PCR tests. How they "work" and what you aren't being told. | |
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User ID: 79487282 Singapore 11/25/2020 09:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70906785 Hey Bill Gates, you can take your PCR-test shove it up your RNA. You ain't getting paid your tree fiddy any day now. People know what you're up to and you're the one who should be banned from breathing another breath from our good earth. --- Yeshua reigns. Period. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72447531 United States 11/25/2020 09:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70906785 You can still shove the vaccine up your giant ass |
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User ID: 79683968 United Kingdom 11/25/2020 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Many experts saying to stop mass testing. The more you test the more false positives you get. Apparently 1-2% could be normal and as you involve less trained staff and push the time scales you can get up to 5% false positives. So in 100,000 tests you could get 1,000 to 5,000 false positives. The U.K. is testing about 300,000 so 3,000 to 15,000 could just be false! Tuesday 11,299 cases out of 212,000 tests / hmmmm go do the maths Boris!!! Last Edited by ParamedicUK on 11/25/2020 09:37 AM Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way…… Peace not War. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76860697 United States 11/25/2020 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70906785 Yeah fuck anybody who doesn't agree with the narrative. Am I right? douche |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79679798 United States 11/25/2020 09:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70906785 This is the truth and has been well documented elsewhere. You should be banned for trying to hide the truth. |
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Just Passing Through.....
*MOLON LABE* User ID: 78176210 United States 11/25/2020 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats all you hear in the media..."new cases, new cases" blah blah blah. Well what is a case? what determines a case?....a test? what is this test and how is it conducted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79683480 The PCR test. They obtain a specimen via swab. Then they extract RNA(ribonucleic acid) from that and convert to DNA. Next this gets AMPLIFIED by PCR with specific primers. Then they take the results and interpret them based on the presence of viral RNA. Sounds legit right? Well heres the problem that you can see in their studies and charts regarding how much they're amplifying it. The level of amplification is measured in cycles. From their own studies and reports, the test is correct at up to 17 cycles. At an amplification of 27 cycles, the rate at which the test is correct drops to 65%. Once they do 33 cycles, now the test is only correct 20% of the time.. At 34 cycles, there is a 0% CHANCE THAT THE RESULT IS CORRECT. With this information they did another study which took how much its being amplified and what day after you started showing symptoms you took the test. Up to 30 cycles, only being tested on the 3rd day you began showing symptoms, the test is correct 80%t of the time. At 27 cycles on day 4, the test is correct 60% of the time. At 17 cycles on day 5, the test is correct 33% of the time. After day 6, there is a 0% chance the test is correct. So why is this important? Why am I discussing this? Even after the CDC did these studies and knows how much they amplify it(cycles) affects the results, and even though they know that when you get tested also affects the results.......they havent changed the tests. Most PCR tests are being conducted at 40 cycles, some at 37. Im sure most of you can understand what this means. Here is the link with the chart comparing Amplification(CT) and the accuracy of the test. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Here is the link with the chart showing Amplification and when the test is taken. [link to www.cebm.net (secure)] There are now scientists and doctors starting lawsuits around the world to make people aware of this. Here is Lawyer Reiner Fullmich literally saying this exact thing with Ben Swann. This is big news with this lawsuit AND he is going after these fucking fact checkers "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
Just Passing Through.....
*MOLON LABE* User ID: 78176210 United States 11/25/2020 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70906785 "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43144256 United States 11/25/2020 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats all you hear in the media..."new cases, new cases" blah blah blah. Well what is a case? what determines a case?....a test? what is this test and how is it conducted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79683480 The PCR test. They obtain a specimen via swab. Then they extract RNA(ribonucleic acid) from that and convert to DNA. Next this gets AMPLIFIED by PCR with specific primers. Then they take the results and interpret them based on the presence of viral RNA. Sounds legit right? Well heres the problem that you can see in their studies and charts regarding how much they're amplifying it. The level of amplification is measured in cycles. From their own studies and reports, the test is correct at up to 17 cycles. At an amplification of 27 cycles, the rate at which the test is correct drops to 65%. Once they do 33 cycles, now the test is only correct 20% of the time.. At 34 cycles, there is a 0% CHANCE THAT THE RESULT IS CORRECT. With this information they did another study which took how much its being amplified and what day after you started showing symptoms you took the test. Up to 30 cycles, only being tested on the 3rd day you began showing symptoms, the test is correct 80%t of the time. At 27 cycles on day 4, the test is correct 60% of the time. At 17 cycles on day 5, the test is correct 33% of the time. After day 6, there is a 0% chance the test is correct. So why is this important? Why am I discussing this? Even after the CDC did these studies and knows how much they amplify it(cycles) affects the results, and even though they know that when you get tested also affects the results.......they havent changed the tests. Most PCR tests are being conducted at 40 cycles, some at 37. Im sure most of you can understand what this means. Here is the link with the chart comparing Amplification(CT) and the accuracy of the test. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Here is the link with the chart showing Amplification and when the test is taken. [link to www.cebm.net (secure)] There are now scientists and doctors starting lawsuits around the world to make people aware of this. 45 cycles is what we run on the biofire and genex machines at my lab It is absolutely absurd |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78854949 United States 11/25/2020 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70906785 Yeah, well-established as being hokey as fuck when the distortion with the cycles increases. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78416540 United States 11/25/2020 09:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70906785 Truth isn't welcome here! Remember that. Anyone who reads the crap on this site, and accepts it as fact, instead of the testimony of experts, isn't WORTH trying to reason with. These folks have made it clear that they WANT to be expendable LET THEM! Encourage them to spend time with other morons over the holidays. Tell them to drink and laugh and hug! The rest of us will win through attrition. Another thing....morons believe those who wear masks and follow guidelines do so out of fear. That’s just not true! It's out of respect for both the power of pathogens, and our fellow man. I fear no virus. If the guidelines are followed, there is no reason to fear it, just as i follow the guidelines of wearing shoes in the summer...personal protection against searing asphalt. We adapt. To refuse to adapt, is just fucking stupid! But, i respect the freedoms of others and will expect them to respect my freedom to PROPERLY deal with the pandemic. |
Russian Hacker
User ID: 77708095 United States 11/25/2020 09:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they supposedly made a vaccine for this but they still have not invented a test that detects the actual virus. It's all nonsense. I say this as someone who had covid already. There is some sort of illness and it is very contagious but there is a reason they haven't made a test that identifies the actual virus. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79240261 United States 11/25/2020 09:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So they supposedly made a vaccine for this but they still have not invented a test that detects the actual virus. It's all nonsense. I say this as someone who had covid already. There is some sort of illness and it is very contagious but there is a reason they haven't made a test that identifies the actual virus. Quoting: Russian Hacker You had a flu - a flu is a solvent - it happens in societal cycles - you were due for one - They haven't identified anything and never will |
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Use your brian... moran!
User ID: 78940322 United States 11/25/2020 10:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 5*s & my thanks for sharing this with us OP. Fuck what the flag by my name says, I'm from Texas! Wake up & smell reality. I have to much blood in my caffeine stream! "Oh look--another basement dwelling loser who ain't had pussy since pussy had him." Beans.N.Rice “The thing about smart mother fuckers is that sometimes, they sound like crazy mother fuckers to stupid mother fuckers...” Robert Kirkman |
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User ID: 14666353 United States 11/25/2020 10:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70906785 Holy fucking bullshit. You are paid to be here. Hope your paycheck is worth it, scumbag. Yeah. It’s still early And after that comment abt hurting confidence I just typed out the longest bitchdown in response but then deleted it all and walked away You guys , seems like they r really increasing the level of irritating and provoking that I wonder if the “logs” of OUR responses are what will be Used to denote people and their level of aggression and level of control in our comments and opinions online Its the red , yellow and blue mailbox stickers system replaced by new technology More secretive and more conclusive for the ‘list makers “ Every time I post a comment - it’s because what I just read was so outrageous and stirred me to “go to the trouble of commenting “ on what ever site. But especially here And I feel weird inside when I comment- as if someone really is looking over my shoulder now /// been online from 1999 and it has become infested with complete fake s h i t now. It’s almost like nature telling me that I need to back away. Don’t show my cards Trust NO one period. Only beloved ones. Others need to prove them selves just act like we r drinking the koolAid. And for GOD’s sake don’t take the test. Don’t take vax So that comment will put me in the red sticker list b/c they know it’s how I stand / it’s how I roll |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79393931 United Kingdom 11/25/2020 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats all you hear in the media..."new cases, new cases" blah blah blah. Well what is a case? what determines a case?....a test? what is this test and how is it conducted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79683480 The PCR test. They obtain a specimen via swab. Then they extract RNA(ribonucleic acid) from that and convert to DNA. Next this gets AMPLIFIED by PCR with specific primers. Then they take the results and interpret them based on the presence of viral RNA. Sounds legit right? Well heres the problem that you can see in their studies and charts regarding how much they're amplifying it. The level of amplification is measured in cycles. From their own studies and reports, the test is correct at up to 17 cycles. At an amplification of 27 cycles, the rate at which the test is correct drops to 65%. Once they do 33 cycles, now the test is only correct 20% of the time.. At 34 cycles, there is a 0% CHANCE THAT THE RESULT IS CORRECT. With this information they did another study which took how much its being amplified and what day after you started showing symptoms you took the test. Up to 30 cycles, only being tested on the 3rd day you began showing symptoms, the test is correct 80%t of the time. At 27 cycles on day 4, the test is correct 60% of the time. At 17 cycles on day 5, the test is correct 33% of the time. After day 6, there is a 0% chance the test is correct. So why is this important? Why am I discussing this? Even after the CDC did these studies and knows how much they amplify it(cycles) affects the results, and even though they know that when you get tested also affects the results.......they havent changed the tests. Most PCR tests are being conducted at 40 cycles, some at 37. Im sure most of you can understand what this means. Here is the link with the chart comparing Amplification(CT) and the accuracy of the test. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Here is the link with the chart showing Amplification and when the test is taken. [link to www.cebm.net (secure)] There are now scientists and doctors starting lawsuits around the world to make people aware of this. The primary purpose for the PCR test is to obtain a sample of that citizens DNA and store it in a computer database ready for the New World Order global government dictatorship. |
Deplorable Zenobia
User ID: 25022811 United States 11/25/2020 10:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | <<<snippage>>> Quoting: Just Passing Through..... Here is Lawyer Reiner Fullmich literally saying this exact thing with Ben Swann. This is big news with this lawsuit AND he is going after these fucking fact checkers Saw Ben's video earlier this a.m. and what made me smile and LOL was when his guest agreed that 'yes, ours will set a precedent and can be effectively used as a template for other countries to follow suit.' (paraphrasing here) And I'm bettin' dollars to donuts that there are quite a few members of the BAR here in USA busy as Santa's elves prepping for their turn at the whack-an-ass-hate mole game. And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78416540 United States 11/25/2020 10:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats all you hear in the media..."new cases, new cases" blah blah blah. Well what is a case? what determines a case?....a test? what is this test and how is it conducted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79683480 The PCR test. They obtain a specimen via swab. Then they extract RNA(ribonucleic acid) from that and convert to DNA. Next this gets AMPLIFIED by PCR with specific primers. Then they take the results and interpret them based on the presence of viral RNA. Sounds legit right? Well heres the problem that you can see in their studies and charts regarding how much they're amplifying it. The level of amplification is measured in cycles. From their own studies and reports, the test is correct at up to 17 cycles. At an amplification of 27 cycles, the rate at which the test is correct drops to 65%. Once they do 33 cycles, now the test is only correct 20% of the time.. At 34 cycles, there is a 0% CHANCE THAT THE RESULT IS CORRECT. With this information they did another study which took how much its being amplified and what day after you started showing symptoms you took the test. Up to 30 cycles, only being tested on the 3rd day you began showing symptoms, the test is correct 80%t of the time. At 27 cycles on day 4, the test is correct 60% of the time. At 17 cycles on day 5, the test is correct 33% of the time. After day 6, there is a 0% chance the test is correct. So why is this important? Why am I discussing this? Even after the CDC did these studies and knows how much they amplify it(cycles) affects the results, and even though they know that when you get tested also affects the results.......they havent changed the tests. Most PCR tests are being conducted at 40 cycles, some at 37. Im sure most of you can understand what this means. Here is the link with the chart comparing Amplification(CT) and the accuracy of the test. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Here is the link with the chart showing Amplification and when the test is taken. [link to www.cebm.net (secure)] There are now scientists and doctors starting lawsuits around the world to make people aware of this. How about discussing this with a REAL scientist? I DARE you to reach out to Doctor Wilson at the YouTube channel "Debunk the Funk", and discuss like gentlemen. I think you're full of shit. Care to discuss it with an expert and prove me wrong?! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78416540 United States 11/25/2020 10:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thats all you hear in the media..."new cases, new cases" blah blah blah. Well what is a case? what determines a case?....a test? what is this test and how is it conducted? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79683480 The PCR test. They obtain a specimen via swab. Then they extract RNA(ribonucleic acid) from that and convert to DNA. Next this gets AMPLIFIED by PCR with specific primers. Then they take the results and interpret them based on the presence of viral RNA. Sounds legit right? Well heres the problem that you can see in their studies and charts regarding how much they're amplifying it. The level of amplification is measured in cycles. From their own studies and reports, the test is correct at up to 17 cycles. At an amplification of 27 cycles, the rate at which the test is correct drops to 65%. Once they do 33 cycles, now the test is only correct 20% of the time.. At 34 cycles, there is a 0% CHANCE THAT THE RESULT IS CORRECT. With this information they did another study which took how much its being amplified and what day after you started showing symptoms you took the test. Up to 30 cycles, only being tested on the 3rd day you began showing symptoms, the test is correct 80%t of the time. At 27 cycles on day 4, the test is correct 60% of the time. At 17 cycles on day 5, the test is correct 33% of the time. After day 6, there is a 0% chance the test is correct. So why is this important? Why am I discussing this? Even after the CDC did these studies and knows how much they amplify it(cycles) affects the results, and even though they know that when you get tested also affects the results.......they havent changed the tests. Most PCR tests are being conducted at 40 cycles, some at 37. Im sure most of you can understand what this means. Here is the link with the chart comparing Amplification(CT) and the accuracy of the test. [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] Here is the link with the chart showing Amplification and when the test is taken. [link to www.cebm.net (secure)] There are now scientists and doctors starting lawsuits around the world to make people aware of this. The primary purpose for the PCR test is to obtain a sample of that citizens DNA and store it in a computer database ready for the New World Order global government dictatorship. Sorry about your paranoia. Get well soon! |
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Lance Roseman From BC
User ID: 77547432 Canada 11/25/2020 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70906785 In other words, you don't know what you are typing about and the type of person making poor Kary roll over in his grave with your misguided calculations. Perfect. We know who you are and where you stand now. Please get onboard the spaceship with the phone sanitizers. If you are not busy weaving your own magick, you are trapped in anothers spell. “It’s time you realized that you have something in you more powerful and miraculous than the things that affect you and make you dance like a puppet.” – Marcus Aurelius |
Just Passing Through.....
*MOLON LABE* User ID: 78176210 United States 11/25/2020 10:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PCR is well-established, working and reliable method. The experts who conduct the testing know all this. Idle talk like this only hurts the public confidence in experts and really should be banned like enemy propaganda during war. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70906785 Truth isn't welcome here! Remember that. Anyone who reads the crap on this site, and accepts it as fact, instead of the testimony of experts, isn't WORTH trying to reason with. These folks have made it clear that they WANT to be expendable LET THEM! Encourage them to spend time with other morons over the holidays. Tell them to drink and laugh and hug! The rest of us will win through attrition. Another thing....morons believe those who wear masks and follow guidelines do so out of fear. That’s just not true! It's out of respect for both the power of pathogens, and our fellow man. I fear no virus. If the guidelines are followed, there is no reason to fear it, just as i follow the guidelines of wearing shoes in the summer...personal protection against searing asphalt. We adapt. To refuse to adapt, is just fucking stupid! But, i respect the freedoms of others and will expect them to respect my freedom to PROPERLY deal with the pandemic. For now, there is no FUCKING reason for any of these bullshit guidelines. The PCR test suck, the mask and lockdowns are NOT viable, and too many governments are spreading tyranny and Communism with this shit. If you're for that or the many kids that will starve due to these lock downs, or all the middle class owned businesses failing due to all these measures, you are a fucking clown and I question you as a human. Go on the Covid-19 thread here and share recipes and bootlicking like all the other plebs on there. "She isn't real.....I can't make her real" "Somewhere between the sacred silence and sleep...Disorder, Disorder, Disorder" "The World is a business Mr Beale..." "You depend on our protection yet you feed us lies from the tablecloth......" ENFJ |
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