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the Civil War.. they claim that the Trumptsers tried to start a war.... and the military is still in DC.. has it started?

 
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Many have talked about it, but noboy has discribed what the Civil War would look like. Any suggestions?

Back in the 1800's, with the Civil War between the North
and the South, it was pretty easy to see where the line
was drawn.
This time however, the line is blured. There is no North
or South, or even a Mason Dixie Line to mark the spot. We
have those who believe what the Dems have been spreading and
the Mass Media who are willing to be their puppets.
How to we defend what our Fathers fought so hard for?
How do we work to make sure that the Brown Shirts of the
Dems, better known as the BLM and Antifa do not hunt us
down like the movie the Purge they talk so much about?
Please, if anyone has an idea.. please share.
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Trump cultists versus people of color and gays. Meanwhile middle of the road Democrats and Lincoln Project Republicans sit back and stay out of the fray.
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Lots and lots of women will be raped and killed. The little thing nobody talks about during civil wars. Good thing the feminists voted in old Joe. The silly color haired ones will be first.
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Long and bloody.
Like all the civil wars in the history of the planet.
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As I have said:
Round tables.

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What happens if the BLM and Antifa decide that they are
going to start going out into the residential areas and
causing damage? If they do defund the police, can the
neighborhoods start banding together to protect each other?
if so.. will the Dems start to go after the Neighborhoods
and declare them Terrorist groups?
 Quoting: Elfsong


The neighborhoods will be on their own to do what they must. The scum can't get too far out of the city though. 1 maybe 2 layers of suburbs before they're spread too thin and wiped out.
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Many have talked about it, but noboy has discribed what the Civil War would look like. Any suggestions?

Back in the 1800's, with the Civil War between the North
and the South, it was pretty easy to see where the line
was drawn.
This time however, the line is blured. There is no North
or South, or even a Mason Dixie Line to mark the spot. We
have those who believe what the Dems have been spreading and
the Mass Media who are willing to be their puppets.
How to we defend what our Fathers fought so hard for?
How do we work to make sure that the Brown Shirts of the
Dems, better known as the BLM and Antifa do not hunt us
down like the movie the Purge they talk so much about?
Please, if anyone has an idea.. please share.
:penguin warrior:
 Quoting: Elfsong


It will be a series of localized slaughters. The racial part and mask motivation of the killings will quickly transfrom into class conflict.

In the early phases, all media will likely be targeted because they are globalist controlled and hostile to ALL groups in the US.

After significant degrading of the state ability to maintain infrastructure and services to their "essentials" they will abandon efforts to regain control and lobby for nuclear strikes. Then the real fighting begins.
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Many have talked about it, but noboy has discribed what the Civil War would look like. Any suggestions?

Back in the 1800's, with the Civil War between the North
and the South, it was pretty easy to see where the line
was drawn.
This time however, the line is blured. There is no North
or South, or even a Mason Dixie Line to mark the spot. We
have those who believe what the Dems have been spreading and
the Mass Media who are willing to be their puppets.
How to we defend what our Fathers fought so hard for?
How do we work to make sure that the Brown Shirts of the
Dems, better known as the BLM and Antifa do not hunt us
down like the movie the Purge they talk so much about?
Please, if anyone has an idea.. please share.
penguin warrior
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It will be a series of localized slaughters. The racial part and mask motivation of the killings will quickly transfrom into class conflict.

In the early phases, all media will likely be targeted because they are globalist controlled and hostile to ALL groups in the US.

After significant degrading of the state ability to maintain infrastructure and services to their "essentials" they will abandon efforts to regain control and lobby for nuclear strikes. Then the real fighting begins.
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Why do I have a funny feeling that you are close to the truth. After all, Trump did just send a couple of B52 Bombers to the Middle East. And an Infraction of Iran just lobbied a cruise missile towards the UA. What's to stop them from aiming for the US next? Of course, it will be the blessings of the Dems. They will use it as an excuse stating: "See, if you had let the Transaction go through smoothly (and we had sent another pallet of money to Iran) This would have never happened."
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Probably like the Berlin Wall.
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Q: noboy discribed what the Civil War would look like.

Any suggetions?

A: a wall
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About 2 guys stomping around with a rebel flag and ar15 that they don’t know how to fire, wife beater tshirts dirty of course in their trailer park
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This is a better thread - won’t be civil war but will be Balkanization of USA
Thread: What’s Brewing is not a 2nd Civil war but the Balkanization of the USA
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Q: nobody described what the Civil War would look like.

Any suggestions?

A: a wall
 Quoting: President Elect RiskyRob


Okay... A Wall.
But where?
Around certain cities? The Elites think that if you fit
in their group, then you are privileged. Sounds a little
like the Hunger Games.
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Civil Wars are an export of the EU since about 1600AD.
Square wheels and leaky boats might be the only solution to the exported version. Not sure if the rest of the world would complain too much if NATO imploded at full force.
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Forget civil war.Your enemy will be the police,feds,states,counties,and cities.They are well armed and well organized.I live in a small California town,the cops have a tank.
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Forget civil war.Your enemy will be the police,feds,states,counties,and cities.They are well armed and well organized.I live in a small California town,the cops have a tank.
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You sound like you live in Placerville..
and I would not be surprised. Although, there
are a lot of the police who are fed up and leaving
CA. Sacramento has seen a dip in force of about 12 %
this year.
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So, if all the tax paying businesses leave the Dem run
cities, and go out to the Rural Areas.
Will the only people living in the cities, like the
ones living on the streets in San Francisco and Los
Angeles, be the Elites New Armies?

ie: you want your monthly does of drugs/food/money, you
will go to these certain areas and have a 'Peaceful Protest."
Then we will ride in like a Knight in Shining Armor and
rescue the businesses. Telling them that if they had not
moved to the Rural Areas, we would have been able to protect
them easier. Even though we have Defunded the Police and
put in our own Military in place.

And until the Rural Neighborhoods stand up and say no,
we will be back in the Feudual Times of the Middle Ages.
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Does anyone else think that BLM and Antifa will have anything to do with this Civil War?
Will they be the ones to start it?

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About 2 guys stomping around with a rebel flag and ar15 that they don’t know how to fire, wife beater tshirts dirty of course in their trailer park
 Quoting: Blue Stealing


Now.. that is a Racial Profiling..
there are many more who you would never even notice.

Please do not put yourself in that category of Racial
Profiling us.. you do not know us.
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Asymmetric warfare. On both sides.

No one wins.
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Asymmetric warfare. On both sides.

No one wins.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78572689


With CNN 'Gently' breaking it to their viewers that
Trump might remain in office..
How soon do you think that they are going to start
screaming and going out of their way to start the
Civil War? Even though they are on the losing side?

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10-30 million blm/antifa/socialists/communists MOSTLY UNARMED AND WHO HAVE BEEN PROTECTED BY LOCAL AND FEDERAL GOVT until now vs.

90-150,000,000 heavily armed Patriots, including law enforcement, military, and trained operators combined with a population of gun owners who will die defending their families and neighbors.


There's your combat theater OP. You tell me what will happen! This aint 1700 or 1800 where people still had civility. This would be a bloodbath and last less than a week.
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Pray to God that it never comes to be. But, prepare in case it does!
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Recent events have prompted more than one reader to tell me my dystopian novel Our War (Orbit, August 2019), about a second American civil war, is quickly becoming nonfiction. A 2018 Rasmussen poll found that nearly a third of Americans believed a civil war was likely to happen in the United States in the next five years. While I personally believe civil strife (defined as 25+ deaths per year) is far more likely than civil war (defined as 1,000+ combatant deaths per year), the scenario depicted in Our War, which is precipitated by the impeachment of a president who refuses to step down, is certainly plausible.

In this novel, just as in reality, American politics has become so polarized and tribalized that it gained conditions that have precipitated coups and civil wars in other countries: entrenched polarization, distrust of public institutions, violence achieving legitimacy as a way of solving problems, lack of political leadership, and divisive press coverage.

The war’s first catalyst is the president’s impeachment by the House. As in reality, right-wing commentators, militias, and even politicians warn of civil war if the Congress were to remove him. Meanwhile, thousands of people camp at the National Mall in an “Occupy the Mall” protest demanding the president resign, though the country is evenly split on whether he should be removed, and one-third unequivocally support him. After the Senate convicts the president, he refuses to leave office, triggering a Constitutional crisis. Snipers fire into the crowds at the Mall, resulting in a massacre aired on live television and a nationwide panic.

Experts have estimated that as many as 60,000 armed right-wing militia members are operating in the United States. They stage a national armed protest that snowballs into a revolution. In their view, they are fulfilling the intent of the Founding Fathers who said if the government became broken, the citizenry had a right to overthrow and replace it. While their initial goal is to protect the president against a perceived soft coup by the Deep State, eventually they aim for a Constitutional Convention that will completely rewrite the American system.

Even with swelling recruitment in the first days of the civil war, they don’t have the numbers or resources to control the entire country, but they do have enough to roll into a small town, make changes to its government, and keep going to the next. The Three Percenters militia is to an extent based on this concept, that only a small percentage of Americans is necessary to successfully overthrow the government, inspired by a belief that only three percent of Americans fought and won the American Revolution.

The government, meanwhile, dithers in response to this rapid, diffuse threat to national security. While there are some 650,000 police in the United States, many would be sympathetic or even actively join the militia side, and the majority of the rest are in cities, where the militias are indeed stopped from going further. As for the powerful U.S. military, they would find it very difficult to respond. A recent Military Times survey found that nearly four out of five active-duty service members see the military as being more politically polarized. One out of three service members is registered Republican, with the officer corps tending to be more conservative, and one out of five is registered Democrat, with the rank and file tending to be more liberal. Add to this the fact that though impeached, the president remains the commander in chief of the nation’s armed forces.

The military faces a tough choice. They could remove the president with a coup, attempt to restore order by force and risk open warfare against Americans, or safeguard life and vital infrastructure while the president and Congress, which has relocated to New York, begin talks to achieve a political solution. They decide on the latter, leaving the war’s factions to fight it out among themselves.



Civil war ensues. Eventually, the battle lines would form not between states but largely between rural (sparse population density and predominantly conservative) and urban (high population density and predominantly liberal). For example, Indianapolis, where Our War takes place a year after the war started, is a deep “blue” city in a sea of “red.” In the early days of civil strife, gunmen in ski masks attempted to cordon off sections of the city, but failed in the face of massive crowds taking to the streets demanding unity and peace. After a bomb goes off in Mile Square, followed by days of house to house fighting between police and gunmen (including rogue police officers), the city government finally secures the city only to find it surrounded by right-wing militias who regard it as the grand prize. This is very similar to Sarajevo’s experience in the 1990s.

During the siege, various organizations inside Indianapolis form their own militias, some out of simple self defense, others to achieve their own political goals as the Left becomes similarly armed and increasingly radicalized. The police department becomes the government army operated by a centrist coalition, while Leftist and other civilian militias defend their turf. While the presidential side has better training and weaponry, the Congressional side has greater numbers. As the war goes on, refugees, failing infrastructure, shortages, and even atrocities and child soldiers become common.

The executive branch and Congress meet for peace talks in Ottawa, but the president holds out, hoping for successes on the battlefield that will result in more concessions. For the presidential side, the stakes are far more than whether the president stays in office or gains immunity from prosecution if he leaves. He and his backers are aiming for a Constitutional Convention that will rewrite the Constitution, with demands including zero restrictions on gun ownership, a national ID card, elimination of the income tax, a balanced budget requirement, English as the national language, and more. The Congressional side, led by centrists, mainly wants to remove the president and resume the same system as before the war, resulting in internal conflicts with the Left, which has its own demands, such as publicly funded elections, elimination of billionaires, healthcare as a right, and more. Meanwhile, reeling from the economic shock of America tottering on the brink of collapse, the rest of the world suffers its own wave of populist movements and wars. Various countries send aid to the United States, while some supply arms to one or even both sides of the conflict.

Our War poses the above as a possible scenario for a second American civil war, resulting from entrenched polarization and gridlock as the kindling, a Constitutional crisis as the spark, and a small but well-funded and coordinated militia movement attempting to overthrow the government.

This polarization, entrenched by competing media, results in Americans with common problems having entirely different narratives about why those problems exist and how to solve them, even different sets of facts. Meanwhile, gridlock has made government ineffective and destroyed trust in public institutions; the American political system, designed to promote unity, means one party cannot get much done without either the White House along with a Congressional super-majority, or the parties being civil and compromising.

I’d like to say the solution is to simply listen more to the “other side,” or some such platitude we often hear as the answer to these problems, but the truth is I believe there is simply too much money and power invested in the polarization for it to stop without more systemic change. Just as it attempts to be nonpartisan, Our War does no preaching, being a story designed to entertain while at the same time, as a dystopian novel, provide a warning. It is up to the reader to reflect on the themes and discuss solutions on their own. What I can say is I naturally hope a civil war never occurs in America, as in many civil wars, everybody fights, and nobody wins. Enough to say Our War is speculative fiction, however much it’s starting to resemble reality; let’s hope it stays that way.
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It can't be along racial lines as we have some very fine black patriots that will defend the constitution and the republic along us and we have some very sorry lowlife white antifa libs on the other side.
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Again......"Ideals are peaceful. The world is violent!"

When faced with the truth, you have two choices. Accept it or fight against it! That will be the X-factor, not race!
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Tipping point is when soccer moms get terrorized enough to arm up.

They'll plow through protesters like mowing the grass
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Umm, I’m a soccer mom and I’ve been armed up for 15 years. I see your point, though. When ALL the suburban, private school moms see the threat enough to change their mindset...it’s undeniable.
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Civil war is code for white genocide

This will explain everything and what to start watching for and what it means. It is a 6 part series you need to read them all. It’s brutal. Our days are very numbered. Sorry

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All covid guidelines rules out any possible civil war with medical martial law timing out any group-able times for civil war like most suggest already.
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All covid guidelines rules out any possible civil war with medical martial law timing out any group-able times for civil war like most suggest already.
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Winner Winner Chicken Dinner

Y'all be to sick to fight.
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Many have talked about it, but noboy has discribed what the Civil War would look like. Any suggestions?

Back in the 1800's, with the Civil War between the North
and the South, it was pretty easy to see where the line
was drawn.
This time however, the line is blured. There is no North
or South, or even a Mason Dixie Line to mark the spot. We
have those who believe what the Dems have been spreading and
the Mass Media who are willing to be their puppets.
How to we defend what our Fathers fought so hard for?
How do we work to make sure that the Brown Shirts of the
Dems, better known as the BLM and Antifa do not hunt us
down like the movie the Purge they talk so much about?
Please, if anyone has an idea.. please share.
:penguin warrior:
 Quoting: Elfsong


The power vacuum would give rise to a bunch of different feudal factions.





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