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Scientists find ZERO asymptomatic or presymptomatic COVID spread...no shit

 
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Sorry, JAMA isn’t credible by their “credible” standards. It needs to come from John Hopkins, NEJM, or the Lancet.

Much like the media world assigning cred to each other like some in-bred relationships
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From the published article in JAMA

"asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero"




"Four researchers from the University of Florida Department of Biostatistics co-authored a study published online by the Journal of the American Medical Association"

"The secondary attack rate for symptomatic index cases was 18.0% (95% CI 14.2%-22.1%), and the rate of asymptomatic and presymptomatic index cases was 0.7% (95% CI 0%-4.9%), “although there were few studies in the latter group.” The asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero, and the confidence interval is technically 0.7 ± 4.2, resulting in a range of -3.5%-4.9%, but attack rates cannot be negative, so it is truncated at 0."
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But, but, Baal Gates said covid super spreaders do it through laughing, singing and talking? And without any coughing or other symptoms..
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From the published article in JAMA

"asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero"




"Four researchers from the University of Florida Department of Biostatistics co-authored a study published online by the Journal of the American Medical Association"

"The secondary attack rate for symptomatic index cases was 18.0% (95% CI 14.2%-22.1%), and the rate of asymptomatic and presymptomatic index cases was 0.7% (95% CI 0%-4.9%), “although there were few studies in the latter group.” The asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero, and the confidence interval is technically 0.7 ± 4.2, resulting in a range of -3.5%-4.9%, but attack rates cannot be negative, so it is truncated at 0."
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!




Let's dig a little deeper, shall we?

From the DISCUSSION section of the paper:

"We found significantly higher secondary attack rates from symptomatic index cases than asymptomatic or presymptomatic index cases, although less data were available on the latter. The lack of substantial transmission from observed asymptomatic index cases is notable. However, presymptomatic transmission does occur, with some studies reporting the timing of peak infectiousness at approximately the period of symptom onset."

From the LIMITATIONS sectio:

"Eighteen studies19-21,24,25,28,29,33,34,41,47,50,53,56,58,59,61,64 involved testing only symptomatic household contacts, which would miss asymptomatic or subclinical infections, although secondary attack rate estimates were similar across studies testing all vs only symptomatic contacts."
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Scientists find ZERO asymptomatic or presymptomatic COVID spread...no shit

No shit Sherlock, this has zero to do about a health crisis and everything to do about seizing complete and absolute control of the Modern World, via the Communist Rules for Revolution.

TPTB

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Great timing...right after election so now they can ease right into a Biden administration.
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


Actually this will continue to be buried because it does NOT support ‘ the Biden agenda”

Social controls mandated by the federal govt
Federally mandated masking
Federally mandated required testing
Federally mandated quarantines, travel restrictions

Joebama is a one-trick pony ( or as his scrambled brain said, a one-horse pony)

Centralized federal govt control over a US population whose resistance is diminished by fear, imposed poverty, and panic = “ strong leadership”
All remnants of anger channeled at Trump
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well all your police allowed your government to steal and kill everything around me That's going to be costly for all life on your planet

and if you hop on the internet you'll find all these people playing with their buttholes and everything else and just think all these people spreading all that butthole of juice all over the planet constantly.. That's probably what's really killing everyone virus of a butthole, Don't forget to wash your hands
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From the published article in JAMA

"asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero"




"Four researchers from the University of Florida Department of Biostatistics co-authored a study published online by the Journal of the American Medical Association"

"The secondary attack rate for symptomatic index cases was 18.0% (95% CI 14.2%-22.1%), and the rate of asymptomatic and presymptomatic index cases was 0.7% (95% CI 0%-4.9%), “although there were few studies in the latter group.” The asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero, and the confidence interval is technically 0.7 ± 4.2, resulting in a range of -3.5%-4.9%, but attack rates cannot be negative, so it is truncated at 0."
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


Well, I don't doubt this one bit.
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Doesn’t change anything. Read the article properly.
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So all restaurants, bars and schools should be open. Just do a temperature scan at the door and zero chance of spreading the virus.
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Doesn’t change anything. Read the article properly.
 Quoting: Katipo2017

It won't change anything NOW but it will be part of the evidence that will shred these motherfuckers in tiny little pieces once they have to answer in court for their insane covid hoaxery and destruction of human society. They cannot claim they didn't know.

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Doesn’t change anything. Read the article properly.
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You people are just begging to be butt plugged
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Doesn’t change anything. Read the article properly.
 Quoting: Katipo2017


Which part?

Like this one? I'm not sure how else to interpret it...


"asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero"

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All you need to watch.
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Yeah but it’s seeming support for their plans to remove “suspected” infected from households....including our children.

Imagine that, taking your loved one out of your home because of a freaking cold
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79538943


That won't go over well at all
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That won't happen...

There is a big game-changer in IVERMECTIN.

A push is beginning to make this possible.

Game-over.


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Yeah but it’s seeming support for their plans to remove “suspected” infected from households....including our children.

Imagine that, taking your loved one out of your home because of a freaking cold
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79538943


That won't go over well at all
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


That won't happen...

There is a big game-changer in IVERMECTIN.

A push is beginning to make this possible.

Game-over.


 Quoting: TREKWEBMASTER


I hope you are right. They are squashing any and all therapeutics, especially the cheap ones.
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.

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From the published article in JAMA

"asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero"




"Four researchers from the University of Florida Department of Biostatistics co-authored a study published online by the Journal of the American Medical Association"

"The secondary attack rate for symptomatic index cases was 18.0% (95% CI 14.2%-22.1%), and the rate of asymptomatic and presymptomatic index cases was 0.7% (95% CI 0%-4.9%), “although there were few studies in the latter group.” The asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero, and the confidence interval is technically 0.7 ± 4.2, resulting in a range of -3.5%-4.9%, but attack rates cannot be negative, so it is truncated at 0."
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


BUT it says this at the end:

Conclusions
The findings of this study suggest that households are and will continue to be important venues for transmission, even where community transmission is reduced. Prevention strategies, such as increased mask-wearing at home, improved ventilation, voluntary isolation at external facilities, and targeted antiviral prophylaxis, should be further explored.
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How can you do an accurate study when the testing being used to detect the virus isn't made to detect viral infections?

You fckn can't....It's all bullsh!t
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How can you do an accurate study when the testing being used to detect the virus isn't made to detect viral infections?

You fckn can't....It's all bullsh!t
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79750364


Good point sir
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Social Blame put on people who show no signs of sickness, and are young and strong is criminal.
American obesity at 40 percent, 70 percent overweight.
If this "virus" ran unabated, the aftermath would be a healthier stronger society at large.

Sorry about your ageed your overweight ,and weak-willed, but...
Death becomes us ALL.
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The great reset don't give a fuck and will keep it up until they win or we kill them. It's really that simple.
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Take the virus, vaccine, and masks and shove it up your mother fucking ass!
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I'm not giving them the power. Fuckem all!
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Debating is over as far as I'm concerned.
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Remember the grocery stores in the summer?

"YOU ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE ARROWS! YOU CAN'T WALK THIS DIRECTION DOWN THE AISLE!"

What happened with that? Must have hurt sales at Chyna-Mart or something.
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This scientist says there is no such thing as covid

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From the published article in JAMA

"asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero"




"Four researchers from the University of Florida Department of Biostatistics co-authored a study published online by the Journal of the American Medical Association"

"The secondary attack rate for symptomatic index cases was 18.0% (95% CI 14.2%-22.1%), and the rate of asymptomatic and presymptomatic index cases was 0.7% (95% CI 0%-4.9%), “although there were few studies in the latter group.” The asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero, and the confidence interval is technically 0.7 ± 4.2, resulting in a range of -3.5%-4.9%, but attack rates cannot be negative, so it is truncated at 0."
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


BUT it says this at the end:

Conclusions
The findings of this study suggest that households are and will continue to be important venues for transmission, even where community transmission is reduced. Prevention strategies, such as increased mask-wearing at home, improved ventilation, voluntary isolation at external facilities, and targeted antiviral prophylaxis, should be further explored.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79728344


"explored", NOT "mandatory", totally diverse meanings
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Check out the bottom line, “ Prevention strategies, such as increased mask-wearing at home”

They are going to take this study and demand we wear masks at home.
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Doesn’t change anything. Read the article properly.
 Quoting: Katipo2017


Which part?

Like this one? I'm not sure how else to interpret it...


"asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero"
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!


Doesn’t change anything. Read the article properly.
 Quoting: Katipo2017


Which part?

Like this one? I'm not sure how else to interpret it...


"asymptomatic/presymptomatic secondary attack rate is not statistically different from zero"
 Quoting: Bloody Peasant!



That's what the website that linked the JAMA study claimed. When you read the actual JAMA study it says no such thing. It does say transmission rates are lower. Of course they will be lower. Asymptomatic and presymptomatic people aren't coughing every 5 seconds.





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