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GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION

 
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Just a thought outside the box here:

Would you deprive Brent Favre his fabulous quaterback career with all that success, loving fans, touchdowns, cheers, televised games with the Green Bay Packers to be a ghost?

Would you deprive Michaelangelo his great work, the Cestine Chapel ceiling that millions have become inspired by to have been a ghost?

Would you deprive a father's son or a mother's daughter to be only a ghost?

Would you deprive the holy man knowing and loving God to only be a ghost?

If there is a reincarnation, that means there is no death. And, no death is a good thing - whereas a ghost is a low energy snakeskin of a former personality that once was.

IMO

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Well said Jennifer. I’m glad you have discerning eyes. To break free from this matrix that is a basic requirement.
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Thank you for your kind words, that means a lot to me.
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Well said Jennifer. I’m glad you have discerning eyes. To break free from this matrix that is a basic requirement.
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Thank you for your kind words, that means a lot to me.
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hf
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OP, do you have anything to share about what awaits those that break out of the matrix?

What does it look like?

What do we become when we break out? Orbs of light? Astral bodies? What ever form we decide to project?

What do we do for all eternity? Astral travel? Spirit guides?
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Even if you manage to astrally slip out of the external confines of some archonic astral fence that surrounds Earth, you could still remain ignorant and trapped in samsara.

According to Dzogchen, when you attain the Light Body, you can send out Emanations to help sentient beings overcome samsara.
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I would look at all religion with high suspicion. What you say may be true, but it certainly doesn’t help our current situation of imprisonment by the demiurge. Following your train of thought, we are supposed to keep coming back to learn different life lessons, which once again paved the way for eternal enslavement. If anything, Buddhists represent only one way of escaping the matrix, and a very inefficient one at that. How many souls have achieved nirvana throughout history? It’s like telling somebody to walk 20 miles instead of drive to work everyday.
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Actually lower Yana Buddhism is like telling someone to walk 20 miles to work (and non-Buddhist vehicles would be like walking 2,000 miles).

Dzogchen would be your concord jet.

Anyway, the ‘having to come back to learn life lessons’ is more of an new-age thing, and maybe some ‘Hindu’ sects.

Buddhadharma is about removing ignorance, not ‘learning lessons’ per-sé.

I mean the two-accumulations (of merit & wisdom) are necessary, but it’s never said that it all has to be accomplished on Jambudvipa, as far as I know; it can happen in Buddhafields beyond samsara (i.e. not even ordinary deva realms; perhaps we could say that Buddhafields are like halfway between the Nirmanakaya and Sambhogakaya dimensions).
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OP, have you read or made any contact yet with the silver legion? They are the only positive group out there with exception of the protoi.
EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET to farm loosh and adrenochrome.

Read this if you want to know the truth of it all: Thread: My compilation of proof that we live in the evil matrix!!!

Dark bastard exposes the farm here: Thread: The FaRm.......
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Wow now we have Buddhist religitards
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Wow now we have Buddhist religitards
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How is it not any better than your “pole-shift & plasma-event-tardism”?

Don’t get me wrong, I believe ‘pole shifts’ could happen (an interesting take on this found in the following link):

[link to gnosticteachings.org (secure)]

And also that a plasma-event could happen (although a few predictions on when it supposedly should have happened, have failed)....

In fact the Buddhadharma says that ‘plasma-events’ always happen, but are called kalpa-ending conflagrations, in Abhidharma and so on.

At this point, I think I can say that I’d welcome one any day now....

Anyway, what makes you so sure of your said beliefs; yet write an entire spiritual doctrine off (an non-tirthika one no less) as “tardism”?

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Wow now we have Buddhist religitards
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How is it not any better than your “pole-shift & plasma-event-tardism”?

Don’t get me wrong, I believe ‘pole shifts’ could happen (an interesting take on this found in the following link):

[link to gnosticteachings.org (secure)]

And also that a plasma-event could happen (although a few predictions on when it supposedly should have happened, have failed)....

In fact the Buddhadharma says that ‘plasma-events’ always happen, but are called kalpa-ending conflagrations, in Abhidharma and so on.

At this point, I think I can say that I’d welcome one any day now....

Anyway, what makes you so sure of your said beliefs; yet write an entire spiritual doctrine off (an non-tirthika one no less) as “tardism”?
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Dude read the content and title of this thread we’re not looking to get converted buddy
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OP, do you have anything to share about what awaits those that break out of the matrix?

What does it look like?

What do we become when we break out? Orbs of light? Astral bodies? What ever form we decide to project?

What do we do for all eternity? Astral travel? Spirit guides?
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Looking af the low ratings of this thread, I fully support the mass extinction of mankind. Fuck these useless eaters. We are here trying to help them yet they do not want it. These ppl deserve the suffering they will get. I did my part and more than required unfortunately. Fuck mankind. I hope ayys invade this shithole matrix.
EARTH IS A PRISON/FARM PLANET to farm loosh and adrenochrome.

Read this if you want to know the truth of it all: Thread: My compilation of proof that we live in the evil matrix!!!

Dark bastard exposes the farm here: Thread: The FaRm.......
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Looking af the low ratings of this thread, I fully support the mass extinction of mankind. Fuck these useless eaters. We are here trying to help them yet they do not want it. These ppl deserve the suffering they will get. I did my part and more than required unfortunately. Fuck mankind. I hope ayys invade this shithole matrix.
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It’s true most people live by their mind and not their heart. They just want to be a willing slave and never question their reality. It’s a shame our potential has been reduced to this ignorant state we call modern life.
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Can you tell us more about the Annunaki? Do they visit humanity every 3000 or so years at each pole shift? So they help us rebuild society? Seems to make sense if you look at our history. There’s always a group of advanced beings rebuilding the world after huge cataclysms. I think they’re the Aryans or Polarians living above us in their own ice domes. Norbzworld on youtube talks about higher beings living on the same plane but at a higher frequency.

Platonic Year or Great Year is 36,000 years. That’s 3000 years for each astrological sign. Our next one is the Age of Aquarius.



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So where is the Creator that made the birds, the animals, the grass, the trees, the rivers, the mountains, the flowers, the beauty...?

Why is He allowing these archons to interfere upon people after death, entering the spirit realm again?
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So where is the Creator that made the birds, the animals, the grass, the trees, the rivers, the mountains, the flowers, the beauty...?

Why is He allowing these archons to interfere upon people after death, entering the spirit realm again?
 Quoting: Blessed Jael


I think you’re referring to Sophia, or Gaia, the female creative consciousness. She was hijacked by the Satanic Demiurge long ago. We are her children trapped in his matrix. As far as I understand that’s what is going on.
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So where is the Creator that made the birds, the animals, the grass, the trees, the rivers, the mountains, the flowers, the beauty...?

Why is He allowing these archons to interfere upon people after death, entering the spirit realm again?
 Quoting: Blessed Jael


I think you’re referring to Sophia, or Gaia, the female creative consciousness. She was hijacked by the Satanic Demiurge long ago. We are her children trapped in his matrix. As far as I understand that’s what is going on.
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Okay so you apparently have no interest in Buddhadharma (although Buddhadharma & Bön were Gnostic long before the first “Gnostics”), but what stream of Gnosticism would you say is the one most accurate to the reality of things?

Basilidian, Valentinian, Sethian, Samael Aun Weor, Miguel Serrano, etc.?
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So what the hell is the point of trying to live an honest and decent life only to get screwed over in the end? Don't go into the light, end up a ghost? Go into the light, get memory wiped, and start over? Those are the only real viable options? How bad can the ghost life be?
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So what the hell is the point of trying to live an honest and decent life only to get screwed over in the end? Don't go into the light, end up a ghost? Go into the light, get memory wiped, and start over? Those are the only real viable options? How bad can the ghost life be?
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Hm, becoming an mere ghost eternally doesn’t sound very appealing; although some would argue that it would beat the hell out of the sufferings of this physical dimension.

Some Gnostic or Occult branches talk about building Solar (subtle) Bodies that would replace the lunar (subtle) bodies that we have now. So there’s a hint.

In Buddha’s teachings, there’s a parallel to that as well (not surprising, considering that Buddhadharma/Bön in my view is the ‘prototype’ of all streams of Gnosticism & Esoteric Gnosis).

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How do you avoid reincarnation?
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How do you avoid reincarnation?
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Okies.... op u say ur an astral travel expert and do it all the time. Don’t we all! Most don’t remember. Iv been doing it consciously since u was born.

What doesn’t get me tho is u say astral travellers are only now just realising the truth of the astral. Well if ur an expert then u must of always know.

Anyway....in the astral, what happens there is manifested here. Did u not know that? U not heard of the laws of the astral. The astral police/dimensional police? Out of bound areas? There has always been limits to what u can do in the astral for good reasons. First of is because of the dimensional wars. Second coz like I said above, what happens there happens here next.

And I’m aware of the councillors. That place u mention isn’t in the astral tho. It’s the inbetween. Dimensions flow properly wen there’s balance. They are in the unbalanced realm. This place they will be offered situations to raise themselves. Can be called limbo too.

As a psychic I get ppl come to me asking how there loved ones are that have literally passed over. Not all of the time but some come through quiet soon coz they passed over into the sources light. If they haven’t passed over then I cannot pick them up easily. They are in separate place, the mirror reflection of this reality. They tend to be left goals to achieve to gain right balance to move on.

Iv known ppl I care about to pass over and not go into the light as they were rejected. That had low vibration and bad karma. They also passed with some unfinished stuff. Iv seen them pass over and in the works of filling there goals.
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Looking af the low ratings of this thread, I fully support the mass extinction of mankind. Fuck these useless eaters. We are here trying to help them yet they do not want it. These ppl deserve the suffering they will get. I did my part and more than required unfortunately. Fuck mankind. I hope ayys invade this shithole matrix.
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I understand because I get angry about this kind of thing, also. But anger will burn you up inside if you let it. I try to have compassion for all human beings (even though I am happy to be away from most of them). Try to look at people as dumb cattle. My problem is that I feel sorry for people and that probably skews my perspective of reality. Neither extreme is good (hating people vs. feeling so sorry for people that you absolve them of responsibility for their actions).

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So where is the Creator that made the birds, the animals, the grass, the trees, the rivers, the mountains, the flowers, the beauty...?

Why is He allowing these archons to interfere upon people after death, entering the spirit realm again?
 Quoting: Blessed Jael


I think you’re referring to Sophia, or Gaia, the female creative consciousness. She was hijacked by the Satanic Demiurge long ago. We are her children trapped in his matrix. As far as I understand that’s what is going on.
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Have you read any of the First Apocalypse of James? It's a Gnostic text. It purports to be a conversation between Jesus and James wherein Jesus gives James the words to say to escape the "toll collectors" who would cast him into another body (reincarnation). As luck would have it, though, important words are sadly missing! (Thanks a lot guys!!)

Here's an excerpt. The dots are missing areas of text. As you'll see, the dots seem to be pretty important text - which is MISSING, FOR GOD'S SAKES...! Lol (Sorry for long cut & paste, I promise not to do that again, I just though it might be of interest to the conversation.)

Now when James heard these things, he wiped away the tears in his eyes and very bitter [...] which is [...]. The Lord said to him, "James, behold, I shall reveal to you your redemption. When you are seized, and you undergo these sufferings, a multitude will arm themselves against you that <they> may seize you. And in particular three of them will seize you - they who sit (there) as toll collectors. Not only do they demand toll, but they also take away souls by theft. When you come into their power, one of them who is their guard will say to you, 'Who are you or where are you from?' You are to say to him, 'I am a son, and I am from the Father.' He will say to you, 'What sort of son are you, and to what father do you belong?' You are to say to him, 'I am from the Pre-existent Father, and a son in the Pre-existent One.' When he says to you, [...], you are to say to him [...] in the [...] that I might [...]."

'[...] of alien things?' You are to say to him, 'They are not entirely alien, but they are from Achamoth, who is the female. And these she produced as she brought down the race from the Pre-existent One. So then they are not alien, but they are ours. They are indeed ours because she who is mistress of them is from the Pre-existent One. At the same time they are alien because the Pre-existent One did not have intercourse with her, when she produced them.' When he also says to you, 'Where will you go?', you are to say to him, 'To the place from which I have come, there shall I return.' And if you say these things, you will escape their attacks.

"But when you come to these three detainers who take away souls by theft in that place [...] these. You [...] a vessel [...] much more than [...] of the one whom you [...] for [...] her root. You too will be sober [...]. But I shall call upon the imperishable knowledge, which is Sophia who is in the Father (and) who is the mother of Achamoth. Achamoth had no father nor male consort, but she is female from a female. She produced you without a male, since she was alone (and) in ignorance as to what lives through her mother because she thought that she alone existed. But I shall cry out to her mother. And then they will fall into confusion (and) will blame their root and the race of their mother. But you will go up to what is yours [...] you will [...] the Pre-existent One."
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Did the archons make a move on OP?

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@ Jennifer

I didn’t read the gnostic texts. But I did read about the origins of the demiurge and how he relates to Sophia. The legend of Yaldabaoth, the one with many names. I just found the texts too long and boring. I do know that Christianity came from the Gnostics in its earliest form, and the kings of that time sent troops to execute all their towns. So they must have known something about the truth.
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If there is a reincarnation, that means there is no death. And, no death is a good thing - whereas a ghost is a low energy snakeskin of a former personality that once was.

IMO

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It's clear from your post that either:

A. You didn't read the thread.

OR...

B. You have no reading comprehension.




Pick one.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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Dude read the content and title of this thread we’re not looking to get converted buddy
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What others don't realize is that many of us have already studied Christianity, Bhuddism, Islam, Jud*ism, Taoism, New Age and assorted metaphysical beliefs.

Whereas, they have studied ONE belief system and have clung to its tenets, falsely assuming the rest of us have not already considered (and subsequently rejected) those schools of thought.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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@ Jennifer

I didn’t read the gnostic texts. But I did read about the origins of the demiurge and how he relates to Sophia. The legend of Yaldabaoth, the one with many names. I just found the texts too long and boring. I do know that Christianity came from the Gnostics in its earliest form, and the kings of that time sent troops to execute all their towns. So they must have known something about the truth.
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I hear you! I've only stumbled through a few of them myself... I do find the history of the Cathars (aka the Albigensians) to be fascinating. They were also wiped out in a bloody crusade.

Some consider Yaldabaoth to be Jehovah of the Old Testament.
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So where is the Creator that made the birds, the animals, the grass, the trees, the rivers, the mountains, the flowers, the beauty...?

Why is He allowing these archons to interfere upon people after death, entering the spirit realm again?
 Quoting: Blessed Jael


Very good question!

I have considered and mused on this question for a very long time.

I can only speak on behalf of myself and my own thoughts. Others here may feel differently and I welcome their input.

Personally, when I observe the beauty of nature, I can only assume this planet was HIJACKED by the Demiurge and his Archons.

I surmise that hijacking involved cutting us off from Source....

The Demiurge is a powerful being. Although it is a parasitic low-energy being that survives on the pain and suffering of its slaves, it has learned to utilize the powers of the Light as well as the Dark. It can command the cosmic powers of Good and Evil in combination, using both polarities at its will.

Therefore, I view the Demiurge as a benevolent slave master, a malevolent benefactor that uses Light and Goodness for the purposes of Darkness and Evil.

I do not know why Source has seemingly abandoned us.

Perhaps the Demiurge is far more powerful than we realize, capable of fending off Source itself?

Your question is reasonable, and I am seeking the answer to that also.
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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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So what the hell is the point of trying to live an honest and decent life only to get screwed over in the end? Don't go into the light, end up a ghost? Go into the light, get memory wiped, and start over? Those are the only real viable options? How bad can the ghost life be?
 Quoting: JohnnyMullet


LOL! My thoughts exactly! I'd rather be a ghost in the etheric realms, retaining my memory and knowledge I have learned, searching for a way out of the prison, rather than to be "factory reset" and recycled back into this shit hole Soul prison farm.
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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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How do you avoid reincarnation?
 Quoting: Atlantis Rising


That's the million dollar question we're seeking the answer to!

Welcome, friend.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL





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