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BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79076283  United Kingdom11/26/2020 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. Even when looking at the numbers in the worst possible way, 269,555 deaths with Corona/Covid-19 on death certificate is 2.03% of 13,247,756 (the total tested positive). Meaning the human immune system is 97.97% effective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79076283 For there to be any reason to have a vaccine, it's going to need to be more than 97.97% effective, with no side effects. Otherwise, there is no point at all in a vaccine that's less effective than the human immune system is anyway. if there are side effects too, to it. It would have to be completely not worth it. Can a vaccine ever beat 97.97% effectiveness with no side effects? [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] If vaccine effectiveness were measured relative to humans with no immune system, you might have a point, but it's not. When they say a vaccine is 95% effective, that's relative to an unvaccinated person with a healthy immune system. If all the 269,555 people who died had been vaccinated against the virus, receiving a vaccine with 95% effectiveness, then 256,077 would still be alive...only 13,478 would have died. Quoting: Rationalist Those are some numbers, too. Additionally, we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis... Yea but we all know that the number of deaths from this virus are not accurate they are way off. We are being lied to. What a surprise. The one america news special I saw earlier this evening mentioned there are roughly 20k deaths from the virus itself. And yet somehow over 300,000 more Americans have died in 2020 than is normal. [link to www.cdc.gov (secure)] false argument. normal over a 5 year average. go back 6 years and it's the same. the efficacy of a vaccine, is simply the chance of someone developing a response to it. it's not the survival rate that's equivalent to the immune system effectiveness at surviving it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78049307 11/26/2020 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. If all the 269,555 people who died had been vaccinated against the virus, receiving a vaccine with 95% effectiveness, then 256,077 would still be alive...only 13,478 would have died. Quoting: Rationalist Those are some numbers, too. Additionally, we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis... You can't fix a non functioning immune system with a vaccine. the 3% that died, didn't have an immune system that could cope with the virus. by injecting a vaccine, it's not going to make their immune system magically work. You also can't fix stupid. A large percentage of the COVID "deaths" were people who were PAST LIFE EXPECTANCY IN THE US. Read the actual reports from state health departments. One person here in FL was 104. A hundred and four fucking years old. FFS they could've been startled and keeled over. Those damn pesky little facts... |
ToSeek
 User ID: 9653749  United States11/26/2020 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. the efficacy of a vaccine, is simply the chance of someone developing a response to it. it's not the survival rate that's equivalent to the immune system effectiveness at surviving it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79076283 Pfizer's vaccine study enrolled 43,000 people. Half got the vaccine (actually two shots of the vaccine) and half didn't (the control or placebo group). Out of the placebo group, 162 came down with COVID. Out of the vaccine group, 8 came down with COVID. Obviously, having the vaccine is way better than not having the vaccine. |
| ToSeek
User ID: 9653749 United States11/26/2020 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. If all the 269,555 people who died had been vaccinated against the virus, receiving a vaccine with 95% effectiveness, then 256,077 would still be alive...only 13,478 would have died. Quoting: Rationalist Those are some numbers, too. Additionally, we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis... You can't fix a non functioning immune system with a vaccine. the 3% that died, didn't have an immune system that could cope with the virus. by injecting a vaccine, it's not going to make their immune system magically work. An immune system is not a fixed thing. It can be trained to deal with viruses, which is exactly why we have vaccines - and why people who have gotten the measles or most other infectious diseases don't get them again. If you were right, all vaccines would be pointless. |
| Butch DeFeo
User ID: 79655636 United States11/26/2020 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. The scamdoomic is about to be figured out and solved by the entire world! Last Edited by Butch DeFeo on 11/26/2020 09:35 PM :DOCSRBAFFLED::redblueLED::DONTBEAPANDEMICS: Only you can stop the fake pandemic for yourself, no one will ever tell you the pandemic is over. It's time to WIN. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78049307 11/26/2020 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. the efficacy of a vaccine, is simply the chance of someone developing a response to it. it's not the survival rate that's equivalent to the immune system effectiveness at surviving it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79076283 Pfizer's vaccine study enrolled 43,000 people. Half got the vaccine (actually two shots of the vaccine) and half didn't (the control or placebo group). Out of the placebo group, 162 came down with COVID. Out of the vaccine group, 8 came down with COVID. Obviously, having the vaccine is way better than not having the vaccine. That's not OP's point. If we were talking about the most prevalent strain of say, Smallpox, with a mortality rate of 30%, then sure, a vaccine makes sense. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74157870 United States11/26/2020 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. Even when looking at the numbers in the worst possible way, 269,555 deaths with Corona/Covid-19 on death certificate is 2.03% of 13,247,756 (the total tested positive). Meaning the human immune system is 97.97% effective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79076283 For there to be any reason to have a vaccine, it's going to need to be more than 97.97% effective, with no side effects. Otherwise, there is no point at all in a vaccine that's less effective than the human immune system is anyway. if there are side effects too, to it. It would have to be completely not worth it. Can a vaccine ever beat 97.97% effectiveness with no side effects? [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] ~~~~~~~~~ It should not even be called a vaccine. It’s nefarious, dangerous, irreversible & will modify the DNA, changing people from God’s creation! This results in ZERO chance to ascend to Heaven! This is a Spiritual Battle whether people know it or not... Incredibly serious ramifications!! |
| Katipo2017
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| 1guynAz
User ID: 78987609 United States11/26/2020 11:02 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. Even when looking at the numbers in the worst possible way, 269,555 deaths with Corona/Covid-19 on death certificate is 2.03% of 13,247,756 (the total tested positive). Meaning the human immune system is 97.97% effective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79076283 For there to be any reason to have a vaccine, it's going to need to be more than 97.97% effective, with no side effects. Otherwise, there is no point at all in a vaccine that's less effective than the human immune system is anyway. if there are side effects too, to it. It would have to be completely not worth it. Can a vaccine ever beat 97.97% effectiveness with no side effects? [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] Excellent information! I've been telling people close to me I feel like this is so wrong too. It's overkill. Let the body do it's own natural function just take healthy supplements is all anyone as they get older should be doing. Just natural help for you body. Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78972067 United States11/26/2020 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. If all the 269,555 people who died had been vaccinated against the virus, receiving a vaccine with 95% effectiveness, then 256,077 would still be alive...only 13,478 would have died. Quoting: Rationalist Those are some numbers, too. Additionally, we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis... 264,875 dead. Use absolute. Not the miniscule amount driving the relative. |
| R&y
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| ToSeek
User ID: 9653749 United States11/27/2020 12:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. Keep in mind one strain of the polio vaccine had a long term record for every thousand people that were saved from polio a million got cancer. Quoting: R&y That's not remotely accurate. Some of the vaccines were contaminated with a substance ("simian virus 40") known to cause cancer in rodents. Once this was found, care was taken to make sure future doses didn't contain it. But there's never been any evidence that anyone - let alone millions - got cancer from the polio vaccine [link to pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77851528  Canada11/27/2020 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. the efficacy of a vaccine, is simply the chance of someone developing a response to it. it's not the survival rate that's equivalent to the immune system effectiveness at surviving it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79076283 Pfizer's vaccine study enrolled 43,000 people. Half got the vaccine (actually two shots of the vaccine) and half didn't (the control or placebo group). Out of the placebo group, 162 came down with COVID. Out of the vaccine group, 8 came down with COVID. Obviously, having the vaccine is way better than not having the vaccine. Who the fuck you work for? You gona show me a Pfizer backed study ? Gtfo out of here you dumbass stop pretending to be smart when you are obviously dumb as a brick or an imposter |
| SilverCyprus
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77986512  Japan11/27/2020 12:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. "Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective." yup 50% of the Population would survive in a Herd Immunity Scenario. . |
| fiora.ni
User ID: 78314149 United States11/27/2020 01:18 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. China. Current state of affairs: "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." Russian warship, go f#ck yourself! Say with me: Palianytsia :) |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79076283 United Kingdom11/27/2020 03:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. Immune system is 97% effective at preventing death. Quoting: SilverCyprus Vaccine is 95% effective at preventing infection. You are comparing apples to oranges. A vaccine does NOT preventing infection. That's not what the 95% efficacy means. Why do people think that a vaccine prevents contagion? Even Facci is saying a vaccine does not prevent, contagion and obviously because it can't. Havn't you noticed facci has been telling the truth since trump threatened to fire him? |
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| RomanianGuy
User ID: 79562335  Romania11/27/2020 03:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. the efficacy of a vaccine, is simply the chance of someone developing a response to it. it's not the survival rate that's equivalent to the immune system effectiveness at surviving it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79076283 Pfizer's vaccine study enrolled 43,000 people. Half got the vaccine (actually two shots of the vaccine) and half didn't (the control or placebo group). Out of the placebo group, 162 came down with COVID. Out of the vaccine group, 8 came down with COVID. Obviously, having the vaccine is way better than not having the vaccine. It's way better only if you fear you'd be among the 2% that risk dying if they get the virus. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79690830 United States11/27/2020 04:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. Even when looking at the numbers in the worst possible way, 269,555 deaths with Corona/Covid-19 on death certificate is 2.03% of 13,247,756 (the total tested positive). Meaning the human immune system is 97.97% effective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79076283 For there to be any reason to have a vaccine, it's going to need to be more than 97.97% effective, with no side effects. Otherwise, there is no point at all in a vaccine that's less effective than the human immune system is anyway. if there are side effects too, to it. It would have to be completely not worth it. Can a vaccine ever beat 97.97% effectiveness with no side effects? [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)] dude, they wont even test people to see if they already have the antibodies for the virus before they force inject them with the covid vaccine.. You have no choice. you need to be injected if you want to take part in the new world order orwellian despot dictatorship. |
| Rationalist
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79633809  Poland11/27/2020 05:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. Even when looking at the numbers in the worst possible way, 269,555 deaths with Corona/Covid-19 on death certificate is 2.03% of 13,247,756 (the total tested positive). Meaning the human immune system is 97.97% effective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79076283 For there to be any reason to have a vaccine, it's going to need to be more than 97.97% effective, with no side effects. Otherwise, there is no point at all in a vaccine that's less effective than the human immune system is anyway. if there are side effects too, to it. It would have to be completely not worth it. Can a vaccine ever beat 97.97% effectiveness with no side effects? [link to www.worldometers.info (secure)]  |
| Katipo2017
User ID: 79681070 New Zealand11/27/2020 05:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79076283 United Kingdom11/27/2020 07:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. BTW, the USA is beating the UK, our immune system over here is only 95.76% effective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79076283 You think because immune system good at fighting one virus it good at fighting others? of course. antibodies just attack anything foreign, engulf. release h2o4 and destroy the pathogen. |
| Vision Thing
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| OP User ID: 73234450 United Kingdom11/29/2020 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. Corona Awards Worldwide- 62,300,000 Infected, 1,450,000 Deaths with covid - 97.67% Effective Immune System. USA - 183,150,000+ Tested, 13,300,000 Infected, 266,000 Deaths with covid - 98% Effective Immune System. UK - 39,888,901 Tested, 1,605,172 Infected, 66,713 Deaths with covid - 95.84% Effective Immune System. |
| the decider
User ID: 79702802 United States11/30/2020 08:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: BREAKING: Even when looking at the Corona numbers in the worst possible way the human immune system alone is 97.96% effective. And -- again -- we still don't know of any long-term effects of a positive diagnosis. There are stories of heart damage among those who have tested positive. Quoting: Rationalist We still don't know any long term effects of a vaccine. Two can play that game. touche Augmented by Grace |
