The Rapture - Escaping the Coming Judgement.

So the testimony of millions of people who have come to the Lord means nothing to you?

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1Th 4:16  For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 
1Th 4:17  Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord

The dead in Christ were the Old Testament saints. There is no rapture.

This. Either way, you are ready.

It's very sad really, you quote the revenant passage...And then go and add your own private interpretation to it, which makes about as much sense as using a corkscrew for a ruler.

It's in God's hands now.

And I'm OK with that.

Will God save the Republic?

Or has America been given over to Satan and his minions?

If you value this nation and liberty, fast & pray like there's no tomorrow for God to save it.

Otherwise, get ready for the coming Mark of the Beast and the End-Times global disaster called the Great Tribulation.

But there is still hope! Maranatha!

how about legalizing homosexuality [after revealed j e hoover fbi director was a ***] 1969

legalizing abortion as a condoning of pleasure without cost

revoking the death penalty [the wages of sin is death/real-death]

legalizing perversion of all kinds

not so long ago 50 yrs
the bible laws and laws of land were the same in the west

Well in this thread’s case, a saviour to save them from earthly tribulation by some magical rapture carpet ride.

There is no time, all is now.

Going “where”?

Have you ever met the guy?

I’m far more impressed by how people actually conduct their lives.

Confessions of faith and testimony mean very little to me when one’s actions run contrary to said “faith”

For example, I know atheists who are kinder than many church-going Christians I’ve encountered.

It's a process (hopefully) of continuous improvement. Basically we start at where we where before we came to the Lord, and today we are a little better than we where yesterday, at least I think it's like that for most people, along with some wondering off the straight and narrow path, alas.

It may well be that some atheists are kinder than many church-going Christians, but if they die in their sins then I'm afraid that they will be going to hell. If you don't like it please remember that Jesus Christ and G-d created the entire universe and have offered you a chance of salvation, but the terms and conditions are the same for everyone.

Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

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Escaping the coming judgement, No. Being divinely protected during the coming judgment like Noah and the Hebrews in Egypt, Yes. There is no pre-Trib rapture and 75% of the country calls themselves Christians, Voted in Obama and Biden thus prepare for very difficult times. The sheep and the goats are about to be separated.

Escaping by being divinely protected is how it has been explained to me.
Last year I separated from all popular teachings and asked Jesus to teach me.
To obey Jesus on the Narrow Way by FOLLWING HIM.
Listening for His voice.
"My sheep hear My voice and they follow Me."

I wanted to KNOW the truth about the rapture.

I followed the Holy Spirit's leading and waited (a long time) for the Spirit of Truth to give me wisdom about these rapture teachers and preachers.

I unsubbed from each youtube channel when The Spirit of Truth would reveal to me - a lie - they spoke.
My EYES were OPENED.
They lie. If you follow a teacher who lies.. then you follow a liar.

Last year there was a huge amount of rapture seekers because of the virus fears. An explosion of OSAS or grace/faith youtube channels (teaching lies) posted the dreams of dreamers who were raptured.
Dreams and visions that led many astray.

Beware of false doctrines, wolves, false shepherds and anyone giving you an easy way to heaven.

The Broad Way - The EASY Way - is the road that leads to destruction. That road is filled with these OSAS easy ABC gospel believers. They say a prayer and then wait for rapture. It is a trick.
They actually BELIEVE THIS: To be raptured away (in their sins) and then, to "have a blast and party at the fun table in heaven" is the basic belief.

You cannot argue with them. Even Jesus' Words do not get through to them. They are in a delusion.

They love the rapture but do not obey and love Jesus.
Jesus said, "If you LOVE ME then OBEY My commandments."
They don't KNOW Jesus!
They do not LOVE Jesus... or know Him.

Jesus said, "Depart from Me. I do not know you."

They don't walk with Him daily by following Him and asking the Holy Spirit to guide them. They live their lives practically the same as before they said that ABC prayer.
Calling themselves, "Saved Sinners".

Sinners do not enter the Kingdom of Heaven.
They have been tricked into believing that the grace of Jesus 'covers' them so, they live any way that they want.
They watch Utube vids and argue.

They missed finding Jesus when He was waiting for them to come and follow Him.

To LOVE JESUS is to obey what He said.
To obey Jesus' Words means to repent, deny yourself - separate from the world - to bring every thought into captivity etc. etc.
Read Jesus Words. See what He says!

The OSAS do not do this. They argue. They yell. They believe the lie that was taught to them. Twisted doctrines given by wolves in sheep clothing.

Ask Jesus to tell you when the rapture happens *and who goes* in the rapture.
ASK THE GOD WHO CREATED YOU what is the Truth.

Jesus is the WAY TRUTH LIFE
Follow Him. Obey His Words.

You sound like a witch to me.

The problem with saviour religions is that people don’t really work on self improvement, why bother with the hard stuff when they can just pray for forgiveness, get confessed by a priest, pay a tribute, etc.

There is a passage in your bible about god writing his commandments on the heart, and when I observe non-Christian people already following the precepts of Jesus (love your neighbour as you love yourself) I think they are already “saved”, regardless if they have spoken the magic sinner’s repentance prayer or not.

They are not going to hell either, they will end up where their heart resonates, and that goes for the religious folks who live awful lives too.

What I mean by this is that if someone spends a lot of thought and emotional energy thinking about hell, demons, damnation, fear, etc., they might just end up in an afterlife realm that reflects this. Conversely, if one sets their heart and mind on loving and serving others, that is the afterlife realm in which they will find themselves, regardless of religious beliefs.

No the problem is with you, you've been told the truth and you are in the process of rejecting it, and at the same time trying to justify that decision to yourself as an entirely reasonable one. There is a judgement and heaven and hell are very real. Make the right decision while you are still blessed with a little time.

Jer 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

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There's quite a few of them about.

Judethz,
They have been judged.
You can't save them now.
Now is just the wait for God's hand.

Well technically speaking you have a point, but then on the other hand you could have well

said that about me at one time. But then one day the Lord appeared to me, I accepted Him and thus became saved. It has to be like that or otherwise there would be no hope for any of us. Soon enough the days of darkness will descend when there will be no hope for those who take the mark and follow the Beast. But until then there is still a chance for everyone, so we must keep spreading the word while there is still some light to work by.

The only area you need to focus on is God’s word. 1 Cornith. 15:51-56

But , you must be born again. John 3:5-8

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people like OP just can't understand this. It's why there are so many failed rapture predictions. The temple hasn't even been rebuilt yet. How can the anti christ come in without it? You guys pick and chose the scriptures you want to use and ignore the ones you don't like

Thanks I just had a look at it.

And yeah it sure does look like 2021 is going to be the year when mankind steps into the darkness. The sad thing is that the majority of people will hardly even notice or care very much...at least to begin with.

Just out of interest, I've been reading the Apocryphal/Deuterocanonical books lately and found a reference to the end times and the Tribulation in 2 Edras. It mentions that the Tribulation would begin with the sound of a Trumpet:

"and the trumpet shall sound aloud, and when all hear it, they shall suddenly be terrified. At that time friends shall make war on friends like enemies, and the earth and those who inhabit it shall be terrified, and the springs of the fountains shall stand still, so that for three hours they shall not flow." 2 Edras 6:23-24

The Rapture mentioned in 1 Corinthians 15:52, which happens before the start of the Tribulation, also begins with a Trumpet blast.

It mentions persevering through the Tribulation, just as Matthew 24:13 does:

“And it shall be that whoever remains after all that I have foretold to you shall himself be saved and shall see my salvation and the end of my world." 2 Edras 6:25

And it says this about those that remain until the end, that those that remain will see those that were "taken up", who have not "tasted death" - the raptured saints:

"And they shall see the men who were taken up, who from their birth have not tasted death; and the heart of the earth’s inhabitants shall be changed and converted to a different spirit. For evil shall be blotted out, and deceit shall be quenched; faithfulness shall flourish, and corruption shall be overcome, and the truth, which has been so long without fruit, shall be revealed." 2 Edras 6:26-28

This is consistent with the Biblical teaching that Jesus will return with the raptured church at the end of the Tribulation in Revelation 19:11–16, Jude 14.

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That seems quite interesting but I have to say that Edras and the Apocryphal/Deuterocanonical


books are largely unfamiliar to me and I suppose to most other people as well. Basically I just stick with the Authorized KJV of the bible.

No such thing as Rapture.


Stop lying.


The ultimate hopium!


Not one soul is leaving this rock.