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GRANDPA DREAMED OF HEAVENLY REST. HE GOT DEMONIC HELL AND FORCED REINCARNATION

 
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Thank you for the answers OP.

So is the astral full of depression, or are there pockets of hope there? What are your most memorable experiences?
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THERE HAVE BEEN SO MANY EXPERIENCES. SADLY, ALMOST ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN NEGATIVE AND SOME HORRIFYING. LET ME BE VERY CLEAR: THIS IS UNFORTUNATELY NOT FICTION. THESE ARE REAL EXPERIENCES.

I HAVE HAD SOME GLIMPSES OF FAMOUS PEOPLE. I BRIEFLY MET JAZZ TRUMPET PLAYER DIZZIE GILLESPIE. I WANDERED INTO A BAR AND THE FORMER LEAD SINGER FROM THE GROUP "SUBLIME" WAS PLAYING SONGS BY HIMSELF ONSTAGE. WHEN EXPLORING I WALKED BY A CONCERT HALL AND PEOPLE WERE BUYING TICKETS FOR WHAT THEY SAID WAS TO BE A FUTURE PERFORMANCE BY PRINCE.

ON ANOTHER OCCASION I SAW A LARGE BILLBOARD PROMOTING A COMEDY PERFORMANCE BY A GUY NAMED "DUKE". THERE WAS A DESCRIPTION OF HIS ACT AND STRANGELY ENOUGH THIS MAN WAS DOING AN ACT EXACTLY LIKE ANDREW DICE CLAY. THIS GUY EVEN DRESSED LIKE HIM AND USED ALL THE DIRTY LANGUAGE. IT SEEMED AS IF HE WANTED PEOPLE TO THINK IT WAS HIM.


I HAVE HAD NUMEROUS EXPERIENCES IN THE BUILDING CALLED "THE PROCESSING CENTER". THIS PLACE IS REAL AND ALL NEWLY DECEASED ARE REQUIRED TO GO THERE AND REGISTER.

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But they can’t kill you if you’re already dead?

And the astral body can’t feel physical pain, so what if you just tell them to piss off if they tell you that you have to “register”?
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So you're saying this happens to everyone? Or did your grandparents do something wrong? Basically, how do we get out?
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THIS HAPPENS TO EVERYONE. BELIEVER OR SKEPTIC IT DOES NOT MATTER.

GREAT CARING PEOPLE AS WELL AS EVIL TRASH ALL GET SENT TO THE ASTRAL AFTERLIFE. EVENTUALLY THEY ARE ALL FORCED TO REINCARNATE AGAIN. THIS IS THE ENSLAVEMENT OF HUMANITY.


THIS ENTIRE THREAD HAS BEEN ABOUT DOING THINGS TO TRANSFORM YOURSELF AND THE WORLD AROUND YOU. PLEASE READ THE ENTIRE THREAD.

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But they can’t kill you if you’re already dead?

And the astral body can’t feel physical pain, so what if you just tell them to piss off if they tell you that you have to “register”?
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THE ASTRAL BODY FEELS PAIN. I HAVE EXPERIENCED IT PERSONALLY MANY TIMES AND HAVE SEEN IT INFLICTED ON MANY DECEASED HUMANS ALSO.

THEY HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF DECEASED HUMANS WHO WORK AS SECURITY/LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR THE ARCHON HIERACHY. THEY BRUTALLY ASSAULT AND ARREST THOSE WHO QUESTION THE SYSTEM.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD IS TO DEFEAT THAT EVIL SYSTEM AND CREATE REAL FREEDOM.

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ABOUT 4 YEARS AGO I HAD ONE OF MY FIRST OF MANY EXPERIENCES IN "THE PROCESSING CENTER". SOME OF THESE EXPERIENCES INCLUDED:

WATCHING AN OUTDOOR PRESENTATION IN WHICH A WOMAN SOLDIER TALKED TO A LARGE CROWD ABOUT HER DEATH IN THE "BATTLE IN ALPHA CENTAURI". THIS IS THE "SPACE FORCE" WE ARE NOW HEARING ABOUT.

ENTERING AND RIDING ON AN OUTDOOR TRAIN LOCATED ABOUT 200 FEET FROM THE BUILDING. THE TRAIN WENT THROUGH A LARGE SUBURBAN AREA AND PASSED MANY HOUSES AND BUILDINGS. A MAN ON THE TRAIN WORKING AS A CONDUCTOR SOMEHOW KNEW I WAS A LIVING HUMAN TRAVELER. HE DETACHED THE TRAIN CAR WHICH I WAS IN WITH NUMEROUS OTHER PEOPLE FROM THE REST OF THE TRAIN.

FLOATING MYSELF OVER THE HUGE WALL THAT SURROUNDS THE GROUNDS OF THE FACILITY. THEN EXPLORING THE HUGE MODERN CITY THE PROCESSING CENTER IS IN KNOWN AS "JEAN DE LAC".

ALMOST BEING CAPTURED IN THE PROCESSING CENTER BY A MAN WHO HAD WHAT IS SIMILAR TO A HUGE BUTTERFLY NET. IT WAS GLOWING BRIGHT WHITE. THIS IS ADVANCED TECH USED TO CAPTURE ASTRAL BODIES OF UNWELCOME TRAVELERS.

A STRANGE DEVICE WAS THROWN AT ME ON THE GROUNDS OUTSIDE. IT EMITTED A WEIRD WHITE SMOKE THAT IS SIMILAR TO THE TECH USED TO CAPTURE ASTRAL BODIES. I WAS ABLE TO FLOAT UP ABOUT 20 FEET AND AVOID CAPTURE.

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Jesus Christ is Lord. Yeshua is God of the universe
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SORRY FRIEND. JESUS NEVER EXISTED. I WISH IT WAS DIFFERENT. BUT THAT IS THE SAD TRUTH.

THE SELF DECLARED "GOD" OF THIS SIMULATED UNIVERSE IS THE "SATANIC DEMIURGE" ALSO KNOWN AS SATAN OR THE DEVIL. IT IS THE PHYSICAL AVATAR OF THE SENTIENT MATRIX A.I.

THE SATANIC DEMIURGE HAS BEEN LONG KNOWN BY THE SECRET SOCITIES AND IS COMPLETELY WORSHIPPED BY THE SATANIC GLOBAL ELITE.

THIS "GLOBAL ELITE" INCLUDES WORLD LEADERS, BILLIONAIRES AND MANY HOLLYWOOD AND MUSIC STARS.

UNFORTUNATELY THIS "HORROR MOVIE" IS THE CURRENT REALITY OF THIS SIMULATED UNIVERSE.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD IS TO TRANSFORM THE SELF AND ULTIMATELY THE WORLD AROUND US ALL.

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OP, why do you have a cat in your pic? I was thinking about adopting a kitten. Are they spiritual protectors against negativity?
 Quoting: CopyNinja87


CATS ARE 100% GOOD SOULS WHO ARE COMPLETELY AGAINST EVIL.

CATS HAVE INCREDIBLY POWERFUL ENERGY FIELDS AND WILL FORCE A DEMON, SHADOW PERSON, ALIEN, NEGATIVE SPIRIT ETC. OUT OF A HOUSE OR BUILDING.

THEY ARE ALSO THE MASTERS OF ASTRAL PROJECTION.

THE ANCIENT EGYPTIANS KNEW ALL OF THIS AND WORSHIPPED CATS AND SAID "CATS CAN WALK BETWEEN WORLDS".

CATS ARE OFTEN SEEN LOOKING UP AT OR HISSING AT WHAT SEEMS TO BE EMPTY SPACE. THIS IS THE CAT SCANNING AN ENTITIES ENERGY FIELD AND DETERMINING IF THE SPIRIT IS A THREAT TO YOU.


I ABSOLUTELY RECOMMEND ADOPTING A KITTEN/CAT. THE CAT WILL PROTECT YOU AND YOUR HOUSEHOLD AND THIS WILL EVEN CONTINUE AFTER THEIR PHYSICAL DEATH.

I HAVE MET MANY GHOST CATS AND THEY ARE A POSITIVE FORCE THAT CONTINUES TO PROTECT HUMANS.

THIS IS NO JOKE: CATS ARE YOUR BEST SPIRITUAL PROTECTION.

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I don’t mind animals, I just don’t want the extra responsibility of cleaning up after them and so on.

It may be worth having a cat considering the above.

What is your view on dogs? Are they neutral in terms of their vibratory signature so to speak? Like they’re okay to have around, but wouldn’t offer any ‘vibratory’ protection?
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Just remembered something I read some years ago:



[link to gnosticteachings.org (secure)]

”In ancient times, before we started the cycle of human existences, it is obvious that we were elementals. Now, you can explain to yourselves why we are related with this or that plant or with this or that stone or animal.

“Now, you can see how in Oaxaca, these millenarian traditions have not been lost. There is no doubt that many natives are completely protected by those elementals with whom they are related since birth. Therefore, the Nahuals are the ideal elementals when we truly love them.

“An extraordinary elemental is, undoubtedly, the black cat.

“I am going to tell you the following experiment that I performed with this elemental. In our home, we had a little black cat. I intended to gain his love, and it is clear that I achieved it.

“One night, I wanted to perform a transcendental, metaphysical experiment. While lying down on my bed, I placed at my side the innocent animal. I relaxed my body perfectly, then I profoundly concentrated upon the cited feline, begging him to take me out of my physical body. I bluntly confess that this concentration was long and very deep; it lasted for about an hour. I became slightly asleep during this intensive concentration. Yet, indeed, I had to pass through an extraordinary surprise. That creature seemed to increase its size, then suddenly it became a giant of enormous proportions who was laid down at the edge of my bed. I touched him with my right hand, and it seemed to me that he was made out of steel. He was irradiating electricity; his face was as black as the night. There is no doubt that his body was of the same color. Nonetheless, he had left his animal form and instead assumed a human figure, with the exception of his face, which, even while being gigantic, continued to be that of a cat.

“This was something abrupt that I did not expect. I was terribly overwhelmed and a little frightened; I conjured him with the Conjuration of the Seven of the Sage Solomon. The result was that such an enchantment ceased. Thereafter, next to me was the innocent creature in his cat form again.

“I was very preoccupied the next day while walking through the streets of the city. I had thought that fear had been eliminated from my own nature, but behold how such a Nahual had now given me a tremendous scare.

“Nevertheless, in no way was I resigned to lose the battle. Thus, I gave courage to myself, yearningly waiting for the coming night in order to repeat the experiment. So again, I placed the small creature on the right side of my bed just as I had the previous night. I relaxed my physical body, not leaving a single muscle tense. Thereafter, I intensely concentrated upon the feline, and within the profundity of my heart intended not to allow myself to become frightened once again. A soldier who has been warned about his opponent does not die in the war. Obviously, I was already warned about what was going to happen. Therefore, fear had already been frankly eliminated from my interior.

“After about an hour elapsed, while very deeply concentrated, the exact same phenomenon of the previous night was repeated. Obviously, the elemental of this cat came out of his body in order to assume a gigantic and fearsome human figure.

“Lying down on my bed, I stared at him. He was frightening in a great manner, terrifying. Indeed, his body was so enormous that it did not fit on my bed. Therefore, his legs and feet were hanging over my humble bed. What overwhelmed me the most was that this elemental, when abandoning his body, could materialize physically, in order to make himself visible and tangible for our senses. I touched him with my physical hands and he seemed to be made of iron. I saw him with my physical eyes and his face was huge.

“However, this time I was not afraid. I intended to exercise complete control over myself, thus it is clear that I achieved it. Then, addressing him with a gentle and firm voice, I demanded that he take me out of my physical body by saying, “Little pussycat, get up from this bed.” When I said this, that giant stood on his feet. Thereafter, I continued commanding him by saying, “Now take me out of this physical body; take me in my astral body.” When saying these last words, this extraordinary giant answered me with the following words, “Give me your hands.” Clearly, I lifted my hands, a moment that the elemental took advantage of in order to pull me and take me out of my physical body.

“Such a strange being was endowed with a terrifying force, but he irradiated love, and it is clear that he wanted to serve me. Thus, this is how the elementals of Nature are.”
 Quoting: Samael Aun Weor


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Just remembered something I read some years ago:



[link to gnosticteachings.org (secure)]

”In ancient times, before we started the cycle of human existences, it is obvious that we were elementals. Now, you can explain to yourselves why we are related with this or that plant or with this or that stone or animal.

“Now, you can see how in Oaxaca, these millenarian traditions have not been lost. There is no doubt that many natives are completely protected by those elementals with whom they are related since birth. Therefore, the Nahuals are the ideal elementals when we truly love them.

“An extraordinary elemental is, undoubtedly, the black cat.

“I am going to tell you the following experiment that I performed with this elemental. In our home, we had a little black cat. I intended to gain his love, and it is clear that I achieved it.

“One night, I wanted to perform a transcendental, metaphysical experiment. While lying down on my bed, I placed at my side the innocent animal. I relaxed my body perfectly, then I profoundly concentrated upon the cited feline, begging him to take me out of my physical body. I bluntly confess that this concentration was long and very deep; it lasted for about an hour. I became slightly asleep during this intensive concentration. Yet, indeed, I had to pass through an extraordinary surprise. That creature seemed to increase its size, then suddenly it became a giant of enormous proportions who was laid down at the edge of my bed. I touched him with my right hand, and it seemed to me that he was made out of steel. He was irradiating electricity; his face was as black as the night. There is no doubt that his body was of the same color. Nonetheless, he had left his animal form and instead assumed a human figure, with the exception of his face, which, even while being gigantic, continued to be that of a cat.

“This was something abrupt that I did not expect. I was terribly overwhelmed and a little frightened; I conjured him with the Conjuration of the Seven of the Sage Solomon. The result was that such an enchantment ceased. Thereafter, next to me was the innocent creature in his cat form again.

“I was very preoccupied the next day while walking through the streets of the city. I had thought that fear had been eliminated from my own nature, but behold how such a Nahual had now given me a tremendous scare.

“Nevertheless, in no way was I resigned to lose the battle. Thus, I gave courage to myself, yearningly waiting for the coming night in order to repeat the experiment. So again, I placed the small creature on the right side of my bed just as I had the previous night. I relaxed my physical body, not leaving a single muscle tense. Thereafter, I intensely concentrated upon the feline, and within the profundity of my heart intended not to allow myself to become frightened once again. A soldier who has been warned about his opponent does not die in the war. Obviously, I was already warned about what was going to happen. Therefore, fear had already been frankly eliminated from my interior.

“After about an hour elapsed, while very deeply concentrated, the exact same phenomenon of the previous night was repeated. Obviously, the elemental of this cat came out of his body in order to assume a gigantic and fearsome human figure.

“Lying down on my bed, I stared at him. He was frightening in a great manner, terrifying. Indeed, his body was so enormous that it did not fit on my bed. Therefore, his legs and feet were hanging over my humble bed. What overwhelmed me the most was that this elemental, when abandoning his body, could materialize physically, in order to make himself visible and tangible for our senses. I touched him with my physical hands and he seemed to be made of iron. I saw him with my physical eyes and his face was huge.

“However, this time I was not afraid. I intended to exercise complete control over myself, thus it is clear that I achieved it. Then, addressing him with a gentle and firm voice, I demanded that he take me out of my physical body by saying, “Little pussycat, get up from this bed.” When I said this, that giant stood on his feet. Thereafter, I continued commanding him by saying, “Now take me out of this physical body; take me in my astral body.” When saying these last words, this extraordinary giant answered me with the following words, “Give me your hands.” Clearly, I lifted my hands, a moment that the elemental took advantage of in order to pull me and take me out of my physical body.

“Such a strange being was endowed with a terrifying force, but he irradiated love, and it is clear that he wanted to serve me. Thus, this is how the elementals of Nature are.”


THANK YOU FOR POSTING THIS INCREDIBLE KNOWLEDGE.

THIS WAS WRITTEN BY THE LEGENDARY MASTER OF ASTRAL TRAVEL AND LUCID DREAMING Samael Aun Weor. HIS BOOK "DREAM YOGA" IS A MASTERPIECE ON THESE SUBJECTS.

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Yeah I’ve little doubt that he was adept in astral projection.

Samael Aun Weor’s talk about Aberamentho (“Jesus”) existing as a great Master of the White Lodge, is it odds with your saying that Jesus didn’t exist though, OP.

Not that I’m invested in any Jesus narratives. I mean for all I know he did and does exist, and is a Bodhisattva; but even if he does exist, I personally get more out of teachings from both living Buddhist & Bön Teachers and texts, than I do from reading ‘the Bible’.

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Remind me of the books of Josef Rulof I read 20 years ago. Scared me a lot! Did you read that OP
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Okay...

From what I’m gathering, we die in this physical world (we’ll call it Prison 1), only to be transferred into a different physical world (complete with housing, transportation, commerce, bars and restaurants, etc.) that we will refer to as Prison 2.

Prison 2 has a very harsh and restrictive environment in which people are required to attend “Karma debt classes” wherein they are heavily coerced into agreeing to reincarnate back into Prison 1 because they need to repay their bad karma and learn spiritual lessons to evolve and improve.

Rinse and repeat, Prison 1 to Prison 2, back to 1, back to 2, ad infinitum.

This scenario clearly suggests that we have a CHOICE whether to reincarnate or not to reincarnate from Prison 2 back to Prison 1, ending the cycle.

However, to choose contrary to the reincarnation Mind-control loosh slave farm in Prison 1 results in incarceration, beatings, and being ostracized from society within Prison 2.

But within Prison 2 you at least still have everything you’ve learned here in Prison 1, and you’re an intelligent, thinking adult with a lot of life experience, discernment, insight, awareness and understanding, versus having your memory wiped clean and being recycled into infancy with zero understanding or control over yourself back in Prison 1.

Seems to me it’s better to choose against reincarnation and stay in Prison 2.

Additionally, there is also a small opportunity to escape from Prison 2 and exist as a “ghost” in a dimension alongside this Prison 1 physical reality, but that would be Prison 3.

Am I to understand there IS NO ESCAPE from any of this??

Is our only hope to simply repeatedly recycle into either Prison 1, Prison 2 (or Prison 3) for thousands of years, waiting for the ultimate culmination and final destruction of this Demiurge-controlled existence?

OP, are you telling us there is simply....

...NO POSSIBILITY OF ESCAPE?

There are 3 well known historical entities who claim to have escaped and ascended above and beyond these Prisons:

* Siddhartha Gautama (the first Bhuddha)

* Hermès Trismegistus (founder of Hermeticism)

* Jesus the Christ (the first Gnostic)


........your thoughts?

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It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
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“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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Zovalex.

There are several sources talking about how to exit the matrix. I do not know if this is hopium or actual possibility. I'm leaning on possibility.

The links to wespenrevideos.com and wespenre.com have alot about this. In summary he say that we can exit the matrix, like OP pointed out in some response "find a hole" in the matrix which consists of several parts of a bigger "confinement" controlled by ultimately "the red queen" wich is the source of A.I. (from Wes Penre).

Here is the kicker. Even though there seem to be no escape I do have faith in one thing. They could never cut us off entirely from source, if we lack connection then there would be no loosh and they would starve into oblivion, nothingness.

So there will always be hope. ALWAYS.
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You are a fucking IDIOT. dumbass

Plain and simple.

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MY GRADUATE DEGREES AND MENSA MEMBERSHIP SAY OTHERWISE.

FEEL FREE TO REMAIN AN UNEDUCATED MATRIX SLAVE.

PLEASE REMEMBER THIS CONVERSATION AS THE ARCHONS PREP YOU FOR REINSERTION TO SLAVERY.

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Zovalex.

There are several sources talking about how to exit the matrix. I do not know if this is hopium or actual possibility. I'm leaning on possibility.

The links to wespenrevideos.com and wespenre.com have alot about this. In summary he say that we can exit the matrix, like OP pointed out in some response "find a hole" in the matrix which consists of several parts of a bigger "confinement" controlled by ultimately "the red queen" wich is the source of A.I. (from Wes Penre).

 Quoting: Endless Speck


I’ve spent a good deal of time on his site. It’s a MASSIVE volume of work, so I’ve only scratched the surface. I’d be interested to see what content he has in this specific question.


Here is the kicker. Even though there seem to be no escape I do have faith in one thing. They could never cut us off entirely from source, if we lack connection then there would be no loosh and they would starve into oblivion, nothingness.

So there will always be hope. ALWAYS.
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That’s an intriguing point I had not considered.

The Archonic beings are parasitic entities that feed off the low-vibrational energy of SOULED beings.

Can a SOUL continue to exist independent of Source?

You’re suggesting it cannot, and therefore the Archons need us to maintain the silver cord to Source.

Whereas, OP maintains the Archons are trying to sever his silver cord.

Hmmmm......

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It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
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“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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Zovalex.

There are several sources talking about how to exit the matrix. I do not know if this is hopium or actual possibility. I'm leaning on possibility.

The links to wespenrevideos.com and wespenre.com have alot about this. In summary he say that we can exit the matrix, like OP pointed out in some response "find a hole" in the matrix which consists of several parts of a bigger "confinement" controlled by ultimately "the red queen" wich is the source of A.I. (from Wes Penre).

Here is the kicker. Even though there seem to be no escape I do have faith in one thing. They could never cut us off entirely from source, if we lack connection then there would be no loosh and they would starve into oblivion, nothingness.

So there will always be hope. ALWAYS.
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I am a FIRM believer in this. As long as there is this continuing injustice, and cancer (the prison matrix), then there is an imbalance. It cannot, it MUST NOT, continue forever. That goes against everything inside of me that believes in an ultimate good. What is that glimmer of hope inside, that belief that good will prevail? To me, that is the divine spark within each of us, that CANNOT be extinguished! And I guess it is up to us to figure out how to use that for the cause of the good, to overcome this horrific evil. I believe it CAN and WILL be done.
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Okay...

From what I’m gathering, we die in this physical world (we’ll call it Prison 1), only to be transferred into a different physical world (complete with housing, transportation, commerce, bars and restaurants, etc., that we will refer to as Prison 2).

Prison 2 has a very harsh and restrictive environment in which people are required to attend “Karma debt classes” wherein they are heavily coerced into agreeing to reincarnate back into Prison 1 because they need to repay their bad karma and learn spiritual lessons to evolve and improve.

Rinse and repeat, Prison 1 to Prison 2, back to 1, back to 2, ad infinitum.

This scenario clearly suggests that we have a CHOICE whether to reincarnate or not to reincarnate from Prison 2 back to Prison 1, ending the cycle.

However, to choose contrary to the reincarnation Mind-control loosh slave farm in Prison 1 results in incarceration, beatings, and being ostracized from society within Prison 2.

But within Prison 2 you at least still have everything you’ve learned here in Prison 1, and you’re an intelligent, thinking adult with a lot of life experience, discernment, insight, awareness and understanding, versus having your memory wiped clean and being recycled into infancy with zero understanding or control over yourself back in Prison 1.

Seems to me it’s better to choose against reincarnation and stay in Prison 2.

Additionally, there is also a small opportunity to escape from Prison 2 and exist as a “ghost” in a dimension alongside this Prison 1 physical reality, but that would be Prison 3.

Am I to understand there IS NO ESCAPE from any of this??

Is our only hope to simply repeatedly recycle into either Prison 1, Prison 2 (or Prison 3) for thousands of years, waiting for the ultimate culmination and final destruction of this Demiurge-controlled existence?

OP, are you telling us there is simply....

...NO POSSIBILITY OF ESCAPE?

There are 3 well known historical entities who claim to have escaped and ascended above and beyond these Prisons:

* Siddhartha Gautama (the first Bhuddha)

* Hermès Trismegistus (founder of Hermeticism)

* Jesus the Christ (the first Gnostic)


........your thoughts?

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I'm not OP but, for what it's worth, I wanted to throw this thought out there that I had about Jesus, and Yaldabaoth (Demiurge / Old Testament god).

You've heard of "house rules" in a casino, described as follows:

The parameters by which the game is played, especially those that are unique to a specific facility or table; the binding rules observed in a particular establishment or table.

We live on earth, and perhaps earth is actually ruled by Yaldabaoth/Yahweh Jehovah, the god as described in the Old Testament. He is the one who made all these crazy rules requiring blood sacrifices for "sin". Sounds crazy, yes. But, think about it from this angle -- if it's his house, it's his rules. If we are in his domain he can make up whatever crazy rules he wants to and because we're trapped in his system, we're subjected to those rules and have to play by them. So, the theory goes, maybe the point of Jesus is that he came to save us from this. He paid the final 'blood sacrifice' to free us from the Old Testament god's rules. This is not coming out as eloquently as I would like, but it's just some food for thought. I'm not committed to any of this, but these are the types of things I think about.
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Zovalex and Jennifer X,

You’re asking important questions.

Out of your list of three who are said to have mastered the matrix/samsara, you can also add Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche.

The Buddha Shakyamuni is a Dzogchen Master like the Bönpo Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche; although as far as anyone can tell, he did not teach it openly during his Twelve Deeds (although maybe he did to some disciples secretly).

In any case, Tonpa Garab Dorje, the unveiler of Buddhist Dzogchen in this epoch (Tonpa Shenrab Miwoche taught Dzogchen earlier via Yungdrung Bön, but there were even Buddha’s before him), I believe was a emanation of the Buddha Shakyamuni (the “myth” surrounding Garab Dorje has similarities to both ‘Jesus’ and Shiva it seems) according to the Nyingma school.

Gnosticism just teaches in code what Buddhadharma and Bön get at directly:

If you want to ‘escape’ the matrix/samsara, then achieve Rainbow Body or Light Body, or at least attain liberation in the Bardo during the death process.

This would be better than wandering as an ghost in limbo until the kalpa-ending conflagration.

The archons may have symbolism related to inner psychological implications; and, as external beings, we could say that they‘re the Gnostic version of the Eight Classes of beings, and you can receive methods for controlling, repelling, and liberating them via Wrathful means.

The demiurge would be a symbol of ignorance, and if there is some individual being who embodies the demiurge, well I guess it would be the current most powerful being of the Eight Classes at any given moment. It was, and perhaps still is, it seems, Papiyas Mara or Papiyan Mara, who is said to live in the highest sub-realm or loka of the desire-realm or kama-loka. Just a guess, as maybe there is an hell-realm being or hungry-ghost realm being or something from one of the six-gates who is currently more powerful (and would therefore be “the demiurge”).

I’ve heard some Buddhists say that the old testament god and allah are pretas or hungry ghosts. I think others have said that they’re asuras, or devas at best, like the trickster Mara.

If all this resonates with you, then it may be worth exploring further. If not, well then good luck with your search for truth.

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Again why did the original source of all allow this to happen? No one anywhere has that actual answer. That is the real question. Things are not what they seem.... to anyone.
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I have pondered this as well. I have read some Gnostic texts and the idea there seems to be that the source is so far removed from his various 'emanations' that maybe he is unaware? Then again, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense either....
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If you are speaking within the Gnostic context, I suppose what you are refering to is the Demiurge, and in this case I don't think "unaware" is the adequate term but rather "unconcerned".

However you forget Jesus Christ has come to earth, amongst mankind - as the "Son of Man" - for a reason.

Focusing on a Demiurge might have made sense at the time of the Gnostics but not anymore perhaps.
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There are 3 well known historical entities who claim to have escaped and ascended above and beyond these Prisons:

* Siddhartha Gautama (the first Bhuddha)

* Hermès Trismegistus (founder of Hermeticism)

* Jesus the Christ (the first Gnostic)


........your thoughts?

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Jesus Christ was not a Gnostic - never mind the first one.

You fail to realize He came here with a totally new message, although he came in a time when Gnosticism still existed.

I don't think either Christ claimed at any time any "escape" of one sort or another.
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Sorry for these questions but i must ask: Is the anomaly/nobody psyop being used as another messiah complex to manufacture their antichrist or is it a good thing?
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THE ANOMALY/NOBODY ETC. ARE ALL "ROLE PLAYING". THE PEOPLE WRITING THESE HAVE LIKELY NEVER ASTRAL TRAVELED AND DO NOT REALLY KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON.

THAT BEING SAID, IT DOES GET PEOPLE THINKING, USING THEIR IMAGINATION AND VISUALIZING IMAGERY. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT IN A WORLD WERE PEOPLE ARE MIND CONTROLLED BY TELEVISION.

THE CONCEPT OF A NEO OR SUPERHUMAN WHO CAN OVERCOME THIS SIMULATION IS A GREAT THING AS LONG AS YOU STRIVE TO BE THAT PERSON. WAITING FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO PROVIDE YOU "SALVATION" HAS BEEN THE DOWNFALL OF HUMANITY.

THE GOAL IS TO TRANSFORM YOURSELF AND THEN THE WORLD AROUND YOU. IF THIS TO HAPPEN THEN ALL HUMANS MUST BECOME THE "NOBODY" OR THE "NEO".

I HAVE DESCRIBED MANY THINGS TO BE USED TO MOVE TOWARDS THIS GOAL: MEDITATION. VISUALIZATION. LIFESTYLE CHANGES (STOP SMOKING AND MEAT CONSUMPTION). AVOIDING FLUORIDATED WATER. AVOIDING MOBILE PHONE RADIATION. A REGULAR PRACTICE OF QI GONG. SATURATING THE MIND BY REGULARLY WATCHING AND READING ARTICLES ON ASTRAL PROJECTION AND LUCID DREAMING. TRAINING YOURSELF IN "TELEKINESIS" DURING THE OUT OF BODY STATE.

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Does masturbation or sex drain you of vital fluids and make you weaker? If so how can you fully stop it? I've heard that demons and succubi will force you to drain yourself for loosh.

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But they can’t kill you if you’re already dead?

And the astral body can’t feel physical pain, so what if you just tell them to piss off if they tell you that you have to “register”?
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THE ASTRAL BODY FEELS PAIN. I HAVE EXPERIENCED IT PERSONALLY MANY TIMES AND HAVE SEEN IT INFLICTED ON MANY DECEASED HUMANS ALSO.

THEY HAVE A HUGE AMOUNT OF DECEASED HUMANS WHO WORK AS SECURITY/LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR THE ARCHON HIERACHY. THEY BRUTALLY ASSAULT AND ARREST THOSE WHO QUESTION THE SYSTEM.

THE PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD IS TO DEFEAT THAT EVIL SYSTEM AND CREATE REAL FREEDOM.

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The ayys were right about humanity, mankind is shit and they are doing it to themselfs.
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There are 3 well known historical entities who claim to have escaped and ascended above and beyond these Prisons:

* Siddhartha Gautama (the first Bhuddha)

* Hermès Trismegistus (founder of Hermeticism)

* Jesus the Christ (the first Gnostic)


........your thoughts?

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 Quoting: Zovalex

Jesus Christ was not a Gnostic - never mind the first one.

You fail to realize He came here with a totally new message, although he came in a time when Gnosticism still existed.

I don't think either Christ claimed at any time any "escape" of one sort or another.
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Other than Love, what then was Christ's new message?
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The theory that this is a soul prison/silo where we are here with the fallen angels for whatever reason does make a ton of sense, especially if you read the new testament slowly, many times, while praying for the Holy Spirit to indwell you and open your mind to understand it. It may take multiple attempts over many years.

It is a lost art, but I do believe Holiness and sanctification are the key tickets OUT of this matrix prison. I do believe that because the adversary dresses up like an angel of light according to scripture, you may very well be correct about archons making up BS and false scenarios for their own parasitic benefit. This also makes a ton of sense.

I have heard that the "holes" which are supposedly patched up are not holes at all. What if it is a system where angels come and hand select or specifically "snatch" people who have given their lives to Jesus and lived lives of holiness. What if God himself is hand selecting his own people and that is what you call a "hole" in the prison system.

In my opinion, holy living and repentance are the best fighting chances we have to get out of this mess. Basically for me it means confessing my sins and sincerely apologizing for them to God while doing my best to never repeat those mistakes. smoking, swearing, anger are the demons I have left..... better than alcohol, partying, stealing, lying, meddling added on which I dealt with prior in life.

I have also considered the dimension/world/realm theories. What if we move around worlds based on our compatibility with them?

I guess for me, it is impossible to know. I refuse to astral travel or attempt to leave myself in unconventional ways via drugs etc. I do believe that even IF we are going to be recycled and thrown back here, at least in living a holy life and accepting Jesus as God we have a chance. His character in the bible does indicate that he would be a protective and good king. If we are monitored by a "big boss" whether he is good or evil, I would imagine it still would not be wise to do certain things for our own sakes.

Again, this is my own speculation. I'm not sure either. God bless and good luck everyone.
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Again why did the original source of all allow this to happen? No one anywhere has that actual answer. That is the real question. Things are not what they seem.... to anyone.
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I have pondered this as well. I have read some Gnostic texts and the idea there seems to be that the source is so far removed from his various 'emanations' that maybe he is unaware? Then again, that doesn't make a whole lot of sense either....
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If you are speaking within the Gnostic context, I suppose what you are refering to is the Demiurge, and in this case I don't think "unaware" is the adequate term but rather "unconcerned".

However you forget Jesus Christ has come to earth, amongst mankind - as the "Son of Man" - for a reason.

Focusing on a Demiurge might have made sense at the time of the Gnostics but not anymore perhaps.
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Yes I believe Jesus called out the demiurge as Satan/Saturn which rules this reality and is the blood thirsty god of the old testament. Demons hate and fear his name for a reason. They fear Gnosticism which is why they killed Christians and gnostic Cathars until the Vatican subverted Christianity for its own means. Jesus brought back god energies or Christ consciousness. These are much higher density energies which demons hate.
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There are 3 well known historical entities who claim to have escaped and ascended above and beyond these Prisons:

* Siddhartha Gautama (the first Bhuddha)

* Hermès Trismegistus (founder of Hermeticism)

* Jesus the Christ (the first Gnostic)


........your thoughts?

.
 Quoting: Zovalex

Jesus Christ was not a Gnostic - never mind the first one.

You fail to realize He came here with a totally new message, although he came in a time when Gnosticism still existed.

I don't think either Christ claimed at any time any "escape" of one sort or another.
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Incorrect.

But it doesn’t matter.

This thread isn’t about Jesus’ teachings, nor is it about the principles of Gnosticism.

It’s about escaping this Soul prison farm and the reincarnation cycle.

Can we agree to disagree and stick to the primary point of this thread, please?

Thank you.
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There are 3 well known historical entities who claim to have escaped and ascended above and beyond these Prisons:

* Siddhartha Gautama (the first Bhuddha)

* Hermès Trismegistus (founder of Hermeticism)

* Jesus the Christ (the first Gnostic)


........your thoughts?

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Jesus Christ was not a Gnostic - never mind the first one.

You fail to realize He came here with a totally new message, although he came in a time when Gnosticism still existed.

I don't think either Christ claimed at any time any "escape" of one sort or another.
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I believe escaping this hell is the easy way out and does not really help anyone but yourself. Jesus came to transform this satanic matrix but ended up crucified since man rejected him. The coming antichrist will try to undo his work. Christianity may not be gnostic but it is an offshoot and they are like cousins. I have personally experienced demons harrassing me but when I invoked the name of the Lord, they all disappeared and I felt at pure peace. Other abductees have also said the same for demons and ayys. Reality is stranger than fiction
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Other than Love, what then was Christ's new message?
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Please don’t.

That’s going to open a Pandora’s box for all the bibletards to derail the thread.

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“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

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It is a lost art, but I do believe Holiness and sanctification are the key tickets OUT of this matrix prison.

.......

In my opinion, holy living and repentance are the best fighting chances we have to get out of this mess. Basically for me it means confessing my sins and sincerely apologizing for them to God while doing my best to never repeat those mistakes. smoking, swearing, anger are the demons I have left..... better than alcohol, partying, stealing, lying, meddling added on which I dealt with prior in life.

........

Again, this is my own speculation. I'm not sure either. God bless and good luck everyone.
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I always appreciate information from sincere people, I myself also do believe it is important to live in a decent manner and treat people with love - this does NOT mean being a doormat. I really do think it matters in the 'grand scheme of things.' I also believe it is EXTREMELY important to conquer guilt. Guilt feelings could cause a person to feel that they deserved to be forced into reincarnating.
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The message of Christ was fairly simple: Truth, forgiveness, loving what is good and hating what is evil (God hates also according to him), repentance, piety, humility, contrition, peace (defined as a world that would be safe for children to run around with no door locks, pollution, extortion, rape, pedo stuff, porn, assault, theft, jealousy, the list goes on forever...). God is also fair and has to be a God of justice. For example, someone who loves to murder people for fun because they get a high off of it would not be allowed to live freely in a "paradise world" for obvious reasons..... So yes, God is a God of love, but certain violations of "natural law" aka common sense force his hand.

This is my opinion, I have no idea if I am right. Thanks





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