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Dear GLP,
I am a member that lurks but has not posted for a long time, mainly because of all the trolls and shills that seem to run wild on this board. However, the many decent and honest people here deserve to know this potentially lifesaving information, so hopefully, I remember how to post this.

I have been in health care for many years and I have been on the front lines of Covid-19 now many months. I am not here to debate if you think Covid is real or not (it is) or if you should wear a mask (only a good one, many are garbage) or if we should have lockdowns (no, it think we can effectively treat this and keep economies running as are many nations in the world are currently successfully doing). I am instead posting here for one purpose only, and that is to provide you with information that I believe is potentially able to save your health and possibly your life.

I am posting a link to this medical paper, now in pre-print, which reviews the worldwide data on the use of ivermectin and effectiveness of ivermectin in the prophylaxis and treatment of Covid-19.

[link to osf.io (secure)]

The institutions with authors involved in this paper include; St. Luke’s Medical Center in Milwaukee, WI., University of Tennessee Health Science Center, Memphis, TN., Hackensack School of Medicine, Seaton Hall, NJ., University of Texas Health Science Center, Houston, TX., Center for Balanced Health, New York, Volda Hospital, Volda, Norway, Princess Elizabeth Hospital, Guernsey, UK, Lung Center of America, Dayton Ohio, Eastern Virginia Medical School, Norfolk, VA.

If you don’t want to wade through the technical language posted below, the following video reviews and explains this paper in easily understood terms and is presented by Chris Martenson Ph.D. (not M.D.) I often think Ph.D.’s often do a better job of data analysis than do MDs. I am not sure how long this video will be available online for obvious reasons.



This paper, titled; “Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19” explains the following:
(The following is a less than 50% summary of the paper)

“Repeated, consistent, large magnitude improvements in clinical outcomes have now been reported when ivermectin is used not only as a prophylactic agent but also in mild, moderate, and even severe disease states from multiple, large, randomized, and observational controlled trials.

"Further, data showing impacts on population-wide health outcomes have resulted from multiple large “natural experiments” that appear to have occurred when various regional health ministries and governmental authorities within South American countries initiated “ivermectin distribution” campaigns to their citizen populations in the hopes the drug would prove effective."

"The tight, reproducible, temporally associated decreases in case counts and case fatality rates in each of those regions compared to nearby regions without such campaigns suggest that ivermectin is proving to be a global solution to the pandemic. This is now further evidenced by the recent incorporation of ivermectin as a prophylaxis and treatment agent for COVID19 in the national treatment guidelines of Egypt as well as the state of Uttar Pradesh in Northern India, populated by 210 million people.”

“Further compounding these alarming developments was a wave of recently published negative results from therapeutic trials done on medicines thought effective for COVID-19, that now virtually eliminate any treatment role for remdesivir, hydroxychloroquine, lopinavir/ritonavir, interferon, convalescent plasma, tocilizumab, and mono-clonal antibody therapy, particularly in later phases (12-17). One year into the pandemic, the only therapy considered “proven” as an effective treatment in COVID-19 is the use of corticosteroids in patients with moderate to severe illness (18)."

"Despite this growing list of failed therapeutics in COVID-19, it now appears that Ivermectin, a widely used anti-parasitic medicine with known anti-viral and anti-inflammatory properties is proving a highly potent and multi-phase effective treatment against COVID-19."

"Although much of the trials data supporting this conclusion is available on medical pre-print servers or posted on clinicaltrials.gov, most have not yet undergone peer-review. Despite this limitation, the FLCCC expert panel, in their prolonged and continued commitment to reviewing the emerging medical evidence base, and considering the impact of the recent surge, has now reached a consensus in recommending that Ivermectin for both prophylaxis and treatment of COVID-19 should be systematically and globally adopted.”

“The FLCCC recommendation is based on the following set of conclusions derived from the existing data, which will be comprehensively reviewed below:

1. Since 2012, multiple in-vitro studies have demonstrated that Ivermectin inhibits the replication of many viruses, including influenza, Zika, Dengue and others (19-27).

2. Ivermectin inhibits SARS-CoV-2 replication, leading to absence of nearly all viral material by 48h in infected cell cultures (28).

3. Ivermectin has potent anti-inflammatory properties with in-vitro data demonstrating profound inhibition of both cytokine production and transcription of nuclear factor-κB (NF-κB), the most potent mediator of inflammation (29-31).

4. Ivermectin significantly diminishes viral load and protects against organ damage in multiple animal models when infected with SARS-CoV-2 or similar coronaviruses (32, 33).

5. Ivermectin prevents transmission and development of COVID-19 disease in those exposed to infected patients (34-36,54).

6. Ivermectin hastens recovery and prevents deterioration in patients with mild to moderate disease treated early after symptoms (37-42,54).

7. Ivermectin hastens recovery and avoidance of ICU admission and death in hospitalized patients (40,43,45,54,63,67).

8. Ivermectin reduces mortality in critically ill patients with COVID-19(43,45,54).

9. Ivermectin leads to striking reductions in case-fatality rates in regions with widespread use (46-48).

10. The safety, availability, and cost of ivermectin is nearly unparalleled given its near nil drug interactions along with only mild and rare side effects observed in almost 40 years of use and billions of doses administered (49). 11)

11. The World Health Organization has long included ivermectin on its “List of Essential Medicines” (50).

I am providing this link to the full paper discussed in this video.

[link to osf.io (secure)]

Click on “download preprint” to save and print a copy of this article.

I would also encourage you to save and print a copy of the Math+ protocol from Eastern Virginia Medical School and that link is provided below.

I would encourage you to print this paper and the Math + protocol and take it to your health care provider if you or a loved one has Covid or has been exposed to it, or is in health care and is constantly exposed.
If a health care provider refuses to honestly discuss this information with you, my advice is to find one that will. If your health care provider refuses to look at the science presented in this paper, he or she has a closed mind to everything except pharmaceutical and government propaganda.

Background for the Link to Eastern Virginia Medical School Math+ Covid 19 protocols:

“In March 2020, an expert panel called the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) was created and led by Professor Paul E. Marik. The group of expert critical care physicians and thought leaders immediately began continuously reviewing the rapidly emerging basic science, translational, and clinical data in COVID-19 which then led to the early creation of a treatment protocol for hospitalized patients called MATH+, based on the collective expertise of the group in both the research and treatment of multiple other severe infections causing lung injury.”

The most recent paper, currently in production, reports a 6.1% hospital mortality rate in COVID-19 patients measured in the two U.S hospitals that systematically adopted the MATH+ protocol, a markedly decreased mortality rate compared to the 23.9% hospital mortality rate calculated from a review of 39 studies including over 165,000 patients .”

“Despite the plethora of supportive evidence, the MATH+ protocol for hospitalized patients has not yet become widespread. Further, the world is in a worsening crisis with the potential of again overwhelming hospitals and ICU’s. As of November 10th, 2020, the number of deaths attributed to COVID-19 in the United States reached 245,799 with over 3.7 million active cases, the highest number to date. Multiple European countries have now begun to impose new rounds of restrictions and lockdowns.”

Math+ protocol for prophylaxis and early treatment:

1. Prophylaxis
Vitamin C 500 mg BID (twice daily) and Quercetin 250 mg daily
Vitamin D3 1000-4000 u/day
B complex vitamins
Zinc 30-50 mg/day
Melatonin (slow release): Begin with 0.3mg and increase as tolerated to 2 mg at night

Ivermectin for post exposure prophylaxis (200 ug/kg immediately, then repeat on day 3) and prophylaxis in high-risk groups (200 ug/kg day 1, then day 3 and then every 4 weeks)


2. Mildly Symptomatic patients (at home):

Ivermectin 150-200 ug/kg daily for two doses
Vitamin C 500mg BID and Quercetin 250-500 mg BID
Vitamin D3 2000 - 4000 u/day
B complex vitamins
Zinc 75-100 mg/day
Melatonin 6-10 mg at night (the optimal dose is unknown)
ASA aspirin 81-325 mg/day (unless contraindicated)
In symptomatic patients, monitoring with home pulse oximetry is recommended.
Ambulatory desaturation below 94% should prompt hospital admission

The full Math+ protocol link:

[link to www.evms.edu (secure)]

Links to Eastern Virginia Medical School:

[link to www.evms.edu (secure)]
[link to www.evms.edu (secure)]

As always, I am not providing medical advice. I am providing information and material for you to discuss with your health care provider as we all navigate this pandemic. I personally believe that corruption and greed have played a huge role in what we are experiencing today. If it were up to me, I would personally fire Anthony Fauci and the entire NIH board for what I believe to be collusion with Gilead Sciences (the manufacture of remdesivir) for profiting from human suffering by pushing an expensive and now proven to be ineffective drug (remdesivir) while ignoring worldwide evidence for more effective treatment options.

All of the above is my personal opinion and goes beyond the scope of my current discussion, I would encourage you to also do your own research and draw your own conclusions.


Good luck and much love to GLP.

We must continue to be brave and fight political corruption, fraudulent elections, and medicine that is often controlled by pharmaceutical company profits and other potentially nefarious interests.

This includes the risk of rushing into what I believe has, to date, been poorly tested vaccine options. This has only been allowed to be rushed into at this point because of a lack of any treatment options for Covid 19 that are considered to be effective. If ivermectin is recognized as an effective treatment, which many credible people believe it is, then there cannot be a rush (without more stringent safety testing) in the production of what I believe to be potentially dangerous and poorly tested vaccines to be possibly forced on populations, such as our military.

I also believe this is the bottom line and I believe that not only is there credible evidence for a well-coordinated effort to take away what little freedom we have left, but potentially also our long-term health.
If I don’t respond today or tomorrow, it is not because I am a “hit and run poster” but because I am working today and tomorrow and probably became busy.

hfhfhf

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So who the hell promotes a vaccine when an effective one does not exist?
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So who the hell promotes a vaccine when an effective one does not exist?
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Credible worldwide medical and scientific studies are currently being ignored to pursue the vaccination agendas. The only way we can fight against this is with knowledge. Shared knowledge is powerful!
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So who the hell promotes a vaccine when an effective one does not exist?
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Credible worldwide medical and scientific studies are currently being ignored to pursue the vaccination agendas. The only way we can fight against this is with knowledge. Shared knowledge is powerful!
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You are right and that is fucked up -excuse the French.
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Prophylaxis sounds mostly straightforward with all normal vitamin components. Have you seen Quercetin to have any major contraindications?
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This is critical information! If you have, or have been exposed to the China virus, see your doctor and ask about Ivermectin. Print the studies referenced above and take them with you. If your doctor won't read them, or still won't prescribe it, find a new doctor.
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Prophylaxis sounds mostly straightforward with all normal vitamin components. Have you seen Quercetin to have any major contraindications?
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I have personally used quercetin and I have not seen or had any of the milder side effects reported such as headache or tingling in the arms or legs. As with most products it has not been studied in pregnancy, so that would be a possible contraindication, although there is a list of many foods that naturally contain quercetin on this site.

[link to www.webmd.com (secure)]

Quercetin is known to have antiviral properties

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

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More about quercetin

[link to www.frontiersin.org (secure)]

"Quercetin is a well-known flavonoid whose antiviral properties have been investigated in numerous studies. There is evidence that vitamin C and quercetin co-administration exerts a synergistic antiviral action due to overlapping antiviral and immunomodulatory properties and the capacity of ascorbate to recycle quercetin, increasing its efficacy. Safe, cheap interventions which have a sound biological rationale should be prioritized for experimental use in the current context of a global health pandemic. We present the current evidence for the use of vitamin C and quercetin both for prophylaxis in high-risk populations and for the treatment of COVID-19 patients as an adjunct to promising pharmacological agents such as Remdesivir or convalescent plasma."
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So who the hell promotes a vaccine when an effective one does not exist?
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Big pharma spends millions of dollars every year lobbying Congress to prevent doctors from getting information on treatments that don't make drug companies rich.

You don't need a vaccine for a virus that is easily controlled with inexpensive and effective drugs. Big pharma would rather see you spend thousands of dollars on a completely ineffective drug like Remdisevir.
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So who the hell promotes a vaccine when an effective one does not exist?
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Big pharma spends millions of dollars every year lobbying Congress to prevent doctors from getting information on treatments that don't make drug companies rich.

You don't need a vaccine for a virus that is easily controlled with inexpensive and effective drugs. Big pharma would rather see you spend thousands of dollars on a completely ineffective drug like Remdisevir.
 Quoting: Epic Beard Guy


Correct
Remdesivir was costing in the neighborhood of $3,000 per dose, and ivermectin is a few dollars per dose (or less in some countries). Ivermectin was FDA approved in the 1970s. It has been safely used worldwide since then with remarkably low side effects, with fewer safety concerns than Remdesivir.

"There are few drugs that can seriously lay claim to the title of ‘Wonder drug’, penicillin and aspirin being two that have perhaps had greatest beneficial impact on the health and wellbeing of Mankind. But ivermectin can also be considered alongside those worthy contenders, based on its versatility, safety and the beneficial impact that it has had, and continues to have, worldwide—especially on hundreds of millions of the world’s poorest people."

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thank you OP
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Thanks,
I just want to get this information to as many people as possible!

We don't need to be headed into pens and vaccinated like animals. We should have choices!!!

There is now credible worldwide scientific evidence that ivermectin which has been used worldwide since the 1970s
effectively works for both treatment and prophylaxis of Covid 19.


We don't have to destroy economies by unnecessary lockdowns.
We don't need to rush vaccines into production and distribution, we have an effective alternative treatment!!!


We've had it all along. I have been following this for months now, and we now have it published by a group of very honest and courageous doctors in the US and Europe !!!!!!!!

It has been published by doctors in other countries for months now!!! The problem is, that in the USA and Europe, doctors can be muzzled more easily.

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A few days ago I came down with stuffy plugged up ear ache, sore throat, blistery mouth, fever sweats and chills, like a sinus stuffy head ache, pasty skin, puffy eyes with dark circles, tightness in the chest, some indigestion. No runny nose.

Is this a common cold bug? I was only exposed to one other person over the holiday but came down with a bug a week later. I am already using the stuff you posted in addition to lysine, green tea, raw honey and a few others things.
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I thought about posting this to the big thread on Covid, but I was worried it would get lost, but I think I will do that also.

I would like to put this information into the hands of as many non-medical people as possible.

Everyone needs to realize that their options now include both safe and affordable prophylaxis and treatment for Covid.

I already have sent this article to many fellow health care providers.

Many of us are aware of the use of ivermectin in many other countries, but our states have threatened us if we prescribe outside of the NIH guidelines, so many are afraid to do so.


This article now provides better backing for health care providers in the US and Europe to do what what the rest of the world has been doing to cope much more effectively with covid than we have been doing.

The hysteria and draconian measures can be stopped!!!
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Thanks OP fantastic post, much appreciated, hope everyone sees it.
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A few days ago I came down with stuffy plugged up ear ache, sore throat, blistery mouth, fever sweats and chills, like a sinus stuffy head ache, pasty skin, puffy eyes with dark circles, tightness in the chest, some indigestion. No runny nose.

Is this a common cold bug? I was only exposed to one other person over the holiday but came down with a bug a week later. I am already using the stuff you posted in addition to lysine, green tea, raw honey and a few others things.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79723142


I can't legitimately diagnose or treat online outside of a virtual medical appointment. However, If you are following the Math+ protocols for prophylaxis from Eastern Virginia Medical School that is awesome!

I would recommend that you see a health care provider in your area. Print both the Ivermectin article and the Math+ protocols and take those with you. In many states, you can also have a test for Covid on your own. If you do test positive or are diagnosed, I would discuss with your health care provider the Ivermectin protocols described both in the article and on the Math+ protocol.

Good luck and I hope you feel better soon.

Ivermectin article:
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Math+ protocols from EVMS
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Thanks OP fantastic post, much appreciated, hope everyone sees it.
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Thanks, I am trying to put this information into the hands of as many people as possible. People are often intimidated by folks in long white coats and may be afraid to ask questions about their options.

Everyone needs to realize that ivermectin is a well studied, safe, and effective option for both treatment and prophylaxis if exposed to or diagnosed with Covid 19.

It has shown a positive effect across the board in all phases of the disease from prevention to critical illness.

Some health care workers know about this, but many do not.

It is not being discussed by the NIH or the WHO, so those who know about it are those who keep digging for a better solution and are following worldwide data.

You cannot risk having your health care provider NOT know about this paper, or other published and pre-published literature so I am trying to put the information in YOUR hands.

This really is CRITICAL information for everyone in the world
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Prophylaxis sounds mostly straightforward with all normal vitamin components. Have you seen Quercetin to have any major contraindications?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860232


I have personally used quercetin and I have not seen or had any of the milder side effects reported such as headache or tingling in the arms or legs. As with most products it has not been studied in pregnancy, so that would be a possible contraindication, although there is a list of many foods that naturally contain quercetin on this site.

[link to www.webmd.com (secure)]

Quercetin is known to have antiviral properties

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: emerald eye


Thank you!
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Prophylaxis sounds mostly straightforward with all normal vitamin components. Have you seen Quercetin to have any major contraindications?
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I have personally used quercetin and I have not seen or had any of the milder side effects reported such as headache or tingling in the arms or legs. As with most products it has not been studied in pregnancy, so that would be a possible contraindication, although there is a list of many foods that naturally contain quercetin on this site.

[link to www.webmd.com (secure)]

Quercetin is known to have antiviral properties

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: emerald eye


Thank you!
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You are most welcome!!
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Thanks Emerald Eye

I believe Ivermectin is truly importsnt in a regimen against COVID

But

“Discuss this with a medical professional??!

No chance

My previous doc wouldn’t even discuss the possibility of not taking all the tests and vaccines he could name

We switched

We stay away from docs

The new one sent out colon cancer screening tests

Unsolicited

Has the offices sent letters about that and mammogram x rays and flu shots

It’s all a racket to make money

Nobody gives a crap whether we live or die

Haven’t felt
Like
I had a caring doctor for decades
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COVIS DOES NOT EXIST! THIS THREAD IS A SHILL ATTACK! BEWARE!
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Thread: Ivermectin protects against Covid19 and successfully cures it. Safer than a vaccine. Updates

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5 stars OP.....good to see you back again! hf
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corrupt Nazis
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Thanks Emerald Eye

I believe Ivermectin is truly importsnt in a regimen against COVID

But

“Discuss this with a medical professional??!

No chance

My previous doc wouldn’t even discuss the possibility of not taking all the tests and vaccines he could name

We switched

We stay away from docs

The new one sent out colon cancer screening tests

Unsolicited

Has the offices sent letters about that and mammogram x rays and flu shots

It’s all a racket to make money

Nobody gives a crap whether we live or die

Haven’t felt
Like
I had a caring doctor for decades
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Your post makes me feel really sad, and I am sorry that you have not had good experiences with health care providers.

Most of us went into health care because we truly want to help people, but some get lost in "cookbook" medicine without trying to relate to the patient's needs and
individual preferences.

I don't know where you live, but you might try looking for a new healthcare provider who is more sensitive to your input. Sometimes nurse practitioners are more open to considering your input when making recommendations.

Good health care should always be a choice and involve a collaboration rather than an order, which is one of the reasons I am against mandatory vaccinations.

This is one of the reasons I decided to speak out about the current situation that seems to be purposely steering us into mandatory vaccines that in my opinion, have not yet been adequately tested.
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while fear is the obstruction of all dreams.


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Thanks Emerald Eye

I believe Ivermectin is truly importsnt in a regimen against COVID

But

“Discuss this with a medical professional??!

No chance

My previous doc wouldn’t even discuss the possibility of not taking all the tests and vaccines he could name

We switched

We stay away from docs

The new one sent out colon cancer screening tests

Unsolicited

Has the offices sent letters about that and mammogram x rays and flu shots

It’s all a racket to make money

Nobody gives a crap whether we live or die

Haven’t felt
Like
I had a caring doctor for decades
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79359650



Your post makes me feel really sad, and I am sorry that you have not had good experiences with health care providers.

Most of us went into health care because we truly want to help people, but some get lost in "cookbook" medicine without trying to relate to the patient's needs and
individual preferences.

I don't know where you live, but you might try looking for a new healthcare provider who is more sensitive to your input. Sometimes nurse practitioners are more open to considering your input when making recommendations.

Good health care should always be a choice and involve a collaboration rather than an order, which is one of the reasons I am against mandatory vaccinations.

This is one of the reasons I decided to speak out about the current situation that seems to be purposely steering us into mandatory vaccines that in my opinion, have not yet been adequately tested.
Courage forges a path through all obstacles,
while fear is the obstruction of all dreams.


The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing.
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Hmmm, it has a 99.9% survivability rate....I'll need fine.
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Thanks, this topic is so critical, I don't think GLP can have too many threads on this.

I will try to contribute to that thread as well as my own but have to read through to catch up a bit.

The focus of my thread today is to provide the medical paper that people can take to a health care provider and have an honest discussion about ivermectin.

Ivermectin is extremely safe, however, there are a few contraindications as with any effective medication. Pregnancy may be one of them. Also, alcoholism and medical conditions that prevent the blood brain barrier from effectively working may also be included. That is why it is necessary to have a discussion with a health care provider before starting any treatment.

That being said, it is an effective prophylaxis and treatment for most healthy,non-pregnant adults, as evidenced by its massive use throughout the world since the 1970s. (It has sometimes been used in pregnancy, but there are cautions.)

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

That being said, I hope I have given people some ammunition with this paper and Eastern Virginia Medical School's Math+ to begin the discussion with their own health care providers.

I also think it is so important for people to know that this information is being ignored at least, to date, by the NIH.
I could no longer stay silent.

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Still a mystery.


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So who the hell promotes a vaccine when an effective one does not exist?
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Big pharma spends millions of dollars every year lobbying Congress to prevent doctors from getting information on treatments that don't make drug companies rich.

You don't need a vaccine for a virus that is easily controlled with inexpensive and effective drugs. Big pharma would rather see you spend thousands of dollars on a completely ineffective drug like Remdisevir.
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Correct
Remdesivir was costing in the neighborhood of $3,000 per dose, and ivermectin is a few dollars per dose (or less in some countries). Ivermectin was FDA approved in the 1970s. It has been safely used worldwide since then with remarkably low side effects, with fewer safety concerns than Remdesivir.

"There are few drugs that can seriously lay claim to the title of ‘Wonder drug’, penicillin and aspirin being two that have perhaps had greatest beneficial impact on the health and wellbeing of Mankind. But ivermectin can also be considered alongside those worthy contenders, based on its versatility, safety and the beneficial impact that it has had, and continues to have, worldwide—especially on hundreds of millions of the world’s poorest people."

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]

[link to www.cidrap.umn.edu (secure)]
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We ae all on the same page.





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