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Secession... That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and

 
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Go right ahead and secede. Red states take more money than they give to the country so it'll save us a ton. You won't be able to feed yourselves. 45 percent of farm income comes from the government. That'll be gone too. You will have no tax base.
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Just let them keep telling you violence is never the answer.
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Secession is the only way we avoid civil war at this point, not that secession can't also trigger one, but the only hope for a peaceful solution now is secession.
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secession or not, there's going to be civil war because the left is now feeling ten ft tall and bullet proof and they absolutely will not stop. They now have all 3 branches and they wont miss this opportunity to ram their agenda through. They understand that if they don't do it now, they may not get another chance. The moderate dems will have to go along or they will get eaten alive by the whackjobs in their party. They are between a rock and a hard place.

And the leftists will never give up their meal ticket and allow secession. Therefore, war it is.

Unstoppable force, meet immovable object.
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I mean i more or less agree, dem areas literally survive like a vampire off of red area resources and labor, so losing access to that would crash most blue states within a week, that said i still see it as the only chance for a peaceful solution, how little chance there is.
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Like conservatives are gonna do shit about. At least the left follows through. You on the right are why we are in this mess. You sit on your hands apologetically while your countries morals values history and beliefs are stripped away in front of you. Relying only on a savior figure like trump, q, god, jesus to save you so your cowardly asses wont have to sacrifice or get your hands dirty. Your asses are so meek and weakened that even your children have become slaves to the system. Destroying even further your culture. Yet you continue to blame everyone rather than standing up for yourselves. You brought this shit on yourselves, you country, and children after many generations of letting others do your work. Cowards, u deserve not thos great nation.
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Just trust the plan. Q will save us.
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I want secession and separation NOW. Either we separate or we go to war. Those are the only two choices.
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Like conservatives are gonna do shit about. At least the left follows through. You on the right are why we are in this mess. You sit on your hands apologetically while your countries morals values history and beliefs are stripped away in front of you. Relying only on a savior figure like trump, q, god, jesus to save you so your cowardly asses wont have to sacrifice or get your hands dirty. Your asses are so meek and weakened that even your children have become slaves to the system. Destroying even further your culture. Yet you continue to blame everyone rather than standing up for yourselves. You brought this shit on yourselves, you country, and children after many generations of letting others do your work. Cowards, u deserve not thos great nation.
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Good try with that 1 only problem is we've been hearing it so long we know who you are
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The correct answer is PEACEFUL NON-COMPLIANCE.

Anything else is a waste of time and energy.
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I can't see any evidence of a government still left.

Elections - gone

The Vote - gone

Attorney Generals - gone

Courts - gone

Congress - gone

Presidency - gone
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Agree. So much has been exposed since the election.
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Just let them keep telling you violence is never the answer.
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When is violence THE answer?

There is a correct answer. Do you know it?
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Secession is the only way we avoid civil war at this point, not that secession can't also trigger one, but the only hope for a peaceful solution now is secession.
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secession or not, there's going to be civil war because the left is now feeling ten ft tall and bullet proof and they absolutely will not stop. They now have all 3 branches and they wont miss this opportunity to ram their agenda through. They understand that if they don't do it now, they may not get another chance. The moderate dems will have to go along or they will get eaten alive by the whackjobs in their party. They are between a rock and a hard place.

And the leftists will never give up their meal ticket and allow secession. Therefore, war it is.

Unstoppable force, meet immovable object.
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I mean i more or less agree, dem areas literally survive like a vampire off of red area resources and labor, so losing access to that would crash most blue states within a week, that said i still see it as the only chance for a peaceful solution, how little chance there is.
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I want peace as well. Problem is, you can't have peace with those who seek to rule you without your consent. They don't want peace. They want your submission. Assuming we peacefully secede, the left will never leave us alone. They can't afford to lose us. They are nothing but users and takers. Without producers, their socialist system will devour itself and then they'll come after us like addicts looking for their next fix.

It won't be long before they are trying to force us back into the fold, or subvert us from within.

It's going to come down to one side having to eliminate the other.
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I want secession and separation NOW. Either we separate or we go to war. Those are the only two choices.
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Whenever someone says that there are only 2 choices, neither of which are reasonable, I just have to ask:

Are you crazy?

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The correct answer is PEACEFUL NON-COMPLIANCE.

Anything else is a waste of time and energy.
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Boy you people just dont get it.
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Good luck with that
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The correct answer is PEACEFUL NON-COMPLIANCE.

Anything else is a waste of time and energy.
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Boy you people just dont get it.
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Now that you explained nothing, I get that you don't understand the wisdom of PEACEFUL NON-COMPLIANCE.
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Just let them keep telling you violence is never the answer.
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When is violence THE answer?

There is a correct answer. Do you know it?
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It's called the Convention of States. If 34 of then sign on then there has to be a Constitutional Convention called. The Feds are supposed to answer to the States not the other way around. California, New York and such do not run the US! Quit letting them!
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The correct answer is PEACEFUL NON-COMPLIANCE.

Anything else is a waste of time and energy.
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Boy you people just dont get it.
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Now that you explained nothing, I get that you don't understand the wisdom of PEACEFUL NON-COMPLIANCE.
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They dont give a shit about peace. They don't want peace with you so your peaceful non compliance is a joke to them. But go ahead and get out and peacefully protest and be 'non compliant', whatever the hell that means, and see how far it gets you.

The right has been peacefully protesting for years and they still lost the country.
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Don’t start with that, xiden won’t last for ever. Wait until the taxes start raising and you’ll see antifa rats voting for Trump in 4 years.
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Dissolve to Union NOW, so we can shut down our state borders to protect our states from the hordes of criminal illegals.

It must be done immediately!

No time to wait!

SHUT IT DOWN!

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It's a tarp !
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Re: Secession... That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves." --William Pitt
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I can't see any evidence of a government still left.

Elections - gone

The Vote - gone

Attorney Generals - gone

Courts - gone

Congress - gone

Presidency - gone
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The real pertinent question becomes...

Will you OBEY an illegitimate "government" full of corrupt, sold out, hucksters, racketeers, perverts, and traitors?

If you obey illegal unconstitutional "laws", then you become PART of the Beast.
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Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) : Nation Can Only Heal Once ‘Oppressed’ Southern States Are ‘Liberated’

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We all know what that means.
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Uh, I don't. What they hell does that mean?
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Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D., N.Y.) : Nation Can Only Heal Once ‘Oppressed’ Southern States Are ‘Liberated’

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We all know what that means.
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Uh, I don't. What they hell does that mean?
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It means Civil War
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The correct answer is PEACEFUL NON-COMPLIANCE.

Anything else is a waste of time and energy.
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Boy you people just dont get it.
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Now that you explained nothing, I get that you don't understand the wisdom of PEACEFUL NON-COMPLIANCE.
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They dont give a shit about peace. They don't want peace with you so your peaceful non compliance is a joke to them. But go ahead and get out and peacefully protest and be 'non compliant', whatever the hell that means, and see how far it gets you.

The right has been peacefully protesting for years and they still lost the country.
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Tyrants always COUNT on "peaceful non-compliance". That's when they send in their not-so-peaceful goons to kidnap you, kill you, and rape your wife and kids.

You keep hearing the constant mantra from the media, and from your rulers...

"Violence is NEVER the answer."

Did the Founding Fathers believe that? They believed that sometimes, violence turns out to be the ONLY answer.

Tyrants LOVE non-violent people.

Violence in defense of self and future is the number one instinct of every creature on earth.

I'm an old fart who couldn't be violent if I wanted to.

Just sayin...
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jiffy joe with 17 executive orders in less than 2 hours.
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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed.

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
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To the fraudulent government, not what you have there ^^^
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Texas is ahead of the game, what did they know?
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Texas has always had a portion wanting to secede. I supported it when I lived there. Now I contacted the guy heading it up to see if we can get a block of States.
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Yes, and I would bet that perhaps as many as 28 states would join a break away Republic that would apply the ORIGINAL
ideals and Constitution that the Founding Fathers provided us. We can recreate the miracle that WAS the old USA, without the communists and others related and their perverted values.
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Just let them keep telling you violence is never the answer.
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When is violence THE answer?

There is a correct answer. Do you know it?
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It's called the Convention of States. If 34 of then sign on then there has to be a Constitutional Convention called. The Feds are supposed to answer to the States not the other way around. California, New York and such do not run the US! Quit letting them!
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I would not go for a convention of states, not with the idiots and corrupt in office
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I can't see any evidence of a government still left.

Elections - gone

The Vote - gone

Attorney Generals - gone

Courts - gone

Congress - gone

Presidency - gone
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Might as well send in Chills and/or Slapped Ham into our Capital. They might be able to find the Ghosts of America's operational past.
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