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(OP) User ID: 71008581 United States 12/18/2020 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | CALIFORNIA’S ELECTORAL COLLEGE DELEGATES MAY BE INVALID. SUMMARY: California law states that if voter’s ballots are missing paragraph(s), they CANNOT BE CAST OR COUNTED. This because ballots are missing a legal paragraph(s) as required by new California law. (This broke a few hours ago. Around 1:45 (PST) 12/17/2020) California violated its own election laws By Daniel Bobinski 12/17/2020 [Excerpts] In California state law, the election code is titled “Division 13. BALLOTS, SAMPLE BALLOTS, AND VOTER PAMPHLETS.” In Article 1 of this code we find Election Code 13200, which reads as follows: “Ballots not printed in accordance with the chapter [Chapter 3] shall not be cast nor counted at any election.” That’s straightforward English. It’s at the 9th grade reading level, so assuming California’s election officials can understand it, her it is one more time, with emphasis: “Ballots not printed in accordance with the chapter [Chapter 3] shall not be cast nor counted at any election.” When we read a little further, we find Section 13205. Since we’re talking about the election of the President and Vice President, we’ll look at the applicable subsection: 13205 (b). In elections when electors of President and Vice President of the United States are to be chosen, there shall be placed upon the ballot, in addition to the instructions to voters as provided in this chapter, an instruction as follows: “To vote for all of the electors of a party, mark the voting target next to the names of the presidential and vice presidential candidates of that party. A mark of the voting target next to the name of a party and its presidential and vice presidential candidate, is a vote for all of the electors of that party, but for no other candidates.” 📷 This Napa County ballot is missing required text from Section 13205 (b). California code 13244 states sample ballots must match actual ballots, including instructions. In other words, by California law, the paragraph quoted was supposed to appear on all California ballots. And remember, according to Section 13200, “Ballots not printed in accordance with the chapter [Chapter 3] shall not be cast nor counted at any election.” And guess what? According to data collected by the American Independent Party in California, those words did not appear on ballots in 53 of California’s 58 counties. In the remaining five counties, ballots required additional wording that is outlined in California Election Code 12305 (c) [Typo: 13205 (c)]. Some of those county’s ballots included the wording from section (b), but ballots in all five of those counties were still missing the required wording from section (c). --- End excerpts from the below article. ----- [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)] CONFIRMATION: Going directly to the California Legislature’s Published Statutes: [link to leginfo.legislature.ca.gov (secure)] [CALIFORNIA] Elections Code - ELEC DIVISION 13. BALLOTS, SAMPLE BALLOTS, AND VOTER PAMPHLETS [13000 - 13502] ( Division 13 enacted by Stats. 1994, Ch. 920, Sec. 2. ) CHAPTER 3. Ballot Printing Specifications [13200 - 13282] ( Chapter 3 enacted by Stats. 1994, Ch. 920, Sec. 2. ) ARTICLE 1. General Provisions [13200 - 13220] ( Article 1 enacted by Stats. 1994, Ch. 920, Sec. 2. ) 13200. Ballots not printed in accordance with this chapter shall not be cast nor counted at any election. (Enacted by Stats. 1994, Ch. 920, Sec. 2.) 13205. Additional instructions to voters shall appear on the ballot prior to those provided for in Section 13204 under the following conditions: (a) In a primary election at which candidates for delegate to national convention are to be voted upon, the instructions shall read: “To vote for the group of candidates preferring a person whose name appears on the ballot, mark the voting target next to the name of the person preferred. To vote for a group of candidates not expressing a preference for a particular candidate, mark the voting target next to the name of the chairman of the group.” (b) In elections when electors of President and Vice President of the United States are to be chosen, there shall be placed upon the ballot, in addition to the instructions to voters as provided in this chapter, an instruction as follows: “To vote for all of the electors of a party, mark the voting target next to the names of the presidential and vice presidential candidates of that party. A mark of the voting target next to the name of a party and its presidential and vice presidential candidate, is a vote for all of the electors of that party, but for no other candidates.” (c) If a group of candidates for electors has been nominated under Chapter 3 (commencing with Section 8400) of Division 8, and has under Chapter 1 (commencing at Section 8300) of Division 8 designated the names of the candidates for President and Vice President of the United States for whom those candidates have pledged themselves to vote, the instructions to voters shall also contain the following: “To vote for those electors who have pledged themselves to vote for a candidate for President and Vice President not supported by any particular party mark the voting target next to the names of those presidential and vice presidential candidates.” (d) If a group of candidates for electors has been nominated by a party not qualified to participate in the election, the instructions to voters shall also contain the following: “To vote for those electors who have pledged themselves to vote for a candidate for President and for Vice President of any party not qualified to participate in the election write in the names and party of those presidential and vice presidential candidates in the blank space provided for that purpose.” (Amended by Stats. 2019, Ch. 863, Sec. 8. (AB 623) Effective January 1, 2020.) --- END OF STATUTES --- DFS COMMENTS: On election day (11/03/2020), I took a digital photo of my ballot here in Siskiyou County, California. I examined the photo, and it contained the paragraphs required in §§13206(a)(1) “PARTY NOMINATED OFFICES” & (a)(2) “VOTER-NOMINATED AND NONPARTISAN OFFICES”. It DID NOT contain the paragraphs of §§13205(b), (c), or (d). The document “VOTING INSTRUCTIONS FOR VOTING BY MAIL – Please read BEFORE voting” did not contain the paragraphs of §13205(b), (c), or (d). The Sample Ballot did not contain the paragraphs of §13205(b), (c), or (d). This new law, requiring the text of §§13205(b), (c), and/or (d) was from AB623 and took effect on January 1st, 2020. The California legislature is in strong control by the Democrats. DFS – 12/17/2020 Come quickly Lord Jesus. Maranatha |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76053237 Canada 12/18/2020 12:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soooo sorry for the fb link. I rarely go there unless I get a neighborhood alert. Quoting: Tamaralori A paragraph was missing on nearly all California ballots so they will not be counted "possibly". [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] Is there another link to this? To share on Twitter |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76053237 Canada 12/18/2020 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soooo sorry for the fb link. I rarely go there unless I get a neighborhood alert. Quoting: Tamaralori A paragraph was missing on nearly all California ballots so they will not be counted "possibly". [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] Is there another link to this? To share on Twitter Were you aware that 53/58 California county’s ballots were ineligible due to missing REQUIRED information? [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)] |
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Tamaralori
(OP) User ID: 71008581 United States 12/18/2020 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Soooo sorry for the fb link. I rarely go there unless I get a neighborhood alert. Quoting: Tamaralori A paragraph was missing on nearly all California ballots so they will not be counted "possibly". [link to www.facebook.com (secure)] Is there another link to this? To share on Twitter Were you aware that 53/58 California county’s ballots were ineligible due to missing REQUIRED information? [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)] Thank you! Come quickly Lord Jesus. Maranatha |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76053237 Canada 12/18/2020 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I sent this to Rudy Giuliani and Lin Wood via email, and to them and many others on Twitter as replies. Gorka, Fitton, Prosobiec, Jim Jordan, Donald Jr, Levin, OANN, Sara Carter... hope it takes off. And, by the way, TECHNICALITIES DO COUNT. Please, everyone, DO THE SAME! |
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V A R U N A S T R A
User ID: 79779943 Germany 12/18/2020 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So much going on with this. ~ Ad astra audacter eamus in alis fidelium ~ "Then the lion shall lie down with the lamb and the bear shall eat grass like the ox and the child shall play on the hole of the asp and nothing shall hurt nor destroy in all My Holy Mountain." [Isaiah 11:6] ~ A R K |
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User ID: 79603212 United States 12/18/2020 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even if true, no-one's going to scrap the results over a mere technicality. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74989058 Isn't that how Obama became Senator? Over a mere technicality? Funny how this shit only works for one side. It's just a bad day, not a bad life. If you run, I will run, until my last breath. |
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