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Hologram glitch - Obama disappears while talking at Capitol

 
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Try to freeze fame. It is a completely different background with what looks like a narrow door.
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That's not a door, that's his head stretched all the way down to the bottom of the screen. Something went wrong with the video and the pixels from the top of his head get repeated all the way down to the bottom of the image.
 Quoting: Astromut


There is a lot more to it than that. Can you explain to us why you think what is behind him is visible when he disappears. The head does look like its dragged down the screen. but, we see way more each side of that head that should have been visible due to him being in the way of it.
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Video Compression Artifacts, probably h265
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a video compression artifact can not reveal what is behind something.
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Three monkey goons trying to get the illusion
back on track.

Evil evil evil.... time to kick it out.
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BUt why were they standing so far apart?? They were not there together.peace
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This is actually a shadow correction place holder layer strategy on Adobe premier. You do these sorts of things for green screens. Everybody has a different way of doing it but in this case they dragged the skin tones of his forehead and stretched it down. When applying Obama over it you can set opacity to around 96-98% allowing Obama to match the same shadows and highlights as the green screen scene.

I have worked on several animation movies and motion pictures and have seen almost this exact thing done. Everyone has a different way of doing it but I can assure you that’s what’s going on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77019293


You certainly didn't work in professional video editing. You would know that the video only has decompression failure, extremely common in streaming.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


it is not a decompression failure.

a codec can not recreate what is behind something in a video.

you shills need to fuck off with your bullshit.
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Anyone have the pixelated video not on Clouthub?
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Video Compression Artifacts, probably h265
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


a video compression artifact can not reveal what is behind something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73255987


It was more like a horizontal line being repeated downwards, so yes, very much a compression artifact.
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You certainly didn't work in professional video editing. You would know that the video only has decompression failure, extremely common in streaming.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


If this was "decompression failure" The whole length of that section where Obama faded would have gone with it.

You can clearly see that above his head remained in place.
You can also see a dark layer in place of Obama when he fades out.

You obviously never worked with green screen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78831082


what about this one tho

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]

(ive seen the original where this didnt happened, im just wondering what could cause this effect)
 Quoting: T-Man


Notice how only Obama is pixelated and not anything outside of his body such as columns, etc. This is because there is a layering system used during compression that either had a rendering output memory error or rendering error through connection- that only affected THAT LAYER. This was definitely a green screen
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Thread: Stuff you missed while distracted: Guest disappeared on the air during Tucker interview- Biden announces the world is shifting off its axis!

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Anyone have the pixelated video not on Clouthub?
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This is actually a shadow correction place holder layer strategy on Adobe premier. You do these sorts of things for green screens. Everybody has a different way of doing it but in this case they dragged the skin tones of his forehead and stretched it down. When applying Obama over it you can set opacity to around 96-98% allowing Obama to match the same shadows and highlights as the green screen scene.

I have worked on several animation movies and motion pictures and have seen almost this exact thing done. Everyone has a different way of doing it but I can assure you that’s what’s going on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77019293


You certainly didn't work in professional video editing. You would know that the video only has decompression failure, extremely common in streaming.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


If this was "decompression failure" The whole length of that section where Obama faded would have gone with it.

You can clearly see that above his head remained in place.
You can also see a dark layer in place of Obama when he fades out.

You obviously never worked with green screen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78831082


what about this one tho

https://imgur.com/o9N3VHN


(ive seen the original where this didnt happened, im just wondering what could cause this effect)
 Quoting: T-Man

The stretched frame was probably an i-frame, the subsequent frames slowly filled him back in with b-frames and p-frames.
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GWB and Bill Clinton also in video. Obama disappears at the 1:00 mark. Starting to believe this Biden inauguration was indeed fake. Charlie Ward said he saw the inauguration three hours early at 9am ET in Spain.

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Nothing strange. I’m a professional video engineer. This is 100% normal. The screen glitched. Everything from the top of O’s head, including the background on either side, gets pulled down. It makes it look like he’s a giant dick, which some can argue, he is. ;)

Nothing to see here girl that’s freaking out. Move along.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75065643


no lies.

a glitch can not recreate something that was behind obama.


that's like thinking you can remove some part of a photograph but cutting out and expecting what was behind that part of the photo to magically appear in front of you.

it's just dumb.
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You certainly didn't work in professional video editing. You would know that the video only has decompression failure, extremely common in streaming.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


If this was "decompression failure" The whole length of that section where Obama faded would have gone with it.

You can clearly see that above his head remained in place.
You can also see a dark layer in place of Obama when he fades out.

You obviously never worked with green screen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78831082


what about this one tho

https://imgur.com/o9N3VHN


(ive seen the original where this didnt happened, im just wondering what could cause this effect)
 Quoting: T-Man

The stretched frame was probably an i-frame, the subsequent frames slowly filled him back in with b-frames and p-frames.
 Quoting: Astromut


hf Thank you
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Re: Hologram glitch - Obama disappears while talking at Capitol
This is actually a shadow correction place holder layer strategy on Adobe premier. You do these sorts of things for green screens. Everybody has a different way of doing it but in this case they dragged the skin tones of his forehead and stretched it down. When applying Obama over it you can set opacity to around 96-98% allowing Obama to match the same shadows and highlights as the green screen scene.

I have worked on several animation movies and motion pictures and have seen almost this exact thing done. Everyone has a different way of doing it but I can assure you that’s what’s going on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77019293


You certainly didn't work in professional video editing. You would know that the video only has decompression failure, extremely common in streaming.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


it is not a decompression failure.

a codec can not recreate what is behind something in a video.

you shills need to fuck off with your bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73255987

It didn't. You cannot see what is behind him. You can see a row of the image from the top of his head repeated down to the bottom of the frame. That's what happens when he disappears.
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One thing I noticed was the flag behind Obama. If he truly disappeared (green-screened), you would see the flag, but it's cut off exactly where he was. IF you saw the flag, I would agree with this thread, the fact you didn't, leads me towards a video glitch is all. Nothing more, nothing less.
 Quoting: ClawIII


listen mate, i know you have some kind of intelligence.. but

A VIDEO GLITCH CAN NOT REMOVE A PERSON FROM A VIDEO AND SHOW US WHAT WAS BEHIND HIM.
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You certainly didn't work in professional video editing. You would know that the video only has decompression failure, extremely common in streaming.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


If this was "decompression failure" The whole length of that section where Obama faded would have gone with it.

You can clearly see that above his head remained in place.
You can also see a dark layer in place of Obama when he fades out.

You obviously never worked with green screen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78831082


what about this one tho

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]

(ive seen the original where this didnt happened, im just wondering what could cause this effect)
 Quoting: T-Man

The stretched frame was probably an i-frame, the subsequent frames slowly filled him back in with b-frames and p-frames.
 Quoting: Astromut


you know that is utter nonsense.

the areas in green boxes in this image should not be visible and there is no way a glitch can recreate what should be behind him.

[imgur] [link to imgur.com (secure)]
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Re: Hologram glitch - Obama disappears while talking at Capitol
Try to freeze fame. It is a completely different background with what looks like a narrow door.
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That's not a door, that's his head stretched all the way down to the bottom of the screen. Something went wrong with the video and the pixels from the top of his head get repeated all the way down to the bottom of the image.
 Quoting: Astromut


There is a lot more to it than that. Can you explain to us why you think what is behind him is visible when he disappears. The head does look like its dragged down the screen. but, we see way more each side of that head that should have been visible due to him being in the way of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73255987


In Adobe premiere, you can set the background layer (his stretched forehead tone/ shadow gradient layer) to match the outlines of the moving layer above (Obama body layer). During a compression failure, if the main source or above “Obama body layer” has an error, it will affect the layer behind it that was supposed to match his outlines and cut off anything behind his outlines. That’s why you’re seeing the cylinder (bottom layer) showing past his neck and ear areas on that frame.
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Obama disappeared for 4 years as president
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If this was "decompression failure" The whole length of that section where Obama faded would have gone with it.

You can clearly see that above his head remained in place.
You can also see a dark layer in place of Obama when he fades out.

You obviously never worked with green screen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78831082


what about this one tho

https://imgur.com/o9N3VHN


(ive seen the original where this didnt happened, im just wondering what could cause this effect)
 Quoting: T-Man

The stretched frame was probably an i-frame, the subsequent frames slowly filled him back in with b-frames and p-frames.
 Quoting: Astromut


you know that is utter nonsense.

the areas in green boxes in this image should not be visible and there is no way a glitch can recreate what should be behind him.

https://imgur.com/6aJxWmU

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73255987


Oh, so the trees on the right became straight vertical fucking lines all of the sudden? Is that what you think should happen if you can "see what's behind him?" Look at the first image and then the images with the green boxes, look at the tree branches on the right side, they turned into vertical lines because the image is stretched, you can't see what's behind him, you're just seeing the row from the top of his head stretched. You know this and you're lying. See, how's it feel? How's it feel to be called out on your bullshit?
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Poor guy, looks as if Michelle has been beating up on him again.
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The election was fraudulent. The Corporation is a fraud. So not a surprise that they made a movie of the Inauguration either. Sure looked like the Hunger Games.
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I’m just happy to see ol Bill back out there

And whatever acne treatments they had him on definitely worked

His face has cleared up magnificently from last year


Get some Bill, get some
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Most people still think that holograms and representation technology does not exist. These same fools watch Hollywood movies without a moment of criticism in their minds like they are watching real life pass them on the street.
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The Irony of him being there with a hotdog is not lost on me lol Xx

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BLUE SKIES!!! NOT SHOT ON THE 20TH!! GRAY AND LIGHT RAIN AT NOON!!!
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One thing I noticed was the flag behind Obama. If he truly disappeared (green-screened), you would see the flag, but it's cut off exactly where he was. IF you saw the flag, I would agree with this thread, the fact you didn't, leads me towards a video glitch is all. Nothing more, nothing less.
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The flag waived up and around the top of his head. no?
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Really.. Charlie Ward is STILL fooling you morons? Where's evidence anywhere else, that the inauguration aired 7 hours earlier?

All that fat fuckin slob does is lie, same with Simon Parkes, literally makes loads of shit up on the spot, doesn't give a shit when called out.

You guys are dumber than dog shit.
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The election was fraudulent. The Corporation is a fraud. So not a surprise that they made a movie of the Inauguration either. Sure looked like the Hunger Games.
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Your Fantasies are why 6/1 happened and why Trump is done. Trump used you and helped fill your heads with disinformation. He didn't see that in the end he shot himself in the foot. You'll beleive anything without question if it fits how you see the world. Some of you will need mental heath care when the bubble bursts and realization sets in.

You'll dismiss this and call me names i bet...but that part of your problem and not a solution to anything.
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This is actually a shadow correction place holder layer strategy on Adobe premier. You do these sorts of things for green screens. Everybody has a different way of doing it but in this case they dragged the skin tones of his forehead and stretched it down. When applying Obama over it you can set opacity to around 96-98% allowing Obama to match the same shadows and highlights as the green screen scene.

I have worked on several animation movies and motion pictures and have seen almost this exact thing done. Everyone has a different way of doing it but I can assure you that’s what’s going on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77019293


You certainly didn't work in professional video editing. You would know that the video only has decompression failure, extremely common in streaming.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


I have worked for over ten years with Fox and Sony motion pictures buddy. Decompression failure happens in two occasions:

1. Pixelation on moving artifacts
2. Pixelation on an entire scene UNLESS there is a layering system that didn’t decompress during rendering output or connection - which happens to be the case.

Everyone who has ever worked on green screen motion pictures knows that with layering the composition allowing a gradient through the center of the object and the outer areas lightly more transparent gives the object a matching highlight and shadow to the scene. If you want to challenge me on this go ahead but don’t tell me about credentials my guy because I’ve done my share of work
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77019293


https://imgur.com/a/LR1P68Z


H264 encoding of current frame macroblocks

The video only has a decompression error in the macroblocks, perhaps also an error in the decompression of the motion compensator. That's what keyframes are for, to reset these bugs.

But you are right, I never worked with greenscreen, I design algorithms, I implement codecs.
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Enough bullshit, end the control system now.
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if you were expecting possible attacks wouldn't you record it previously?
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Re: Hologram glitch - Obama disappears while talking at Capitol
This is actually a shadow correction place holder layer strategy on Adobe premier. You do these sorts of things for green screens. Everybody has a different way of doing it but in this case they dragged the skin tones of his forehead and stretched it down. When applying Obama over it you can set opacity to around 96-98% allowing Obama to match the same shadows and highlights as the green screen scene.

I have worked on several animation movies and motion pictures and have seen almost this exact thing done. Everyone has a different way of doing it but I can assure you that’s what’s going on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77019293


You certainly didn't work in professional video editing. You would know that the video only has decompression failure, extremely common in streaming.
 Quoting: Mr.Borg


If this was "decompression failure" The whole length of that section where Obama faded would have gone with it.

You can clearly see that above his head remained in place.
You can also see a dark layer in place of Obama when he fades out.

You obviously never worked with green screen...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78831082


You’re completely, 100% wrong. Look where it starts on his head. Then look at the background along side of his head. It’s all “pulled down.” It’s a streaming issue. You obviously never work with green screen too much.





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