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Did president Trump actually sign the insurrection act

 
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[link to escobar.house.gov (secure)]

Congresswoman Veronica Escobar


House votes to curtail Insurrection Act powers


The Democratic-controlled House voted Monday to add limits to the Insurrection Act after President Trump threatened to invoke it to deploy active-duty troops against recent protests over racial injustice.

In a 215-190 vote, the House approved the Insurrection Act changes as an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act.

The vote fell largely along party-lines, though 14 Democrats voted with Republicans against the amendment. One Republican, Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (Wash.), voted for the amendment.

Last month, Trump threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act at the height of nationwide protests sparked by the death of George Floyd, saying he would deploy active-duty troops if governors did not “dominate” their streets.

The 1807 law creates an exception to the general prohibition on using the U.S. military to enforce domestic laws. It was last used by then-President George H.W. Bush at the request of California’s governor to quell the 1992 Rodney King riots.

Trump has not yet invoked the Insurrection Act, but Democrats have continued pushing changes to it after federal law enforcement cleared protesters from Lafayette Square outside the White House with force, Trump deployed thousands of National Guardsmen in Washington, D.C., and the administration ordered active-duty soldiers to deploy to outside D.C. to be ready to enter the city if ordered.

Monday’s amendment comes after the House Armed Services Committee rejected a similar amendment at the beginning of the month after several centrist or vulnerable Democrats voted against it.

The amendment approved Monday would require a president consult with Congress “in every possible instance” before invoking the Insurrection Act, as well as require the president and Defense secretary to make a certification to Congress that a state is unwilling or unable to suppress an insurrection in order to invoke the law. The certification would have to include “demonstrable” evidence that a state is unwilling or unable to act.

“Today, if the president of the United States chooses to use military force abroad the president would have to consult with Congress,” said Rep. Veronica Escobar (D-Texas), the sponsor of the amendment. “Yet that same consultation is not required for use of military force on American soil.”

The amendment would also specify that troops deployed under the Insurrection Act are not allowed to participate in search, seizure, arrest or “other similar activity” unless they are “otherwise expressly authorized by law.”

Republicans argued the amendment would dangerously constrain troops and delay a president’s ability to respond to a riot.

“This is dangerous,” Rep. Trent Kelly (R-Miss.) said. “We’re having a knee-jerk reaction to what we think the president might do. Not what he did, but what we think he might do.”
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Either way we ain’t dying old and it’s sure fucking interesting and historic
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It seems like.


 Quoting: A R K


All this clown is doing is repeating someone else that he saw on the internet!

That is not evidence.

This is a joke...
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The Act empowers the U.S. president to call into service the U.S. Armed Forces and the National Guard:

when requested by a state's legislature, or governor if the legislature cannot be convened, to address an insurrection against that state ,
to address an insurrection, in any state, which makes it impracticable to enforce the law, or
to address an insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination or conspiracy, in any state, which results in the deprivation of Constitutionally-secured rights, and where the state is unable, fails, or refuses to protect said rights
 Quoting: WW3NuclearApocalypse


bump
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Its our only hope at this point.
Either trump will win buying us a few more years of safety
Or trump was just put in to get a record of everyone supporting him ,that way they know who will resist.
Its all or we are phuc'ed
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This.

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I hope he did. I pray that there are some 3 a.m. raids on the traitors that we'll hear about when we wake up tomorrow. One can dream...
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Well. airspace was cleared out for 45 minutes around the timeframe he was supposedly signing it. And a small aircraft was being flanked by a fighter jet shortly before the clearing was lifted. Possibly Trump going to a intelligence location while military organized?


Mark my words- this is going to turn out fantastic.
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You're god damn right he did!
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No, I don’t think he did.
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I have seen bits and pieces saying he did and some saying he didn’t. Does anyone know for sure or do you have any links or proof it has been done or not?
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Isn't there already an insurrection act. Why would he have to sign another one?
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YEP.
You will see it in action tomorrow.
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I have heard yes from 3 different sources (on the net but seemingly reliable). Tomorrow we will know.
 Quoting: continuity


That doesn't mean anything, if the original source was the same.

A lie told a thousand times... is still a lie.


peace
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I have seen bits and pieces saying he did and some saying he didn’t. Does anyone know for sure or do you have any links or proof it has been done or not?
 Quoting: ThreeLittleLambs


Isn't there already an insurrection act. Why would he have to sign another one?
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Yep, it would just be invoked. You can easily tell the rumor is false because the people who created it don't actually understand what they're speaking of.
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I have seen bits and pieces saying he did and some saying he didn’t. Does anyone know for sure or do you have any links or proof it has been done or not?
 Quoting: ThreeLittleLambs


It may be timed to come out for when they spring the 25th
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I seriously doubt it. I get so tired of all this crap "I heard from a source so and so" Either the source is crap or they just want to put bs out. It has gone beyond stupid at this point.
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So go play with your dolls and jump off the board asshole!
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IF he did we won't know it until after the blackouts hit and Marshall Law happens.
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That sounds reasonable.

Plus Military would need to have the Airwaves seized and be in control of communications (satellite or wire driven) to monitor activities of terror groups.
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Re: Did president Trump actually sign the insurrection act
YEP.
You will see it in action tomorrow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79895717


I have heard yes from 3 different sources (on the net but seemingly reliable). Tomorrow we will know.
 Quoting: continuity


That doesn't mean anything, if the original source was the same.

A lie told a thousand times... is still a lie.


peace
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Hesright

It's an old psyop trick to make it look bigger and more believable than it is.
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no
Always, in all instances... ctfd
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[link to escobar.house.gov (secure)]

Congresswoman Veronica Escobar


House votes to curtail Insurrection Act powers


The Democratic-controlled House voted Monday to add limits to the Insurrection Act after President Trump threatened to invoke it to deploy active-duty troops against recent protests over racial injustice.

In a 215-190 vote, the House approved the Insurrection Act changes as an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act.

The vote fell largely along party-lines, though 14 Democrats voted with Republicans against the amendment. One Republican, Rep. Jaime Herrera Beutler (Wash.), voted for the amendment.

Last month, Trump threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act at the height of nationwide protests sparked by the death of George Floyd, saying he would deploy active-duty troops if governors did not “dominate” their streets.

The 1807 law creates an exception to the general prohibition on using the U.S. military to enforce domestic laws. It was last used by then-President George H.W. Bush at the request of California’s governor to quell the 1992 Rodney King riots.

Trump has not yet invoked the Insurrection Act, but Democrats have continued pushing changes to it after federal law enforcement cleared protesters from Lafayette Square outside the White House with force, Trump deployed thousands of National Guardsmen in Washington, D.C., and the administration ordered active-duty soldiers to deploy to outside D.C. to be ready to enter the city if ordered.

Monday’s amendment comes after the House Armed Services Committee rejected a similar amendment at the beginning of the month after several centrist or vulnerable Democrats voted against it.

The amendment approved Monday would require a president consult with Congress “in every possible instance” before invoking the Insurrection Act, as well as require the president and Defense secretary to make a certification to Congress that a state is unwilling or unable to suppress an insurrection in order to invoke the law. The certification would have to include “demonstrable” evidence that a state is unwilling or unable to act.

“Today, if the president of the United States chooses to use military force abroad the president would have to consult with Congress,” said Rep. Veronica Escobar (D-Texas), the sponsor of the amendment. “Yet that same consultation is not required for use of military force on American soil.”

The amendment would also specify that troops deployed under the Insurrection Act are not allowed to participate in search, seizure, arrest or “other similar activity” unless they are “otherwise expressly authorized by law.”

Republicans argued the amendment would dangerously constrain troops and delay a president’s ability to respond to a riot.

“This is dangerous,” Rep. Trent Kelly (R-Miss.) said. “We’re having a knee-jerk reaction to what we think the president might do. Not what he did, but what we think he might do.”
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fake news senate never approved.
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Of Course
That was the PLAN
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Well after Pelosi sent her letter today to congressional Democrats detailing tomorrow’s plan to give VP Pence 24 hrs to invoke the 25th Amendment, tonight would be the night to do it. He cannot possibly leave it in Pence’s hands tomorrow.
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No, don't listen to the wack jobs here. The man can't even tweet anymore. He has no power, he is just timing out
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Even if he did. Nobody will comply with trumps orders at this point.
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I have seen bits and pieces saying he did and some saying he didn’t. Does anyone know for sure or do you have any links or proof it has been done or not?
 Quoting: ThreeLittleLambs


I doubt it.

saw part of a video by a guy with an English accent who said Trump did, but also babbled on about all kinds of stuff, power outage in the whole of Pakistan, and also that every third vehicle entering Canada is likely to be searched, and that Quebec has a curfew.

Yes, Quebec has a scamdemic curfew. Not related to any insurrection act.
The land border between US and Canada in general is closed, only essential traffic allowed. Searches are normal, duh!

So there goes the credibility of English man.
But it was a nice thought.
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Don’t know... but everyone is hinting at it, and there seems to be odd troop movement as well as restricted air space.


We don’t know where Trump or his family is at either.


I may be completely wrong, but it seems like we’re getting rather close to SHTF.
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I know this is hearsay, but on that site that sounds like red bit, someone said that their friend in Scotland said he was absolutely sure he saw trump and his secret service escorts in Scotland yesterday I think it was. Like I said I don’t know how true it is. Just letting you know what was said.
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Fear not, there is a fearless man named Ret. Colonel Douglas Macgregor who is doing something somewhere that’s important for something that matters for those that know what truly matters.
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As much as I’d love it to be so I’m leaning towards no..

The house will impeach tomorrow w/o a doubt. I think the senate could vote later that day and given all of the gop who have spoken against Trump it’s possible they get the 2/3 that they need.

We seriously could be looking at Trump removed from office by this time tomorrow.

If Trump had a card to play it doesn’t appear he played it.
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Hard to tell these days, we have some members (Not OP) larping about the president giving speeches and enacting the insurrection act. Meanwhile people are bumping and five starring the thread that haven't even read the posts, which show no fucking evidence whatsoever!!! Stop pinning bullshit threads!
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I hope so...I hope for something to happen...but it won't. Biden will be sworn in....there will be a change in leadership within 2 years to Kameltoe.
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Biden will never be president. This much I know.
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If ex navy seal Jocko said he has verified proof then I go with him
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