOOD, CARING PEOPLE.
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SO WHAT?

YOU AND TED BUNDY
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Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.




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The 70th Week

There is a remaining seven-year period to be fulfilled. This period is the most documented period in the entire Bible.
The Book of Revelation, Chapters 6 through 19, is essentially a detailing of that climactic period.

The interval between the 69th and 70th week continues, but it is increasingly apparent that it may soon be over.
The more one is familiar with the numerous climactic themes of “end-time” prophecy, the more it seems that Daniel’s 70th Week is on our horizon.

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Did you dream this?
 Quoting: The Deplorable Truth


I AM AN EXPERT AT ASTRAL TRAVEL AND HAVE SEEN IT AND HORRIFYING SIMILAR EXPERIENCES MANY HUNDREDS OF TIMES.

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NDE's paint a different picture then astro travelers

The plot thickens.........
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Did you dream this?
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I AM AN EXPERT AT ASTRAL TRAVEL AND HAVE SEEN IT AND HORRIFYING SIMILAR EXPERIENCES MANY HUNDREDS OF TIMES.

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NDE's paint a different picture then astro travelers

The plot thickens.........
 Quoting: Max Powers


I HAVE ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS.

THE NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE IS A 100% SCAM:

THE TARGETED HUMAN IS SHOWN BEAUTIFUL IMAGES AND INCREDIBLE LANDSCAPES.

INCREDIBLE LOVE IS FELT BY THE TARGETED HUMAN WHO IS BEING SET UP TO CREATE "ADVERTISING" WHICH WILL CON THE WORLDWIDE RELIGIOUS IDIOTS INTO ENTERING THE WHITE LIGHT TRAP.

THE HUMAN IS TOLD "THEY MUST GO BACK". tHE CANNOT YET ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. GUESS WHAT; THEY NEVER THEY GET TO ENTER BECAUSE IT IS ALL A SCAM.

THE "INCREDIBLE LOVE" IS ENERGY FROM THE HUMANS OWN HEART CHAKRA THAT GETS AMPLIFIED AND REFLECTED BACK ONTO THEM BY ADVANCED ARCHON TECHNOLOGY.

GOD IS FAKE. THE "ANGELS" ARE ACTUALLY SATANIC TRASH IN DISGUISE.

THE WHOLE N.D.E. IS A CRUEL MANIPULATION TO CONTROL THE WEAK MINDED RELIGIOUS IMBECILES WHO BUY INTO IT LIKE THEY ALWAYS DO. THESE SAME PEOPLE THINK ITS GREAT THEIR CHILDREN GOT MUTILATED OR KILLED IN WARS THAT ARE ACTUALLY STAGED BY THE SATANIC GLOBAL ELITE.

THEY FEEL IT WAS "GODS WILL". WHAT A JOKE. THE "GOD"OF THIS MATRIX IS THE SATANIC DEMIURGE AND IT IS EVIL.

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In some States when you die it is common to be added to the Democratic Voter Roles. This what causes the Demoncratic Hell and Obamonation that was forced on Grandpa's every where. Don't worry Orange Man, with luck and Prayers will fix this and drain the Swamp at the same time.
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In some States when you die it is common to be added to the Democratic Voter Roles. This what causes the Demoncratic Hell and Obamonation that was forced on Grandpa's every where. Don't worry Orange Man, with luck and Prayers will fix this and drain the Swamp at the same time.
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BOTH ORANGE MAN AND MOLESTO JOE ARE PUPPETS COMPLETELY CONTROLLED BY THE SATANIC GLOBAL ELITE.

ELECTIONS ARE STAGED. THE SO CALLED WINNER IS CHOSEN AT ELITE MEETINGS LIKE DAVOS AND BOHEMIAN GROVE.

POLITICS ARE MIND CONTROL JUST LIKE SPORTS, HOLLYWOOD AND RELIGION.

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Here's something to chew on, NPC, straight from your Abrahamic bible:

"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
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Oh wow, you got me, I never read every word countless times compared to your oh-so-brilliant once or twice...

Yes, God created you. Your heart continues beating in your chest exactly to that terminal number that He alone determines for you and has gifted you with. You can breathe in again thanks to Him. One day soon, the last breath He allows you will pass. You are Free to be Evil and to hate Him every single day He has given you.

My love for God, belief in God and Faith in God is real only because you are Freely allowed to hate Him just as much.

Thus, yes, He created and allows your evil.

Go ahead, blame God for your evil.

Your "god" is the Demiurge - a benevolent slavemaster, a malevolent benefactor that is a master of Darkness and pain but clothes himself in Light and Love.
 Quoting: Zovalex

False. Hear me. Repeat after me.

My God is Jesus Christ Yeshua HaMashiach YHWH the Holy One of Israel, the I AM, the One Almighty Creator God

who has openly declared Himself to all mankind

and you are without excuse.

He is indeed "god" of this world, I acknowledge it. But unlike you, I recognize he commands the energies of both Light and Dark, Good and Evil, using both polarities to serve his purposes.
 Quoting: Zovalex

False. Satan is God of this world and gives it to who he pleases. Jesus did not say he was wrong.

Jesus said His Kingdom is not of this world.

For someone who claims to know The Bible so well and so much better, I assure and continue to assure you, verily, verily, assuredly I say unto you, you don't.
Run along NPC. You have no audience here.
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Posturing arrogant condescension is all you have

because you do not have or serve Truth.

Jesus Christ is Truth.

How many days do you have left, hotshot, before you go meet Him face-to-face?
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But Jesus said to him, Follow Me

And blessed is he who is not offended because of Me.

Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

Assuredly I say to you, that in the regeneration, when the Son of Man sits on the throne of His glory, you who have followed Me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.

You search the Scriptures, for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of Me.
But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life.
I do not receive honor from men.
But I know you, that you do not have the love of God in you.


For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me; for he wrote about Me.

I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst.

For I have come down from heaven

Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life.

I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in Me, though he may die, he shall live.
And whoever lives and believes in Me shall never die. Do you believe this?


I have come as a light into the world, that whoever believes in Me should not abide in darkness.

Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me.

If you love Me, keep My commandments.

Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me.
I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.
If anyone does not abide in Me, he is cast out as a branch and is withered; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned.


These things I command you, that you love one another.
If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you.
If you were of the world, the world would love its own. Yet because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

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It seems the Bible is a giant psyop to trick the masses in a multitude of ways. Trick them into the light, worship the wrong deity, lead complacent lives of ignorance, influence our subconscious manifestation, and butter us up for the final slaughter. There’s actually not much truth in the Bible aside from love thy neighbor, right? The rest of it is praise for an egotistical demiurge and predictive programming for an end times loosh harvest. Scary.
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What a total crock of evil shit you are.
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In your silence,

ask yourself

why are you fighting against Jesus Christ?

You will meet Him soon.

Promise.

We will all be there.

See you there.

hi
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SEE YOU WHERE?

YOU ARE PROBABLY A VERY NICE PERSON. I GET NO PLEASURE IN DISAGREEMENT WITH YOU.

SADLY, YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO. THE "HEAVEN" YOU WAIT FOR DOES NOT EXIST.

AFTER PHYSICAL DEATH ALL HUMANS END UP IN THE SAME BRUTALLY CONTROLLED AFTERLIFE THAT IS CONTROLLED BY DEMONIC FORCES KNOWN AS ARCHONS.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD IS TO WAKE UP HUMANITY AND END THIS HORRIBLE CRUEL ENSLAVEMENT THAT AFFECTS US ALL.

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So I guess the only way we can save ourselves
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From what?
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SEE
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JESUS CHRIST.
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You know divinity is what you make it. I think what you want is an escape from your suffering. I think your searching for something which can’t be found. Albeit it does exist. Please don’t deny the beauty of humanity dear one. Human is what we do. You could have been a possum. Your memory is wiped clean but the akash remains within. NPC’s are simply younger souls. They are not as soulful and wise but they nonetheless have souls indeed. I do not deny that there is a satanic demiurge which is in power. I hate satan. I pray good flourish and the Jesus take us to heaven too, but I can’t help but acknowledge the fact that everything has its place. Heaven is not something you escape to. Darkness is not something you beat or win against. And hell is something we must punch through the bottom of. Indeed life and the dimensions can be cruel and unjust, but the pain and suffering of humanity is not without design. Be thankful for that. Take joy in all things. I agree we need to defeat the satanic forces and fight for the truth and against this matrix . I have learned a lot from you . But I hope you are aware we all receive the same celebration in the stadium before rebirth. If an immortal vessel is what you seek within the perfect kingdom along with the Father, then ask yourself if that will be enough then? Greed jealously and desire burn in those who do not seek the kingdom of heaven within.


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RELIGION HAS DONE ENORMOUS DAMAGE TO HUMANITY.
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SO WHAT?

MEN SUCK.

JESUS CHRIST IS TRUE.
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Zovalex,

What evil lies do you Judge Jesus Christ of?

Since you say you know The Bible so well, quote just one passage of Jesus Christ that substantiates your evil portrait of Him.
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You guys gonna keep circle-jerking like this

until you die?
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...


One of the most intelligent Minds in history once said:

“The more I learn, the more I realize how much I don't know.”
-Albert Einstein


Keep questioning and searching, Jennifer.

.
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They approve you going absolutely anywhere but to Jesus, Jennifer.

Jesus Christ is the Love of God for you

if you are willing.
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JESUS CHRIST IS A FICTIONAL CHARACTER. YOU MIGHT AS WELL PRAY TO SPIDERMAN OR THE INCREDIBLE HULK.

ALL RELIGION IS MIND CONTROL. THE SELF DECLARED "GOD" IN THIS SIMULATED FAKE UNIVERSE IS THE SATANIC DEMIURGE.

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Thanks for coming back OP. Ignore the Jesus freak. We can still learn a lot from your journeys in the astral.
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YEARS AGO AT THE BEGINNING OF MY AFTERLIFE EXPLORATION I BEGAN ASKING EVERY PERSON I MET IN THE AFTERLIFE "WHERE IS JESUS CHRIST". EVERY PERSON (AND MOST OF THEM TOLD ME THEY WERE FULLY DEDICATED CHRISTIANS) TOLD ME SADLY THAT CHRIST "NEVER EXISTED". THESE GOOD PEOPLE WERE EMOTIONALLY CRUSHED AT FINDING THIS OUT.

I DO NOT ENJOY RUINING YOUR FANTASIES AND ILLUSIONS. I WISH IT WAS DIFFERENT. UNFORTUNATELY IT IS THE TRUTH;

JESUS CHRIST NEVER EXISTED.

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Re: GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION
Testimony of the Evangelists by Simon Greenleaf (1783-1853)

Greenleaf, one of the principle founders of the Harvard Law School, originally set out to disprove the biblical testimony concerning the resurrection of Jesus Christ. He was certain that a careful examination of the internal witness of the Gospels would dispel all the myths at the heart of Christianity. But this legal scholar came to the conclusion that the witnesses were reliable, and that the resurrection did in fact happen.
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Greenleaf concludes with:


There are other internal marks of truth in the narratives of the evangelists, which, however, need here be only alluded to, as they have been treaded with great fullness and force by able writers, whose works are familiar to all. Among these may be mentioned the nakedness of the narratives; the absence of all parade by the writers about their own integrity, of all anxiety to be believed, or to impress others with a good opinion of themselves or their cause, of all marks of wonder, or of desire to excite astonishment at the greatness of the events they record, and of all appearance of design to exalt their Master. On the contrary, there is apparently the most perfect indifference on their part, whether they are believed or not; or rather, the evident consciousness that they are recording events well known to all, in their own country and times, and undoubtedly to be believed, like any other matter of public history, by readers in all other countries and ages. It is worthy, too, of especial observation, that thought the evangelists record unparalleled sufferings and cruel death of their beloved Lord, and this too, by hands and with the consenting voices of those on whom he had conferred the greatest benefits, and their own persecutions and dangers, yet they have bestowed no epithets of harshness or even of just censure on the authors of all this wickedness, but have everywhere left the plain and unencumbered narrative to speak for itself, and the reader to pronounce his own sentence of condemnation; like true witnesses, who have nothing to gain or to lose by the event of the cause, they state the facts, and leave them to their fate. Their simplicity and artlessness, also, should not pass unnoticed, in readily stating even those things most disparaging to their dullness of apprehension of this teachings, their strives for preeminence, their inclination to call fire from heaven upon their enemies, their desertion of their Lord in his hour of extreme peril; these and many other incidents tending directly to their own dishonor, are nevertheless set down with all the directness and sincerity of truth, as by men writing under the deepest sense of responsibility to God. Some of the more prominent instances of this class of proofs will be noticed hereafter, in their proper places, in the narratives themselves.

Lastly, the great character they have portrayed is perfect. It is the character of a sinless Being; of one supremely wise and supremely good. It exhibits no error, no sinister intention, no imprudence, no ignorance, no evil passion, no impatience; in a word, no fault; but all is perfect uprightness, innocence, wisdom, goodness and truth. The mind of man has never conceived the idea of such a character, even for his gods; nor has history or poetry shadowed it forth. The doctrines and precepts of Jesus are in strict accordance with the attributes of God, agreeably to the most exalted idea which we can form of them, either from reason or from revelation. They are strikingly adapted to the capacity of mankind, and yet are delivered with a simplicity and majesty wholly divine. He spake as never man spake. He spake with authority; yet addressed himself to the reason and the understanding of men; and he spake with wisdom, which men could neither gainsay nor resist. In his private life, he exhibits a character not merely of strict justice, but of flowing benignity. He is temperate, without austerity; his meekness and humility are signal; his patience is invincible; truth and sincerity illustrate his whole conduct; every one of his virtues is regulated by consummate prudence; and he both wins the love of his friends, and extorts the wonder and admiration of his enemies. He is represented in very variety of situation in life, from the height of worldly grandeur, amid the acclamations of an admiring multitude, to the deepest abyss of human degradation and woe, apparently deserted of God and man. Yet everywhere he is the same; displaying a character of unearthly perfection, symmetrical in all its proportions, and encircled with splendor more than human. Either the men of Galilee were men of superlative wisdom, and extensive knowledge and experience, and of deeper skill in the arts of deception, than any and all others, before or after them, or they have truly stated the astonishing things which they saw and heard."


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And YOU call HIM evil.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79654789


Firstly - and I may be wrong - I don't think anyone is calling the Jesus avatar "evil". It is specifically the god in the Old Testament who appears to be evil. Secondly, there are certainly truths in the Bible, such as Matthew 7:12 "So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." So basically the Golden Rule. However we don't need the Bible to tell us this because we know it instinctively. If we're interested in what Jesus has to say, he basically says to repent and stop doing evil, and love your fellow man. Once again, nothing wrong with that. What I do have a problem with is all the added dogma and baggage. But this is not even what we're discussing. We're discussing what happens after death, and the apparent trap, and how to overcome it. I've heard the argument that Jesus came to save us FROM the god of the Old Testament. I could even get behind that. But seeing as how the world just continues the way it does, day in and day out, with its unimaginable sufferings and injustices, it's a little hard to believe that anyone is coming to save us from it. If a loving God does exist, He/She will understand and have mercy. Your own Bible says "Mercy triumphs over judgment". There's really not much more you can say. If you come in a spirit of love, fine -- but I've found that most Christians are only too happy to judge others, and take delight in telling people they'll be burning in hell soon, etc. etc. etc. ad nauseam. It makes me sick. If there IS a God, you can rest assured that He/She is nothing like the horrible entity described in the Old Testament particularly. Peace and Love to you.





GLP