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A donor has sued a pro-Trump group for $2.5 million over “empty promises” after he says it failed to prove voter fraud in the presidential election.

Fred Eshelman sued Houston-based True the Vote Inc., which promised to “investigate, litigate and expose suspected illegal balloting ad fraud in the 2020 general election,” Bloomberg reported.

Eshelman, founder of Eshelman Ventures LLC, claimed that he “regularly and repeatedly” asked for updates on the initiative but was met with “vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises.”

True the Vote said its efforts included filing lawsuits in several swing states, collecting whistleblower complaints, increasing GOP legislative support in key states and conducting “sophisticated data modeling and statistical analysis to identify potential illegal or fraudulent balloting,” according to the suit in Houston federal court.

Eshelman decided to wire True the Vote $2 million on Nov. 5 and another $500,000 a week later after the group’s president said more money would be needed to achieve their goals, according to the suit. He asked for his money to be returned after the group failed to provide reports on its progress, saying it became obvious the group would not be able to execute its plan.

Eshelman said in the complaint that True the Vote offered him $1 million if he wouldn’t sue them, Bloomberg notes.

True the Vote filed four lawsuits in the weeks after the election, Bloomberg notes, but it dropped all of them last week. The suits were filed in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, all states that President-elect Joe Biden won.

President Trump and his allies have repeatedly alleged baseless claims of widespread voter fraud in the election, and his reelection campaign has mounted legal challenges in a handful of key battleground states seeking to challenge or overturn the results.

The campaign’s legal efforts have thus far been unsuccessful, and no evidence has emerged of any widespread issues that would have influenced the outcome of the election.

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A fool and his money are soon parted.

It's hard to believe how many people have been suckered by Trump's claims.
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It's like sending money to an organisation to prove the existence of the Loch Ness Monster and then getting annoyed that they found nothing while the director of the fund skimmed money off the top.

Economic Darwinism at its finest.
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A donor has sued a pro-Trump group for $2.5 million over “empty promises” after he says it failed to prove voter fraud in the presidential election.
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They have no proof that Trump will have failed in the future. Zero evidence of Trump fail. Case dismissed.

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A donor has sued a pro-Trump group for $2.5 million over “empty promises” after he says it failed to prove voter fraud in the presidential election.
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They have no proof that Trump will have failed in the future. Zero evidence of Trump fail. Case dismissed.
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Read the story:

Eshelman, founder of Eshelman Ventures LLC, claimed that he “regularly and repeatedly” asked for updates on the initiative but was met with “vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises.”

And yes, more than 30 of Trump's cases have indeed already been dismissed for lack of evidence. The guy was suckered out of $2.5 million dollars and they can't even give him an update.

Sometimes I wonder if this whole Trump Legal Defense Fund is just another of his moneymaking scams.
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Eshelman, founder of Eshelman Ventures LLC, claimed that he “regularly and repeatedly” asked for updates on the initiative but was met with “vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises.”

And yes, more than 30 of Trump's cases have indeed already been dismissed for lack of evidence. The guy was suckered out of $2.5 million dollars and they can't even give him an update.

Sometimes I wonder if this whole Trump Legal Defense Fund is just another of his moneymaking scams.
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Maybe he should wait until the lawsuits actually begin? They haven't even begun yet, how can they have failed?

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nothingburger. God is mocking the right.
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Eshelman, founder of Eshelman Ventures LLC, claimed that he “regularly and repeatedly” asked for updates on the initiative but was met with “vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises.”

And yes, more than 30 of Trump's cases have indeed already been dismissed for lack of evidence. The guy was suckered out of $2.5 million dollars and they can't even give him an update.

Sometimes I wonder if this whole Trump Legal Defense Fund is just another of his moneymaking scams.
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Maybe he should wait until the lawsuits actually begin? They haven't even begun yet, how can they have failed?
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39 lawsuits have already been filed and all but one was either withdrawn or dismissed by the court.

But hey, sure, there are more lawsuits just around the corner. Keep sending mo' money! That's how a con man grifts.
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Keep sending him more money, suckers....

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39 lawsuits have already been filed and all but one was either withdrawn or dismissed by the court.
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None of them were from Trump.
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39 lawsuits have already been filed and all but one was either withdrawn or dismissed by the court.
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None of them were from Trump.
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What an ignorant excuse. Of course they were - filed in the name of Donald J. Trump for President, Inc. and paid for by his donations.

For example, here is a recent failed appeal in Pennsylvania:

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Go ahead...send him some money.He's broke.
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A fool and his money are soon parted.

It's hard to believe how many people have been suckered by Trump's claims.
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I don't think you understand this suit.
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Re: Multi-million dollar donor sues pro-Trump group over failure to prove voter fraud: 'Empty promises'
A donor has sued a pro-Trump group for $2.5 million over “empty promises” after he says it failed to prove voter fraud in the presidential election.

Fred Eshelman sued Houston-based True the Vote Inc., which promised to “investigate, litigate and expose suspected illegal balloting ad fraud in the 2020 general election,” Bloomberg reported.

Eshelman, founder of Eshelman Ventures LLC, claimed that he “regularly and repeatedly” asked for updates on the initiative but was met with “vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises.”

True the Vote said its efforts included filing lawsuits in several swing states, collecting whistleblower complaints, increasing GOP legislative support in key states and conducting “sophisticated data modeling and statistical analysis to identify potential illegal or fraudulent balloting,” according to the suit in Houston federal court.

Eshelman decided to wire True the Vote $2 million on Nov. 5 and another $500,000 a week later after the group’s president said more money would be needed to achieve their goals, according to the suit. He asked for his money to be returned after the group failed to provide reports on its progress, saying it became obvious the group would not be able to execute its plan.

Eshelman said in the complaint that True the Vote offered him $1 million if he wouldn’t sue them, Bloomberg notes.

True the Vote filed four lawsuits in the weeks after the election, Bloomberg notes, but it dropped all of them last week. The suits were filed in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, all states that President-elect Joe Biden won.

President Trump and his allies have repeatedly alleged baseless claims of widespread voter fraud in the election, and his reelection campaign has mounted legal challenges in a handful of key battleground states seeking to challenge or overturn the results.

The campaign’s legal efforts have thus far been unsuccessful, and no evidence has emerged of any widespread issues that would have influenced the outcome of the election.

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This is just an opportunist organisation milking this guy for funds. Nothing to do with the Trump team challenges.

I do think the blatant lying in the article where they say “base-less claims” , which is appalling given the two cases already submitted by Sidney. You cannot read them and come to the conclusion they are baseless.
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A donor has sued a pro-Trump group for $2.5 million over “empty promises” after he says it failed to prove voter fraud in the presidential election.

Fred Eshelman sued Houston-based True the Vote Inc., which promised to “investigate, litigate and expose suspected illegal balloting ad fraud in the 2020 general election,” Bloomberg reported.

Eshelman, founder of Eshelman Ventures LLC, claimed that he “regularly and repeatedly” asked for updates on the initiative but was met with “vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises.”

True the Vote said its efforts included filing lawsuits in several swing states, collecting whistleblower complaints, increasing GOP legislative support in key states and conducting “sophisticated data modeling and statistical analysis to identify potential illegal or fraudulent balloting,” according to the suit in Houston federal court.

Eshelman decided to wire True the Vote $2 million on Nov. 5 and another $500,000 a week later after the group’s president said more money would be needed to achieve their goals, according to the suit. He asked for his money to be returned after the group failed to provide reports on its progress, saying it became obvious the group would not be able to execute its plan.

Eshelman said in the complaint that True the Vote offered him $1 million if he wouldn’t sue them, Bloomberg notes.

True the Vote filed four lawsuits in the weeks after the election, Bloomberg notes, but it dropped all of them last week. The suits were filed in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, all states that President-elect Joe Biden won.

President Trump and his allies have repeatedly alleged baseless claims of widespread voter fraud in the election, and his reelection campaign has mounted legal challenges in a handful of key battleground states seeking to challenge or overturn the results.

The campaign’s legal efforts have thus far been unsuccessful, and no evidence has emerged of any widespread issues that would have influenced the outcome of the election.

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This is just an opportunist organisation milking this guy for funds. Nothing to do with the Trump team challenges.

I do think the blatant lying in the article where they say “base-less claims” , which is appalling given the two cases already submitted by Sidney. You cannot read them and come to the conclusion they are baseless.
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And then there is the grifter in chief's "Legal Defense Fund". Go ahead and send them some money.

As for Sidney Powell's batshit conspiracy theories, of course they are groundless. Loads of accusations and not one shred of real evidence in the court filings.

Love the part about how Cesar Chavez started it all, though. Dead men don't talk.

What a clown show.
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A donor has sued a pro-Trump group for $2.5 million over “empty promises” after he says it failed to prove voter fraud in the presidential election.

Fred Eshelman sued Houston-based True the Vote Inc., which promised to “investigate, litigate and expose suspected illegal balloting ad fraud in the 2020 general election,” Bloomberg reported.

Eshelman, founder of Eshelman Ventures LLC, claimed that he “regularly and repeatedly” asked for updates on the initiative but was met with “vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises.”

True the Vote said its efforts included filing lawsuits in several swing states, collecting whistleblower complaints, increasing GOP legislative support in key states and conducting “sophisticated data modeling and statistical analysis to identify potential illegal or fraudulent balloting,” according to the suit in Houston federal court.

Eshelman decided to wire True the Vote $2 million on Nov. 5 and another $500,000 a week later after the group’s president said more money would be needed to achieve their goals, according to the suit. He asked for his money to be returned after the group failed to provide reports on its progress, saying it became obvious the group would not be able to execute its plan.

Eshelman said in the complaint that True the Vote offered him $1 million if he wouldn’t sue them, Bloomberg notes.

True the Vote filed four lawsuits in the weeks after the election, Bloomberg notes, but it dropped all of them last week. The suits were filed in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, all states that President-elect Joe Biden won.

President Trump and his allies have repeatedly alleged baseless claims of widespread voter fraud in the election, and his reelection campaign has mounted legal challenges in a handful of key battleground states seeking to challenge or overturn the results.

The campaign’s legal efforts have thus far been unsuccessful, and no evidence has emerged of any widespread issues that would have influenced the outcome of the election.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78809464


This is just an opportunist organisation milking this guy for funds. Nothing to do with the Trump team challenges.

I do think the blatant lying in the article where they say “base-less claims” , which is appalling given the two cases already submitted by Sidney. You cannot read them and come to the conclusion they are baseless.
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And then there is the grifter in chief's "Legal Defense Fund". Go ahead and send them some money.

As for Sidney Powell's batshit conspiracy theories, of course they are groundless. Loads of accusations and not one shred of real evidence in the court filings.

Love the part about how Cesar Chavez started it all, though. Dead men don't talk.

What a clown show.
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Man seems you guys never learn anything. So let me break it down for you.

Pennsylvania- Shaun Parnell’s lawsuit will get mail in voting disqualified since it was not constitutionally amended by public vote as defined By the states constitution.

Nevada- Biden’s lead is minimal and with the lawsuit pending it is likely his lead evaporates once fraudulent votes are tossed out.

Georgia- Biden’s lead is minimal and is likely to evaporate once the signature verification audit occurs.

Sydney Powell’s lawsuits are a distraction, some outlandish claims mixed with solid claims. The usual look over here while my buddy steals your lunch over there. Sadly this works every time on you dim witted democrats.
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A donor has sued a pro-Trump group for $2.5 million over “empty promises” after he says it failed to prove voter fraud in the presidential election.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78809464


They have no proof that Trump will have failed in the future. Zero evidence of Trump fail. Case dismissed.
 Quoting: President Erect


Read the story:

Eshelman, founder of Eshelman Ventures LLC, claimed that he “regularly and repeatedly” asked for updates on the initiative but was met with “vague responses, platitudes, and empty promises.”

And yes, more than 30 of Trump's cases have indeed already been dismissed for lack of evidence. The guy was suckered out of $2.5 million dollars and they can't even give him an update.

Sometimes I wonder if this whole Trump Legal Defense Fund is just another of his moneymaking scams.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79269359


For the record, Jenna Ellis tweeted this in response to all of the media who continues to report 30+ of Trumps lawsuits have failed.

This was the day after their presser, where she also made a pointed statement that there were only 3 cases filed. The rest were other independent groups unrelated to the Trump Campaign.

However, regardless of her statement, and this subsequent tweet, the msm continues to falsely state the 30+ number. I.e. fake news.

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lots of idiots and circle jerking marxists in this thread.

this entity "true the vote" isn't affiliated with trump.
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lots of idiots and circle jerking marxists in this thread.

this entity "true the vote" isn't affiliated with trump.
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Well get out your check book and send the grifter in chief more money.

He's broke.
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Statistics alone PROVE far beyond any reasonable doubt to a fair minded person that the election was stolen. Plus there is ample eyewitness testimony to every kind of fraud.

Difficulty is in getting the corrupt court system to listen to any evidence.

It was always going to be settled by the supreme court - not that the Dem's will ever accept such a ruling.

.................so it will be decided by the Military.
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I would correct you but it's more fun to watch you wallow in ignorance.
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lots of idiots and circle jerking marxists in this thread.

this entity "true the vote" isn't affiliated with trump.
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Well get out your check book and send the grifter in chief more money.

He's broke.
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you are intellectually bankrupt
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It is ELECTION FRAUD - NOT VOTER FRAUD !

And yes it has been Proven to the American People Grossly !

The Corruption is so in our faces that the Masses of Freedom loving Citizens will NEVER support Biden/Harris / Clinton !

EVER !





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