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Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.

 
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Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.
I didn't realize this, but there is a way for SCOTUS to rule in favor of Texas in the suit vs PA, GA, WI, and MI and yet Biden would still win the election. If SCOTUS declares that the electors from those four state are voided and shall not be seated, Biden would still with the majority of those electors that are seated. It would be less then 270, but still more then Trump and the majority of the electors voting.

From Article 2 Section 1:

The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed;



The only time the House gets to pick is if no candidate receives a MAJORITY of the seated electors.

and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representatives from each State having one Vote


So Trump can only win if SCOTUS rules that the state legislators in the State House pick new Electors.
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Re: Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.
Biden has 0 paths to victory. Biden is not an option and never will be an option. The best case scenario for Biden is to be in an old folks home in 2021 rather than a prison cell.
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Re: Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.
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Re: Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.
I didn't realize this, but there is a way for SCOTUS to rule in favor of Texas in the suit vs PA, GA, WI, and MI and yet Biden would still win the election. If SCOTUS declares that the electors from those four state are voided and shall not be seated, Biden would still with the majority of those electors that are seated. It would be less then 270, but still more then Trump and the majority of the electors voting.

From Article 2 Section 1:

The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed;



The only time the House gets to pick is if no candidate receives a MAJORITY of the seated electors.

and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representatives from each State having one Vote


So Trump can only win if SCOTUS rules that the state legislators in the State House pick new Electors.
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I'm pretty sure majority means at least 270, thats what makes that number special.

Last Edited by luxor on 12/11/2020 03:32 PM
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Re: Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.
I didn't realize this, but there is a way for SCOTUS to rule in favor of Texas in the suit vs PA, GA, WI, and MI and yet Biden would still win the election. If SCOTUS declares that the electors from those four state are voided and shall not be seated, Biden would still with the majority of those electors that are seated. It would be less then 270, but still more then Trump and the majority of the electors voting.

From Article 2 Section 1:

The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed;



The only time the House gets to pick is if no candidate receives a MAJORITY of the seated electors.

and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representatives from each State having one Vote


So Trump can only win if SCOTUS rules that the state legislators in the State House pick new Electors.
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I'm pretty sure majority means at least 270, thats what makes that number special.
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Actually no, 270 is just the majority if ALL the states are seated. Heard a Constitutional Law expert on The Patriot state this and came home to look it up.

SCOTUS must let the State Legislators pick new electors or we are still fucked.
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Re: Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.
I didn't realize this, but there is a way for SCOTUS to rule in favor of Texas in the suit vs PA, GA, WI, and MI and yet Biden would still win the election. If SCOTUS declares that the electors from those four state are voided and shall not be seated, Biden would still with the majority of those electors that are seated. It would be less then 270, but still more then Trump and the majority of the electors voting.

From Article 2 Section 1:

The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed;



The only time the House gets to pick is if no candidate receives a MAJORITY of the seated electors.

and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representatives from each State having one Vote


So Trump can only win if SCOTUS rules that the state legislators in the State House pick new Electors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71475833


I'm pretty sure majority means at least 270, thats what makes that number special.
 Quoting: luxor



Actually no, 270 is just the majority if ALL the states are seated. Heard a Constitutional Law expert on The Patriot state this and came home to look it up.

SCOTUS must let the State Legislators pick new electors or we are still fucked.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71475833


I highly doubt the SCOTUS will remove the ability for the legislatures to cast electoral votes. A shitstorm would ensue. Whatever SCOTUS does, it won't be final on the election by any stretch, ie they will not determine the election, unless of course they deny the case.

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Re: Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.
I didn't realize this, but there is a way for SCOTUS to rule in favor of Texas in the suit vs PA, GA, WI, and MI and yet Biden would still win the election. If SCOTUS declares that the electors from those four state are voided and shall not be seated, Biden would still with the majority of those electors that are seated. It would be less then 270, but still more then Trump and the majority of the electors voting.

From Article 2 Section 1:

The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed;



The only time the House gets to pick is if no candidate receives a MAJORITY of the seated electors.

and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representatives from each State having one Vote


So Trump can only win if SCOTUS rules that the state legislators in the State House pick new Electors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71475833


So here's the deal.

I'm going to level with you here.

This stopped being about the law and legal Elections a long time ago.

Sides have been taken lines have been drawn and no matter how Scotus rules, there WILL BE CONFLICT.

As someone who loves this country more than his own life, I can tell you that I've already made a non-negotiable decision that Biden will never be my president much less THE PRESIDENT.

There are people on the other side who have made the same decision about Trump...

The people who are still holding onto hope that the courts will sort this out and there will be peace are lying to themselves out of fear or selfishness.

It is past that point.

We are in serious trouble here and the left has not come anywhere close to showing it's hand, but one would have to be extremely foolish to believe that they don't have very nasty tricks up their sleeves based on the malevolent and unholy confidence they are showing us...

They're not stupid enough to bluff this hard, and quite frankly the United States has more than enough people nations and etc worldwide that have a very strong interest in tearing us down for a variety of reasons.

This equates to the left having an ample supply of allies funding and outside support to do whatever they're planning to do.

Make no mistake, we as people and this nation most of us love are in a level of peril that is entirely unprecedented.

I wish each and every one of you good luck and sincerely hope that there are enough true Americans left who love this country and what it stands for to make us able to weather the storm that is upon us ...

But make no mistake, what is coming will not be EASY and our victory is far from assured!!

This nation needs heroes right now desperately, and that means that many of us will need to step up and be the great men and women that we're afraid we're not capable of being.

But there's no one else who is going to shoulder this burden for us.

It is on each and every one of us to shoulder this burden now, no cavalry is going to ride in at the last second to rescue us.

We are the cavalry.
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Re: Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.
You're taking something out of context completely.


IF there are less than 270, in the House, the entire election is null and voided and the House Votes newly, one vote per state. 50 votes. Thats a fact jack.

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Re: Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.
You're taking something out of context completely.


IF there are less than 270, in the House, the entire election is null and voided and the House Votes newly, one vote per state. 50 votes. Thats a fact jack.
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@Sungaze

Seriously, you are wrong. There is no magical 270 number. I thought the same as you. Too many people are ignorant of election law.


The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representatives from each State having one Vote; a quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice-President.
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Re: Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.
Biden can always play President in the Oval Office replica Hillary built in her NY home. I hear Slick Willie is growing tired of humoring "President Hillary" and welcomes new leadership.
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Re: Even with SCOTUS ruling in favor of Texas, Biden can still win.
OP and then maybe you can hold your breath until your face turns blue as Trump gets sworn in a second time.





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