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Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 
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[snippies]

Purpose: To build a time travel machine to go back to 1755.

Go Abouts: 1) create a story and think about the characters and plot; 2) illustrate how the characters solve the problem; 3) begin to find the characters in 'real life'; 4) introduce myself as a character in the story; 5) help carry out the plot; 6) see the story unfolding around me in the here and now.

[snippies]
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Also, I am so silly, thought the book of actions experiences' plans could only have 3 steps. Obviously not, 'doh

Additionally, I said the other books were fairly self-explanatory, but one thing I don't understand is the difference between "what is the action or experience about" and "what is the process about" sections
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Yes, and it would be more interesting to many of the people here. It deals with giants, dragons, and things like that.

Perhaps I will illustrate some of that in Metaphy 2.
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Ooooh that'd be fun!
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Metaphy issue 2

-How To Time Travel
-The Real World of Giants and Dragons
-what else?
 Quoting: The Builder


Oh also, what's a more balanced sleep schedule like?

So the story goes, it was after the industrial revolution that the whole 8 hours of sleep uninterrupted thing started. According to some, before that, people would go to sleep at sundown, wake up for an hour or so in the early morning hours, then sleep for another couple hours (aka polyphasic sleep cycles)

Recently, I'm finding that after 12 hours of being awake I Definitely Need To Go To Sleep. As of right now, I've been awake for 6 hours, and I'm getting signals that I Really Ought To Go To Sleep.

I've seen some say that 20 minute naps every 2-4 hours (totalling 2-3 hours of sleep a day) is the way to go. What say you?

The "evolution" of sleep cycles is interesting
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Can there be a predictable duration after which material nutrient food dependency is cleared?
 Quoting: Klyne

Ponder this question...
What do you think you eat in your dreams? Is there hunger?

(We do 'eat' and 'sleep' there, among other things.)
 Quoting: The Builder


No recall for dream feasting until just now written. Eating there, integrating with eaten. Digestive vehicle to new perspective.

Sleeping? There? Why?
 Quoting: Klyne

Dream food a vehicle to new perspectives, like in the waking world. Interesting.

Sleep? To rest the metaphysical body, of course. But how would one fall sleep while dreaming?
 Quoting: The Builder


This is a bag of chips :)

In the waking world? Simplest put, a wholehearted relaxation. If on bed, operational awareness is more bed, less body. If sleeping another way, in a camping pocket, for example, it would be the same process.

To illustrate it, how about taking strength and muscle for example? In the physical action the muscle might contract and strength would become more. This is usual. To sleep, from the wholehearted relaxation, strength becomes less and muscle expand.

In the other way? It must be the body is the resting place of my metaphysical self.

An analogy that comes to mind is how one might feel cramped in a pose for too long or being restless from inactivity.
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Is metaphy monthly?
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Is metaphy monthly?
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Not that time matters so much these days, 6 weeks ago feels like yesterday, and yesterday feels like 6 weeks ago :p
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Yes, and it would be more interesting to many of the people here. It deals with giants, dragons, and things like that.

Perhaps I will illustrate some of that in Metaphy 2.
 Quoting: The Builder


Ooooh that'd be fun!
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Metaphy issue 2

-How To Time Travel
-The Real World of Giants and Dragons
-what else?
 Quoting: The Builder


Recipes.
For both physical and metaphysical bodies, please. :)
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Recipes seconded!
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is yellowstone going to erupt any time soon by any chance?

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Yes, and it would be more interesting to many of the people here. It deals with giants, dragons, and things like that.

Perhaps I will illustrate some of that in Metaphy 2.
 Quoting: The Builder


Ooooh that'd be fun!
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Metaphy issue 2

-How To Time Travel
-The Real World of Giants and Dragons
-what else?
 Quoting: The Builder


Recipes.
For both physical and metaphysical bodies, please. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74946508


Oh and a fashion section:
Fibonacci Sequins - Form-flattering interpretations for any occasion?
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GOD IS LOVE

THAT IS

THE TRUTH

AND

THE TRUTH

IS

JESUS CHRIST

ABSOLUTE AND PERFECT

THE AUTHOR OF LIFE EVERLASTING



SATAN IS THE GOD OF THIS WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM

WHO IS THE MASTER OF THIS TWISTED DISTORTION

HE CAN MAKE YOU SEE HEAR TASTE FEEL SMELL ANYTHING HE WANTS YOU TO

HE CAN TWIST AND DISTORT YOUR REALITY

SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING

WHAT IS HIS END RESULT

TO KILL YOU

HOWEVER

IN JESUS CHRIST WE ARE SAVE FROM DEATH

WE ARE SAVE FROM HIS TWISTED REALITY

IN JESUS CHRIST IS HEAVEN ON EARTH

ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS BELIEVE IT
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How does one distinguish between imagination and an actual metaphysical meeting?
Not to doubt the latter, it seems to be a certain possibility - just seems inaccessible with how calcified my pineal gland must be.
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Please allow me to re-frame the question to illustrate.

"How does one distinguish between a dream and an actual physical experience?"

You would sense certain qualities and characteristics that would identify it as a physical experience. For many of us, when we awaken, we do not know where we are and need a few moments to get our bearings. The consistency of the new world (the waking world) tells us where we are.

Each experience has its own value. We, of course, place more weight on the physical experience but only while we are physical. In a dream we would place more weight on the dream experiences.

Now, for your question. To distinguish between the imagination and an actual metaphysical meeting would be similar, and it is also about utility.

A metaphysical experience would probably not be useful for shampooing your hair for 10 minutes, for example.

An experience in your waking imagination would not be useful to communicate with someone a thousand miles away.

It is only you that cares if something is 'real' because to your subconscious self (for lack of better terms) they are both real because they are both useful and can be focused on, perceived, etc.

This event being metaphysical, it is far more about the process and concepts rather than doing something at a certain time. To exercise our metaphysical muscles, so to speak.

You are 'there' as soon as you think about its characteristics. Your subconscious self all ready connects to it and knows how. It may not be useful to you in your physical experience directly but it may be very useful to your metaphysical experience.

You may still be experiencing the 'event' but your physical brain is unaware. Green base/square, black ring, yellow top.

These are the first baby steps to the NooNet. The real internet is in your mind and is something you can realise you are all ways connected to.
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Thank you, that makes sense.
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Surely :) Happy that it helped some.

Three more questions.
One, how does Time work within the metaphysical domain?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83032977

I'll be illustrating that with some new material in the next issue of Metaphy.

Basically, there is only an every-changing present that has different qualities depending on how you look at it.

Space and time are more like senses than absolutes.

The date was June 17th on the site; is one to assume the metaphysical is subconsciously held to the time of the physical realm?
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Yes. It's relatively easy to keep track of physical time in the metaphysical realm. Otherwise few of us would awaken at the appropriate time. (The physical body 'keeps' the time via oscillations, but the physical body is an aspect of the metaphysical body/realm. For myself, I have often caught my sleeping self counting the seconds from physical body, though I haven't experienced this is more detail to see how it works.)

Thought time was another restraint/resistance that one may be able to shed.
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Think of it more like a focus. You just re-focus to chose an other time or space.

Time and space are manifestations of perception and awareness, so they cannot be shed while one is being something.

Your sense of either will be different depending on how you're perceiving the reality, however.

Two, is there a way to "merge" the metaphysical with the physical,
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They are all ready fully merged but appear to be separate, as it just mirrors the universal dichotomy.

The focus could, rather, be on a new kind of awareness of human being. Humans are far more than physical beings, but metaphysical.

The metaphysical would be little-understood, as there is no way to really explain it. We have only explored a very tiny percentage of our physicality, though, and most of the 'merging' that I speak of is really just expanding our own familiar being just a little bit more.
the same way one merges "dream" and physical through Lucid Dreaming?
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Lucid dreaming is more of a physical experience than a metaphysical one. Think of it as the body's dream rather than the brain's. It's still consciousness, however, but the focus is more on the physical body's perspective. That is to say, when we dream in such a way we are perceiving he structure of our physical body.

Three, beyond diet (low-carb vegetarian), are there certain stones or foods and gems or other items that may assist in these baby steps?
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You could say that the only things that 'assist' are that which make sense to your subconsciousness. A more simplistic, though inaccurate, way of putting it is that if you 'believe' something will or won't work, then the experience will be closer to your expectation.

Your sense of reality comes from within, so to speak. There is nothing 'outside' that comes before it. If it makes sense to your subconsciousness, for example, that smoking 10 cigarettes a day brings you closer, that will probably be your experience. It's beyond a 'belief' though; it is a kind of integrated logic.

Also, I appreciate all of the content you put out on your sites. Reading through the Italian Job reveals to me how one "breaks through the geometric shape of a reality" which you wrote to another: one needs to focus on which isn't talked about but can be questioned and become possibility and has. To invert is quite an expedient toward this.
In my previous conception, how race was formed and the qualities of skin was never questioned. When one inverts parts of that, a new reality is introduced.

It's nice to have a different view on things!
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It was made into a 'touchy' subject intentionally, to hide the reality so that no one would want to question the accepted narrative.

You're very welcome :)
video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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How to deal with fear? Like the kind that can't be reasoned out of.

For example, I have this visceral fear of "altered states of consciousness" (so to speak) that was "caused by" abusing a certain substance. Achieving altered states of consciousness with drugs causes a bodily panic response (so now I don't do drugs, who needs them anyway), but also so does being tired. After about 12 hours of being awake, everything around me gets a bit (or a lot) wibbly-wobbly and my body reacts as if I'm dying. Just massive panic attacks that I can't reason my way out of by telling myself there's nothing to fear from my own perceptions. Can't breathe, heart beats out of my chest, etc.

This fear specifically is a pain for me because journeys into the metaphysical are liable to trigger the reaction, but a general "how to assuage/reinterpret fear" could be a good topic
 Quoting: SabAdo 80635221

May I ask, have you talked to your body about it? (Writing a letter, for example, or looking into the mirror?) It sounds silly but it's a way of communicating to your subconscious 'mind'.

It seems that you became aware of the drug itself (via the structure of its chemical composition) rather than aware of any altered consciousness.

You've integrated that structure into your body's awareness, I would guess. It may not be fear but a kind of friction, like that between a cat you've had for a few years and a new one you just brought home.

For myself, learning to be okay with the fear of something by being okay with its worst presumed consequences.
video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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How do we resolve, "Which is why I don't see them :p"

with, "I accidentally missed my last appointment and he hasn't even gotten in touch with me so there've been no more"

If he had gotten in touch with you, would there have been more?

The whole field, along with other fields they focus on, also use a type of genius model. Anything can be made to make sense, given the right narrative.
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I don't see and have never seen psychiatrists, who want to diagnose and treat with medications. I have seen psychotherapists. Two in the last two years. Neither were interested in diagnoses or in referring me to psychiatrists for medicinal treatment. Psychology is the sister field to psychiatry, but it seems some in the field have an interest in trying to change it from the inside (I am not sure how well that method works, personally). It may be that the fields of psychiatry and psychology have a vested interest in making things up, and the top is filled with actors and such, but I don't think the people in my community in the field see it that way. They're just misinformed by the field controlled by actors and the like and doing their best. And I've found use in the tools they've given me.

Perspective is likely telling me I don't need anything they have to offer, however. The first committed suicide, the second has not gotten back in touch with me.
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

An old friend of mine, who practices such things professionally, has been trying to drill the difference between the fields into my head for years. For some reason I still see them as being the same kind of thing.

She's mentally ill and got into the profession to find out more about her mental state.
video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Ooooh that'd be fun!
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Metaphy issue 2

-How To Time Travel
-The Real World of Giants and Dragons
-what else?
 Quoting: The Builder


Recipes.
For both physical and metaphysical bodies, please. :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74946508


Oh and a fashion section:
Fibonacci Sequins - Form-flattering interpretations for any occasion?
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Hehe I love this
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How to deal with fear? Like the kind that can't be reasoned out of.

For example, I have this visceral fear of "altered states of consciousness" (so to speak) that was "caused by" abusing a certain substance. Achieving altered states of consciousness with drugs causes a bodily panic response (so now I don't do drugs, who needs them anyway), but also so does being tired. After about 12 hours of being awake, everything around me gets a bit (or a lot) wibbly-wobbly and my body reacts as if I'm dying. Just massive panic attacks that I can't reason my way out of by telling myself there's nothing to fear from my own perceptions. Can't breathe, heart beats out of my chest, etc.

This fear specifically is a pain for me because journeys into the metaphysical are liable to trigger the reaction, but a general "how to assuage/reinterpret fear" could be a good topic
 Quoting: SabAdo 80635221

May I ask, have you talked to your body about it? (Writing a letter, for example, or looking into the mirror?) It sounds silly but it's a way of communicating to your subconscious 'mind'.
 Quoting: The Builder


I haven't, actually. I have a sort of system with communicating with my body called "muscle testing." It's a yes/no system where I make my pointer fingers and thumbs into 'O's and hook them together. Then, I ask yes and no questions and pull my hands apart. If the answer is "yes," the link doesn't break. If it's "no," it does. Seems pretty accurate for some things, it's only been "wrong" about one thing so far and that might've been a flaw in my question.

At any rate, this is a good system for some things, but mostly for my "subconscious self" to get information to "me," rather than the other way around (or so it seems). I'll try writing a letter

It seems that you became aware of the drug itself (via the structure of its chemical composition) rather than aware of any altered consciousness.

You've integrated that structure into your body's awareness, I would guess.

You've integrated that structure into your body's awareness, I would guess. It may not be fear but a kind of friction, like that between a cat you've had for a few years and a new one you just brought home.
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Yeah, "altered consciousness" is in quotes bc I'm still wrapping my head around the idea that states induced by drugs are the states of the drugs and not actual "altered states of consciousness," per se. Still in the soap bubble stage

The cat analogy makes sense, I think, but what's the old cat, what's the new cat, and what's the cat fighting (friction)? I guess the friction would be the anxiety: hard to breathe, heart palpitations, thoughts that I'm dying, etc. Is the old cat "me" and the new cat the drug? Or is the new cat "the effects of the drug" (which is the drug just applied to more areas of my perspective)?


The "state" I felt after the metaphysical meeting, where everything was vibrant and all that (which I've gathered was more of an actual "altered consciousness"), actually didn't trigger any kind of anxiety reaction like taking drugs or being tired does. If the anxiety reaction is more friction than it is fear, it makes sense that it happens when I take drugs.

The drug I abused/integrated expressed an interpretation of the world that was very fearful, for lack of a better term. Just a constant state of anxiety while using it. I'd imagine other drugs have a similar enough geometry to that one to express a similar interpretation after integrating something like that.

But then I don't know where that puts "being tired." I wouldn't think being tired would share a similar geometry to the drugs.

I actually got it as I typed out the last sentence, lol. The abused drug was one "for sleep," and it has since caused anxiety reactions with other drugs that cause sleepiness (weed, muscle relaxers, particularly). So it does make sense that sleepiness by itself could (does) express the friction.

Time to un-integrate! I'll write a letter. Would re-defining "sleepiness" help, you think? I'll try and see what happens


For myself, learning to be okay with the fear of something by being okay with its worst presumed consequences.
 Quoting: The Builder


I think the anxiety I'm talking about is more friction than actual fear, because I've found this to be helpful with loads of other fears but it does squat for what happens when I get tired (in the moment, at any rate). The reminder helps for other things, though

Thank you:)

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[snippies]


Lucid dreaming is more of a physical experience than a metaphysical one. Think of it as the body's dream rather than the brain's. It's still consciousness, however, but the focus is more on the physical body's perspective. That is to say, when we dream in such a way we are perceiving he structure of our physical body.

 Quoting: The Builder


This makes a lot of sense. I don't lucid dream often, but when I do I can only really keep it up if the focus is on the sensations perceived by the body. If I start to "think" at all, bye-bye lucidity

You could say that the only things that 'assist' are that which make sense to your subconsciousness. A more simplistic, though inaccurate, way of putting it is that if you 'believe' something will or won't work, then the experience will be closer to your expectation.

Your sense of reality comes from within, so to speak. There is nothing 'outside' that comes before it. If it makes sense to your subconsciousness, for example, that smoking 10 cigarettes a day brings you closer, that will probably be your experience. It's beyond a 'belief' though; it is a kind of integrated logic.

 Quoting: The Builder


I've been pretending that all the water I drink is from Ceva Vatika

It was made into a 'touchy' subject intentionally, to hide the reality so that no one would want to question the accepted narrative.

You're very welcome :)
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Same with the sex issue?
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An old friend of mine, who practices such things professionally, has been trying to drill the difference between the fields into my head for years. For some reason I still see them as being the same kind of thing.

She's mentally ill and got into the profession to find out more about her mental state.
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The differences don't really matter, unless you're into it. It all can be easily viewed as the same thing. The same can be said for any number of things
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How do we resolve, "Which is why I don't see them :p"

with, "I accidentally missed my last appointment and he hasn't even gotten in touch with me so there've been no more"

If he had gotten in touch with you, would there have been more?

The whole field, along with other fields they focus on, also use a type of genius model. Anything can be made to make sense, given the right narrative.
 Quoting: The Builder


I don't see and have never seen psychiatrists, who want to diagnose and treat with medications. I have seen psychotherapists. Two in the last two years. Neither were interested in diagnoses or in referring me to psychiatrists for medicinal treatment. Psychology is the sister field to psychiatry, but it seems some in the field have an interest in trying to change it from the inside (I am not sure how well that method works, personally). It may be that the fields of psychiatry and psychology have a vested interest in making things up, and the top is filled with actors and such, but I don't think the people in my community in the field see it that way. They're just misinformed by the field controlled by actors and the like and doing their best. And I've found use in the tools they've given me.

Perspective is likely telling me I don't need anything they have to offer, however. The first committed suicide, the second has not gotten back in touch with me.
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An old friend of mine, who practices such things professionally, has been trying to drill the difference between the fields into my head for years. For some reason I still see them as being the same kind of thing.

She's mentally ill and got into the profession to find out more about her mental state.
 Quoting: The Builder


Would you speak more about the relationship between mental health conditions and the metaphysical nature of them? How they might be resolved in a more holistic way…. Integrated? And what are they, really? Thanks.
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Yes, and it would be more interesting to many of the people here. It deals with giants, dragons, and things like that.

Perhaps I will illustrate some of that in Metaphy 2.
 Quoting: The Builder


Ooooh that'd be fun!
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Metaphy issue 2

-How To Time Travel
-The Real World of Giants and Dragons
-what else?
 Quoting: The Builder


How about:

The Americas and the Erasure Of Most of the World's History and Historical Figures I

Thank you
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Thanks for the input! It's appreciated.
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Wants are a kind of emotion, I guess, with little value unless put to action (as a "want").

Wants with drive behind it used to be called 'zeal', but that word has fallen out of common use.
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We disagree on the value of emotions, which is fine. It may be as true as it can be that emotions are the gateway to chaos, but if reasons is to order as emotion is to chaos, there cannot be a balance without both. Emotion is informative, reason should be what is acted upon. Anger, depression, guilt, and shame are all friends of ours that let us know that we have needs that aren't being met. Wants are friends of ours that may let us know what we consider to be missing from our perspective. "Wants" are useful to let us know there is the potential for something to be unfolded. The resolve to unfold them turns them into zeals.
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Yes, emotions could be informative but the value of the information can decrease substantially the more one would become aware of the same information over and over as the 'emotions' repeat.

For example, Mike is a generally 'happy' guy while Peter is a generally 'angry' guy. Yesterday, they were in the same place and had the same experience. Each had their own response. Mike was happy about what happened, while Peter was not. What new information is there, and how is it useful if they both continue to react the same general way about the same things?

More importantly, it's difficult to define emotionally-related things, so it is easy to go around in circles with them. The lack of definition and ability to be measured is why they are chaotic. So what would it mean for the value of the information to begin with if it cannot really be defined or measured and, thus, is difficult to interact with?

There is all ways potential for something to be unfolded, mostly with what one doesn't want or isn't thinking about. It may often be a better idea to do what is more useful and has more benefit to more of one's perspective than what one think one 'wants'.

One could have zeal for doing what is useful, regardless of what one 'wants', even if one does not agree with it. (Such as what I am doing now. I see the logic, but I don't 'want' it. However, I think it is best.)

Sure, but that cannot unilaterally be the case, otherwise nothing would get done. I hunger, I find I want food. Sometimes even a specific food. If I just wanted to feel the want, I would never eat. If we classify "wants" with emotions, then they're informative and should be run through reason to be acted upon. Sometimes I want a specific food that is unhealthy for me, such as something sugary; that is informative that I am hungry and that I'm craving chaos or somesuch. Then, through reason, I can decide to eat something healthy and replace the craving for chaos in the form of sugar with something else less detrimental.
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Those are not really wants but bodily reactions. Your body sends a message to your brain that you 'want' something because it works. If some other type of message worked besides want (such as pain), it would do that.

A parasite can also send a message to your brain to go talk to someone over there. It doesn't mean that you 'want' it, however, and neither would the parasite.

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I'll give you a clue, using what I do.

Purpose: To build a time travel machine to go back to 1755.

Go Abouts: 1) create a story and think about the characters and plot; 2) illustrate how the characters solve the problem; 3) begin to find the characters in 'real life'; 4) introduce myself as a character in the story; 5) help carry out the plot; 6) see the story unfolding around me in the here and now.

This is The Genius. It is building a small model of what you 'want'. Really, you're building the algorithm and can make modifications at any time. You can scale it up later and apply it to other things.

Don't worry about how to start. Just start with something... anything, and then go from there :)
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Hmmm, this makes sense. I see where I've been going "wrong." I've been starting the story with myself in it. Thank you:)
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Just remember, a distant space/time is still you (your perspective) but a distant you.

Begin with that distant you rather than the immediate (here/now) you.
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The Book of Actions & Experiences - An EXCERPT of the Most Common
ID: .01
Date: Today

What is the action or experience about?

The action is about sitting down in a comfortable seat and recalling to memory all that I had done to get here.

What is the plan?
Step 1 - Become aware of the place where I am located.
Step 2 - Appreciate the place for being the place where I truly am happy to reside.
Step 3 - Relax comfortably and reminisce about the path taken to bring me here.

What do you expect to happen?

I expect to view a fond flow of memories as images, feelings, thoughts, sound snippets and alike. I expect some to be good, some to be bad. I don't think I got through with only a few bumps along the way.


What actually happened? Expectation versus result?

1st time - I sat and focused too much on negative things. Noticing I was unable to recall what I wanted to recall, I became more negative. Eventually I had to get up and move around some. I went outside on the porch and got some fresh air.

2nd time - I sat and didn't focus on anything in particular. I was going to recall my path of how I got here and instead I lightly dozed in a daydream of current going-ons and mild dramas of life, near where I live. Suddenly an insight arrived about a memory I hadn't recalled before. Probing further I noticed a whole story I had kept hidden from myself, due to holding onto old baggage. I couldn't remember these good parts because I was holding so much pride in my difficulties and trials. I was a warrior who had been through a lot. I had forgotten the beauty of peace in the process.

3rd time - In my excitement I leaped to my feet, exhilarated. It was like I had just discovered a treasure. My heart was pounding. I'd realized something big. I could feel and see precisely where I had been gripping to all the hurts and pains and traumas of my path. Bizarrely, it was like they were slowly melting, dripping, drifting away from me. I might've described it as some kind of oozing feeling, but it was very comfortable and not disconcerting. The purpose I had laid out for this experience had become irrelevant.

What are the 3 most important rules of this action or experience?

1 - In the first session I learned not to interfere with my own goal in focusing on signs of its failure, instead of the successful outcome which would have worked better.

2 - In the second session I learned that I could trust my subconscious to give me information that doesn't depend on my requests, or any constraints I attempt to place on it. There was a love I sensed within the experience that was so immense, I was astounded to learn that it was wholly up to me, whether I would suffer, or release my own death-grip on my pain.

3 - In the third session, I learned that I could wait and watch patiently. I have my goal and know not to interfere with its completion. I trust the wisdom of my guide to take me where I want to go. I trust the sense of love to fulfill itself... as my pain, my hurting memories of what I'd done, and where I'd gone, dissolve forever. I do not remember being in pain.


The Book of Actions & Experiences: summary of rules gleaned


Action/Experience: Sitting to remember the path I had taken to get to my treasured place of residence.
• Rule 1 - Focus on the outcome that becomes.
• Rule 2 - Unfocus to dissolve distractions.
• Rule 3 - During satisfaction, watch and wait.
Interesting detail: Enjoy. To not savor the relief is to forego the experience of it.

The Book of Wisdom
ID: .01
Date: Today

What is the process about?

The process is about sensing my optimal flow of Self.

Are there any conditions?
All the conditions are Self imposed.

What is the best way to do it?
1 - Resonate to the highest fidelity representation of the outcome.
2 - Allow distractions to be distractions as no more than what they are.
3 - Permit enjoyment of the relief from unnecessary obstacles to the optimal flow.
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Metaphy issue 2

-How To Time Travel
-The Real World of Giants and Dragons
-what else?
 Quoting: The Builder


- Inversion, reflection, and opposites attract, oh my.
- + Something related to Markets.

Not on their product. The the image, the reflection showing the frog's eye open, I like. [link to images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com (secure)]

Inversion vs reflection vs opposite, it's all a mixed bag for me right now.

I am trying my best not to ask about any hot hot market stuff. Summer solstice coming in red hot, so I wait :)

Catching myself thinking about how 'Sense of physical Self' is me looking outwards into the world, and then thinking what is coming inwards to me right now? ( To catch a connection to the... meta.
 Quoting: SpawnX

I'll try to work it in. Currently planned for the next few:

Issue 1: Birth and Rebirth
Issue 2: Time and Space
Issue 3: Community
Issue 4: Money and Markets

I may talk about some of the people markets here in #4. (Each human in this world has a double in a kind of machine that is modelled and.. well, you'll see. But maybe I should just stick to the metaphysical nature of tokens and their economic manifestations.)

I'm still not sure how to make inversion make sense in a way that my grandma would understand.

Thanks for your input!
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[snippies]

Purpose: To build a time travel machine to go back to 1755.

Go Abouts: 1) create a story and think about the characters and plot; 2) illustrate how the characters solve the problem; 3) begin to find the characters in 'real life'; 4) introduce myself as a character in the story; 5) help carry out the plot; 6) see the story unfolding around me in the here and now.

[snippies]
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Also, I am so silly, thought the book of actions experiences' plans could only have 3 steps. Obviously not, 'doh
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Yes, only 3.

The 6 steps I illustrated, above, are for a Genius model.

The Book of Life Systems is meant for a person to develop an understanding of the everyday things they do, which can help them to step into the flow of things and see who they really are. Understanding is a small part of the picture. Integrating understanding in action and productivity is where the value is at.

Additionally, I said the other books were fairly self-explanatory, but one thing I don't understand is the difference between "what is the action or experience about" and "what is the process about" sections
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The wisdom is a higher level view of actions, so to speak.

Here, "wisdom" takes on the classical definition, meaning "ways to do something". By the wisdom, one can can come up with general rules for action across a domain or sub-domain.

You might have 10 different articles about different things in 'Actions and Experiences' and relate them all together into one 'Wisdom' article.

Think of it as a heuristic, rule of thumb, or guideline for different kinds of actions.

And think of each book as forming part of a pyramid, with the first book at the base. At the top is the foundation of your Self.
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Yes, and it would be more interesting to many of the people here. It deals with giants, dragons, and things like that.

Perhaps I will illustrate some of that in Metaphy 2.
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Ooooh that'd be fun!
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Metaphy issue 2

-How To Time Travel
-The Real World of Giants and Dragons
-what else?
 Quoting: The Builder


teleportation
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Hi! Just a little note that I am still here, enjoying reading your material.
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I'll give you a clue, using what I do.

Purpose: To build a time travel machine to go back to 1755.

Go Abouts: 1) create a story and think about the characters and plot; 2) illustrate how the characters solve the problem; 3) begin to find the characters in 'real life'; 4) introduce myself as a character in the story; 5) help carry out the plot; 6) see the story unfolding around me in the here and now.

This is The Genius. It is building a small model of what you 'want'. Really, you're building the algorithm and can make modifications at any time. You can scale it up later and apply it to other things.

Don't worry about how to start. Just start with something... anything, and then go from there :)
 Quoting: The Builder


Hmmm, this makes sense. I see where I've been going "wrong." I've been starting the story with myself in it. Thank you:)
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Just remember, a distant space/time is still you (your perspective) but a distant you.

Begin with that distant you rather than the immediate (here/now) you.
 Quoting: The Builder


This is more difficult than I thought it would be. I have only scattered memories of the general time I'd like to perceive, all from my (vs not-my) perspective. I've no idea what "surrounded" them, really. I remember the characters and the bits of the narrative that were "mine," but not really what the characters were doing outside of "me" or in what order the bits of the narrative went

I have this idea that neuronics can be used to "see" what surrounds any given perception. I've had this experience "going forward," before, where I took a current perception and followed a logical line and incredibly-accurately predicted an outcome (I mean, "created," really). But I figure this can be done in the reverse to "see" what logically "led up to" something. Like, being able to "see" what tree a certain apple came from. I mean, that's sort of what "memory" is, right? Seeing what "led up" to right now from my (vs not-my) perspective?

I know I just make it up anyway so I definitely could just make something entirely new up, but I'd like the details to be close-ish, so I'd like to be able to take a memory and have sort of an "expanded view" of it. Does that make sense I feel like I'm not articulating this well, lol.

Sort of like you did with the moon-colored car, I think? That still mystifies me

Any tips on this other than "more practice with neuronics" (bc of course more interaction with it "opens" more possibilities)?

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Something that stuck with me abt chaol giving details about their world is that their population is like double ours (iirc) and that Antarctica is comfortably populated.

Whelp [link to www.foxtv.com (secure)] (not that msm is, like, trustworthy, but still)
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais

Pack your bags... We're moving to Antarctica!

Is the Earth's population really 8-9 billion? Hmm...
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Wait did this mean that the earth's population is more or fewer than 8-9 billion "in reality"? I can sort of see the case for either. Make everyone think the worlds' population is so big that there's nothing any individual can do to change it; or, make it seem smaller in order to say "see, even with this few people no one can take care of themselves so you need government to do it for you." The latter is just formulated from the "14 billion" given 10 years ago.

The latter would be mind-boggling considering there's so much focus on the idea of over-population... though it does accomplish getting everyone to believe the former as well. huh.

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