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Anyone ever get the feeling Bangladesh is cursed?

 
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Anyone ever get the feeling Bangladesh is cursed?
First the cyclone that kills hundreds and makes hundreds of thousands homeless and now this

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Bird Flu Update - Bangladesh
From Patricia Doyle, PhD
11-18-7

"A fresh influx of migratory birds is raising further concerns. Hundreds of thousands of Siberian water fowl arrive in Bangladesh from mid-November, taking refuge in the country's vast rivers, lakes and marshlands."

Hello, Jeff - You bet a fresh influx of migratory birds is 'raising further concerns.' There has been too much evidence to support the theory that migratory birds spread bird flu.


Bangladesh - Return Of Bird Flu
IRIN News
11-19-7

Avian flu has re-emerged in Bangladesh after 4 months, with 5 reported new outbreaks in poultry farms across the country since October [2007]. The contagious viral disease was 1st detected in Bangladesh in March 2007. Since then there have been 55 outbreaks in 19 of the country's 64 districts.

To halt a further spread of the virus, more than 250 000 chickens have been culled since the original outbreak.

"But indirect losses to farmers far surpass the direct loss," veterinarian Abul Kalam Azad of the UN Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) told IRIN in Dhaka, the capital.

Many farms have downsized operations, resulting in significant layoffs and the suspension of business, while producers of poultry feed and farm equipment have also been hard hit.

"The whole USD 2 billion industry is in a very nervous state," Azad explained.

A fresh influx of migratory birds is raising further concerns. Hundreds of thousands of Siberian water fowl arrive in Bangladesh from mid-November, taking refuge in the country's vast rivers, lakes and marshlands.

"The winter months are likely to see more outbreaks," ASM Alamgir, a virologist at the Institute of Epidemiology Disease Control and Research, warned.

And though a permanent relationship between migratory birds and bird flu has yet to be proven beyond a doubt, according to the World Health Organization (WHO), "scientists are increasingly convinced that some migratory waterfowl are now carrying the H5N1 virus in its highly pathogenic form, sometimes over long distances, and introducing the virus to poultry flocks in areas that lie along their migratory routes" -- all of which worries health officials in Bangladesh.

"At 795 persons per square km, Bangladesh has the highest population density in the world. This close proximity of human beings is a risk element for transmission of any contagious disease like flu," Nazrul Haq, a member of the government's technical working group on avian influenza risk, said, adding that the hot and humid environment helps pathogens spread quickly.

Further compounding the problem is the prominent role of poultry farming. Almost all rural households keep chickens as a source of cheap protein, with about 2.4 million rural women depending on backyard chicken farming as their only source of livelihood. Even well-off families in Bangladesh raise a few chickens to supplement their income.

As a result, communicating appropriate bio-security practices such as separating domestic flocks from wild ones, hygienic slaughtering and waste disposal, use of masks while cleaning chicken coops, disinfection before and after working in poultry farms, as well as the use of personal protective equipment is already proving difficult.

"Behaviours don't change overnight," Habibur Rahman of the Bangladesh Agricultural University told IRIN. "Most of these farms do not maintain necessary sanitary and preventive measures essential for keeping chicken safe from infection," he added, estimating that there were well over 100 000 small and medium-sized farms in the country.

In July [2007], the Bangladesh government signed an agreement worth USD 16 million with the International Development Association, the World Bank's concessionary arm, to minimise a possible bird flu threat.

The Avian Influenza Preparedness and Response Project supports the government's National Avian Influenza and Pandemic Influenza Preparedness and Response Plan and is designed to control infections in domestic poultry, while at the same time formulating plans to control and respond to possible human infections, especially an influenza epidemic and related emergencies.

Meanwhile, officials in Bangladesh have also taken measures, including a ban on the import of poultry-related products from affected countries, monitoring of imported day-old chicks from non-affected countries, the control of illegal poultry product trading, an improvement of laboratory facilities, as well as forming a national task force representing relevant stakeholders -- including the private sector.

The government has imposed a 1km [0.62-mile] restricted area around any confirmed infection point and all poultry within the area is culled, while strict controls are imposed on the movement of poultry and poultry products within a 10km [6.2-mile] radius.

According to Abdul Motaleb, director of the government's department of livestock, the proper disposal of dead birds and contaminated materials such as eggs and faeces is also now ensured, while surveillance and monitoring have been strengthened.

"We have trained 320 000 community volunteers on bird flu prevention. They are going from door-to-door in rural Bangladesh to communicate and train women on safe and sanitary practices that can prevent bird flu," Motaleb added.

According to WHO, as of 12 Nov 2007, 335 humans have been infected with the virus globally, of whom 206 died. That means 61 out of every 100 human cases are fatal. Of the 12 countries where bird to human transmission took place, 9 are in Asia.

There have been no cases of human infection in Bangladesh.
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I feel sorry for these people. Their low lying land makes it hard to get away from many disasters.
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You don't see India fighting to get them back, unlike 'west' Pakistan.
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Sorry now make that 15000 dead. Holy crap!

Bangladesh cyclone death toll hits 15,000
By Peter Foster, South Asia correspondent
Last Updated: 1:40am GMT 19/11/2007



Up to 15,000 people were killed and seven million lives left devastated by the cyclone in Bangladesh last week, aid agencies have said as the full extent of the disaster became clear.


In the worst affected districts, 90 pc of homes and 95 pc of rice crops and valuable prawn farms were obliterated by the winds


The Bangladeshi Red Crescent Society, the country's main humanitarian group, said that more than 3,000 bodies had already been recovered from villages shattered by Cyclone Sidr's 150mph winds.

While the official death toll remains low, Save the Children last night said that it feared that 15,000 people could have died while the Red Crescent estimated around 10,000.

An international relief effort, supported by donations from the UN, Britain, US and Europe, was slowly grinding into gear yesterday as the International Red Cross estimated 900,000 families had been affected.

Previous cyclones killed 500,000 people in 1970 and 143,000 in 1991 - however local officials said the impact would now fall on the many survivors.

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In the worst affected districts, 90 per cent of homes and 95 per cent of rice crops and valuable prawn farms were obliterated by the winds, which generated a 20ft tidal surge that swept everything from its path.

Fallen trees and flooded roads are also seriously impeding the relief crews' efforts to reach stricken coastal villages, with elephants being used in some areas to clear the heaviest debris.

Officials described the humanitarian situation in coastal districts like Barguna, 130 miles south of the capital Dhaka, as the "worst in decades", a grave assertion in a country that is used to dealing with annual floods and storms.

Tapan Chowdhury, a government adviser for food and disaster management, described the cyclone as a "national calamity" and urged all to come forward to help the victims.

Relief operators on the ground said supplies were still inadequate and that the government should make an immediate plea for more international aid to avert a "human disaster".

"I have never seen such a catastrophe in my 20 years as a government administrator," said Harisprasad Pal, an official from Barguna District, "Village after village has been shattered. Millions of people are living out in the open and relief is reaching less than one percent of the people."

When reached, victims are being found dehydrated and in a state of shock.
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cont.

"I lost six of my family members in the cyclone. I am afraid that the rest of us will die of hunger," said Sattar Gazi, a 55-year-old farmer in the village of Nishanbari.

"For the corpses we don't have clothes to wrap them in for burial. We are wrapping the bodies in leaves."

Britain announced immediate aid of £2.5 million, while the United States ordered two warships from the Bay of Bengal to assist with rescue and relief efforts, air-lifting supplies to areas cut off by flooding.

Lord Malloch Brown, the Foreign Office minister, said: "We have offered our immediate support to relief efforts through the UN and stand ready to provide more assistance when required."

The Pope appealed for immediate international aid for those stricken by the disaster in Bangladesh.

"In renewing my deep condolences to the families and the entire nation, which is very dear to me, I appeal to international solidarity," he said.

"I encourage all possible efforts to help these brothers who are suffering so much."
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That region has always had horrible storms. Being below sea level, it is quickly becoming uninhabitable. I think this was called East Pakistan at one time - when the initial split happened after India got its independence from the British. The Muslims wanted their own countries and, well, that is just what they got. And just like most people in that part of the world, promptly began to overpopulate themselves into the worst kinds of poverty and need.

It now has to be one of the poorest countries in the world with at least 3/4ths of its people living on an average of $300 dollars a year and an outrageous birth rate.

Where are they going to go? Pakistan hasn't offered to take them in. Neither has any other Muslim country. India doesn't want them back and probably most of them wouldn't leave even if someone offered them places to go.

Unfortunately, they will continue to suffer these storms and human loses every year. The storms aren't going to stop. It is just nature doing what nature does. It is the rainy and storm season there and they have no higher ground to go to.

Sad, but true.
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If I recall correctly it was the USA and their stupid anti mj bullshit back in the Hoover days, when they made mj a prohibated drug world wide, then they had the nerve to go to countrys like Bangladesh and strip of their natural harvests. Which in turn upset the country ability to produce, rebounds to this day
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About 80 percent of Bangladeshis are Muslims

where is ALLAH thats what happens when you prey to false gods
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The thread topic SHOULD read...

"Anyone ever get the feeling Bangladesh is DOOMED?"
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"Anyone ever get the feeling Bangladesh is DOOMED?"
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Hell yeah, i've had that feeling for a long time.

Can't help thinking that they should study engineering instead of quran.

Look at the Netherlands, well below sea-level, but due to modern technology they manage to keep the water out.
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Not cursed. Just below sea level.
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They have 3 problems that are quite evident: Location, location and location.
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i don't believe its a case of below see-level. these problem look new.

in african religion, such continued calamity is regarded as GOD punishment for a tribe/nation past or current evil deed's.
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And you think it's hard to get home owners insurance here.
The people should either be used to several disasters per year, or move. Why stay there?
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Topographically Bangladesch is a really shitty place to be.

If no one evacuates them, they will all be dead within a few years. Unfortunately I'm not kidding.
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[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]

Sorry now make that 15000 dead. Holy crap!

Bangladesh cyclone death toll hits 15,000
By Peter Foster, South Asia correspondent
Last Updated: 1:40am GMT 19/11/2007



Up to 15,000 people were killed and seven million lives left devastated by the cyclone in Bangladesh last week, aid agencies have said as the full extent of the disaster became clear.


In the worst affected districts, 90 pc of homes and 95 pc of rice crops and valuable prawn farms were obliterated by the winds


The Bangladeshi Red Crescent Society, the country's main humanitarian group, said that more than 3,000 bodies had already been recovered from villages shattered by Cyclone Sidr's 150mph winds.

While the official death toll remains low, Save the Children last night said that it feared that 15,000 people could have died while the Red Crescent estimated around 10,000.

An international relief effort, supported by donations from the UN, Britain, US and Europe, was slowly grinding into gear yesterday as the International Red Cross estimated 900,000 families had been affected.

Previous cyclones killed 500,000 people in 1970 and 143,000 in 1991 - however local officials said the impact would now fall on the many survivors.

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In the worst affected districts, 90 per cent of homes and 95 per cent of rice crops and valuable prawn farms were obliterated by the winds, which generated a 20ft tidal surge that swept everything from its path.

Fallen trees and flooded roads are also seriously impeding the relief crews' efforts to reach stricken coastal villages, with elephants being used in some areas to clear the heaviest debris.

Officials described the humanitarian situation in coastal districts like Barguna, 130 miles south of the capital Dhaka, as the "worst in decades", a grave assertion in a country that is used to dealing with annual floods and storms.

Tapan Chowdhury, a government adviser for food and disaster management, described the cyclone as a "national calamity" and urged all to come forward to help the victims.

Relief operators on the ground said supplies were still inadequate and that the government should make an immediate plea for more international aid to avert a "human disaster".

"I have never seen such a catastrophe in my 20 years as a government administrator," said Harisprasad Pal, an official from Barguna District, "Village after village has been shattered. Millions of people are living out in the open and relief is reaching less than one percent of the people."

When reached, victims are being found dehydrated and in a state of shock.
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Only 3,000
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Topographically Bangladesch is a really shitty place to be.

If no one evacuates them, they will all be dead within a few years. Unfortunately I'm not kidding.
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Dude, every year few thousands do die from natural disasters, but millions survive because of the fertile lands.

Now please declare yourself a semi-idi*t.
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The deeds of the fathers impact on the next 3-4 generations, karma.

In Quran

c) The Angels who record the deeds (Kiraman Katebeen).

"The honored writers know what you do." (82:11)

d) "We record that which they send before them, and their footprints,and all things we have kept in a clear register." (36:12)


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I feel sorry for these people. Their low lying land makes it hard to get away from many disasters.
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Correct.

Now if they only had the IQ to MOVE, before the next disaster.
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I feel sorry for these people. Their low lying land makes it hard to get away from many disasters.



Correct.

Now if they only had the IQ to MOVE, before the next disaster.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 150446


I am replying to myself here, but I am not being cruel.

If they need help to move to higher ground, then the world should help them.

But they can't just STAY near sea level and hope nothing else happens.





GLP