Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

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refers to "$21,000" in relation to gold, not bitcoin. confused.

It's kind of like "atomic energy".

They've taken a simple process and turned it into something extraordinary in order to support a particular narrative.

Steam engines are still in great use around the world.

If you develop a good algorithm and scale it, you can call it special and people will believe that.

No.


During World War II, it was 'finishing off' the Old World that it couldn't get rid of completely, previously. They also ventured into other countries to help get rid of their Old World populations. Same with Germany, Italy, and other places.

Self-infliction, with outside assistance.

Take a closer look at photos of 'damage' in Hiroshima, for example, or early videos of tests. If we were not conditioned to believe a certain narrative, we would see them more for what they are. We still have the same low-quality productions today and they still go mostly unnoticed. That is the power of mass media.

All wars are against populations, not armies or against countries. You might have massive conflicts where people are driving out the Cult, but that's about it. Nothing on the scale of an actual war where Country A is fighting against Country B. It is fiction in order to craft the narrative that we have today. It is almost always conflict between Old World and New World. The same is ongoing, but it's called different names (e.g., progressivism, development, sustainability).

Reading through the Metaphy again.

In particular the story of emotions driving vs logic driving.

Seems contradictory to the mentions of "getting into flow" scattered throughout this thread.

Yet there is distinction, if one reintroduces Flow as Intuitive Logic.

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> fully immersed in a feeling of energized focus, full involvement, and enjoyment in the process of the activity

Flow is incremental steps. "Gut feeling" is the next step and often comes with an internal explanation not often said aloud.
To mine into new realms of logic.
It is a decision matrix; it is a control sequence.

Chaotic passionate feelings comes with a sense of loss, "losing control" as popularized in media.
Not knowing what happens next and bracing for it, reacting.
Classic dichotomy of "proactive" and "reactive"

Now one Builds instead of Gazes

The logic behind deceptive history makes sense.
What confuses is how one pulls that off with worldwide events:
wouldn't those that were around remember it and refute it?

A guess would be control structures allow perspectives to "look away" for however long until that event is Forgotten by most, then Rebranded and Reintroduced with the new version.

Schooling gives an illusion of continuity with its curriculum, but the curriculum can be changed at will by those who control schooling, libraries, institutions.

With enough control over focus, grandparents and parents will find no need nor time to tell "younger" perspectives, or ones already forgotten

Plus, understanding how to ""see"" that which is "missing" betwixt known facts would be useful for being a private investigator, which isn't something I'd really considered as an option but would be a fun (and potentially lucrative) set of possibilities to explore

Starting with a personal mystery would be practice

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So was the Nazi party "new world," then? I'm not sure if that makes sense, considering how demonized Nazis were/are after their defeat. Or is that resistance at work, keeping the "new world" relative by being so opposed to a "new world" representation (the nazis).

Edit: not to mention they stole the swastika and obscured its original meaning (and its actual original meaning)



I notice that most of the photos of Hiroshima are of the same general area and include the same demolished building

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Hehe, quality entertainment

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Sounds good. You start :)

Would it really be missed after a few days?

Yes, something like that. And the new color would be new, yet would have been there all along. (The relationships would have all ways been there, but just not perceived.)

The value is not in seeing the difference between experiences. The value is the experiences themselves, regardless of what is understood. The difference between experiences is meaningless, more or less. The purpose is simply 'to be', or at least seem to be. How it is done is irrelevant.

"Flow" is, here, used to refer to an equilibrium in the way one senses the Self; a harmony of Chaos and Order where one can sense oneself producing reality in real-time.


This should give an idea about it but is not really it, exactly. Some/many would have a better sense for what I'm talking about by reading more of this example.


Building, indeed.

Rather than 'perceiving reality', knowing that at each moment you are building it anew and your reality is who you are. That is the ultimate flow.

Sure, like the events of today or yesterday or the day before being refuted by those who are eyewitnesses.

But people are heavily biased towards the narrative of self-appointed authorities.


There's no need for them to wait. It doesn't matter if people still remember when they control the mass media as well as alternative media.


or, "...those who control the schools, libraries, institutions nearly everyone wants to attend and be indoctrinated by"

The people need it more than the Cult.


Nor desire, unfortunately.

Yes.

A war against native Germans, like what happened in China before and after. This is made more obvious with the Dresden bombing by 'allied' forces after the supposed war.


Why do you think they were defeated?

The Cult are masters of disguise. They don't even try that hard (e.g., "nasa" and so much else)


Most of the world was in support of the dramas, until about 1950-1960 when a new narrative began to emerge. That is when new distractions in the west were created to erase the memory of what actually transpired (e.g., 'sexual revolution', 'drug revolution', 'civil rights', etc).


The Cult has been faking it ever since they gained momentum a few hundred years ago. Much of it is sloppy work but it doesn't matter because the authority bias resolves any discrepancies with 99.9% of the population.

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They're the ones pushing those theories about themselves.

Without those narratives, they would be far less relevant to pop culture. They want people to be aware of their fake demonic worship events and such. It helps to increase their funding, no matter what they are up to (just as there are millions who think Neuralink is cool, no matter what is does). There will be millions of people who wouldn't bat an eye at what they think is the possibility of the universe being destroyed by a giant machine in Switzerland.

Military, not scientific. (And, remember, the enemy is the humanity. CERN is also where the web was born, which is also a powerful tool against same.)

I will try to remove salt from my diet and also from my family diet.



What was the average lifespan of humans in the old world?

Is the push to drink a lot of water every day, a way to destroy our bodies? I think I read in the past that drinking small amount of water regularly while exercising lead to problems like enlargement of the heart and premature death, I think it was a study on marathoner.

Is there a reason why dentists try to remove everyone wisdom teeth apart from money? Why are they called wisdom teeth?

What is the reason behind the need to cirkumcise babies in some religions and countries? (I cannot post that word)

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I mean, I think wisdom teeth may be legacy parts that don't serve a lot of purpose. For a lot of people (for me, and a lot of the people I know) they grow in incorrectly and cause a lot of pain, that's why I got mine out. Be interesting to see The Builder's interpretation, though.

In terms of cirkumcision (annoying that that has to be censored, lol), my understanding of it comes from Neville Goddard, who interpreted the Bible in a more Selfish way than most of his and our contemporaries.

In whom also ye are cirkumcised with the cirkumcision made without hands; in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by cirkumcision of Christ. – Col. 2:11

"Cirkumcision is the operation which removes the veil that hides the head of creation.

The physical act has nothing to do with the spiritual act.

The whole world could be physically cirkumcised and yet remain unclean and blind leaders of the blind.

The spiritually cirkumcised have had the veil of darkness removed and know themselves to be Christ, the light of the world."

Early cirkumcision removed only the skin surrounding the head of the penis, not the entire skin. The physical act is representative of the "spiritual" act, though

Oftentimes the physical brain, bathing in fear, will drum up all kinds of excuses not to do something that might prove beneficial.

The problem with emotions is that they make a person think they desire or need something that they do not actually.

The 'need' is simply to feel like one exists. Sugar, salt, drugs, music busy-ness, drama, etc., are some of the more exciting ways we can fulfil that need.


There is a lot of confusion in regards to what the world was like previously because of the shift to the different kind of consciousness that we find ourselves in now (human consciousness).

How would it be possible that the world is only a few thousand years old? Because of this shift, which began about that time. The evidence of this shift is all around us, but we think we are seeing what the Cult tells us to see because we'd prefer not to see the reality. (This is the main reason they are so heavily involved in the Earth and physical sciences. We don't want to see the reality so they invent what can obscure it.)

This cycle is repeated in our physical birth, where we assume a different kind of consciousness that we had previously. If our government-issued ID says that we were born in 2001 then we might say we are 21 years old, for example.

The same person laughing at "the Earth is 6000 years old" proudly says that they are "21 years old", because they are ignorant of both.

If we translated the metaphysical lifespan to today's reality, the common lifespan might seem something like several hundred years.


Drinking water and eating food, for most of us, is fluoridation. The more a person eats and drinks, thus, the more ignorant of reality they can be.

Drinking water after eating (i.e., to 'wash it down') can also lead to problems.


Each point in the brain has a corresponding physical manifestation in the body. The teeth are symbolic of the trinity, with each region corresponding to an aspect of the trinity and its inversion in metaphysicality.

The more that the function of teeth can be destroyed across populations, the better for the Cult and the happier the population is.


To weaken and feminise the spirit, throwing it off balance.

For my entertainment, I just read the Cult's interpretation of what became the 'Holy Bible'.

BREAKING NEWS: The Cult Now Promotes Practices That Benefit the Human Spirit and Your Ability to See Things More Accurately

Story at 0.

But we can't really ""have"" experience without difference . Like, when we're perceiving a "thing," we're really perceiving the relationships behind it, but isn't that sort of like the "difference" between two (or more) so-called "absolutes" (which ofc don't "exist" as they're beyond perception but English remains limited).

In experience, this "second" in the now-present is only this second because it's "different" from the last second. A chair is only a chair because it's different from the floor. A fruit is an apple and not an orange bc the apple is different from the orange. Etc. Etc. ad infinitum

You asked, before, how we "learn," and from where I'm standing now that seems to be through difference. Epistemology is an annoying subject to try and discuss, though, with English's ever-more obvious limitations.

Interestingly, I think this may be part of the "problem" I have with neuronics. I assume it's somewhat different in application to alphabetical language, but I can't yet appreciate what the difference actually is so can't apply it against the "known" of alphabetical language. Interesting to think about

You would still be perceiving differences, of course, and having experiences from those relationships.

You may be implying that no experience would be had because you would not see the new color as a new color.

(But there are still other colors, of course.)


That would depend on the system we are using to perceive reality. In some perspectives, the chair and the floor might be the same, with more differences within a certain aspect the chair part than the whole thing itself. In an other system, a chair might be seem as 500 different things.


Think of it more like a map in your brain, with sets being the landscape you place upon it that can help you formulate your experience.

A handicapped form of this would be something like English.

Are you saying that consuming salt is, in kolosama's case, potentially beneficial?

So how does one determine what is actually beneficial? "Useful" is a relative term, like all adjectives. Everything is "useful" for something, and thus something that is not "beneficial" for one intent may be very "beneficial" for an other.

For the intent of "being able to experience more of the metaphysical perspective," you seem to indicate that removing toxins and additives is beneficial. So then, removing salt would be beneficial. But then, consuming salt is potentially beneficial.

I'm gathering that part of what's not being said is that your word shouldn't be taken as gospel (implied by what is said, that we are the only author, thus authority, of our experience), but how is one supposed to determine what is and isn't beneficial toward a particular intent?

Is it that a decision made in fear (for example, removing certain toxins for fear that one won't be able to perceive such and such without doing so) or on others' authority is likely to be non-beneficial, metaphysically?



If the only "need" that exists is to feel like one exists, then all else is entertainment on top of it. So then we realize we can choose what entertainment to partake in, because it's all relatively the same as long as the "need" for feeling like you exist is fulfilled. What difference does it make if emotions play a role in choosing what entertainment to partake in, then?

I know I don't need to ""go back in time,"" for example, but it's the entertainment I'd like to partake in, that's how I would prefer to fulfill my "need" to feel that I exist.



Like what?



Isn't everything symbolic of the trinity, the trinity being chaos/order/perception (perception being "in between" the interactions of chaos and order)

And what is the "function" of teeth beyond crushing food and articulating sounds? What's the function of wisdom teeth that grow in sideways and cause constant pain?



Can that be said unilaterally? Does it not depend on the system of logic being used when the action is performed?

No, of course the experience is still present, but the "conscious" experience -- which is the only experience we really "have," no matter how aware of something you are you can only be aware of what you're aware of (English limited once again, as ofc you can't be totally aware of what you're aware of.) -- is of a different flavor when the difference is appreciated. And that's in being aware of the decision to perceive change.

"Magenta" didn't exist before just now. I just made it up. It seems as though it's always existed, and I can have many experiences surrounding perceiving the color magenta and the ideas associated with it without being aware of just how I "made it come in to existence," but the perception of "making something come into existence" is an other flavor of perception unto itself. And I think that there is also value in that experience, as there must be because it is an experience.


Sure, but now with you having said that, I can "access" those perspectives and see how only one part is different, or how it can be seen as 500 different things. In difference, there is "learning"

Though I see better now what merging 2022 with 2012/1 would mean.



The landscape, though, comes through syntax. This is the case even with handicapped versions such as English; two people can both be using English, but depending on how they structure English in their minds, they will have vastly different internal and external experiences.

Just one example of a more complex set would be helpful. Not to copy, to learn from. Though I guess maybe the as-of-yet-mysterious second part of implementing neuronics may make it easier to "combine" simple sets ("green" + "apple") since that will probably make it easier to perceive "actual results" as opposed to just defining something in neuronics.

Affirmative! Go Go Go!

The problem with wisdom teeth and the positioning of all teeth is mostly due to improper tongue positioning habit during and after the growth of the teeth.
The tongue should always be positioned on the upper palate behind the teeth when at rest. It should make a sort of vacuum.
At least that's my understanding of this problem.


I think modern cirkumcision is still only the removal of the skin around the head of the penis.


I think it is because water dilutes gastric acid and other stuff that the body produce to digest the food. From what I know, people should abstain from water 15 minutes before a meal and 30 minutes after, one can wet the mouth with a little bit of water if it is dry just before eating.

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This should be taken in the context of the conversation.

The 'beneficial' something in this case is not using salt at all.

"Why not just do without it rather than replacing it with something that is worse for you?".

There is no need to consume salt in one's diet. It is not 'potentially beneficial' in the way of health.

By saying, "Oftentimes the physical brain, bathing in fear, will drum up all kinds of excuses not to do something that might prove beneficial." I am referring to the various reasons given for not wanting to remove salt.

Hope that clarifies it.

Yes, and as I've often said one doesn't need to do anything, be anyone, evolve, grow, etc.

However, emotions usually cannot be sustained. When used to make decisions and act, it is often a poor choice.

Or, think of it this way:

Logic & Rationality = time-tested and longer-lived

Emotions & Chaos = experimental and short-lived

The sweet spot is a strict framework of rationality within which there is freedom to pursue those things that help one feel alive.



These folks explain it better than I can:

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Some things are more representative of Order, some more of Chaos, and some more of the equilibrium between the two. Think of the teeth as a kind of primal physical representation of the trinity that reflects this equilibrium more than other manifestations of it, such as the groin area.



Many, but my favourite is that it is a transmitter and receiver of 'life force' due to harmonic resonance with the voice and its ability to more easily pick up vibrations from others on the same type of frequency (such as people).

Wisdom teeth growing sideways and such are more of a reaction to certain vibrations, like an incompatibility that causes them to misgrow.



The question was:



so my response was regarding those systems that do that. In an other system, the purpose might be different (but not that I'm aware of).

I misread, thanks for clarifying

Speaking from a physical perspective, ofc I know all of this "originates" from the present but:

There was one incident in 2020 that sparked my interest in "going back" and exploring things differently. The details are uninteresting but the spark was fueled by guilt, mostly. Which is an emotion. Fervently I looked for ways to make it happen, I already had the suspicion that time wasn't linear. Then the emotion that sparked the idea became resolved, as they do, being transient.

But the idea, or the intent, I guess, remains, regardless of my emotional state, nor am I looking for a particular emotional state to fulfill by "going back." I fully recognize and embrace that it won't "make me happy," but that isn't the goal.

Edit: I guess I don't understand what framework of rationality to use that would also give me the freedom to choose to ""go back."" The ""going back"" isn't really the desire, perceiving making a host of different choices is the desire (as opposed to perceiving a 2022 where the choices were made differently, if that makes sense), where the choices are more beneficial to me than the ones I, from this perspective, did make. ""Going back"" is just the means. I don't really care how I get back, though I think I'd prefer to just wake up there as that seems to be the simplest thing, but idk.

Rationally, time isn't linear in the way its commonly conceived (its "linear" in that perception moves from ""past"" to ""future,"" or from contraction to expansion, but that doesn't depend on years and such). Rationally, the only difference between the now-present and the past-present is the representation. To perceive making the more-beneficial choices, those have to be married with an overarching rationality, which I suppose I don't yet have.

Just rambling, I guess

You know, thinking about the advice you gave about the metaphysical meeting, to focus on the surroundings because we/I am the surroundings, that's sort of the key, isn't it?

The "first time" I interpreted a time non-linearly, 2020 to 2015ish, it was after I "meditated" with the intent to perceive 2015 and focused on where I'd be, but more on the position of the furniture that'd be around me.

The second and third times weren't so obvious, the second time I couldn't tell you what I was focusing on. Consciously, on the show I was watching. Un/subconsciously, I don't know. I felt absolutely terrible though for about an hour before- and after- hand and there was a marked excess in sprite/static activity. The third time I just woke up "in the past," briefly, but I hadn't paid any conscious focus before I went to sleep.



Huh, good to know

Edit: started waiting a half hour between drinking and eating and an hour between eating and drinking and so far, no more heartburn! That's neat:)


Oh, yeah that's neat. I can see, sort of, how that works.



Fair enough

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