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WHAT DOES THE LAST STIMULUS PACKAGE PROVE ???

 
Alsabiades

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WHAT DOES THE LAST STIMULUS PACKAGE PROVE ???
It proves what most of us have known for over 40 years. Our system of government has been so corrupted that it is not even a shell of it's former self (the days when we actually did, to some small degree, live in a representative democracy.) It, again, proves that no congressman EVER reads legislation before voting on it; but rather, relies upon his donors or lobbyists to tell him whether to vote for or against....ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that it IS the LOBBYISTS and SPECIAL INTEREST groups who have been writing ALL non-military (and some of that too) legislation ("bills") for decades. And while the inept and appointed justices of the various higher courts have upheld the legislative branches giving OUR MONEY to foreign countries, foreign causes and corporations...THIS is something that is just another nail in our republics coffin.
And yes, while the entire system is corrupt, our political "leaders" (not statesmen) are simply put: CROOKS. They have become so corrupted by a corrupt system (that is rarely tested) that they, themselves, are beyond the pale. To the point, that the whole process is a sham...whether that is voting or a misplaced belief that we are truly represented.
I've preached for over 40 years on HOW to fix it. Most of you KNOW how to fix it (term-limits, end Citizen's United, end donations/PACS/contributions over $500.00, end corporate donations of any sort...and the list goes on). Regardless, none of those reforms will ever occur.
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It tells me that the Congress is all in with corporate Chimerica.
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Make Southeast Asia great again
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That congress is in line with china? Hell, I got news for ya: BOTH PARIES have worked in concert and union my entire life to repeal the Bill of Rights and subvert the interests of the PEOPLE. Republicans voted for the stimulus bill en masse. They are JUST as corrupt.
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Being a "Party-man" and NEVER seeing the corruption and wrongs of your own party is a form of delusion.
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Make Southeast Asia great again
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True. As well as, all of the billions that they appropriated for countries in the middle east. Sickening.
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That congress is in line with china? Hell, I got news for ya: BOTH PARIES have worked in concert and union my entire life to repeal the Bill of Rights and subvert the interests of the PEOPLE. Republicans voted for the stimulus bill en masse. They are JUST as corrupt.
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THEY ARE ...DEMS AND REPS ...ARE THE SAME CLOTH...THE DEMS ARE EXTRA DUMB OR EXTRA STRENGTH AND REP ARE EXTRA LITE...BUT WITH THE SAME GOAL TO MAKE YOU BUZZED ..

Trump is not part of THE CLOTH....

THE DEMS ARE THE JACKASSES ...AND THE REP ARE SCARED OF MOUSE ...ELEPHANTS ...

AND TRUMP IS THE KING LION....

THE LION IS GOING TO EAT THE TOP JACKASS ...WATCH N SEE ....

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Re: WHAT DOES THE LAST STIMULUS PACKAGE PROVE ???
It proves what most of us have known for over 40 years. Our system of government has been so corrupted that it is not even a shell of it's former self (the days when we actually did, to some small degree, live in a representative democracy.) It, again, proves that no congressman EVER reads legislation before voting on it; but rather, relies upon his donors or lobbyists to tell him whether to vote for or against....ESPECIALLY in light of the fact that it IS the LOBBYISTS and SPECIAL INTEREST groups who have been writing ALL non-military (and some of that too) legislation ("bills") for decades. And while the inept and appointed justices of the various higher courts have upheld the legislative branches giving OUR MONEY to foreign countries, foreign causes and corporations...THIS is something that is just another nail in our republics coffin.
And yes, while the entire system is corrupt, our political "leaders" (not statesmen) are simply put: CROOKS. They have become so corrupted by a corrupt system (that is rarely tested) that they, themselves, are beyond the pale. To the point, that the whole process is a sham...whether that is voting or a misplaced belief that we are truly represented.
I've preached for over 40 years on HOW to fix it. Most of you KNOW how to fix it (term-limits, end Citizen's United, end donations/PACS/contributions over $500.00, end corporate donations of any sort...and the list goes on). Regardless, none of those reforms will ever occur.
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or one could say voting is a good sign you all are clinically insane..

doing something over and over again expecting a different result.
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https://imgur.com/a/K2BUse4
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or one could say voting is a good sign you all are clinically insane..

doing something over and over again expecting a different result.
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True. This last election proves your point.
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Well, it showed me that a short tweet war between Nancy and Donald changed the individual payout from $600 to $2000 in one swell foop.
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Only message im getting from my "government" is that there are no rules. Lol. Ok message received.
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So, what is these crooks next move? To completely and utterly destroy the economy and ratify Gate's digital money scheme (international patent number 60606).
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obvious is obvious...


2 times 0 still equals zero
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Re: WHAT DOES THE LAST STIMULUS PACKAGE PROVE ???
Only message im getting from my "government" is that there are no rules. Lol. Ok message received.
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Bingo. And the executive and legislative branches learned a LONG time ago: the judicial branch moves too slow to prevent rapid-fire measures (executive decrees and Bills). It takes years for ONE case to make it through the judiciary to contest or declare a law unconstitutional.
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Well, it showed me that a short tweet war between Nancy and Donald changed the individual payout from $600 to $2000 in one swell foop.
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Nancy (dual citizen of Israel and liberal) would, you would think, be the one pushing for more stimulus instead of Donald; right?
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I hope the President vetoes the package and congress continues to expose itself. WHERE IN THE HELL are investigative journalists? (Right, they haven't existed since the 1970's.)
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Re: WHAT DOES THE LAST STIMULUS PACKAGE PROVE ???
Foreign aid has gotten completely out of hand. Whether or not it is a kickback money laundering scheme, the power of the purse to grant foreign aid has to be taken away from congress. Also, bills need to be focused and short. No forcing a vote on 5000 page bills with no time to actually read the bill. Bills need to be written in Congress.





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