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Golden Country............Let America Be America Again

 
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An interesting compare and contrast thread.....hf

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From Langston Hughes....


Let America Be America Again


Let America be America again.
Let it be the dream it used to be.
Let it be the pioneer on the plain
Seeking a home where he himself is free.

(America never was America to me.)

Let America be the dream the dreamers dreamed—
Let it be that great strong land of love
Where never kings connive nor tyrants scheme
That any man be crushed by one above.

(It never was America to me.)

O, let my land be a land where Liberty
Is crowned with no false patriotic wreath,
But opportunity is real, and life is free,
Equality is in the air we breathe.

(There's never been equality for me,
Nor freedom in this "homeland of the free.")

Say, who are you that mumbles in the dark?
And who are you that draws your veil across the stars?

I am the poor white, fooled and pushed apart,
I am the [black man] bearing slavery's scars.
I am the red man driven from the land,
I am the immigrant clutching the hope I seek—
And finding only the same old stupid plan
Of dog eat dog, of mighty crush the weak.

I am the young man, full of strength and hope,
Tangled in that ancient endless chain
Of profit, power, gain, of grab the land!
Of grab the gold! Of grab the ways of satisfying need!
Of work the men! Of take the pay!
Of owning everything for one's own greed!

I am the farmer, bondsman to the soil.
I am the worker sold to the machine.
I am the Black, servant to you all.
I am the people, humble, hungry, mean—
Hungry yet today despite the dream.
Beaten yet today—O, Pioneers!
I am the man who never got ahead,
The poorest worker bartered through the years.

Yet I'm the one who dreamt our basic dream
In the Old World while still a serf of kings,
Who dreamt a dream so strong, so brave, so true,
That even yet its mighty daring sings
In every brick and stone, in every furrow turned
That's made America the land it has become.
O, I'm the man who sailed those early seas
In search of what I meant to be my home—
For I'm the one who left dark Ireland's shore,
And Poland's plain, and England's grassy lea,
And torn from Black Africa's strand I came
To build a "homeland of the free."

The free?

Who said the free? Not me?
Surely not me? The millions on relief today?
The millions shot down when we strike?
The millions who have nothing for our pay?
For all the dreams we've dreamed
And all the songs we've sung
And all the hopes we've held
And all the flags we've hung,
The millions who have nothing for our pay—
Except the dream that's almost dead today.

O, let America be America again—
The land that never has been yet—
And yet must be—the land where every man is free.
The land that's mine—the poor man's, Indian's, Black's, ME—
Who made America,
Whose sweat and blood, whose faith and pain,
Whose hand at the foundry, whose plow in the rain,
Must bring back our mighty dream again.

Sure, call me any ugly name you choose—
The steel of freedom does not stain.
From those who live like leeches on the people's lives,
We must take back our land again,
America!

O, yes,
I say it plain,
America never was America to me,
And yet I swear this oath—
America will be!

Out of the rack and ruin of our gangster death,
The rape and rot of graft, and stealth, and lies,
We, the people, must redeem
The land, the mines, the plants, the rivers.
The mountains and the endless plain—
All, all the stretch of these great green states—
And make America again!


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Last Edited by cosmicgypsy on 12/23/2020 05:03 PM
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I tried to post the whole poem by Hughes, but GLP wouldn't let it go through....shrug
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by myself, but not alone...

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I tried to post the whole poem by Hughes, but GLP wouldn't let it go through....shrug
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Because it has an N word in it. You could copy & paste but then change the N words to 'brownies' or something.
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After listening to that malevolent "whatsit" talking, I wondered what I could've done differently....is there anything I or any of us could've done to stop what is now in our face....openly fucking fucking with us with their unbelievable and inane debauchery?


What could you of done different?


I'm tellin' youse guyses, straight up....I want off this freak show ride.


David (the Socialist), you are one creepy motherfucker.
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I tried to post the whole poem by Hughes, but GLP wouldn't let it go through....shrug
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Because it has an N word in it. You could copy & paste but then change the N words to 'brownies' or something.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight



Ahhhhh, thank you....hugs


I will get it fixed up.
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Jeebus, it wasn't even the bad n-word. That's why I didn't notice it.

Fuck me runnin' with this reality....charlie
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I was just sitting here thinking, 'Did we really wait until too late to make a stand?'....this on the heels of listening to the song for about the sixth time today.


I mean, I wasn't waiting. I was always talking to others about the corruption in our government.


I then thought about what's behind all of this, the "big players"....the Illuminati, people with financial means and a hatred for freedom, those with no soul, even hyperdimensionals.

I then realized how good people could be taken advantage of. Overall, we've been taken advantage of for millennia.


I dunno, I'm at a loss for words, but I keep writing. I'm trying to make some kind of sense about this mess....how am I responsible? What did I or did not I do?

Is there anything I can do now?....I've contacted everyone, from Representatives to the President of the United States....I don't know what else I can do. I'm not violent.


I'm feeling incredibly sad for the good and decent people in our country and on this planet right now....and myself.


verysad
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Ivermectin is the answer...
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America has not been America since JFK was murdered. Try

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America has not been America since JFK was murdered. Try

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Great website.
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America has not been America since JFK was murdered. Try

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Great website.
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America has not been America since JFK was murdered. Try

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Great website.
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I was a big JFK fan as well.
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America has not been America since JFK was murdered. Try

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Re: Golden Country............Let America Be America Again
Refreshing thread.

Glad GLP gives me the chance to IGNORE posters who I find HIGHTLY irritating. Not you - but two others. First time I ever took advantage of it.

This thread though...awesome!
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Somebody please speak up and tell me and us WHAT CAN WE DO?


I cannot find anyway that I have failed, at least not within my own parameters....I can't do violence.

Why does violence HAVE to be the answer? WHY?


Fuck me runnin' some more. I wish youse guyses would speak up!


We can't just sit around complaining - blahblah - all the time.


We have to think critically about how we're going to go forth with what we have facing us....please, think.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


...I adapt to the unknown,
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by myself, but not alone...

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Somebody please speak up and tell me and us WHAT CAN WE DO?


I cannot find anyway that I have failed, at least not within my own parameters....I can't do violence.

Why does violence HAVE to be the answer? WHY?


Fuck me runnin' some more. I wish youse guyses would speak up!


We can't just sit around complaining - blahblah - all the time.


We have to think critically about how we're going to go forth with what we have facing us....please, think.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I have thought about this... I think we failed in the manner of accountability. When people aren't held accountable for their actions they are free to do what they like. We see it here with the ACs ad nauseum.

We have plenty of laws, rules and procedures. What we need is for all people to be held to account for their actions unequivocally.

What happens when you touch something very hot? You get burned. There's just no way around it and the consequence is immediate and unyielding. So people avoid touching hot things, because they know they're not going to get away with it.

Our laws need to be the same way, with the consequences being ironclad and in direct proportion to the crime.
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First we have to take it back

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Somebody please speak up and tell me and us WHAT CAN WE DO?


I cannot find anyway that I have failed, at least not within my own parameters....I can't do violence.

Why does violence HAVE to be the answer? WHY?


Fuck me runnin' some more. I wish youse guyses would speak up!


We can't just sit around complaining - blahblah - all the time.


We have to think critically about how we're going to go forth with what we have facing us....please, think.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I have thought about this... I think we failed in the manner of accountability. When people aren't held accountable for their actions they are free to do what they like. We see it here with the ACs ad nauseum.

We have plenty of laws, rules and procedures. What we need is for all people to be held to account for their actions unequivocally.

What happens when you touch something very hot? You get burned. There's just no way around it and the consequence is immediate and unyielding. So people avoid touching hot things, because they know they're not going to get away with it.

Our laws need to be the same way, with the consequences being ironclad and in direct proportion to the crime.
 Quoting: President Elect - CosmicFire



An eye for an eye, eh?....or more like, 'if you're stealing from the American people, the American people get all your wealth, and then you get booted penniless from the country?'

Heh, 'you want to produce highly addictive opiates, and then push it on the people, then you should have to partake of said opiates, in too copious of amounts....to feeel the death you're pushing.'


I could go on....charlie but muscle relaxers.
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


...I adapt to the unknown,
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by myself, but not alone...

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I heard this song earlier, and just listened to it again.

This is a 15 year old kid, Carter Rubin. He wrote the song.


"What if we fall? What if we lose? What if we end up in a life we didn't choose?

Yet, if we fall, I'll have no fear. As long as we go down together, we can make it up from here."



hfgrinninghf




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by myself, but not alone...

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