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The proof of vaccine is the mark of the beast.

 
Anglo Elder  (OP)

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Pope Francis says the vaccine must be for everyone, not just the wealthy.

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Some questions for you:

What if they decide to do the other way around and mark only those NOT vaccinated?

What if its not done, like no tattoo or anything, just a central data linked to your SSN? Like SSN XXXX didn't take the vaccine.

What if they don't forbid you to buy or sell because of that, but restrict your right to go free?

What if you're believing the wrong god?
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Re: The proof of vaccine is the mark of the beast.
Pope Francis says the vaccine must be for everyone, not just the wealthy.

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He has also been going around the world for years now demanding global sunday rest laws. To "heal" the planet and humanity.

It all comes down to worship.
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Some questions for you:

What if they decide to do the other way around and mark only those NOT vaccinated?

What if its not done, like no tattoo or anything, just a central data linked to your SSN? Like SSN XXXX didn't take the vaccine.

What if they don't forbid you to buy or sell because of that, but restrict your right to go free?

What if you're believing the wrong god?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain


I worship the God of the Bible, Jehovah as translated into English, and his son Jesus Christ of Nazareth as translated into English.

The mark will not be forced on anyone.

The scripture says, they will CAUSE people to take the mark.

Economic, social, political, and religious coercion to cause you to take it.

I don't see your scenario playing out.
What are the facts?
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Anglo Elder  (OP)

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Re: The proof of vaccine is the mark of the beast.
Pope Francis says the vaccine must be for everyone, not just the wealthy.

[link to www.americamagazine.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Anglo Elder


He has also been going around the world for years now demanding global sunday rest laws. To "heal" the planet and humanity.

It all comes down to worship.
 Quoting: CluedIn


Your right as rain.

Couldn't agree more.

I find it interesting the authors of the KJV, in their letter to the readers correctly identified the Catholic papacy as what it really is.

They leave that letter to the readers out of all new printings.
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Re: The proof of vaccine is the mark of the beast.
Some questions for you:

What if they decide to do the other way around and mark only those NOT vaccinated?

What if its not done, like no tattoo or anything, just a central data linked to your SSN? Like SSN XXXX didn't take the vaccine.

What if they don't forbid you to buy or sell because of that, but restrict your right to go free?

What if you're believing the wrong god?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain


I worship the God of the Bible, Jehovah as translated into English, and his son Jesus Christ of Nazareth as translated into English.

The mark will not be forced on anyone.

The scripture says, they will CAUSE people to take the mark.

Economic, social, political, and religious coercion to cause you to take it.

I don't see your scenario playing out.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder


You didn't answer any of the questions. The closest thing to an answer is "I don't see your scenario playing out". Which to me sounds like "You can't be right, because I'm not wrong". My questions were exactly to make you think out of the box. Since it seems like you can't, there's no point on keeping a conversation.
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Re: The proof of vaccine is the mark of the beast.
Some questions for you:

What if they decide to do the other way around and mark only those NOT vaccinated?

What if its not done, like no tattoo or anything, just a central data linked to your SSN? Like SSN XXXX didn't take the vaccine.

What if they don't forbid you to buy or sell because of that, but restrict your right to go free?

What if you're believing the wrong god?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain


I worship the God of the Bible, Jehovah as translated into English, and his son Jesus Christ of Nazareth as translated into English.

The mark will not be forced on anyone.

The scripture says, they will CAUSE people to take the mark.

Economic, social, political, and religious coercion to cause you to take it.

I don't see your scenario playing out.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder


You didn't answer any of the questions. The closest thing to an answer is "I don't see your scenario playing out". Which to me sounds like "You can't be right, because I'm not wrong". My questions were exactly to make you think out of the box. Since it seems like you can't, there's no point on keeping a conversation.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain


You asked if I were believing the wrong God, I told you the God I believe in.

The answer to the rest of your questions is no, I don't believe those scenarios will play out as they don't line up with the word of God.

Not sure what more your looking for here?
What are the facts?
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Re: The proof of vaccine is the mark of the beast.
Who is the beast? You can't have a mark of the beast without a beast!
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True, the beast....aka the antichrist has not been unveiled as of yet. many prophecy watchers expect it to happen very soon considering the state of the world today and other prophecies that are in various stages of being fulfilled.
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This. It feels as if the beast will be revealed in 2021 or 2022. Imminent is the word I use.
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Anglo Elder  (OP)

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People are living in the belly of the beast and don't see it.

Can't see the forrest for the trees.
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Who is the beast? You can't have a mark of the beast without a beast!
 Quoting: GLP Effect


True, the beast....aka the antichrist has not been unveiled as of yet. many prophecy watchers expect it to happen very soon considering the state of the world today and other prophecies that are in various stages of being fulfilled.
 Quoting: Baloney


This. It feels as if the beast will be revealed in 2021 or 2022. Imminent is the word I use.
 Quoting: President Elect Daydream


disgust2
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People are living in the belly of the beast and don't see it.

Can't see the forrest for the trees.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder


Most people have no idea what is about to happen. Who do you think the AC is? Is he a current player on the world scene or is he unknown at this point? I have a list of candidates, and I'm not going to be shocked if it turns out to be any of them. But it's clear that the AC will issue the mark. The vaccination definitely plays into that, imo. So I think this thread is on the right path, but nuance is important for deciphering exactly what is what.
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Re: The proof of vaccine is the mark of the beast.
Some questions for you:

What if they decide to do the other way around and mark only those NOT vaccinated?

What if its not done, like no tattoo or anything, just a central data linked to your SSN? Like SSN XXXX didn't take the vaccine.

What if they don't forbid you to buy or sell because of that, but restrict your right to go free?

What if you're believing the wrong god?
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain


I worship the God of the Bible, Jehovah as translated into English, and his son Jesus Christ of Nazareth as translated into English.

The mark will not be forced on anyone.

The scripture says, they will CAUSE people to take the mark.

Economic, social, political, and religious coercion to cause you to take it.

I don't see your scenario playing out.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder


You didn't answer any of the questions. The closest thing to an answer is "I don't see your scenario playing out". Which to me sounds like "You can't be right, because I'm not wrong". My questions were exactly to make you think out of the box. Since it seems like you can't, there's no point on keeping a conversation.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingUAgain


You asked if I were believing the wrong God, I told you the God I believe in.

The answer to the rest of your questions is no, I don't believe those scenarios will play out as they don't line up with the word of God.

Not sure what more your looking for here?
 Quoting: Anglo Elder


I was looking at the ability to think outside of your indoctrination, but its ok. Having a premise that is not real and basing your life on a lie it is anyone's right.
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Re: The proof of vaccine is the mark of the beast.
Who is the beast? You can't have a mark of the beast without a beast!
 Quoting: GLP Effect


True, the beast....aka the antichrist has not been unveiled as of yet. many prophecy watchers expect it to happen very soon considering the state of the world today and other prophecies that are in various stages of being fulfilled.
 Quoting: Baloney


This. It feels as if the beast will be revealed in 2021 or 2022. Imminent is the word I use.
 Quoting: President Elect Daydream


disgust2
 Quoting: CluedIn


I've read your comments, and I'm not very impressed with them myself. The Crown Ritual ends in 2022 with someone being crowned. You've been crying in this thread about people not paying attention, but trust me when I say more than a few of us have.

Edit: I'm not saying everything you wrote is wrong, a lot of it is correct, but there is more to it than just Sabbath.

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Re: The proof of vaccine is the mark of the beast.
First they will give you a paper certificate as proof

But that won't last.

They will imprint on your arm or forehead with lasor tech the permanent certificate, invisible to the naked eye, a barcode which will permit you to buy and sale, work, travel, etc.


Those that take the vaccine and the imprinted code will suffer pain, and will have sores as a plague from God.

Those that refuse will have a hard way of it, but God will provide.

The sheep and the goats are about to be divided.

The sheep are God's people

The goats belong to satan.


God may delay their plans with ww3 and a global catacalysm of destruction according to some prophecies.


As for me and my family, we won't be taking the vaccine or the mark that goes with it.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder


Ahhh
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The vaccine is not the mark of the beast.
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True, the beast....aka the antichrist has not been unveiled as of yet. many prophecy watchers expect it to happen very soon considering the state of the world today and other prophecies that are in various stages of being fulfilled.
 Quoting: Baloney


This. It feels as if the beast will be revealed in 2021 or 2022. Imminent is the word I use.
 Quoting: President Elect Daydream


disgust2
 Quoting: CluedIn


I've read your comments, and I'm not very impressed with them myself. The Crown Ritual ends in 2022 with someone being crowned. You've been crying in this thread about people not paying attention, but trust me when I say more than a few of us have.

Edit: I'm not saying everything you wrote is wrong, a lot of it is correct, but there is more to it than just Sabbath.
 Quoting: President Elect Daydream



Without proper identification of the "beast", it is impossible to know what its mark is.

Impossible.

There are 2 beasts in the context here.

The beast of many waters (the one who will have a mark)
And the beast out of the earth (the one who will enforce the mark)

Until you identify them, you can have no clue, biblically or otherwise, what the mark is.

I would gladly type 10,000 words to prove who these 2 beasts are, if it would not fall on deaf ears.

But deaf ears are all there are.


Beast of many waters = papacy/vatican
Beast out of the earth = United States of America
Image of the beast = copy of the church/state system
Mark of the beast = enforced counterfeit sabbath in opposition of Gods Law
False prophet = apostate christianity/daughters of rome
Man of sin = popes of Rome
Mother of harlots = Roman church



Why some may ask are there so many deaf ears? Because people hate changing bad behavior.

When you learn the truth, you will be compelled to change things, often uncomfortably.

No more sunday churches.
No more pagan holydays (xmas,easter)
No more unclean foods.
No more birthdays exaltations.
No more booze/drugs.
No more hollywood movies and tv.
No more satanic music. (rock/country/rap etc)

Families will be separated, employment terminated, friends will abandon. Jesus warned He came to bring a sword. His truths would cause division. No one wants to deal with all that.

Because of that, simple milky topics such as identifying "the beast" become a long drawn out fantasy bloviation. Leading the reader only deeper into confusion and misery.

People hate change. People hate truth.
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This. It feels as if the beast will be revealed in 2021 or 2022. Imminent is the word I use.
 Quoting: President Elect Daydream


disgust2
 Quoting: CluedIn


I've read your comments, and I'm not very impressed with them myself. The Crown Ritual ends in 2022 with someone being crowned. You've been crying in this thread about people not paying attention, but trust me when I say more than a few of us have.

Edit: I'm not saying everything you wrote is wrong, a lot of it is correct, but there is more to it than just Sabbath.
 Quoting: President Elect Daydream



Without proper identification of the "beast", it is impossible to know what its mark is.

Impossible.

There are 2 beasts in the context here.

The beast of many waters (the one who will have a mark)
And the beast out of the earth (the one who will enforce the mark)

Until you identify them, you can have no clue, biblically or otherwise, what the mark is.

I would gladly type 10,000 words to prove who these 2 beasts are, if it would not fall on deaf ears.

But deaf ears are all there are.


Beast of many waters = papacy/vatican
Beast out of the earth = United States of America
Image of the beast = copy of the church/state system
Mark of the beast = enforced counterfeit sabbath in opposition of Gods Law
False prophet = apostate christianity/daughters of rome
Man of sin = popes of Rome
Mother of harlots = Roman church



Why some may ask are there so many deaf ears? Because people hate changing bad behavior.

When you learn the truth, you will be compelled to change things, often uncomfortably.

No more sunday churches.
No more pagan holydays (xmas,easter)
No more unclean foods.
No more birthdays exaltations.
No more booze/drugs.
No more hollywood movies and tv.
No more satanic music. (rock/country/rap etc)

Families will be separated, employment terminated, friends will abandon. Jesus warned He came to bring a sword. His truths would cause division. No one wants to deal with all that.

Because of that, simple milky topics such as identifying "the beast" become a long drawn out fantasy bloviation. Leading the reader only deeper into confusion and misery.

People hate change. People hate truth.
 Quoting: CluedIn


I've cut just about all those things you listed out of my life so I must be doing something right. Well then we should have that talk! Do you believe the two beasts are two specific individuals? I'm in some groups that will absolutely say that the Pope will be one of the beasts. Now who is the other individual? From my interpretation both beasts are individuals, specific people. And the mark is both economic and spiritual.
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Re: The proof of vaccine is the mark of the beast.
First they will give you a paper certificate as proof

But that won't last.

They will imprint on your arm or forehead with lasor tech the permanent certificate, invisible to the naked eye, a barcode which will permit you to buy and sale, work, travel, etc.


Those that take the vaccine and the imprinted code will suffer pain, and will have sores as a plague from God.

Those that refuse will have a hard way of it, but God will provide.

The sheep and the goats are about to be divided.

The sheep are God's people

The goats belong to satan.


God may delay their plans with ww3 and a global catacalysm of destruction according to some prophecies.


As for me and my family, we won't be taking the vaccine or the mark that goes with it.
 Quoting: Anglo Elder

You really need to read your Bible:

The “mark of the Beast”; must be the Name of the Beast(Anti Christ) or the number that represents his name.Which rules out a vaccine.

With proper study, you will realize that the word “mark”, refers to a visible sign:
1) inscribed upon a persons skin.
2) placed in one of two very specific locations.( neither of which is proper for the placement of a vaccine injection).(Rev 13:16)
3) If the “mark” is not a visible one, then it would be hard for the Beast’s followers to economically or religiously discriminate against those people who do not have it. (Rev 13:17)

Since we do not know who the Beast is (other than a man): it would be impossible to name him using a “mark”.
The False prophet,(who is empowered by the Beast) is the one who institutes the “mark of the Beast”.
No Beast/Anti Christ = No False Prophet = No “mark of the Beast”.
Get it!


Now as to timing of the “Mark”, the Bible is also specific.
The “mark” is not authorized by the False Prophet, until after the Anti Christ captures Jerusalem and the rebuilt Temple,(after breaking the 7 yr treaty).
Further more this does not occur until: “and it (the false Prophet) was allowed to give breath to the IMAGE of the BEAST( the abomination of Desolation event) so that the image of the beast could even speak and cause those who would not worship the image of the beast to be killed.” (Rev 13:15)


Biblical timing is a big key to understanding the “mark of the Beast”.
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 Quoting: CluedIn


I've read your comments, and I'm not very impressed with them myself. The Crown Ritual ends in 2022 with someone being crowned. You've been crying in this thread about people not paying attention, but trust me when I say more than a few of us have.

Edit: I'm not saying everything you wrote is wrong, a lot of it is correct, but there is more to it than just Sabbath.
 Quoting: President Elect Daydream



Without proper identification of the "beast", it is impossible to know what its mark is.

Impossible.

There are 2 beasts in the context here.

The beast of many waters (the one who will have a mark)
And the beast out of the earth (the one who will enforce the mark)

Until you identify them, you can have no clue, biblically or otherwise, what the mark is.

I would gladly type 10,000 words to prove who these 2 beasts are, if it would not fall on deaf ears.

But deaf ears are all there are.


Beast of many waters = papacy/vatican
Beast out of the earth = United States of America
Image of the beast = copy of the church/state system
Mark of the beast = enforced counterfeit sabbath in opposition of Gods Law
False prophet = apostate christianity/daughters of rome
Man of sin = popes of Rome
Mother of harlots = Roman church



Why some may ask are there so many deaf ears? Because people hate changing bad behavior.

When you learn the truth, you will be compelled to change things, often uncomfortably.

No more sunday churches.
No more pagan holydays (xmas,easter)
No more unclean foods.
No more birthdays exaltations.
No more booze/drugs.
No more hollywood movies and tv.
No more satanic music. (rock/country/rap etc)

Families will be separated, employment terminated, friends will abandon. Jesus warned He came to bring a sword. His truths would cause division. No one wants to deal with all that.

Because of that, simple milky topics such as identifying "the beast" become a long drawn out fantasy bloviation. Leading the reader only deeper into confusion and misery.

People hate change. People hate truth.
 Quoting: CluedIn


I've cut just about all those things you listed out of my life so I must be doing something right. Well then we should have that talk! Do you believe the two beasts are two specific individuals? I'm in some groups that will absolutely say that the Pope will be one of the beasts. Now who is the other individual? From my interpretation both beasts are individuals, specific people. And the mark is both economic and spiritual.
 Quoting: President Elect Daydream


Beasts in biblical prophecy are nations/countries/kingdoms.

Not men.

Daniel 7:23, "Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces."


John saw a woman (church) sitting on a scarlet colored beast (nation)

He saw the papacy merged with the Vatican.

Church/state.
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