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TAIWAN:8 Chinese Bombers,4 Fighters Breached the Air Defence ID Zone Saturday/ UPDATE:US-CHINA Response+US CARRIER GROUP ENTERS CHINA SEA P2

 
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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Nope Taiwan belong to Taiwanese’s immigrated piece of chit!
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Its called Republic of CHINA not Taiwan you idiot
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USA till this day still hasn't internationally recognized Taiwan as an independent state, country of China

so there's that for the ignorant
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WW3 IN THE MAKING AND BREWING China Authorises Coast Guard to Fire on Foreign Vessels as US Sends Carrier Strike Group to Region

On Sunday, a US carrier strike group led by the USS Theodore Roosevelt entered the South China Sea for “routine operations.” Earlier, Japan issued a rebuke of China’s claims in the strategic body of water. The Pentagon reciprocated by promising to protect the Senkakus – the East China Sea islands controlled by Tokyo but also claimed by Beijing.

The National People’s Congress Standing Committee – China’s top legislative body, has given the Coast Guard the authority to use “any means necessary,” including firing on foreign ships, to protect areas where China claims jurisdiction, the South China Morning Post has reported, citing the text of the document.

The legislation, passed Friday, also reportedly allows Coast Guard forces to launch pre-emptive attacks on foreign ships without prior warning if commanders deem such a step to be necessary, and includes a provision under which Coast Guard personnel can board and inspect foreign vessels. It also allows Coast Guard forces to destroy structures belonging to other countries built in areas claimed by China.
Chinese Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Hua Chunying said that the law is in line with international practices, adding that Beijing “will remain committed to upholding peace and stability in the sea.”

Beijing claims control of wide swathes of the South China Sea – a strategic maritime area that serves as a key passage for international shipping and is a major source of untapped fishing and hydrocarbon resources. Parts of the body of water are also claimed by Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, the Philippines and Taiwan. The US, which is not a claimant in the dispute, began carrying out "freedom of navigation" missions in the region in the early 2010s, after then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton branded the body of water a "matter of US national interest." Beijing has repeatedly criticised US "meddling" in the region, and demanded that the region’s nations be allowed to sort out the dispute independently.

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US concerned after Chinese warplanes fly over Taiwan airspace Taiwan and the US have warned China after it flew nuclear-capable bombers and fight

China sent 15 military aircraft into Taiwanese airspace between mainland Taiwan and the Taiwan-controlled Pratas Islands in the South China Sea on Sunday, Taiwan's Defense Ministry said.

A total of six J-10 fighters, four J-16s, two SU-30s, a Y-8 reconnaissance aircraft and two Y-8 anti-submarine aircraft, were sent by China, the ministry said in a statement.

It follows China sending eight nuclear-capable bombers and four fighter jets into the same airspace on Saturday.

Taiwan's air force was sent up to respond, the statement said.

"Airborne alert sorties have been tasked, radio warnings issued and air defense missile systems deployed to monitor the activity," said the ministry.

China, which continues to claim Taiwan as its own territory, in recent months has conducted almost daily flights over the waters between the southern part of Taiwan and the Pratas Islands.

However these flights have generally consisted of only one or two reconnaissance aircraft. The presence of so many Chinese combat aircraft on this mission — including an anti-submarine aircraft, eight H-6K bombers, and four J-16 fighter jets — is unusual.

A map provided by Taiwan's Defense Ministry showed that the Chinese aircraft flew over the same waters where the most recent Chinese missions have been taking place, well away from mainland Taiwan.

Response from Washington
News of the incursion brought a swift statement from the US State Department, urging China to stop pressuring Taiwan while reaffirming its commitment to the nation.

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No one better disrespect the Chinese, Biden will fire all of you.
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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Fuck you and CHINA WING WONG Taiwan is Free and not under CCP control eat a dick.
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No one better disrespect the Chinese, Biden will fire all of you.
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Has he fired Ivanka's Chinese companies yet?
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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Nobody below to anyone you stupid f*ckford
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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Nobody below to anyone you stupid f*ckford
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Belongs lol
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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thats not how they see it
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doesnt matter how they see it, the white man has brainwashed those fuckers to believe they belong to the west. Its no different from the British claiming the Falklands is theirs. Fuck off with your imperialistic attitude.

the white man is the true Devil
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What a world you would have us live in? One, where the choices of anyone can be invalidated because of the influence of the “white devil”.

Then let’s look at the evil white imperialism. Did you know that there are only 2 nations in the world that are geographically larger than China? It’s almost as if they collected regions, waxing and waning and waxing again over a couple of millennia to come to the political boundaries they have to day. Almost like they conquered, colonized and forced locals into an empire.

You might say Asians, ruling Asians right? Ask Koreans how they feel about being ruled by the Chinese or Japanese in the past. Or Vietnam, which even shares a lot of the same political ideology.

Look I get tired of these arguments. Yes, the US has been imperialistic. Yes that is wrong. But so has China. So has India. Yes, India is made up of different ethnic and cultural groups to that have to coexist because of past boundaries set by conquerers. Not white people either. Those boundaries were nearly where they are now a long time ago..

Bottom line is, you can only start from now and where local populations want to be. The Taiwanese are some of the most advanced people in the world, in spite of their small size and don’t want China screwing with that they way they have Hong Kong. Either people have a right and ability to make that choice or we might as well go back to the age of conquest.
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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FREE CHINA (Taiwan)=
The (actual) Republic of China and
is an independent nation.

We have a defense treaty with them.

If COMMUNIST CHINA ATTACKS FREE CHINA,

FREE ALL OF CHINA!


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History is interesting...

Democrats always get us into MAJOR World Wars...

Republicans usually get us into Recessions...

Now we have a supposed Democrat President in the White House...

What do you expect???

I expect this...

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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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Not when the leader of China is a commie who has his sights on taking over the world.

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Xi Jin Ping is a sovereignist/nationalist not a world conquering globalist like the One World Order gang from the West. China never waged an aggressive imperial war in it's history.
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Thats because they've been fighting themselves for 1000s of years then the British, Germans, Dutch, Portuguese & Japanese now the Americans...

They have the world economically and will move on to aggressive global expansion when the time suits them.
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No that has nothing to do with it.
The Brits have been fighting themselves too. China has an introverted society, they are inherently not globalist by nature.

Xi, Putin and Trump belong to the sovereignist faction, that is their ideology.
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Not when the leader of China is a commie who has his sights on taking over the world.

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Xi Jin Ping is a sovereignist/nationalist not a world conquering globalist like the One World Order gang from the West. China never waged an aggressive imperial war in it's history.
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Thats because they've been fighting themselves for 1000s of years then the British, Germans, Dutch, Portuguese & Japanese now the Americans...

They have the world economically and will move on to aggressive global expansion when the time suits them.
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No that has nothing to do with it.
The Brits have been fighting themselves too. China has an introverted society, they are inherently not globalist by nature.

Xi, Putin and Trump belong to the sovereignist faction, that is their ideology.
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Globalism and imperialism have little do with each other really. China engaged in imperialism as early as the Han and as late as the PRC conquest of Tibet. National borders in every nation leading up to the modern world are the result of conquest mostly, and treaty only in very specific circumstances. China is multiethnic and multicultural over a geographic area thar far exceeds the heartland of China, and those lands were taken by force. You can change the name to the People’s Republic of China and it won’t change the fact that it was formed through imperialism
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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thats not how they see it
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doesnt matter how they see it, the white man has brainwashed those fuckers to believe they belong to the west. Its no different from the British claiming the Falklands is theirs. Fuck off with your imperialistic attitude.

the white man is the true Devil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79969606


What a world you would have us live in? One, where the choices of anyone can be invalidated because of the influence of the “white devil”.

Then let’s look at the evil white imperialism. Did you know that there are only 2 nations in the world that are geographically larger than China? It’s almost as if they collected regions, waxing and waning and waxing again over a couple of millennia to come to the political boundaries they have to day. Almost like they conquered, colonized and forced locals into an empire.

You might say Asians, ruling Asians right? Ask Koreans how they feel about being ruled by the Chinese or Japanese in the past. Or Vietnam, which even shares a lot of the same political ideology.

Look I get tired of these arguments. Yes, the US has been imperialistic. Yes that is wrong. But so has China. So has India. Yes, India is made up of different ethnic and cultural groups to that have to coexist because of past boundaries set by conquerers. Not white people either. Those boundaries were nearly where they are now a long time ago..

Bottom line is, you can only start from now and where local populations want to be. The Taiwanese are some of the most advanced people in the world, in spite of their small size and don’t want China screwing with that they way they have Hong Kong. Either people have a right and ability to make that choice or we might as well go back to the age of conquest.
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Have you seen the poverty and slumbs in British ruled Hong Kong? They are gone now.
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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Nope Taiwan belong to Taiwanese’s immigrated piece of chit!
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Its called Republic of CHINA not Taiwan you idiot
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USA till this day still hasn't internationally recognized Taiwan as an independent state, country of China

so there's that for the ignorant
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NO, jimmey carter switched recognition from ROC to PRC, at the same time giving the canal to panama while not restoring panama to Columbia.
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thats not how they see it
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doesnt matter how they see it, the white man has brainwashed those fuckers to believe they belong to the west. Its no different from the British claiming the Falklands is theirs. Fuck off with your imperialistic attitude.

the white man is the true Devil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79969606


What a world you would have us live in? One, where the choices of anyone can be invalidated because of the influence of the “white devil”.

Then let’s look at the evil white imperialism. Did you know that there are only 2 nations in the world that are geographically larger than China? It’s almost as if they collected regions, waxing and waning and waxing again over a couple of millennia to come to the political boundaries they have to day. Almost like they conquered, colonized and forced locals into an empire.

You might say Asians, ruling Asians right? Ask Koreans how they feel about being ruled by the Chinese or Japanese in the past. Or Vietnam, which even shares a lot of the same political ideology.

Look I get tired of these arguments. Yes, the US has been imperialistic. Yes that is wrong. But so has China. So has India. Yes, India is made up of different ethnic and cultural groups to that have to coexist because of past boundaries set by conquerers. Not white people either. Those boundaries were nearly where they are now a long time ago..

Bottom line is, you can only start from now and where local populations want to be. The Taiwanese are some of the most advanced people in the world, in spite of their small size and don’t want China screwing with that they way they have Hong Kong. Either people have a right and ability to make that choice or we might as well go back to the age of conquest.
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Have you seen the poverty and slumbs in British ruled Hong Kong? They are gone now.
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And? I guess paternalism which is an extension of imperialism is okay? Don’t worry black slave, your life will be better even though you won’t have any choice in it’s outcome?
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thats not how they see it
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doesnt matter how they see it, the white man has brainwashed those fuckers to believe they belong to the west. Its no different from the British claiming the Falklands is theirs. Fuck off with your imperialistic attitude.

the white man is the true Devil
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What a world you would have us live in? One, where the choices of anyone can be invalidated because of the influence of the “white devil”.

Then let’s look at the evil white imperialism. Did you know that there are only 2 nations in the world that are geographically larger than China? It’s almost as if they collected regions, waxing and waning and waxing again over a couple of millennia to come to the political boundaries they have to day. Almost like they conquered, colonized and forced locals into an empire.

You might say Asians, ruling Asians right? Ask Koreans how they feel about being ruled by the Chinese or Japanese in the past. Or Vietnam, which even shares a lot of the same political ideology.

Look I get tired of these arguments. Yes, the US has been imperialistic. Yes that is wrong. But so has China. So has India. Yes, India is made up of different ethnic and cultural groups to that have to coexist because of past boundaries set by conquerers. Not white people either. Those boundaries were nearly where they are now a long time ago..

Bottom line is, you can only start from now and where local populations want to be. The Taiwanese are some of the most advanced people in the world, in spite of their small size and don’t want China screwing with that they way they have Hong Kong. Either people have a right and ability to make that choice or we might as well go back to the age of conquest.
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Have you seen the poverty and slumbs in British ruled Hong Kong? They are gone now.
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British Hong kong was free, now that it's not no wants to live there.
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doesnt matter how they see it, the white man has brainwashed those fuckers to believe they belong to the west. Its no different from the British claiming the Falklands is theirs. Fuck off with your imperialistic attitude.

the white man is the true Devil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79969606


What a world you would have us live in? One, where the choices of anyone can be invalidated because of the influence of the “white devil”.

Then let’s look at the evil white imperialism. Did you know that there are only 2 nations in the world that are geographically larger than China? It’s almost as if they collected regions, waxing and waning and waxing again over a couple of millennia to come to the political boundaries they have to day. Almost like they conquered, colonized and forced locals into an empire.

You might say Asians, ruling Asians right? Ask Koreans how they feel about being ruled by the Chinese or Japanese in the past. Or Vietnam, which even shares a lot of the same political ideology.

Look I get tired of these arguments. Yes, the US has been imperialistic. Yes that is wrong. But so has China. So has India. Yes, India is made up of different ethnic and cultural groups to that have to coexist because of past boundaries set by conquerers. Not white people either. Those boundaries were nearly where they are now a long time ago..

Bottom line is, you can only start from now and where local populations want to be. The Taiwanese are some of the most advanced people in the world, in spite of their small size and don’t want China screwing with that they way they have Hong Kong. Either people have a right and ability to make that choice or we might as well go back to the age of conquest.
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Have you seen the poverty and slumbs in British ruled Hong Kong? They are gone now.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71909450


And? I guess paternalism which is an extension of imperialism is okay? Don’t worry black slave, your life will be better even though you won’t have any choice in it’s outcome?
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Furthermore, I am taking whose word for Hong Kong’s improvement? China’s? They also still claim that Covid came from somewhere else, even though all scientific evidence indicates that originated in China. And I’m not on of these nutjobs who think it was intentionally released. But it clearly came from there.
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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thats not how they see it
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doesnt matter how they see it, the white man has brainwashed those fuckers to believe they belong to the west. Its no different from the British claiming the Falklands is theirs. Fuck off with your imperialistic attitude.

the white man is the true Devil
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Wite Debils, for the win!

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Xi Jin Ping is a sovereignist/nationalist not a world conquering globalist like the One World Order gang from the West. China never waged an aggressive imperial war in it's history.
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Thats because they've been fighting themselves for 1000s of years then the British, Germans, Dutch, Portuguese & Japanese now the Americans...

They have the world economically and will move on to aggressive global expansion when the time suits them.
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No that has nothing to do with it.
The Brits have been fighting themselves too. China has an introverted society, they are inherently not globalist by nature.

Xi, Putin and Trump belong to the sovereignist faction, that is their ideology.
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Globalism and imperialism have little do with each other really. China engaged in imperialism as early as the Han and as late as the PRC conquest of Tibet. National borders in every nation leading up to the modern world are the result of conquest mostly, and treaty only in very specific circumstances. China is multiethnic and multicultural over a geographic area thar far exceeds the heartland of China, and those lands were taken by force. You can change the name to the People’s Republic of China and it won’t change the fact that it was formed through imperialism
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That is the same thing saying as England is an imperialist country because of the English lands it conquered in the British Isles (within their own cultural sphere).

No, that is not it, Britain was an imperialist country because it conquered lands beyond their cultural sphere in Africa, Asia.

Globalism is imperialism 2.0 or neo-imperialism. The USA is using their naval force to protect their trade routes or sabotage trade routes of a rising competing economical power. And this has nothing to do with communism, heck even if China was a liberal democracy we would still see tensions.
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Taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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that's up to Taiwanese people!

English/french/Spain/Portugal will have all the Americas back the they belong to us...
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doesnt matter how they see it, the white man has brainwashed those fuckers to believe they belong to the west. Its no different from the British claiming the Falklands is theirs. Fuck off with your imperialistic attitude.

the white man is the true Devil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79969606


What a world you would have us live in? One, where the choices of anyone can be invalidated because of the influence of the “white devil”.

Then let’s look at the evil white imperialism. Did you know that there are only 2 nations in the world that are geographically larger than China? It’s almost as if they collected regions, waxing and waning and waxing again over a couple of millennia to come to the political boundaries they have to day. Almost like they conquered, colonized and forced locals into an empire.

You might say Asians, ruling Asians right? Ask Koreans how they feel about being ruled by the Chinese or Japanese in the past. Or Vietnam, which even shares a lot of the same political ideology.

Look I get tired of these arguments. Yes, the US has been imperialistic. Yes that is wrong. But so has China. So has India. Yes, India is made up of different ethnic and cultural groups to that have to coexist because of past boundaries set by conquerers. Not white people either. Those boundaries were nearly where they are now a long time ago..

Bottom line is, you can only start from now and where local populations want to be. The Taiwanese are some of the most advanced people in the world, in spite of their small size and don’t want China screwing with that they way they have Hong Kong. Either people have a right and ability to make that choice or we might as well go back to the age of conquest.
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Have you seen the poverty and slumbs in British ruled Hong Kong? They are gone now.
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British Hong kong was free, now that it's not no wants to live there.
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I am not defending communism. Hong Kong had a great culture during British rule, but these tensions today have nothing to do with communism and everything to do with a competing rising economic power and a declining globalized west.
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Going to War with China.
Way'da go guys.

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Nice for you anti-Soros fans to know is that Soros' Open Society has been involved with the riots in Hong Kong.
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Love me a good wumao fest on a sunday
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Have you seen the poverty and slumbs in British ruled Hong Kong? They are gone now.
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Compared to Fuzhou?

I don't think so.

Hong Kong is a 100% better place to be as a young person looking for a future.

If China adopted Hong Kong's (former) style of government, not to mention it's style of not slaughtering its own citizens, China would be fully prosperous, too.

ALL of China could have been as well off as Shenzhen or HK or Taiwan or Macau by now.

But the CCP is a broken, corrupt system, favoring only certain cities and regions and ignoring others.
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Thats because they've been fighting themselves for 1000s of years then the British, Germans, Dutch, Portuguese & Japanese now the Americans...

They have the world economically and will move on to aggressive global expansion when the time suits them.
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No that has nothing to do with it.
The Brits have been fighting themselves too. China has an introverted society, they are inherently not globalist by nature.

Xi, Putin and Trump belong to the sovereignist faction, that is their ideology.
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Globalism and imperialism have little do with each other really. China engaged in imperialism as early as the Han and as late as the PRC conquest of Tibet. National borders in every nation leading up to the modern world are the result of conquest mostly, and treaty only in very specific circumstances. China is multiethnic and multicultural over a geographic area thar far exceeds the heartland of China, and those lands were taken by force. You can change the name to the People’s Republic of China and it won’t change the fact that it was formed through imperialism
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That is the same thing saying as England is an imperialist country because of the English lands it conquered in the British Isles (within their own cultural sphere).

No, that is not it, Britain was an imperialist country because it conquered lands beyond their cultural sphere in Africa, Asia.

Globalism is imperialism 2.0 or neo-imperialism. The USA is using their naval force to protect their trade routes or sabotage trade routes of a rising competing economical power. And this has nothing to do with communism, heck even if China was a liberal democracy we would still see tensions.
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“Sphere of influence” is another abstract human construct that has little to do with morality or political self-determination. Without the original use of force, Scotland and Ireland would be separate from the UK. Those modern societies have voted on multiple occasions (at least, in Ulster) to be a part of the UK. But there are still very large groups in those regions who wish to be separate. The ROC is on the other end of the spectrum.

I’m not arguing about globalism. I’m arguing that in absence of the force required to take political control, either from a change in morality or ability, the local population is the only group suited to choose it’s political organization.

If China were to forcibly reacquire Taiwan, it would be conquest and therefore imperialism. Regardless of whether or not China has machinations to control the whole world through globalization. And let’s not pretend like China doesn’t manipulate nations worldwide for their own influence either. They’ve been involved in politics in the Middle East, SA, Africa and elsewhere for several decades.
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Does anyone know where the US carrier group is now?

I do see a bunch of "undefined" ships southeast of Taiwan (and NE of the P.I.)

[link to www.marinetraffic.com (secure)]
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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Damn, stupid white liberal focuses on his and other people's race instead of his libtardism.
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taiwan belongs to China, u stupid white fucks
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Damn, stupid white liberal focuses on his and other people's race instead of his libtardism.
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no "stupid white liberal" would say "taiwan belongs to China, us stupid white fucks" lol.

Do you know who are the ONLY people in the world to attend pro-Tibet and pro-Taiwan marches on US campuses? Liberals.





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