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Secretizer
User ID: 78467371 United States 01/20/2021 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? Trump chickened out. Quoting: Secretizer He never had the intestinal fortitude to do what needed to be done. RIP USA 1776 to 2021 And I'm not beyond agreeing with this type of stance. But if that were the case, why spend your final days signing off on executive orders, moving around positions in your administration, etc. Like I said, if I were on my way out and it was 100% certain, I'd be spending my time quite a bit differently. I think he had intentions to do something but Jan 6 scared him off. But then I am just speculating like everyone else. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77889465 United States 01/20/2021 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? Exactly OP Quoting: Norske_in_Merika What about Trump calling out foreign election interference from China Pompeo calling out Communist China Just to turn the entire nation over to them the next day ? WTF ? ? Perhaps it was all just an act to keep y'all high on hopeium. They want the reality of today to hit you like a wall of bricks. You're confused. I'm not into hopium. I'm a realist, but I think it is a legit question to ask because it isn't logical. Why go through all the extra work when you're just grinding out the final hours? If I found out the world was ending, the last thing I would be doing is making sure I'm paying my utility bills... I mean I guess it could all be some elaborate disinfo ploy, but that's pretty far-fetched and stupid. I still apply the "simplest solution is usually the correct solution". Then why does the simplest answer elude you? Simplest answer: Trump put those people into those positions for the sole purpose of boosting their resume. They are entitled to a lot of benefits now and will receive well paid future employment based solely on this fact alone. If not here then in foreign countries, for their "inside knowledge" of Washington. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75209090 United States 01/20/2021 02:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? Trump chickened out. Quoting: Secretizer He never had the intestinal fortitude to do what needed to be done. RIP USA 1776 to 2021 And I'm not beyond agreeing with this type of stance. But if that were the case, why spend your final days signing off on executive orders, moving around positions in your administration, etc. Like I said, if I were on my way out and it was 100% certain, I'd be spending my time quite a bit differently. Agreed. It is almost like a deal was worked out for them to go away in peace. Notice we hear nothing about impeachment starting up in Senate? Also Roberts saying they shouldn't do it. That right there is weird for Roberts to come to the rescue. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73615824 United States 01/20/2021 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? Exactly OP Quoting: Norske_in_Merika What about Trump calling out foreign election interference from China Pompeo calling out Communist China Just to turn the entire nation over to them the next day ? WTF ? ? Yeah Pompeo with China for sure is strange. Super aggressive. DNI Radcliff not gonna do shit with his report nut throw it in the trash probably. Not only all this but what about the kracken, german servers, italy affidavits and HE DID NOT PARDON HIMSELF. WTH AND not only did he not pardon Julian Assange he pardoned a bunch of riff raff who HATE HIS GUTS |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77811198 Mexico 01/20/2021 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? Fairly simple answer when you combine these acts with the lifting of the lobbying ban on former administration officials. Since the left made it CRYSTAL clear that they intend to make ‘Trump loyalists’ unemployable, President Trump gave many a resume boost to allow for them to earn as much as they can in the lobbying world. A parting gift for their loyalty and service. Quoting: Larphillips This sounds like the correct answer. Doesn’t matter if they had the position for just a few days, they will market themselves as such for the rest of their lives. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75209090 United States 01/20/2021 02:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? Exactly OP Quoting: Norske_in_Merika What about Trump calling out foreign election interference from China Pompeo calling out Communist China Just to turn the entire nation over to them the next day ? WTF ? ? Perhaps it was all just an act to keep y'all high on hopeium. They want the reality of today to hit you like a wall of bricks. You're confused. I'm not into hopium. I'm a realist, but I think it is a legit question to ask because it isn't logical. Why go through all the extra work when you're just grinding out the final hours? If I found out the world was ending, the last thing I would be doing is making sure I'm paying my utility bills... I mean I guess it could all be some elaborate disinfo ploy, but that's pretty far-fetched and stupid. I still apply the "simplest solution is usually the correct solution". Then why does the simplest answer elude you? Simplest answer: Trump put those people into those positions for the sole purpose of boosting their resume. They are entitled to a lot of benefits now and will receive well paid future employment based solely on this fact alone. If not here then in foreign countries, for their "inside knowledge" of Washington. Your answers suck that's why we are discussing it. Pompeo was high up in the CIA already and had good resume. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75209090 United States 01/20/2021 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? Exactly OP Quoting: Norske_in_Merika What about Trump calling out foreign election interference from China Pompeo calling out Communist China Just to turn the entire nation over to them the next day ? WTF ? ? Yeah Pompeo with China for sure is strange. Super aggressive. DNI Radcliff not gonna do shit with his report nut throw it in the trash probably. Not only all this but what about the kracken, german servers, italy affidavits and HE DID NOT PARDON HIMSELF. WTH AND not only did he not pardon Julian Assange he pardoned a bunch of riff raff who HATE HIS GUTS Yeah let's not even get into those lawyers. That's a whole other situation. Just these main guys within the administration is enough. Even if they plan on going to lobby somewhere, okay thats understandable. But wouldn't you still just chill on making DRASTIC changes in your last week or two? |
ifSHTF
(OP) User ID: 72534682 United States 01/20/2021 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? Exactly OP Quoting: Norske_in_Merika What about Trump calling out foreign election interference from China Pompeo calling out Communist China Just to turn the entire nation over to them the next day ? WTF ? ? Perhaps it was all just an act to keep y'all high on hopeium. They want the reality of today to hit you like a wall of bricks. You're confused. I'm not into hopium. I'm a realist, but I think it is a legit question to ask because it isn't logical. Why go through all the extra work when you're just grinding out the final hours? If I found out the world was ending, the last thing I would be doing is making sure I'm paying my utility bills... I mean I guess it could all be some elaborate disinfo ploy, but that's pretty far-fetched and stupid. I still apply the "simplest solution is usually the correct solution". Then why does the simplest answer elude you? Simplest answer: Trump put those people into those positions for the sole purpose of boosting their resume. They are entitled to a lot of benefits now and will receive well paid future employment based solely on this fact alone. If not here then in foreign countries, for their "inside knowledge" of Washington. yeah, that is also speculative. he wasn't padding any resume's for the ppl that were placed into a lame duck role for a week or a day. i am not sure how the long term benefits work for someone who was in a cabinet position for a day, so that could be plausible? however, it also doesn't touch on the last minute flurry of exec orders and released/declass docs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79287281 United States 01/20/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? 30k troops was probably for the simple reason of obscuring joe's low numbers. But it also gives everything a much more dictatorial tone which i think was actually part of the goal too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79287281 I didn't even see the soldiers on tv. Did you see them? Was the event at a separate building than the capitol? I saw no fence or soldiers on TV. There weren't many at all at the actual event that I could see. I didn't watch. But i assume there wasn't a live crowd. And media pounded the troop numbers, maybe it was fake just like the pandemic. |
Larphillips
User ID: 78895011 United States 01/20/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? This is what makes no sense to me- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43440585 Everybody, including the president, knew ahead of time there would be massive election fraud . He even had executive orders to deal with it. We even knew about Hammer and Scorecard and obviously Trump had to know about the connections with Dominion and the DS. All this planning and nothing, not even a workable strategy to counter the steal, makes absolutely no sense. Trump and his team found out quickly that he had zero support from his own Justice Department, from the courts, and from Congressional leaders. The fix was in and it ran deeper than he could’ve imagined. While he had the law on his side, he had no means of indictment, arrest, conviction or any other leverage, The ‘system,’ regardless of party is inherently corrupt and every career politician and bureaucrat is complicit. “A person is smart, people are stupid.” “Nobody knows until everybody knows” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43440585 United States 01/20/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? I am beginning to think the simplest answer is blackmail or threat. Leave peacefully with you, your family and your legacy intact or suffer the consequences and the DS still wins. The best option in a lose-lose situation. |
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ifSHTF
(OP) User ID: 72534682 United States 01/20/2021 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? This is what makes no sense to me- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43440585 Everybody, including the president, knew ahead of time there would be massive election fraud . He even had executive orders to deal with it. We even knew about Hammer and Scorecard and obviously Trump had to know about the connections with Dominion and the DS. All this planning and nothing, not even a workable strategy to counter the steal, makes absolutely no sense. Trump and his team found out quickly that he had zero support from his own Justice Department, from the courts, and from Congressional leaders. The fix was in and it ran deeper than he could’ve imagined. While he had the law on his side, he had no means of indictment, arrest, conviction or any other leverage, The ‘system,’ regardless of party is inherently corrupt and every career politician and bureaucrat is complicit. If that were the case, he could have anonymously disclosed everything with a massive information dump and let the information play out in the court of public opinion. I am also not beyond saying Trump or his team could have also been disinfo. The only thing I completely understand is that all of the information surrounding this does not add up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75209090 United States 01/20/2021 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? I am beginning to think the simplest answer is blackmail or threat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43440585 Leave peacefully with you, your family and your legacy intact or suffer the consequences and the DS still wins. The best option in a lose-lose situation. Could be something like that. Or promises to not come after him as hard if he left. Maybe even some money or type of deal was offered in the end. I dont think threats could have done it. He was threatened the entire time for certain. |
Larphillips
User ID: 78895011 United States 01/20/2021 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? This is what makes no sense to me- Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43440585 Everybody, including the president, knew ahead of time there would be massive election fraud . He even had executive orders to deal with it. We even knew about Hammer and Scorecard and obviously Trump had to know about the connections with Dominion and the DS. All this planning and nothing, not even a workable strategy to counter the steal, makes absolutely no sense. Trump and his team found out quickly that he had zero support from his own Justice Department, from the courts, and from Congressional leaders. The fix was in and it ran deeper than he could’ve imagined. While he had the law on his side, he had no means of indictment, arrest, conviction or any other leverage, The ‘system,’ regardless of party is inherently corrupt and every career politician and bureaucrat is complicit. If that were the case, he could have anonymously disclosed everything with a massive information dump and let the information play out in the court of public opinion. I am also not beyond saying Trump or his team could have also been disinfo. The only thing I completely understand is that all of the information surrounding this does not add up. Don’t forget, while the House impeached, it’s the Senate who has the power of trial, conviction, and punishment. It’s queued up and could be immediate. They held all the chips to shut Trump down completely. They also have the power to destroy his family and bury his company. Blackmail complete and total. “A person is smart, people are stupid.” “Nobody knows until everybody knows” |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 29143373 United States 01/20/2021 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? I am beginning to think the simplest answer is blackmail or threat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43440585 Leave peacefully with you, your family and your legacy intact or suffer the consequences and the DS still wins. The best option in a lose-lose situation. bullshit. blackmail and threats were always going to part of the job. what retard would would have "drain the swamp" and "lock her up" slogans and think they would not be threatened or blackmailed? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77811198 Mexico 01/20/2021 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72660960 Perhaps it was all just an act to keep y'all high on hopeium. They want the reality of today to hit you like a wall of bricks. You're confused. I'm not into hopium. I'm a realist, but I think it is a legit question to ask because it isn't logical. Why go through all the extra work when you're just grinding out the final hours? If I found out the world was ending, the last thing I would be doing is making sure I'm paying my utility bills... I mean I guess it could all be some elaborate disinfo ploy, but that's pretty far-fetched and stupid. I still apply the "simplest solution is usually the correct solution". Then why does the simplest answer elude you? Simplest answer: Trump put those people into those positions for the sole purpose of boosting their resume. They are entitled to a lot of benefits now and will receive well paid future employment based solely on this fact alone. If not here then in foreign countries, for their "inside knowledge" of Washington. yeah, that is also speculative. he wasn't padding any resume's for the ppl that were placed into a lame duck role for a week or a day. i am not sure how the long term benefits work for someone who was in a cabinet position for a day, so that could be plausible? however, it also doesn't touch on the last minute flurry of exec orders and released/declass docs. Well, if you are going to use that position in your resume for lobbying or for a place in a think tank or for selling conferences, a day or a week is good enough. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75209090 United States 01/20/2021 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? Oh yes it's 100 percent over now. Once Biden was inaugurated he can stop any and all investigations, the military could have stepped in but they are apparently a disgrace if they chose not to do anything. Why all the troops and 2000 deputized marshals the last few days, just wtf were some of these moves? Why even deputize 1 Marshal, you sure as fuck aren't using them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43440585 United States 01/20/2021 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? I am beginning to think the simplest answer is blackmail or threat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43440585 Leave peacefully with you, your family and your legacy intact or suffer the consequences and the DS still wins. The best option in a lose-lose situation. bullshit. blackmail and threats were always going to part of the job. what retard would would have "drain the swamp" and "lock her up" slogans and think they would not be threatened or blackmailed? well they seemed to work on the Governor of Georgia. the Daughter’s boyfriend appeared to be killed. That would scare anyone with children |
ifSHTF
(OP) User ID: 72534682 United States 01/20/2021 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? ... Quoting: ifSHTF You're confused. I'm not into hopium. I'm a realist, but I think it is a legit question to ask because it isn't logical. Why go through all the extra work when you're just grinding out the final hours? If I found out the world was ending, the last thing I would be doing is making sure I'm paying my utility bills... I mean I guess it could all be some elaborate disinfo ploy, but that's pretty far-fetched and stupid. I still apply the "simplest solution is usually the correct solution". Then why does the simplest answer elude you? Simplest answer: Trump put those people into those positions for the sole purpose of boosting their resume. They are entitled to a lot of benefits now and will receive well paid future employment based solely on this fact alone. If not here then in foreign countries, for their "inside knowledge" of Washington. yeah, that is also speculative. he wasn't padding any resume's for the ppl that were placed into a lame duck role for a week or a day. i am not sure how the long term benefits work for someone who was in a cabinet position for a day, so that could be plausible? however, it also doesn't touch on the last minute flurry of exec orders and released/declass docs. Well, if you are going to use that position in your resume for lobbying or for a place in a think tank or for selling conferences, a day or a week is good enough. LOL Maybe if it were you or I who added it to our resume, but for the people we're talking about, it added (or removed) nothing. Blackmail could be a logical answer, but please remember, Trump has lived a VERY public life and has been in front of the media for decades. If he was worried about Blackmail, he would never have had a public battle with Rosie O'Donnell years ago, or pushed the Obama Birth Certificate issue as long as he did. He also wouldn't have pushed the drain the swamp or lock her up movements. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75209090 United States 01/20/2021 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? I am beginning to think the simplest answer is blackmail or threat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43440585 Leave peacefully with you, your family and your legacy intact or suffer the consequences and the DS still wins. The best option in a lose-lose situation. bullshit. blackmail and threats were always going to part of the job. what retard would would have "drain the swamp" and "lock her up" slogans and think they would not be threatened or blackmailed? Lmao very good point. I forgot about those aggressive slogans that in the end went nowhere. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43440585 United States 01/20/2021 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? I am beginning to think the simplest answer is blackmail or threat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43440585 Leave peacefully with you, your family and your legacy intact or suffer the consequences and the DS still wins. The best option in a lose-lose situation. bullshit. blackmail and threats were always going to part of the job. what retard would would have "drain the swamp" and "lock her up" slogans and think they would not be threatened or blackmailed? well they seemed to work on the Governor of Georgia. the Daughter’s boyfriend appeared to be killed. That would scare anyone with children Does anyone watching this “pandemic” play out on the world stage have any doubts about the power these people have? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75209090 United States 01/20/2021 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? I am beginning to think the simplest answer is blackmail or threat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43440585 Leave peacefully with you, your family and your legacy intact or suffer the consequences and the DS still wins. The best option in a lose-lose situation. bullshit. blackmail and threats were always going to part of the job. what retard would would have "drain the swamp" and "lock her up" slogans and think they would not be threatened or blackmailed? well they seemed to work on the Governor of Georgia. the Daughter’s boyfriend appeared to be killed. That would scare anyone with children Does anyone watching this “pandemic” play out on the world stage have any doubts about the power these people have? They have less power than they have before I believe. Owning the media is the big one. Without that they crumble. Oh and guess what Trump's EO from 2018 just so happened to cover that and they really could get DOJ to seize assets for them fucking with the election. The power was there. Why was that EO put in place if it wasn't going to be used? Expect a new DOJ lineup now. Anything that was being prepared would be tossed. So there is 0 chance anything is going to happen down the road imo. |
ifSHTF
(OP) User ID: 72534682 United States 01/20/2021 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29143373 bullshit. blackmail and threats were always going to part of the job. what retard would would have "drain the swamp" and "lock her up" slogans and think they would not be threatened or blackmailed? well they seemed to work on the Governor of Georgia. the Daughter’s boyfriend appeared to be killed. That would scare anyone with children Does anyone watching this “pandemic” play out on the world stage have any doubts about the power these people have? They have less power than they have before I believe. Owning the media is the big one. Without that they crumble. Oh and guess what Trump's EO from 2018 just so happened to cover that and they really could get DOJ to seize assets for them fucking with the election. The power was there. Why was that EO put in place if it wasn't going to be used? Expect a new DOJ lineup now. Anything that was being prepared would be tossed. So there is 0 chance anything is going to happen down the road imo. That's just it. I would expect a bunch of new appointments to overturn any ability to take action on any of the EO's especially the last minute EO's. |
ifSHTF
(OP) User ID: 72534682 United States 01/20/2021 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: what was the point of all the last minute cabinet and position changes in the trump admin if he was just going to quietly fade away? I am beginning to think the simplest answer is blackmail or threat. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43440585 Leave peacefully with you, your family and your legacy intact or suffer the consequences and the DS still wins. The best option in a lose-lose situation. bullshit. blackmail and threats were always going to part of the job. what retard would would have "drain the swamp" and "lock her up" slogans and think they would not be threatened or blackmailed? Lmao very good point. I forgot about those aggressive slogans that in the end went nowhere. Then there is also this. He made a lot of claims for draining the swamp, locking her up, etc that never really went anywhere. It has me doing circles because for all of his talk, he had 4 years to drain the swamp and given how the election went, it still feels fairly "swampy". |
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