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BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. | |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79076283 United Kingdom11/26/2020 08:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. Come on, this has to be the biggest, single reason, not to have a vaccine. It's simply less effective than the immune system. provably and will no doubt have some side effects. |
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| Rationalist
User ID: 79344704 United States11/26/2020 08:19 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. If all the 269,555 people who died had been vaccinated against the virus, receiving a vaccine with 95% effectiveness, then 256,077 would still be alive...only 13,478 would have died. Those are some numbers, too. Additionally, we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79554594  Germany11/26/2020 08:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. until that changes it’s a non event in human history also as predicted vaccine appeared few days after biden won by fraud |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79076283 United Kingdom11/26/2020 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. If all the 269,555 people who died had been vaccinated against the virus, receiving a vaccine with 95% effectiveness, then 256,077 would still be alive...only 13,478 would have died. Quoting: Rationalist Those are some numbers, too. Additionally, we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis... You can't fix a non functioning immune system with a vaccine. the 3% that died, didn't have an immune system that could cope with the virus. by injecting a vaccine, it's not going to make their immune system magically work. |
| Butch DeFeo
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30263787 United Kingdom11/26/2020 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. That's not how it works pal. The vaccine % is to stop you getting the virus in the first place if you get it then your immune system kicks in to fight it. Vaccine is your first line of defence use your brain if you have one. |
| Rationalist
User ID: 79344704 United States11/26/2020 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. If all the 269,555 people who died had been vaccinated against the virus, receiving a vaccine with 95% effectiveness, then 256,077 would still be alive...only 13,478 would have died. Quoting: Rationalist Those are some numbers, too. Additionally, we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis... You can't fix a non functioning immune system with a vaccine. the 3% that died, didn't have an immune system that could cope with the virus. by injecting a vaccine, it's not going to make their immune system magically work. The vaccine would boost their immune systems, creating antibodies to fight off the virus. When they encountered the virus, their immune systems would have fought it off. That's how vaccines work. If those 269,555 people had received a vaccine that was 95% effective, then, of that group, only 13,478 would have died. |
| Rationalist
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| Rationalist
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79076283 United Kingdom11/26/2020 08:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. If all the 269,555 people who died had been vaccinated against the virus, receiving a vaccine with 95% effectiveness, then 256,077 would still be alive...only 13,478 would have died. Quoting: Rationalist Those are some numbers, too. Additionally, we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis... You can't fix a non functioning immune system with a vaccine. the 3% that died, didn't have an immune system that could cope with the virus. by injecting a vaccine, it's not going to make their immune system magically work. The vaccine would boost their immune systems, creating antibodies to fight off the virus. When they encountered the virus, their immune systems would have fought it off. That's how vaccines work. If those 269,555 people had received a vaccine that was 95% effective, then, of that group, only 13,478 would have died. No it wouldnt do that. It can only make an immune system aware in advance. if they don't have a functioning immune system. there is nothing to attack a virus even with a vaccine in play. |
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| Rationalist
User ID: 79344704 United States11/26/2020 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. And -- again -- we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis. There are stories of heart damage among those who have tested positive. Quoting: Rationalist it's been over a year since the initial diagnosis have been made. been plenty of time for that. Then, do the research. The stories are out there. What are the survival rates of other highly contagious diseases for which vaccines exist? Smallpox? Mumps? Measles? And so on? Vaccines exist to protect the population, and have been widely effective. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79076283 United Kingdom11/26/2020 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. That's not how it works pal. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30263787 The vaccine % is to stop you getting the virus in the first place if you get it then your immune system kicks in to fight it. Vaccine is your first line of defence use your brain if you have one. You have no idea how it works then. You say the vaccine stops you contracting (getting) the virus? how does it do that?? that's total nonsense. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79076283 United Kingdom11/26/2020 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. And -- again -- we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis. There are stories of heart damage among those who have tested positive. Quoting: Rationalist it's been over a year since the initial diagnosis have been made. been plenty of time for that. Then, do the research. The stories are out there. What are the survival rates of other highly contagious diseases for which vaccines exist? Smallpox? Mumps? Measles? And so on? Vaccines exist to protect the population, and have been widely effective. If that was true, we would have an excess in death now. and an exponential one at that. Which we don't. So it's not true. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79076283 United Kingdom11/26/2020 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. And -- again -- we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis. There are stories of heart damage among those who have tested positive. Quoting: Rationalist it's been over a year since the initial diagnosis have been made. been plenty of time for that. Then, do the research. The stories are out there. What are the survival rates of other highly contagious diseases for which vaccines exist? Smallpox? Mumps? Measles? And so on? Vaccines exist to protect the population, and have been widely effective. There are also no real studies on the efficacy of a vaccine in the wild. |
| Rationalist
User ID: 79344704 United States11/26/2020 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. And -- again -- we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis. There are stories of heart damage among those who have tested positive. Quoting: Rationalist it's been over a year since the initial diagnosis have been made. been plenty of time for that. Then, do the research. The stories are out there. What are the survival rates of other highly contagious diseases for which vaccines exist? Smallpox? Mumps? Measles? And so on? Vaccines exist to protect the population, and have been widely effective. There are also no real studies on the efficacy of a vaccine in the wild. There are none you are aware of. |
| Blindspot
User ID: 79599728 United States11/26/2020 08:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. If all the 269,555 people who died had been vaccinated against the virus, receiving a vaccine with 95% effectiveness, then 256,077 would still be alive...only 13,478 would have died. Quoting: Rationalist Those are some numbers, too. Additionally, we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis... Yea but we all know that the number of deaths from this virus are not accurate they are way off. We are being lied to. What a surprise. The one america news special I saw earlier this evening mentioned there are roughly 20k deaths from the virus itself. |
| Blindspot
User ID: 79599728 United States11/26/2020 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. The virus is total nonsense. Always was always will be. I have a thread running about a special that OAN ran tonight. Was dope. Quoting: Blindspot Indeed, but don't you agree this argument i bring is water tight? no wiggle room? The vaccine is totally uncalled for. |
| Blindspot
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77816241 Australia11/26/2020 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. The virus is total nonsense. Always was always will be. I have a thread running about a special that OAN ran tonight. Was dope. Quoting: Blindspot Indeed, but don't you agree this argument i bring is water tight? no wiggle room? The vaccine is totally uncalled for. Plus, it's probably not really a vaccine! |
| ToSeek
User ID: 9653749 United States11/26/2020 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. Even when looking at the numbers in the worst possible way, 269,555 deaths with Corona/Covid-19 on death certificate is 2.03% of 13,247,756 (the total tested positive). Meaning the human immune system is 97.97% effective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79076283 For there to be any reason to have a vaccine, it's going to need to be more than 97.97% effective, with no side effects. Otherwise, there is no point at all in a vaccine that's less effective than the human immune system is anyway. if there are side effects too, to it. It would have to be completely not worth it. Can a vaccine ever beat 97.97% effectiveness with no side effects? [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] If vaccine effectiveness were measured relative to humans with no immune system, you might have a point, but it's not. When they say a vaccine is 95% effective, that's relative to an unvaccinated person with a healthy immune system. |
| ToSeek
User ID: 9653749 United States11/26/2020 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. If all the 269,555 people who died had been vaccinated against the virus, receiving a vaccine with 95% effectiveness, then 256,077 would still be alive...only 13,478 would have died. Quoting: Rationalist Those are some numbers, too. Additionally, we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis... Yea but we all know that the number of deaths from this virus are not accurate they are way off. We are being lied to. What a surprise. The one america news special I saw earlier this evening mentioned there are roughly 20k deaths from the virus itself. And yet somehow over 300,000 more Americans have died in 2020 than is normal. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] |
