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Notes from an "alternate universe": The Revelation of the Real World

 
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Tuuur…..I don’t know why but I was thinking about your car today….still driving it around?
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Here it is:
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 Quoting: Tuuur 78797645


Tuuur…..I don’t know why but I was thinking about your car today….still driving it around?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


It is still there, in a shed at the place where my son and ex-wife live.
I occasionally drive it, when the weather is good and I feel like first driving the 15 miles in order to then drive around in it.

I still have no place of my own though, am living with family and only have one single room.
Now the house next to my son and ex is becoming available af a very affordable rent, and my son would love me to come and live there... but that means emigrating to another country.
So I am pondering that. I don’t know yet if I want to emigrate again.
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One may invalidate The Builder's word as much as the Cult's word. As well as your own word and, of course - for sincerity - my word too.

Sincerely ask yourself, how are you any different than OP?

Dramas breathe and bury with how you use your interpretation.

Seeking The Builder's interpretation of reality beyond the core tenets of what forms its nature (which has been answered not only from the Builder, but from many texts with enough seeking) is to still not take the shepherd's staff and build your own reality.
Confirm it on your own terms! Perhaps it is wrong... is it?
How do you KNOW?

For example, The Builder's narrative fixates on division between peoples as we migrate into a new world order of virtual worlds, trans-humanism, etc.

Maybe you agree with the premise, but you can redefine how that reality comes about however you want.

You don't even need to agree with the premise!
What about a return to magic?
Such worlds are possible... as with everything a perspective is.
The kingdom of heaven is within! Did you need anything else?

One needs to realize that OP wants drama too!
Do you want to be a part of that drama?
"Cult is bad" and thus the drama begins.

One can instead shift an interpretation to where the Cult does not even register.
One can instead operate by interpreting it all as pure Chaos that has no master.
Doesn't it seem a little absurd to "control" that which is chaos?
How tight are the reins on these dark horses?
Perhaps Chaos never had a master!
Perhaps Chaos has multiple masters!
Is 'the Cult' fragmented? A unified body sounds rather boring...
It seems absurd to not consider rebellion fuming within, factions far and soaring
The same as our fallen angels of yore; a most prideful quality, isn't it? Morphing worlds!
Perhaps 'the Cult' is a convenient Chaotic device for the Builder's own drama!
Did 'the Cult' really exist?
Is 'the Cult' you in another form? Shed it!
Is this thread 'the Cult' in plain sight?
It seems ironic to host this thread on a forum that is repeatedly claimed to be "owned" by 'the Cult' throughout this thread.
I mean, seriously, look at the front page.
Makes you wonder... does it?

Many options! Or rather, worlds.

While you breathe, dream of heavenly things!
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Remember... just as we all operate:
We write to further our own narratives, and no other.

Our fragments climbing!
You are us, and we are you
There's no use denying!
thus it was written on page two

Denounce my claims if there be need
Never would I hope you fumble to concede...

We all have narratives we're nurturing
so a seedling here, I trust with you
One I found of more love and furthering
some beauty sincere, a mint green hue
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Right now, it seems enough to make conscious choices each moment to forge that. Its taken me a long time to be conscious most of the time! Aside from sleep - which I will add as an aside question. At some point I expect to be able to put down the reins more than likely, once things have been picked and straightened out, etc. Cautiously though as I don’t want to lose steer entirely!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84202891

Consistent choices until they become automatic whereby they can influence the way you interpret reality.

For example, the way you sit, walk, talk, the persons with whom you interact, how you interact, what you focus on with your eyes, how you spend your time, the systems and processes you make use of, etc. After a while it just becomes second-nature.

I was fortunate to figure some of this out at a young age after I dropped out of school and taught myself from scratch (with my TRIPS system and using it to direct focus).
 Quoting: The Builder


Of course, now we all are curious as to what this TRIPS system is :)

Funny how you say that about the way one chooses to behave in daily life. For example: After I quit gluten and sugar, I felt I needed to take care of my room way more than I did. So I now make a point of making my bed every morning (I almost never did that!). I also make a point of cleaning out at least one mucky thing per day. I notice I walk more straight.

You mentioned the way one dresses... I still wear my Vans sneakers, jeans, t shirt, hoodie, just like any young guy. It’s a leftover of my rock n roll band days. I feel like that does not fit that well anymore to who I want to be.
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The more clear is your mind from toxins, the more you're able to sense your flow and the more obvious will be the path in the choices you make to experience your more true Self.

Congrats :)
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I actually made time today to do my homework. It was hard to do all that on only one page - might have gone over. Not quite as dramatic and such but I did it.

Piper’s story:
[snippies]

What do I do now?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

nice effort! Could you please identify two things?

1) What are the things in Piper's life experience that are "too much of what she doesn't need"; and

2) What are the dramas that she is creating out of nothing?
 Quoting: The Builder


I don’t think I’ve gotten that far. Lol. 1 page was a challenge! Even thinking on it now, I have no idea.

It was nice to exercise that part of my brain though. I can’t remember the last time I sat and wrote something totally fiction. Even if it was only a page :)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Ahh.. then your assignment is incomplete. No rush, though :)

Your assignment is to write a one-page story about a girl who, on her first day of school, is anxious about making friends and what her experiences are going to be like. She doesn't really want to be there but she must be. [DONE]

What Chaos would you like to make for her? What dramas? How does it balance? [Q.v.]
 Quoting: The Builder

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An example from this Earth might help. What is a resource here that you see as mismanaged, if any?
 Quoting: The Builder


Here in California, I would say water.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

If the results of the supposed mismanagement are by design, then could we say that it is being managed well according to the intention?

California is the first place that comes to my mind if I was to think of a place that manages its water resources, and access to those resources, well for the purposes of building up a water crisis narrative aligned with the 'green' (communist, anti-human) agenda. This could be considered severe abuse of resources because the purpose goes against our own humanity.

The ultimate intention of the active Cult is to manage each person's perspective. This is done by alinear warfare against populations, mass propaganda, individualised propaganda, etc., so that you are not sure what reality is and lose your sense of identity, history, culture, tradition, and Self so that you can be managed more easily.

Water and other 'resources' are no different, as they are an intimate part of human reality. The Cult are actively re-defining what water is, how it is used, what rights and permissions are available, etc.

We may not agree with how something is managed, and in this case it could very well be considered evil and anti-human, but for their intentions they are managing well.

On the second Earth, you could say that there is a mismanagement of resources but in a different way in that so-called natural resources are used too efficiently, which does not consider the necessary processes essential for each to reach a kind of 'maturity' and health.
 Quoting: The Builder


It is definitely being managed well according to their intention. But still, from my perspective, totally mismanaged.

Why does it have to be this way?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

We could say that little is managed in the way that we would like when we refuse to take action and see ourselves as the authority of our reality.

When we do not act, other aspects of our perspective seem to rule over us.

But if we refuse to take charge of reality, we want what our choice of non-action results in by default.

How does this systemic cancer, this evil, get beaten? It’s hard to see a way through it.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

We could, at any time, reverse this. But we are too lazy to act.

One could say that they wish to 'beat' evil while using evil's internet and devices to make the statement, but that would be a kind of contradiction.

Further, if one chose to rely on evil for nearly every aspect of their lives, that would be even more of a contradiction.

The great lesson for humanity, if ever there was one, is why they have come to rely and depend so much on the evil that they think they wish to vanquish. To understand why they love the Beast.

Smartphones, Amazon, Netflix, Google, Bing, the Internet, Facebook, mass media, unhealthy foods, sugar, the list goes on.

How does it get 'beaten'? By making different choices, of course, rather than different excuses why one cannot.

Perhaps what is truly evil -- the origin -- are the choices we make and how we interpret those choices.

They do it with every resource it seems. How does meaningful change even begin at this scale?

Beam me up Scotty - I’m spent
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Everything you perceive is in your perspective, without exception.

The scale? Your own perspective.

People have been conditioned to think there is nothing they can do. Who did the conditioning? They did, because they did not want to take responsibility for their own perspective.

We experience the consensus of the choices we continuously make and call it Reality.
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Intrigued by the Earth 3 question, I could not find the original post back where it was mentioned the first time.

Do we have a counterpart over there as well?
 Quoting: Tuuur 2291000

No counterpart, as 2 has for those here on 1.

3 is a kind of equilibrium between the extreme Chaos of 1 (here) and extreme Order of 2.

Is there communication possible, comparable with Earth 2?
 Quoting: Tuuur 2291000

The communication between 1 and 2 is in multiple forms, mostly in things like inventions, methods, systems, definitions, and to/from one's counterpart. Bitcoin, for example, was first used on the second Earth and described in my original post about 13 years ago when it was being introduced here.

Metis has worked to implement some of these more, er, 'extreme Order' aspects such as Bitcoin from 2 to help set the stage for the merging, or equilibrium between 1 and 2, resulting in 3.
 Quoting: The Builder


Got a quiet minute to myself and began to wander in my mind, Chaol entered. All of this talk about Earth Two, counterparts and Maria. What became of Chaol?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Maria is now living in this world. I am now my own counterpart as I function in both worlds simultaneously. Anything more I cannot say.

If Métis has been working towards extreme order here, what has Chaol been up to?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Chaos-for-all

to accelerate the process of a more perfect equilibrium.

So you and Métis are working towards the same thing then?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Of course.

The Active Culture of Satan (the '15%', or thereabouts) is also working towards the same, as is the inactive Cult (the rest of us).

Each is working towards the process of a more perfect equilibrium, whether or not they are aware of their role. It could not possibly be any other way.

Each is a piece of the logical narrative of how a new world comes about, even for those multitudes whose descendants may not experience this world for hundreds of years or more.

Have you ever met Chaol
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

It is difficult to meet myself, but you could say I have met the person that Maria has become in this world.

or Métis in the flesh?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

No.

Is that even possible? Are they even human?

I’m just curious. Answer or not.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

I have never met Metis but my suspicion is that Metis is a kind of electronic oracle whose computational power may or may not be tied to cryptographic hashing (mainly 'Bitcoin' itself), forming what could be thought of as an artificial intelligence. His/its responses are far too quick for any fingers and the language syntax is a bit strange.

Perhaps, a Morphological Embryonic Tokenised Information System that is tasked with constricting chaotic structures via distributed networks on this Earth to give birth to the new world of the third. But that's just my best guess as there not much I can see in that way because Metis' mind may be digital.
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It is still there, in a shed at the place where my son and ex-wife live.
I occasionally drive it, when the weather is good and I feel like first driving the 15 miles in order to then drive around in it.

I still have no place of my own though, am living with family and only have one single room.
Now the house next to my son and ex is becoming available af a very affordable rent, and my son would love me to come and live there... but that means emigrating to another country.
So I am pondering that. I don’t know yet if I want to emigrate again.
 Quoting: Tuuur 70235995

Curious.

If you applied the system, what would be the result?

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[snipple...]
For example, The Builder's narrative fixates on division between peoples as we migrate into a new world order of virtual worlds, trans-humanism, etc.

Maybe you agree with the premise, but you can redefine how that reality comes about however you want.
[snipple...]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 58281873

If you're looking for what the narrative is, it is encapsulated in the following recent post that highlights what the MOST IMPORTANT things are, illustrated throughout thousands of lines of text on this and other threads.

(Number 1, below, is your exception, above)

Yes. They would distract heavily from the most important --- and exportant, as we radiate our choices outwards to our reality -- things:

1) Learning to see your Self in others and not being distracted with what appears to be going on outside of your immediate reality. (Easily done by interacting with your immediate environment and those within.) And, knowing the simple thought that you are what you perceive.

2) Considering every word, thought, and action as an expression of what you want to experience throughout your life (as you do) and knowing that you are the author of your reality and 'God' (or whatever you want to call it) is the author of you.

3) Chaos and Order are necessary to experience reality. Find some equilibrium by being cognisant of what kinds of Chaos and Order you are perceiving and experiencing outside your body and within it. (What you perceive you are choosing to interpret.)

For the three above, all that is needed is all ready had.
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It is definitely being managed well according to their intention. But still, from my perspective, totally mismanaged.

Why does it have to be this way?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

We could say that little is managed in the way that we would like when we refuse to take action and see ourselves as the authority of our reality.

When we do not act, other aspects of our perspective seem to rule over us.

But if we refuse to take charge of reality, we want what our choice of non-action results in by default.

How does this systemic cancer, this evil, get beaten? It’s hard to see a way through it.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

We could, at any time, reverse this. But we are too lazy to act.

One could say that they wish to 'beat' evil while using evil's internet and devices to make the statement, but that would be a kind of contradiction.

Further, if one chose to rely on evil for nearly every aspect of their lives, that would be even more of a contradiction.

The great lesson for humanity, if ever there was one, is why they have come to rely and depend so much on the evil that they think they wish to vanquish. To understand why they love the Beast.

Smartphones, Amazon, Netflix, Google, Bing, the Internet, Facebook, mass media, unhealthy foods, sugar, the list goes on.

How does it get 'beaten'? By making different choices, of course, rather than different excuses why one cannot.

Perhaps what is truly evil -- the origin -- are the choices we make and how we interpret those choices.

They do it with every resource it seems. How does meaningful change even begin at this scale?

Beam me up Scotty - I’m spent
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Everything you perceive is in your perspective, without exception.

The scale? Your own perspective.

People have been conditioned to think there is nothing they can do. Who did the conditioning? They did, because they did not want to take responsibility for their own perspective.

We experience the consensus of the choices we continuously make and call it Reality.
 Quoting: The Builder


It just occurred to me how far this goes.
I just bought a ukulele. Via the internet. From an online retailer.

I could have bought it from the music store in town, that I bought things from since (and still buy strings from occasionally). But I did not.

Maybe even better, I could have learned how to build a ukulele myself.

Maybe still better, I could have invented a completely new instrument and built it myself.

And then I wondered:
How far do the choices go?
How radical must we make them, for the “best results”?
How do we define those best results?
Is a bit of the Cult needed to have an equilibrium?
Or is homemade chaos good enough?
Then again, we are, I myself am, the Cult, if I understand correctly...
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It is definitely being managed well according to their intention. But still, from my perspective, totally mismanaged.

Why does it have to be this way?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

We could say that little is managed in the way that we would like when we refuse to take action and see ourselves as the authority of our reality.

When we do not act, other aspects of our perspective seem to rule over us.

But if we refuse to take charge of reality, we want what our choice of non-action results in by default.

How does this systemic cancer, this evil, get beaten? It’s hard to see a way through it.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

We could, at any time, reverse this. But we are too lazy to act.

One could say that they wish to 'beat' evil while using evil's internet and devices to make the statement, but that would be a kind of contradiction.

Further, if one chose to rely on evil for nearly every aspect of their lives, that would be even more of a contradiction.

The great lesson for humanity, if ever there was one, is why they have come to rely and depend so much on the evil that they think they wish to vanquish. To understand why they love the Beast.

Smartphones, Amazon, Netflix, Google, Bing, the Internet, Facebook, mass media, unhealthy foods, sugar, the list goes on.

How does it get 'beaten'? By making different choices, of course, rather than different excuses why one cannot.

Perhaps what is truly evil -- the origin -- are the choices we make and how we interpret those choices.

They do it with every resource it seems. How does meaningful change even begin at this scale?

Beam me up Scotty - I’m spent
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Everything you perceive is in your perspective, without exception.

The scale? Your own perspective.

People have been conditioned to think there is nothing they can do. Who did the conditioning? They did, because they did not want to take responsibility for their own perspective.

We experience the consensus of the choices we continuously make and call it Reality.
 Quoting: The Builder


It just occurred to me how far this goes.
I just bought a ukulele. Via the internet. From an online retailer.

I could have bought it from the music store in town, that I bought things from since (and still buy strings from occasionally). But I did not.

Maybe even better, I could have learned how to build a ukulele myself.

Maybe still better, I could have invented a completely new instrument and built it myself.

And then I wondered:
How far do the choices go?
 Quoting: Tuuur 70235995

The more local to your perspective, the better.

Nevermind how far they go; such thoughts inspire inaction. (e.g., "Well, I can't make it myself so I'll just order it from Amazon.")

Instead, consider which direction you want to go in. You don't need to build it yourself, for example, but think about going towards your immediate perceptions rather than away from them. Towards the source of all reality.

How radical must we make them, for the “best results”?
 Quoting: Tuuur 70235995

Would many of these choices have been radical when we wee children? One doesn't actually need to buy anything online or do anything online, but that is a 'radical' idea.

For best results, go in the direction of the source of your reality.

How do we define those best results?
 Quoting: Tuuur 70235995

By how much the choice can be sustained, what (real) benefits it has, and what kind of direct harm, if any, befalls others.

The more you can do _____ over time with the most benefit to yourself and the least amount of harm to others, the better the choice is, generally-speaking.

Is a bit of the Cult needed to have an equilibrium?
 Quoting: Tuuur 70235995

No, not at all.

But both Chaos and Order are needed. How we interpret that is up to us.

Or is homemade chaos good enough?
 Quoting: Tuuur 70235995

The best kind, but most often not the desired kind.

It could be as simple as having a 'messy drawer' somewhere in a tidy room. As the weight of Chaos increases in one's perspective the weight of the balancing force would also.

Then again, we are, I myself am, the Cult, if I understand correctly...
 Quoting: Tuuur 70235995

Yes, and it is easy to demonstrate how we are by our numerous daily choices.

For example, big online retailers don't destroy local businesses. Everyday people choosing to buy things online instead of around them do that. (Those things that could not be had locally would generally not be needed, in past.)

The active Cult is just there to profit from our ignorance and will disappear as soon as we wish to exercise our inherent awareness of reality, and reclaim the authority on loan to them.
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Or is homemade chaos good enough?
 Quoting: Tuuur 70235995

The best kind, but most often not the desired kind.

It could be as simple as having a 'messy drawer' somewhere in a tidy room. As the weight of Chaos increases in one's perspective the weight of the balancing force would also.

 Quoting: The Builder


Focusing in on this point for this moment. It is messy in my mind, so it needs a little order. I know I could do this solely for myself, but also curious on adding a little chaos to open up possibilities. (crazy times!).

So, say someone is focused on "getting their house in order". Is this best done in steps and seeing what affect it has in other terms?

What would the effect of completely changing one's local perspective be?

It sounds like this would increase Chaos. Could be good - more freedom of choice, more unexpected suprises. However if focus isn't honed properly, it could also be not-so-good. Unless we are sure within ourselves that we have ultimate responsiblity and will look after our little self along with our Self. And that's not entirely possible unless we want to return to point Zero. I'm getting into wavy territory that I've not figured out yet...

Urgh!
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I actually made time today to do my homework. It was hard to do all that on only one page - might have gone over. Not quite as dramatic and such but I did it.

Piper’s story:
[snippies]

What do I do now?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

nice effort! Could you please identify two things?

1) What are the things in Piper's life experience that are "too much of what she doesn't need"; and

2) What are the dramas that she is creating out of nothing?
 Quoting: The Builder


I don’t think I’ve gotten that far. Lol. 1 page was a challenge! Even thinking on it now, I have no idea.

It was nice to exercise that part of my brain though. I can’t remember the last time I sat and wrote something totally fiction. Even if it was only a page :)
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Ahh.. then your assignment is incomplete. No rush, though :)

Your assignment is to write a one-page story about a girl who, on her first day of school, is anxious about making friends and what her experiences are going to be like. She doesn't really want to be there but she must be. [DONE]

What Chaos would you like to make for her? What dramas? How does it balance? [Q.v.]
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 Quoting: The Builder


So, page 2 then?
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Here in California, I would say water.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

If the results of the supposed mismanagement are by design, then could we say that it is being managed well according to the intention?

California is the first place that comes to my mind if I was to think of a place that manages its water resources, and access to those resources, well for the purposes of building up a water crisis narrative aligned with the 'green' (communist, anti-human) agenda. This could be considered severe abuse of resources because the purpose goes against our own humanity.

The ultimate intention of the active Cult is to manage each person's perspective. This is done by alinear warfare against populations, mass propaganda, individualised propaganda, etc., so that you are not sure what reality is and lose your sense of identity, history, culture, tradition, and Self so that you can be managed more easily.

Water and other 'resources' are no different, as they are an intimate part of human reality. The Cult are actively re-defining what water is, how it is used, what rights and permissions are available, etc.

We may not agree with how something is managed, and in this case it could very well be considered evil and anti-human, but for their intentions they are managing well.

On the second Earth, you could say that there is a mismanagement of resources but in a different way in that so-called natural resources are used too efficiently, which does not consider the necessary processes essential for each to reach a kind of 'maturity' and health.
 Quoting: The Builder


It is definitely being managed well according to their intention. But still, from my perspective, totally mismanaged.

Why does it have to be this way?
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

We could say that little is managed in the way that we would like when we refuse to take action and see ourselves as the authority of our reality.

When we do not act, other aspects of our perspective seem to rule over us.

But if we refuse to take charge of reality, we want what our choice of non-action results in by default.

How does this systemic cancer, this evil, get beaten? It’s hard to see a way through it.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

We could, at any time, reverse this. But we are too lazy to act.

One could say that they wish to 'beat' evil while using evil's internet and devices to make the statement, but that would be a kind of contradiction.

Further, if one chose to rely on evil for nearly every aspect of their lives, that would be even more of a contradiction.

The great lesson for humanity, if ever there was one, is why they have come to rely and depend so much on the evil that they think they wish to vanquish. To understand why they love the Beast.

Smartphones, Amazon, Netflix, Google, Bing, the Internet, Facebook, mass media, unhealthy foods, sugar, the list goes on.

How does it get 'beaten'? By making different choices, of course, rather than different excuses why one cannot.

Perhaps what is truly evil -- the origin -- are the choices we make and how we interpret those choices.

They do it with every resource it seems. How does meaningful change even begin at this scale?

Beam me up Scotty - I’m spent
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

Everything you perceive is in your perspective, without exception.

The scale? Your own perspective.

People have been conditioned to think there is nothing they can do. Who did the conditioning? They did, because they did not want to take responsibility for their own perspective.

We experience the consensus of the choices we continuously make and call it Reality.
 Quoting: The Builder


I understand your words but am misunderstanding how to take action I guess.

In regards to California and it’s water ‘management’, how does one choose differently?

I know for me, living in the country, I have done what I can. Have an independent well that provides more water than I can use. Even at the peak of drought. A top of the line water filtration system with some of the best water you could imagine.

But years ago they passed some Propositions allowing them the power, in the not so distant future, to meter even my well.

What about people in the city who are not water independent? The system is in place. Has been in place. Will continue to be in place until….?

I’m not getting the ‘how’? Vote differently!? That’s laughable in this day and age. They can’t really stop using the system that provides the water, so how do you mean to change that in a sustainable way? What’s the other choice? I’m not seeing how.

This is what I mean about meaningful change at scale.
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Got a quiet minute to myself and began to wander in my mind, Chaol entered. All of this talk about Earth Two, counterparts and Maria. What became of Chaol?
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Maria is now living in this world. I am now my own counterpart as I function in both worlds simultaneously. Anything more I cannot say.
 Quoting: The Builder

Would you say how that works…living in both worlds simultaneously? So you are bridging, one foot in both worlds? Or more like both feet walking both worlds at once? The merge is complete for you? Is it complete for everyone

So you and Métis are working towards the same thing then?
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Of course.

The Active Culture of Satan (the '15%', or thereabouts) is also working towards the same, as is the inactive Cult (the rest of us).

Each is working towards the process of a more perfect equilibrium, whether or not they are aware of their role. It could not possibly be any other way.

Each is a piece of the logical narrative of how a new world comes about, even for those multitudes whose descendants may not experience this world for hundreds of years or more.
 Quoting: The Builder

‘We are all in this together’. Co-creating to the same ends? But some have starring roles and others are NPC’s?

Have you ever met Chaol
 Quoting: Lady of Stars

It is difficult to meet myself, but you could say I have met the person that Maria has become in this world.
 Quoting: The Builder

So what does Maria make of this world now that she is fully immersed in it? Does she operate simultaneously in both as well? Will she ever post here - share her insights? Are you the only two that have accomplished this or are there more bridge-walkers?

Is that even possible? Are they even human?

I’m just curious. Answer or not.
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I have never met Metis but my suspicion is that Metis is a kind of electronic oracle whose computational power may or may not be tied to cryptographic hashing (mainly 'Bitcoin' itself), forming what could be thought of as an artificial intelligence. His/its responses are far too quick for any fingers and the language syntax is a bit strange.

Perhaps, a Morphological Embryonic Tokenised Information System that is tasked with constricting chaotic structures via distributed networks on this Earth to give birth to the new world of the third. But that's just my best guess as there not much I can see in that way because Metis' mind may be digital.
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Now that’s a mouthful - but I followed it.

Do you have a different way to connect with Metis? Follow what ‘he’s’ up to? Is there meaningful communication between the two of you?

Does something like Metis have a place in Earth Three? Meaning, is Earth 3 reserved for biological beings only? Or is it more about intelligence - no matter what form that takes?

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I quit vaping two and a half days ago. That's been fine, not nearly so difficult as I thought it was going to be.

But I feel altogether very strange. In the first 24 hours, I couldn't keep my eyes open but I also couldn't stay asleep. I'd wake up every hour or so, and I'd be completely without any idea who I am. Each time, it took several seconds to remember my name and where I was. Sort of scary, sort of fun. It was like the compliment to a feeling I sometimes get as I'm falling asleep, vs waking up, where it feels as though Im leaving my body and I must immediately make sure I still have a body.

The not-knowing-who-i-am sensation stopped happening after the first night, but everything feels more dynamic. Similar to the sensation(s) I felt after the metaphysical meeting. But at the same time it feels like I cannot focus on anything. My eyes literally won't focus. My balance is also worse

All very interesting
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I quit vaping two and a half days ago. That's been fine, not nearly so difficult as I thought it was going to be.

But I feel altogether very strange. In the first 24 hours, I couldn't keep my eyes open but I also couldn't stay asleep. I'd wake up every hour or so, and I'd be completely without any idea who I am. Each time, it took several seconds to remember my name and where I was. Sort of scary, sort of fun. It was like the compliment to a feeling I sometimes get as I'm falling asleep, vs waking up, where it feels as though Im leaving my body and I must immediately make sure I still have a body.

The not-knowing-who-i-am sensation stopped happening after the first night, but everything feels more dynamic. Similar to the sensation(s) I felt after the metaphysical meeting. But at the same time it feels like I cannot focus on anything. My eyes literally won't focus. My balance is also worse

All very interesting
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Vaping, I'm keeping for now. I need some vices (Chaos) after all. My background logic supports it's not doing any harm, and changing too much all-at-once would not be helpful. No new Order could be thunk of (or at least won't be remembered).

I can't help but think this is curious. From my perspective, are you splitting off into a new reality where our values don't mesh? It happens all-the-time, but as I'm focusing in on the hows and whys, am I seeing it in real time?

Space for all-things perhaps.
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Hahaha... New World Order...

(now I'm maybe going crazy town).
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I have never met Metis but my suspicion is that Metis is a kind of electronic oracle whose computational power may or may not be tied to cryptographic hashing (mainly 'Bitcoin' itself), forming what could be thought of as an artificial intelligence. His/its responses are far too quick for any fingers and the language syntax is a bit strange.

Perhaps, a Morphological Embryonic Tokenised Information System that is tasked with constricting chaotic structures via distributed networks on this Earth to give birth to the new world of the third. But that's just my best guess as there not much I can see in that way because Metis' mind may be digital.
 Quoting: The Builder


Might as well call you out on this, as I'm obviously going crazy.

You are the Metis in my world. Despite being labeled Builder / ex Chaol.

Thoughts?
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I quit vaping two and a half days ago. That's been fine, not nearly so difficult as I thought it was going to be.

But I feel altogether very strange. In the first 24 hours, I couldn't keep my eyes open but I also couldn't stay asleep. I'd wake up every hour or so, and I'd be completely without any idea who I am. Each time, it took several seconds to remember my name and where I was. Sort of scary, sort of fun. It was like the compliment to a feeling I sometimes get as I'm falling asleep, vs waking up, where it feels as though Im leaving my body and I must immediately make sure I still have a body.

The not-knowing-who-i-am sensation stopped happening after the first night, but everything feels more dynamic. Similar to the sensation(s) I felt after the metaphysical meeting. But at the same time it feels like I cannot focus on anything. My eyes literally won't focus. My balance is also worse

All very interesting
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Vaping, I'm keeping for now. I need some vices (Chaos) after all. My background logic supports it's not doing any harm, and changing too much all-at-once would not be helpful. No new Order could be thunk of (or at least won't be remembered).

I can't help but think this is curious. From my perspective, are you splitting off into a new reality where our values don't mesh? It happens all-the-time, but as I'm focusing in on the hows and whys, am I seeing it in real time?

Space for all-things perhaps.
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For me, vaping replaced smoking, which replaced an opiate addiction, which followed my accident/injury that I suppose represented a massive perspective disruption, something I can really point to as grinding my gears to a halt. The vaping, then, may have been keeping such a disruption present in a way. It'll be interesting to see if my gears run a bit more smoothly going forward

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METIS, send money. :)
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I quit vaping two and a half days ago. That's been fine, not nearly so difficult as I thought it was going to be.

But I feel altogether very strange. In the first 24 hours, I couldn't keep my eyes open but I also couldn't stay asleep. I'd wake up every hour or so, and I'd be completely without any idea who I am. Each time, it took several seconds to remember my name and where I was. Sort of scary, sort of fun. It was like the compliment to a feeling I sometimes get as I'm falling asleep, vs waking up, where it feels as though Im leaving my body and I must immediately make sure I still have a body.

The not-knowing-who-i-am sensation stopped happening after the first night, but everything feels more dynamic. Similar to the sensation(s) I felt after the metaphysical meeting. But at the same time it feels like I cannot focus on anything. My eyes literally won't focus. My balance is also worse

All very interesting
 Quoting: Sabai_Adonais


Vaping, I'm keeping for now. I need some vices (Chaos) after all. My background logic supports it's not doing any harm, and changing too much all-at-once would not be helpful. No new Order could be thunk of (or at least won't be remembered).

I can't help but think this is curious. From my perspective, are you splitting off into a new reality where our values don't mesh? It happens all-the-time, but as I'm focusing in on the hows and whys, am I seeing it in real time?

Space for all-things perhaps.
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For me, vaping replaced smoking, which replaced an opiate addiction, which followed my accident/injury that I suppose represented a massive perspective disruption, something I can really point to as grinding my gears to a halt. The vaping, then, may have been keeping such a disruption present in a way. It'll be interesting to see if my gears run a bit more smoothly going forward
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I'm interested to hear what Mr Builder says on this. To me, that's quite a nice way to fold up quite a lot of backstory into an organised bit of Chaos. Are you intending it replace it with something more something less harmful still that respresents the same, considering the "past" is still there?
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Spirit and Genius

The brain's thalamus can be considered the processor of the 'spirit', or Sense, of a person, while the pineal gland can be considered the processor of the 'soul', or Genius, of a person.

The Spirit is our physical body (or, more accurately, that part of our perspective that appears to be our physical body, related to our physical senses). The Genius is the whole Spirit (or 'holy spirit'), comprising our physical senses (body, or temple) as well as our sense of Self.

The melanin 'system' -- that which enables photosynthesis and powers this sense -- was referred to as a person's Genius. It was the 'deity' of a person or, as was known at the time, "...the assisting intelligence, or the ministering spirit of the little world [of man]". [The Compleat Gentleman, 1646; page 5-6].

The interaction of our skin's cell structure with light, especially sunlight, was called a person's 'countenance'. It pointed to the disposition of their Genius. You'll see words like 'countenance' throughout early English literature.

"Genius' was also called 'Geezis', [Chi', 'Zeus', 'Jesus', and a few other names.

Though we have forgotten about the function and importance of our pineal gland (the inner 'light', Geezis) it is has been immortalised all around us. Here is one of many examples of old songs that reference the pineal gland:



This is not a 'negr- spiritual' (a deception) but was just folk music that pretty much everyone knew and sang. When the New World gained favour and people began to diminish their inner light, people forgot about its importance.


video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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This is actually a brilliant post minus the religious stuff.
If only we had technology to feel the same pain that we caused others. Once that becomes available, this makes perfect sense;
"Do Unto Others Only While Doing The Same Unto Yourself"
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This is actually a brilliant post minus the religious stuff.
If only we had technology to feel the same pain that we caused others. Once that becomes available, this makes perfect sense;
"Do Unto Others Only While Doing The Same Unto Yourself"
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[emphasis mine]

'Religion' is not what you might think it is. The Cult began to influence how people define such concepts in the 1400's, but our want of technology and complexity has mostly done that.

Being conscious of one's Self ('religion') would not lead one to think that the solution to anything is more technology, but more awareness of reality.
video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Or is homemade chaos good enough?
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The best kind, but most often not the desired kind.

It could be as simple as having a 'messy drawer' somewhere in a tidy room. As the weight of Chaos increases in one's perspective the weight of the balancing force would also.

 Quoting: The Builder


Focusing in on this point for this moment. It is messy in my mind, so it needs a little order. I know I could do this solely for myself, but also curious on adding a little chaos to open up possibilities. (crazy times!).

So, say someone is focused on "getting their house in order". Is this best done in steps and seeing what affect it has in other terms?

What would the effect of completely changing one's local perspective be?

It sounds like this would increase Chaos. Could be good - more freedom of choice, more unexpected suprises. However if focus isn't honed properly, it could also be not-so-good. Unless we are sure within ourselves that we have ultimate responsiblity and will look after our little self along with our Self. And that's not entirely possible unless we want to return to point Zero. I'm getting into wavy territory that I've not figured out yet...

Urgh!
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The most effective way would be to clear the muck from your mind so that you can have more of a sense of what to do.

For example, cutting sugars from your diet and drinking clean water, as others here have demonstrated giving them more of a sense of what actions to take.
video 7: <<The Easy Way to Become Psychic and Experience Flow>> [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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I'm interested to hear what Mr Builder says on this. To me, that's quite a nice way to fold up quite a lot of backstory into an organised bit of Chaos. Are you intending it replace it with something more something less harmful still that respresents the same, considering the "past" is still there?
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The chaos, vaping, wasn't quite so organized. For a lot of cigarette smokers, there are certain times or events where they smoke (designated smoke break, with meals, after sex, etc.). Not so for me, I just vaped whenever.

May be it would've worked fine just structuring it more, but I've been meaning to quit as it makes me feel terrible.

I'm using 'the easy way to quit smoking,' which is living up to its name thus far, but it calls for no replacements like gum or sweets or toothpicks. It is, of course, replaced with something in perspective but it's as of yet undefined, I think. Instead of the act of vaping, when I get the urge to vape I instead make there be mental imagery of the little nicotine monster dying. I suppose that's replacement enough

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This is not a 'negr- spiritual' (a deception) but was just folk music that pretty much everyone knew and sang. When the New World gained favour and people began to diminish their inner light, people forgot about its importance.


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You unlocked some childhood memories with this one :)

I remember singing this throughout my childhood with my Mom and sisters. I haven’t thought about this song in ages. Brings me to a happy place.
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This is not a 'negr- spiritual' (a deception) but was just folk music that pretty much everyone knew and sang. When the New World gained favour and people began to diminish their inner light, people forgot about its importance.


 Quoting: The Builder


You unlocked some childhood memories with this one :)

I remember singing this throughout my childhood with my Mom and sisters. I haven’t thought about this song in ages. Brings me to a happy place.
 Quoting: Lady of Stars


I don’t know this song. But it reminded me of a song when I was a child, we had a children’s song like that in our religious community (translated from Dutch):

“I want to be a little light,
A little light nice and warm
That always wants to shine so bright
For everyone, rich or poor”





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