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Taking your very survival into your own hands, how will you respond?

 
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Given we live in a duality reality, imagine you are right now given two choices to make in the fight for you and yours survival....think of that moment when you realize it comes down to you and your activities.

Your choices?


1) Keep participating in a corrupt system.

2) Stop participating in a corrupt system.



The first one only requires that you keep on complaining about this system, and do nothing else, KNOWING your life is going to continue on as if you're a slave to be used.


The second one requires that you stop all affiliation with money. Just stop paying your bills, buying your medicine and going to the doctor, stop buying technology....stop buying EVERYTHING. Stop using money. You know how hard this is going to be. You know perhaps people will die before "they" get the hint. But you also know it's the only way to free Humanity, so you do your part.



Now, this is not me telling you we all have to do this RIGHT NOW....heh, I'd be a fool to believe it would happen.

Given your back is put against a wall and you HAVE to make a choice, what would that choice be?


You don't even have to vote or respond, but I am asking you to think about this deeply.

I hope you do, because I do believe Humanity's future depends on us at least thinking clearly and critically about just what is the beast here.....the Money System.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I stopped participating in the corruption in 2001, meaning, I haven't paid a dime in income tax since. I dont drive with a license, I am uninsured, and I collect each month from the government via a number of methods. The only way for someone to survive.

So I do participate but only in the taking part. You won't make it if you dont take the handouts. In essence I am helping to bankrupt the system.

A war needs to start. it is the only way out of how the world is currently ruled. I am not referring to a classic war as the enemy has no honor and they don't use a classic military. Biological weapons, radiation and chemical based weapons/poisons are how they fight.

I out them on a daily basis. They can't win a ground battle once it starts.
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You're total BS. Nobody gets away with not paying taxes on the low end. Then you openly admit you're stealing from those that DO pay taxes. You're part of the problem.
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I was going to say he's full of shit but my brother has scammed the government out of so much money and has managed to get away with it over and over again while also not paying taxes because he gets paid under the table...he lives like a hobo though -- and that is exactly what this guy is. Some homeless drifter on a smart phone that will never have any prospects in life. He'll never have a savings account, a home, a car, proper healthcare, probably won't have a wife or kids, or anything else worth having in life. He'll probably die in a homeless shelter younger than most because he won't have any of the aforementioned.

But hey -- at least he's "free". I myself would rather just fight for more than live like a hobo that people awkwardly pretends is invisible while he's panhandling on the sidewalk.
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Never tell the enemy what you will do. That would issuing public threats.
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I'm not a fucking chicken shit. I'm not ashamed of what I want. If they believe they are so right, then what does my rant on GLP bring cause as a threat to them?


If you're trying to shill-scare me....harhar, cute try. And very lame.


The only person that would feel threatened about my appeal in this thread is one who has something to lose....again, it's all in perception.


And anyway, do you actually think such the global movement towards such the shut down could be all done without someone getting a whiff of it?....get serious.

Not to mention, all this happens all around us because there is NO TRANSPARNCY with those in seats of power, stashed away in back rooms, making choices for the people....fucking without our permission.


Pfht, I would never dare to even think to be like them.
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Your choices are pretty simplistic. Most of us can't just drop out of the system. Restricting participation is more realistic. I've been doing that for years. I barter what I can, and trade for "favors".
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This is the best and most logical way.
 Quoting: tiger1



I love both of you, but I've gotta say, "....and the beat goes on." Nothing fundamentally changes. I do have concern that we are dangerously close to where fundamental changes are no longer going to be possible....definitely not probable....shoon.


I'm just sharing my view...and I'm grateful that you might allow me to. I hope you do.


I hope everyone reading along knows that you have my heart to yours, and I'm grateful you've participated....because it means you're thinking beyond just what we're told we should believe. That brings me near to a Cry of Loveliness.


Maybe we all, including me, needed a "hard push" to make us uncomfortable....my thread's quest was indeed to have us look deep into ourselves and assess what we are made of.

Few of you are ready like me to say, "Fuck all! Let's get this done, NOW!"....but I'm older. I have no grandchildren. I see no future of value for anyone alive today or for many generations ahead if we keep going at the pace that's wanted....by "they."


Mine is a kind of balls out, fuck you approach. I know this. I understand it'd be too hard for most, though.


Fuck me hippy-skipping, eh?......billlaugh


I'm now considering drinking and playing music tonight, because mostly mindless....charlie


Meh, why not just live my everyday from here on out in loose knit delirium, eh?


Nothing to see here on planet Earth. Just move along.


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Given we live in a duality reality, imagine you are right now given two choices to make in the fight for you and yours survival....think of that moment when you realize it comes down to you and your activities.

Your choices?


1) Keep participating in a corrupt system.

2) Stop participating in a corrupt system.



The first one only requires that you keep on complaining about this system, and do nothing else, KNOWING your life is going to continue on as if you're a slave to be used.


The second one requires that you stop all affiliation with money. Just stop paying your bills, buying your medicine and going to the doctor, stop buying technology....stop buying EVERYTHING. Stop using money. You know how hard this is going to be. You know perhaps people will die before "they" get the hint. But you also know it's the only way to free Humanity, so you do your part.



Now, this is not me telling you we all have to do this RIGHT NOW....heh, I'd be a fool to believe it would happen.

Given your back is put against a wall and you HAVE to make a choice, what would that choice be?


You don't even have to vote or respond, but I am asking you to think about this deeply.

I hope you do, because I do believe Humanity's future depends on us at least thinking clearly and critically about just what is the beast here.....the Money System.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I stopped participating in the corruption in 2001, meaning, I haven't paid a dime in income tax since. I dont drive with a license, I am uninsured, and I collect each month from the government via a number of methods. The only way for someone to survive.

So I do participate but only in the taking part. You won't make it if you dont take the handouts. In essence I am helping to bankrupt the system.

A war needs to start. it is the only way out of how the world is currently ruled. I am not referring to a classic war as the enemy has no honor and they don't use a classic military. Biological weapons, radiation and chemical based weapons/poisons are how they fight.

I out them on a daily basis. They can't win a ground battle once it starts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79065612



You are fooling yourself if you think you're going to bankrupt them. Where do you think their money comes from?


:cgmagic:


I do not begrudge your way of survival though....but I do ask you not to think you're doing all right by accepting money from them.

Heck, I have an appt on Jan 15th to apply for my SS. Throughout my life I've considered that it wouldn't be there for me. I'm now thinking it'll get pulled right after the application is approved.

You see, I have no faith in money and the people who dole it out. They're acting imbeciles when called on.

I mean, it took me calling SS three days in a row to even get an appt. because three times the call got dropped. The second time I had to hang up because of the loud and very obnoxious screeching noise that was happening (worse than a modem squawk, by far). I had asked her to call me back if the call got dropped. She said she would. She did not.

The IRS?....fuck me running. They are even worse. I'll probably not get any Stimulus pay, despite the fact I've done everything required.
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People forget how groceries come to them. They'll learn
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Here is what will happen in a few weeks when Joe Biden is your president, and this goes out to all the local Trumpers here.


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3. Use the corrupt system to your own benefit.
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3. Use the corrupt system to your own benefit.
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No integrity have you.....yoda


So much a part of the problem....and not the type of person I can "understand" or support in the way they go at the system.


How's your soul today, eh? Do you even know if you have one?

You do know you don't take it with you when you go, right?

Such a short respite of benefit, for no good outcome. For anyone.


Fucking user.....huffy
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too many sheeplebah

i cant believe how obvious things have gotten and yet still people refuse to wake up and will aggressively defend the status quo

full-spectrum propaganda is powerful mojo
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too many sheeplebah

i cant believe how obvious things have gotten and yet still people refuse to wake up and will aggressively defend the status quo

full-spectrum propaganda is powerful mojo
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I've had almost a whole beer now. I feel the edge starting to come off....but I'm still kind of....well, pissed off.


The fact of the matter is, if everyone global wide were to stop using money, it would eventually bring them to their knees. They are money driven....it would be like taking their daily requirement for water away.

The other fact of the matter is, so few are likely to rise to what I'm suggesting. There are too many excuses, whether valid or not. I'm sorry, but an excuse is an excuse is an excuse. Some WOULD die in this effort...but really, do you want to live on as a controlled bag of bones, especially while sick and already dying?...I mean, for fuck's sake, we're all born to die.

Heh, that's something else to push back on, but that doesn't really happen while alive.


I do so know how obvious things are....I don't think it could be anymore obvious....


....I dunno, I was just telling my guy perhaps this thread is my last GLP "swan song," that saying a lot given I'm a Wanderer....but I can't seem to be able to give up on Humanity.

When I'm out of my body, my love for Humanity is PROFOUND....and I've always brought that feeling back with me, when back in my body. It does not go away, that love. This thread is me speaking from that place of love....and no, my love is not always pretty.


We still have the opportunity, if we only find the way to take it....but time is short, youse guyses. I'm serious, we only have so much more time before we have nothing more to say about it.

Most of us here can indeed read the writing on the wall, and we do not like it, at all.


I jacked into you a bit today (and myself), but we do have to do something, eh?....we need to think critically and cooperatively.

There needs to be a global consensus that we are not going to take this shit sitting down.

Harder than hell to accomplish, I know....but you know, "swan song" and all.


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Re: Taking your very survival into your own hands, how will you respond?
Given we live in a duality reality, imagine you are right now given two choices to make in the fight for you and yours survival....think of that moment when you realize it comes down to you and your activities.

Your choices?


1) Keep participating in a corrupt system.

2) Stop participating in a corrupt system.



The first one only requires that you keep on complaining about this system, and do nothing else, KNOWING your life is going to continue on as if you're a slave to be used.


The second one requires that you stop all affiliation with money. Just stop paying your bills, buying your medicine and going to the doctor, stop buying technology....stop buying EVERYTHING. Stop using money. You know how hard this is going to be. You know perhaps people will die before "they" get the hint. But you also know it's the only way to free Humanity, so you do your part.



Now, this is not me telling you we all have to do this RIGHT NOW....heh, I'd be a fool to believe it would happen.

Given your back is put against a wall and you HAVE to make a choice, what would that choice be?


You don't even have to vote or respond, but I am asking you to think about this deeply.

I hope you do, because I do believe Humanity's future depends on us at least thinking clearly and critically about just what is the beast here.....the Money System.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy



The chinese would love NOTHING BETTER than for the average American to GIVE UP and "drop out".

Hang in and FIGHT for your survival.
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Given we live in a duality reality, imagine you are right now given two choices to make in the fight for you and yours survival....think of that moment when you realize it comes down to you and your activities.

Your choices?


1) Keep participating in a corrupt system.

2) Stop participating in a corrupt system.



The first one only requires that you keep on complaining about this system, and do nothing else, KNOWING your life is going to continue on as if you're a slave to be used.


The second one requires that you stop all affiliation with money. Just stop paying your bills, buying your medicine and going to the doctor, stop buying technology....stop buying EVERYTHING. Stop using money. You know how hard this is going to be. You know perhaps people will die before "they" get the hint. But you also know it's the only way to free Humanity, so you do your part.



Now, this is not me telling you we all have to do this RIGHT NOW....heh, I'd be a fool to believe it would happen.

Given your back is put against a wall and you HAVE to make a choice, what would that choice be?


You don't even have to vote or respond, but I am asking you to think about this deeply.

I hope you do, because I do believe Humanity's future depends on us at least thinking clearly and critically about just what is the beast here.....the Money System.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I stopped participating in the corruption in 2001, meaning, I haven't paid a dime in income tax since. I dont drive with a license, I am uninsured, and I collect each month from the government via a number of methods. The only way for someone to survive.

So I do participate but only in the taking part. You won't make it if you dont take the handouts. In essence I am helping to bankrupt the system.

A war needs to start. it is the only way out of how the world is currently ruled. I am not referring to a classic war as the enemy has no honor and they don't use a classic military. Biological weapons, radiation and chemical based weapons/poisons are how they fight.

I out them on a daily basis. They can't win a ground battle once it starts.
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The only way to avoid becoming a cyborg zombie is to not participate. It is incredibly difficult to NOT engage, but it is nothing less than genius.
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I'm wondering, if everyone were to stop using money, about how long would it take to shut the system down?

Days? Weeks?....I don't think it would take longer than that, do you?....shrug
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Heh, I was just reading through this thread again. I had meant to respond to this one, but it got away from me.


My response?.....catfu


THAT'S what I want us to do.
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Given we live in a duality reality, imagine you are right now given two choices to make in the fight for you and yours survival....think of that moment when you realize it comes down to you and your activities.

Your choices?


1) Keep participating in a corrupt system.

2) Stop participating in a corrupt system.



The first one only requires that you keep on complaining about this system, and do nothing else, KNOWING your life is going to continue on as if you're a slave to be used.


The second one requires that you stop all affiliation with money. Just stop paying your bills, buying your medicine and going to the doctor, stop buying technology....stop buying EVERYTHING. Stop using money. You know how hard this is going to be. You know perhaps people will die before "they" get the hint. But you also know it's the only way to free Humanity, so you do your part.



Now, this is not me telling you we all have to do this RIGHT NOW....heh, I'd be a fool to believe it would happen.

Given your back is put against a wall and you HAVE to make a choice, what would that choice be?


You don't even have to vote or respond, but I am asking you to think about this deeply.

I hope you do, because I do believe Humanity's future depends on us at least thinking clearly and critically about just what is the beast here.....the Money System.
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


I stopped participating in the corruption in 2001, meaning, I haven't paid a dime in income tax since. I dont drive with a license, I am uninsured, and I collect each month from the government via a number of methods. The only way for someone to survive.

So I do participate but only in the taking part. You won't make it if you dont take the handouts. In essence I am helping to bankrupt the system.

A war needs to start. it is the only way out of how the world is currently ruled. I am not referring to a classic war as the enemy has no honor and they don't use a classic military. Biological weapons, radiation and chemical based weapons/poisons are how they fight.

I out them on a daily basis. They can't win a ground battle once it starts.
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The only way to avoid becoming a cyborg zombie is to not participate. It is incredibly difficult to NOT engage, but it is nothing less than genius.
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From one "great mind" to another, thank you!


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My son just came over and we were talking. I didn't tell him the subject matter of this thread.

But his final point to our conversation was, "Nobody gets rich by being honest, Mom."


This was his unsolicited response to us talking about nobody wanting to do an oil change on a $150,000 BMW i8 due to the liability. Not a very large dealership or a very good master mechanic.


We all have perceptions of the very wealthy, don't we?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


That sounds like opportunity.

Mechanic specializing in oil changes for luxary vehicles. Single owner LLC to shield owner from liability, $200k liability insurance policy.

BMW oil pan is aluminum and easy to strip drain plug. All it takes is mechanical aptitude to not strip it. But low skilled people they hire strip them all the time because the use air wratchet and don't start it by hand.

Only issue to work out is location. I think mobile, going to customers is best route. Just need to outfit a mobile repair van properly.
 Quoting: Strate8


How are you going to crawl under a hyper car with a carbon fiber body that sits about 3 inches off the ground?

What happens if you leave jack marks on the car or spill oil on the customer's $20,000 virgin driveway? Or scratch the carbon fiber rear hatch area removing the three acoustic metal and beauty shields to access the engine? Not to mention the stigma of someone rolling around on a creeper in a driveway of a gated community. The pearl clutching would reach a frenzied pitch and the HOA would have you by your ankles before you got a chance to get under the car.

An oil change at the BMW dealer would cost a little over a hundred dollars. They have a rack to handle that car, and technicians that have had training on that vehicle and have likely serviced others in the past. They are also able to handle other service items, like recalls and programming aspects related to service bulletins. If something goes wrong during service or after, they also have the best leverage with the manufacturer to get the situation resolved in the quickest manner.

BMW also has a concierge service where they will come and pick up the car, service it and return it to you freshly detailed.

Not that I couldn't or wouldn't do an oil change on one if I were put to it, but regardless it still only pays me 0.3 hours, which is a whopping $10 before taxes. That's a whole lot of risk for a ten spot. And I'm not detailing it after, either.
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You bunch of liars. If you don't want to participate in the corrupt system, I dare you to toss all your technology. But you are not ready to give up that piece of security now are you.
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You bunch of liars. If you don't want to participate in the corrupt system, I dare you to toss all your technology. But you are not ready to give up that piece of security now are you.
 Quoting: My Fear



How do you know what I'm prepared to give up?....shrug


You are projecting....at least a bit.
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You don't sell? What's wrong with selling? Freedom to contract is a good and natural right.
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The problem with it is most of the ones in "charge" of the overall flow of money don't give a flying fuck about us wee wittle people just wanting to live well and fulfilled.

That's why it's such a loss, losing all our mom and pop businesses to huge corporations...we've lost our family feel.

I wonder if those small business owners would be willing to shut their doors for however long it took....would they chose corruption? Or would they see the writing on the wall and participate in a complete system shut down?


You see, it really all comes down to our personal metal.


Do we or don't we want to be slaves to a controlling powers money system?


Heh, I imagine so many internal 'but, but, buts' at all I'm suggesting. Us humans are fabulous with the making of excuses.


I'm telling you straight up, though....no one of earthly power is going to make an excuse for your complete entrainment. It's what they want.


Are we actually going to just give it to them?....shrug
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It's an important distinction though that value and their fiat are not the same thing. It's hard to totally remove their legal tender from our lives, but we don't have to suffer in ignorance of how to grow substantial value regardless of them. Crypto is a prime example, made as a counter response to their theft, and a very good one.
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I'm sorry syncro, but all I see in your words are excuses for a corrupt system. You appear to me to be very attached to the system...hugs


The only reason we think we need a currency system to survive, is because we've been entrained to believe we need it!!!....scream


I think we are fools if we think every civilization in all of creation has used a currency system to manage their lives....ffs.


Youse guyses, you really need to throw your boxes of conformity away....because....you do know who has formed those boxes, right?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


What you call "currency" has, in fact, existed for millenia. Gold, silver, feathers, cowry shells, etc., etc. have been employed as an intermediary means of exchange since humans developed any degree of specialization in their societal units.

I have a dozen eggs you'd like to acquire. You offer me carrots. I don't need or want carrots. You do have a 90% silver dime I agree to take for the eggs.

I'd like to buy a pound of nails from my neighbor. I offer him a dozen eggs for the nails. He doesn't want eggs but he'll take a silver dime in exchange for the nails so I'm good to go.

On and on it goes.

As to "refusing to participate"?

I'm guessing you'd like to send a "message" to the Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg's of the world?

So let's stop using Facebook. I don't use it so I'm not participating in that way already. But let's use them as an example. Everyone stop using Facebook tomorrow.

Who'll be the first to lose their jobs? Zuckerberg? Not going to happen. It'll be any of your neighbors, family, friends who are low level employees who'll lose their jobs.

Stop using Amazon? Any idea how many very small businesses use Amazon as a sales channel? Those small businesses will be gone long before Bezos knows business has tailed off in any significant way.

The lockdowns here have devastated who the most? Small business owners and their five, ten, twenty employees.
Walmart, Target, etc. are all doing just fine.

I live, and enjoy, a minimalist lifestyle. We grow a lot of our own food, I roast my own coffee, I roll my own cigarettes, most of my commerce with the exception of my wife's prescriptions, is with small businesses. Regardless of where I buy the scrips I'm ultimately dealing with "big pharma" and for her health I'll make that compromise.

I think, and that's a dangerous assumption, I have an idea of where you're wanting to head and I agree with it.

At the same time? Limiting us to the choice of keep or stop participating serves to oversimplify, in my opinion, a very complex equation.
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I will always do what I want no matter what comes my way. If that means being a martyr for freedom, so be it.
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I take it serious.
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You give up and let your children know their parents didn't have the balls to be free!
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Fuck all of you who want to give up.
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I'm not living in a control grid period.
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Regarding the topic at hand, I have already decided I will not participate in a corrupt system as much as is possible. Although I am entrenched in it as a worker, (nothing against the free loaders...) I do have a few avenues available to break with the system and be able to thrive.

In medieval times, without black and metal smiths to forge swords, chain mail, and other weapons, there would be no Lords or Knights. And they knew it. Smithing was a very secretive and controlled industry and they enjoyed a high social status as a result of being a producer of things of value.

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When we invariably lose trade with China the makers, fixers and manufacturers of our great country will rise again.
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The problem with it is most of the ones in "charge" of the overall flow of money don't give a flying fuck about us wee wittle people just wanting to live well and fulfilled.

That's why it's such a loss, losing all our mom and pop businesses to huge corporations...we've lost our family feel.

I wonder if those small business owners would be willing to shut their doors for however long it took....would they chose corruption? Or would they see the writing on the wall and participate in a complete system shut down?


You see, it really all comes down to our personal metal.


Do we or don't we want to be slaves to a controlling powers money system?


Heh, I imagine so many internal 'but, but, buts' at all I'm suggesting. Us humans are fabulous with the making of excuses.


I'm telling you straight up, though....no one of earthly power is going to make an excuse for your complete entrainment. It's what they want.


Are we actually going to just give it to them?....shrug
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


It's an important distinction though that value and their fiat are not the same thing. It's hard to totally remove their legal tender from our lives, but we don't have to suffer in ignorance of how to grow substantial value regardless of them. Crypto is a prime example, made as a counter response to their theft, and a very good one.
 Quoting: syncro



I'm sorry syncro, but all I see in your words are excuses for a corrupt system. You appear to me to be very attached to the system...hugs


The only reason we think we need a currency system to survive, is because we've been entrained to believe we need it!!!....scream


I think we are fools if we think every civilization in all of creation has used a currency system to manage their lives....ffs.


Youse guyses, you really need to throw your boxes of conformity away....because....you do know who has formed those boxes, right?
 Quoting: cosmicgypsy


What you call "currency" has, in fact, existed for millenia. Gold, silver, feathers, cowry shells, etc., etc. have been employed as an intermediary means of exchange since humans developed any degree of specialization in their societal units.

I have a dozen eggs you'd like to acquire. You offer me carrots. I don't need or want carrots. You do have a 90% silver dime I agree to take for the eggs.

I'd like to buy a pound of nails from my neighbor. I offer him a dozen eggs for the nails. He doesn't want eggs but he'll take a silver dime in exchange for the nails so I'm good to go.

On and on it goes.

As to "refusing to participate"?

I'm guessing you'd like to send a "message" to the Jeff Bezos and Mark Zuckerberg's of the world?

So let's stop using Facebook. I don't use it so I'm not participating in that way already. But let's use them as an example. Everyone stop using Facebook tomorrow.

Who'll be the first to lose their jobs? Zuckerberg? Not going to happen. It'll be any of your neighbors, family, friends who are low level employees who'll lose their jobs.

Stop using Amazon? Any idea how many very small businesses use Amazon as a sales channel? Those small businesses will be gone long before Bezos knows business has tailed off in any significant way.

The lockdowns here have devastated who the most? Small business owners and their five, ten, twenty employees.
Walmart, Target, etc. are all doing just fine.

I live, and enjoy, a minimalist lifestyle. We grow a lot of our own food, I roast my own coffee, I roll my own cigarettes, most of my commerce with the exception of my wife's prescriptions, is with small businesses. Regardless of where I buy the scrips I'm ultimately dealing with "big pharma" and for her health I'll make that compromise.

I think, and that's a dangerous assumption, I have an idea of where you're wanting to head and I agree with it.

At the same time? Limiting us to the choice of keep or stop participating serves to oversimplify, in my opinion, a very complex equation.
 Quoting: Larry D. Croc




Thank you for laying out quite astutely how entrained we are, even all the while we are fighting back in the best way we can.


I still want everyone to bite back on it, all of it....and btw, what isn't complex with what were living with now?....and you do realize it's not going to stop, right?


I know no one is going to do what I'm describing....and that IS a bitter pill for me to swallow....but I accept it, nasty tasting as it is.

I can only make a suggestion. I have no more power than that.


We are only what we believe we can be, eh?....shrug if only it just weren't up to controllers what we are believing.


You're no dolt, Larry. You know how the cards are stacked against us. You are well aware of ALL the ways they are entraining us....

....sigh there's nothing easy here. Nothing worth gaining is going to be easy.

It's pitiful, what Humanity has been reduced to....is going to be reduced to.

I just want to fight back, HARD, and I don't want to be alone while doing it.

And I see I'm not wholly alone....but still, a few people, compared to the whole of us....it's not going to make a difference.

You, me, and others?....we'll do the best we can, I suppose.

What more can we expect from ourselves, right?


Please do know that you do have my heart to you and yours....hugs
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This is the ONLY way...

They pull a knife, you pull a gun. They send one of ours to the hospital, we send 10 of them to the morgue.
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I don’t care about surviving and I have nothing to lose.
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I can empathize, because I used to feel that way.
But I have been brought through to today across a sea of impossible odds and obstacles, so God must have something in mind I need to accomplish before I lay me down to sleep.
One more day.
Then another week.
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Ignore him, no we aren't.

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This is the ONLY way...

They pull a knife, you pull a gun. They send one of ours to the hospital, we send 10 of them to the morgue.
 Quoting: Bonefortoona



Why does it have to get violent?....we just stop participating, eh?

If there were a path of any less resistance, all the while being undoubtedly effectual, I don't know what it would be.


We just quit the game....heh, many of us have practice at that, too....rolleyes
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When the time comes, I will drop Trough, bend over, and tell the Gov to come and search me themselves. I look forward to farting in their faces. I will eat beans for weeks when they get close.
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I don’t care about surviving and I have nothing to lose.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75211114


I can empathize, because I used to feel that way.
But I have been brought through to today across a sea of impossible odds and obstacles, so God must have something in mind I need to accomplish before I lay me down to sleep.
One more day.
Then another week.
 Quoting: President-Elect Bill Wick



This is the epitome of the good human spirit....hf
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


...I adapt to the unknown,
under wandering stars I've grown,
by myself, but not alone...

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When the time comes, I will drop Trough, bend over, and tell the Gov to come and search me themselves. I look forward to farting in their faces. I will eat beans for weeks when they get close.
 Quoting: Beep Boop



Now, now....what have I said about violence?.....churchlady


chuckle.....hf
You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller


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by myself, but not alone...

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