Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

It sounds like you are better at listening to your flow than I was! I would sometimes try to power through because I thought it was the path I wanted, only to have increasingly big NOPEs thrown in my path until I caved. Like being pinned in my car by a malfunctioning gate while on the way to a test type of stuff. Of course I see now how that path was not for me, but I guess we are all where we are because we aren’t where we aren’t.

This makes me want to attempt a (hopefully) harmless experiment.

There is someone that I miss and do not have a way to contact. Don’t ask how I have made this jump but it seems like their position in my perspective is currently occupied by the phone charger by my bed (maybe ‘cherished’ is a stretch but it certainly helps me every day).

Should it be a true thought experiment - mentally place that person on my tiny bedside table? Or shall I throw away the cable and see what happens?

ps this isn’t the known replacement I alluded to a few posts up but an increasingly suspected one…

Dude…I’m finally on a roll with not getting ip blocked and it is to let through posts like replacing my charger with my long lost friend…

Only sometimes, lol. I was going to go into pharmacy and slogged through the entire certification (a second attempt, the first attempt was stopped by a car accident and a disabling injury), got a fantastic job, and then failed to get to the first day four times. First two, two separate cars broke down. Third I was sick. Fourth my phone didn't change time zones AND I got lost on my way there (new city), so I was about 3 hours late. My Self was throwing all it could at me telling me to Not. Finally got the message lol, I definitely don't want to go into pharmacy



May be a strange question, but have you done this and posted about it here before? I could have sworn that in the OG thread I read this exact post. I just tried searching for it and nothing's coming up, though.

At any rate, OP's suggestion was to replace it. What would you say to your friend?

Yes! I think I mentioned it when I finished the main thread - so sometime about a year ago - but I won’t bother digging it up either. I think I just said that I suspected it and felt oddly comforted by it.

I never attempted to make a swap for the ‘real person’ however. I guess I still use the same cord and have been content to leave it at that.

I think I even thought about what I would say to them (in human form) and it is nothing earth-shattering: ‘your friendship really meant more to me than I ever got to express’ type of stuff. It was the type of thing where we always seemed to be thinking the same thing and I guess, thinking more about that, what is the point of that when you already have yourself? And this battery isn’t going to recharge itself so…maybe things were best left as is?

Still up for trying though!

And thank you for sharing the story of why you aren’t a pharmacist. Eerily similar to some of my own ‘wrong path’ experiences for sure.

Oh good, I'm not crazy :P

When I asked what you'd say to them, I was sort of thinking that you should physically talk to the cord. However, now that I think about it, may be it'd do to "translate" what you would say into how you interact with the cord. Treating it kindly and thinking of what you'd say to your friend while doing so.

Also, if your friend's position is "away" and that correlates to the cord being near the bed, maybe changing the cord's location (may be not altogether throwing it out, though) would correlate to them being "closer." Unsure though



You're welcome :) it's been difficult, being a pharmacist was The Plan since I was about 15. Changing direction means I don't really know where I'm going. I'm not really registering any perspective blocks to the "time travel" thing (you know, like catastrophes) besides my own fear, so I'm sticking with that for now knowing that if it happens it'll be an entirely new experience. Which is scary, too

Questions about what happens after death!

So, it makes sense to me that in cultures with really strong structures they experience pretty much what they'd expect to after death, since their entire life they've been interacting with symbols that make that after-death experience make sense.

What happens to the average westerner these days though, what with us being so "scientific" and also multicultural? The after-death procedures seem like kind of a crap shoot in those conditions. Of course, when "other people" die, they're not "going anywhere." But when I die, I assume I will experience something that will be a complete reality unto itself. Say I dropped all of this and didn't intentionally structure an after-death experience, and died of old age; what would be likely to "happen?"

I've already "died" traumatically and life just kept on as if it didn't happen, but I figure that'd be more difficult to pull off if the cause of death was age

I doubt that modern western christians experience the heaven/hell that's described, because although that's technically structured, it's laden with other associations

Cashless society also brings people that dont want to be 100% governed, reinventing a black market. Gold, silver, will be best suited for untraceable trades from governing bodies. Sure there will be digital coins that claim privacy. And I stand here today wanting to trade in potential freedom for cult dollars.


I found myself in 'others' choosing physical gold instead of BTC. Reduced action into two paths, realize I chose the wrong one.


The cult would love to have an abundance source of X and charge a godly amount for X, electricity, oil, and not soon enough, gold.


Will China lead the world into gold back governing currency? Gold backed digital Yuan hits us when? 2022?

Something else that bothers me about 'finding a logical narrative:' once you think of a narrative, isn't it already "fulfilled"?

Can't wait for these texts to be uploaded on blockchain. Then AI assistant can pull all relevant keywords 'finding a logical narrative' & "fulfilled”. Then a cheat sheet is complied.

Ah man, had a dream I woke up "in the past." I was so excited. My "reality check" system, to tell if I'm dreaming or not, is not so well developed lol. If it was, would've been obvious it was a dream

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Thread: Notes from an "alternate universe". Introduction to a new way of thinking. (Page 149)

BRICS -> Gold-backed CBDC? 2022?

I keep trying to ask if the last example of field notation method neuronics contains a mistake. In doing so, I am using a lot of three letter words that begin with ‘j’ and that might be part of my ban issue? If this is vague enough to get through, I would love to know if it is my reading that is incorrect or a typo :)

What is the way you're doing it now?


Yes. It would help to map the new perspective, to bring it 'closer'.



Would gold be an easy 10x from where you're standing?

The FTMs that really matter are a giant window into how the Cult operates.





















and my personal favourite


https://youtu.be/geev441vbMI?t=6


and hundreds of thousands more...

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Interpreting cult like articles on the internet. There is no real way besides 'finding myself in others' leap of faith, path of least gold resistance. Buying into fugazi of gold is rare and paper gold is not rare and current market is a representation of paper gold and not rare gold. How would I observe the destruction of paper market?



To the hoarding closet we go! I can picture in meta what pieces are missing from my house deed and I can start to build the reality. This girl bought a toddler girl outfit that she is storing in her closet. But she doesn't believe that will bridge the reality of her having a girl anytime soon. Is she in for a surprise, hehe?


If paper market gets toasted, yes. From where I am standing the story line seems super efficient that it should happen here and now, if it was ever to happen. And I gave myself another year of 'waiting' turns out someone is returning back home. My plan was to have the 10x happen before this person would return. And now new news of his return, unexpected plans.

What if I am FTM blind. For whatever reason my mind scans the FTM and I only mostly see M. Besides Destroyer of worlds knowledge voice in mind saying, inversion, that's FTM. Nowadays inner voice says it's probably cult inversion at play.

Riddance of gold and buy meta knowledge of cults operations and that would lead to 10x as I would know what they are building towards next and promoting~> need some they live cult glasses plz.

I agree, but there is a possibility some of what he said is true outside of the soul trap matrix. Within here, within the soul trap matrix every bit of information you are given is to decieve you. Simple logic states that if an entity is hiding information aka classified, top secret information that you can not see.. then what we are allowed to know is a lie of the illusion/matrix.

Then what is 'buy a fantom'

This was very silly, too. "Lucid dreaming" is a point of frustration for me because I often, in dreams, I'll go "oh this is probably a dream," or, "I wonder if this is a dream" and then not actually have that moment of lucidity. That definitely happened with this dream, because I realized I "woke up in the past," was very excited, considered that it may be a dream, and even checked. I have a very large scar on my arm that wouldn't be present if it wasn't a dream, and the scar was indeed present, but it still didn't register that I was dreaming. Same thing a bit later with a pair of shoes, I registered that I wouldn't have them yet if I was ""actually in the past,"" yet I didn't connect that to meaning I was dreaming. Feels very silly to look back on upon waking

It's been said that "lucid dreaming" is more like experience from the body's perspective, how does that relate to being in flow while being "awake" (vs dreaming)? I sort of assumed that being in flow and seeing that you build reality would feel like lucid dreaming, but they must feel different since they're not quite the same thing

We get the sense of existence not by re-membering what we are (the Absolute) but by forgetting.

The Absolute ('God', 'All That Is', etc) cannot perceive because it is Truth. Truth is beyond perspective. What we have is reality; a consensus of things that seem true that comes about by the things we focus upon.

Who or what makes up the consensus? The things that you, yourself, have made up and appear to have given a life of their own.

In order to perceive, you must forget that you are what you are perceiving. What you perceive must seem to be separate from you.

The goal, you could say, is to distract yourself from Truth so that you can sense existence. How? With convincing dramas and supporting perceptions.

Let's imagine that you are in a giant room of nothingness and you are learning how to exist. You pretend to cut your being in half in order to give life to both halves. Your focus upon you cutting your Self in half is the drama that produces the perspective of your Self*. You then choose a perspective from which to perceive the other half of your Self. The other half is doing things and you are mesmerised by it. You feel alive because of what you're sensing. Just then, you look around the room and see how vast and empty it is... UH OHES! Time for a distraction. Your other half creates a crowd of people in an instant to distract you. You look over for a moment.. you're not sure if it's real. Where did these people come from? Is it a trick of the mind? But then.. there is an explosion. A few people have been injured. There is blood all over. You begin to focus more on this drama (even though you just made it up through several layers of proxies of the Self) because it seems real. It's horrible, so it must be real. You then begin to listen to the stories of the people involved and forget, for the next 75 years (at least according to a time that isn't really there) that you made it all up. But as you begin to sense the direction of the Absolute ("beyond the veil") you create more distractions (e.g., all of the 'crazy' goings-on in the world today). How to balance this? By building a new world upon which to focus rather than the old one that you are starting to see the holes in.

*this is how you build. You pretend that something is so that you can focus on it. The focus builds the reality. That they are not 'real' is irrelevant. The reality is in the relationships between illusions.

It's a bit hard to describe, but it's probably more accurate to say that I take the perspective that I'm most comfortable with (which is the same as my current experience).

My current experience is that which produces the sense of existence with the least amount of inputs.

"We perceive that which takes the least amount of relationships to perceive", so to speak.


Yes.

Practically-speaking, however, it is less technical than it sounds. The 'new information' is more like 'I'm gonna get my sense of existence with this now...'

I find out how the narrative I 'want' makes more sense than the current, then focus on its details and how the one 'desired' interacts with my current experience.

"It's all ready here. You just aren't seeing it yet."


They are all ready there but I just made them relate differently, in a 'new' narrative.

An analogy of this would be that you have a task: Add up as many numbers together as you want, but the sum must be greater than any one number you use. It sounds so easy, right? How could any one number be more than the sum?

It's difficult because when we focus on the numbers we are using we forget that there was any task to begin with and end up not adding them together at all.

'Seeing reality' is like understanding that you are choosing numbers, doing so for a purpose, and understanding that you could easily choose different numbers to reach your goal (as long as you don't again forget).

I choose a new narrative (a new set of numbers to add up to make something). The new narrative I found to be more logical than the 'previous' one. The examples you referenced above are just what I have chosen in the new narrative. This narrative helps me to not forget that there is a bigger picture involved. It drops the breadcrumbs so I don't get lost in the summing up, so to speak.

The goal here isn't to figure out reality (which is irrelevant, since the ultimate authority is beyond perspective) but to build new, more efficient distractions.


Yes. The 'facts' that were just made up.


Yes, you could say that.

The 'change' is just an other distraction that makes more sense, given 'new information' (that was just made up).


This has more to do with the nature of time. It is a sense that goes in two directions, in different ways, you could say.

Using one of the above examples, human photosynthesis did not 'exist' before I wrote about it and made it a part of my logical narrative. Having done so, it becomes retroactive to somewhere around the beginning of what we call humanity. (Nothing to do with what the Cult teaches, of course.)

Before: Human photosynthesis was never so

Now: Human photosynthesis was all ways so

Having 'built' this concept into my logical narrative, now it can develop a life of its own in all directions of time and space.

This is how Maria (or anyone here) can have an effect or influence someone in history, for example, without 'time travelling'. That person, even if they are playing the role of active Cult member (like a certain Albert), is a part of her narrative and exists in it now rather than in a past time that is long gone. As the narrative changes so does that historical person, and history itself.

The greatest wonders of the world that you could possibly imagine or think of... exist only in the perspective that you build.

Again, it's something that we are each doing at every moment. Without this process there is no sense of reality.

We 'hide' it for a reason. (We are threatening our very existence by figuring it out. That is why new distractions must go along with the 'figuring out' part. It is also why these threads will end up being about 20 years old by the time I finish.. we must build an other world while destroying the one we are in.)

It may, therefore, seem quite complicated but the sense of existence (and the process behind it) is an exceedingly simple thing.

"Sense what makes sense to sense"

You seem to be thinking of it more from the perspective of this brand of physical consciousness, perhaps with a bit of scientific method thrown in. It is possible that you could do it that way (make observations, make conjectures, etc.) but it would probably take far more effort to do so.

The game is entirely yours. The rules are yours. You don't need to observe anything, or make conjectures. You can simply build a new perspective, just as you did/do when there was nothing to observe and no conjectures to make.

We could say that going through the process of making observations and conjectures and building from that is your logical narrative, yes. But it also removes you as the author of your entire reality. You are observing... your Self. Your conjectures... don't actually exist until you need them to. What you build... isn't based off of anything at all (it only seems to be if you need it to, in order for it to make sense).

When you're dreaming, for example, it may make sense that an elephant is in your bathroom. You made up the narrative in an instant. That is your reality at the time and your current one is no different. In this brand of physicality (a more dense dream world) our physical bodies and physical senses (that are also a part of the 'dream') tell us other things make more sense. But they are more like suggestions than laws. When you 'break' a law your Self doesn't care that you have broken it. You simply make the previous one irrelevant and focus on how the new one makes sense and it has all ways been so.

A shortcut would be "This sleep pattern makes more sense that what I think is my current sleep pattern because _______." And then focus on the new perspective where that makes sense. There's no need to think about how it relates to your old one, old assumptions, or any other legacy artefact. Render it irrelevant.

We naturally want to make things more complicated, for that is how we sense our existence.

The process you describe is far more simple than that.

Just build in a way that would make sense. Nevermind what you have or don't have; those will be the 'gaps' that your mind can fill in later.

In your example, "massive computing capabilities" isn't missing. The awareness of what you do naturally (i.e., massively compute, as you think of it) is, so that would be the gap.

Build a narrative where it would make sense to be aware of your inherent abilities, and your mind will fill in the gaps.

Keep in mind, however, that becoming 'aware' of this would go against your nature (which is compelled by a desire to sense existence). Then the question would be: what is the narrative where being aware of my inherent capabilities makes sense?

This has some other false assumptions, such as that you are massively computing to begin with (rather than just producing your reality as you need to). That doesn't matter, however, as you can produce a reality where you are doing just that, and being aware of the process (that you just made up).


Telepathy is cool, but it's just perspective. You wouldn't be 'reading the mind' of someone else, of course. That person is you. You would be sensing your Self and making up the thoughts as you go along.

I don't really discuss this because the morality can be confusing to many/most, but it's an interesting topic. (e.g., would I be telling you what to think if I read your mind?). When you sense anything you are being telepathic because you are building reality completely as you sense it.


As the sense diminishes from one thing, new things are produced.

An example of this would be if someone separated from a loved one and, unbeknownst to them, produced some major new distraction in their life around the same time.

The ability for the drama to be sustained is not about simplicity or complexity by itself, but the person's needs. Some people would be fine to sit down in a chair with a book for 2 hours and sense their existence, whereas for someone else it would be painful for 2 minutes (as they begin to sense not existing). I'm sure we all know people like this that need to constantly 'do something'.


My pleasure :)

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Can you identify in <15 words what that is?


It's being developed in the mind. I haven't yet begun to write/design, but once I do it will take a few days. I tend to work on things when I have a need to understand them more.

So the word "want" is a rough one, apologies that this will probably be clunky

So if there are two narratives, NA and NB, and NA is the "current narrative" and NB is the "wanted narrative," having the want of NB in NA is how NB is currently interacting with NA, right?



Somewhere in here I will attempt to reduce it to <15 words, but the problem I'm having has to do with the NA/NB stuff above and



The problem may be with still thinking in English, but say you identify a narrative you'd prefer ("NB") from the "current" narrative ("NA"), then you identify a logical narrative to bridge the two and you get NC. But once you identify "NC," its all ready fully represented as "NC," so there's no reason for it to be experienced physically, necessarily.

The "this" referred to above is, I think, in 15 words: working backwards from "NB"to create "smaller" leaps of logic that become executable from "NA"

I guess what I don't "get" is how to ""guarantee"" (more or less) an outcome, especially considering "NC" is all ready represented as "NC" mentally. Like in the case of "meeting a Spanish girl," going back a step from that would be "frequenting places one might find a Spanish girl." But, going to such a place, how are you sure you'd meet a Spanish girl? Especially since the intention is to meet a Spanish girl, and the Spanish girl is represented in the intention

There's also all ways potential for something else, that you don't expect, to happen

I think a problem I'm personally having is that I've identified "NB," the narrative I'd prefer — "being in 2012," building a set of projects and experiences from there — but I can't figure out "NC," the logical narrative to get from "NA" to "NB" that isn't just "wake up there." Not very specific, certainly not executable. I can see so clearly how to build things in a conventionally-linear fashion, like the projects I'd like to get to work on when I'm "in 2012," I know how and when to build models of those to have them bloom into what I'd like them to and more. Having issues applying the same to the "getting to 2012 from 2022" thing



The only logical thing I can think that would lead to "waking up in 2012" (or something to a similar effect) is "learning" how to execute, so to speak, the mental protocol that is neuronics. Though how that will "work" is as of yet still fuzzy

And I'm excited abt dragons and giants. Eagerly awaiting metaphy 2

Thohts?

Each time communism appears in history it has a different name and face, but it is still the same anti-consciousness and anti-human ideology.

Are we still in the 'destroying faith in institutions' phase? I forget the time-line

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