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The earth is actually flat!

 
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Yes, you have all been deceived your entire lives by the Jesuits and the Freemasons into believing that we live on a ball that flies around the sun. Nothing could be farther from the truth. We live on a flat, stationary earth with a sun that circles overhead.

You want proof? Easy. We can see too far. Lighthouses can be seen in excess of 75 miles, and mountains can be seen over 275 miles away. In both these instances, the objects should be obscured by hundreds if not thousands of feet of curvature. See Eric Dubay and his International Flat Earth Research Society for hundreds of more proofs.

You might be wondering, why have we been lied to? The answer to that question is long and multifarious, but in general has to do with inducing nihilism and stupidity into a slave population...but we are not slaves!, you protest...and that is questionable but so long as you continue to believe in globe earth and heliocentrism, you are slave to their machinations.

HH

p.s.-This is a repost. The first posting was deleted.
 Quoting: HH 77892462


We know that Earth is perfectly stationary, and has never moved a millimeter in all of recorded time.

As proved by the MM and MG experiments. Also, "Airey's Failure" and the Sagnac experiment.

As to flat?

The evidence of visible objects that far exceed the expected distance (re eight inches per mile squared of curvature, derived from Pythagorean geometry) tends to indicate that the "ball" with a diameter of almost 8 thousand miles, is not the place we live on (or in.)

drevil
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Congratulations on managing to be wrong about every single thing you just said.

First let's start with the 8 inches per mile squared... For one thing that's a formula for a parabola not a circle so that's obviously:

1: an approximation only meant for short distances.

2. Definitely not a formula for figuring out what you should be able to see or not see from a given distance. There are formulas for that, but this isn't one of them.

3. You can tell it's not a formula for anything visual because it's missing a whole fuck ton of variables any one of which not being factored in could create a situation where it gives you the wrong answer.

Next let's move on to the experiments you reference. The two michelson experiments are about the aether not the earth rotating or moving, kinda the same with sorry and sagnac.

Conclusion: You list 5 experiments and one "curvature formula" all of which you are attempting to apply to things that they are, to put it gently, not in any way fit for purpose much less actually what you say they are.

It is no wonder you have come up with such an asinine conclusion when you have attempted to use the wrong tools.

I would highly suggest that you read the actual experiment papers yourself and not someone else's interpretation of them as a first step towards understanding why everything you just said is meaningless and laughable.

I would next look into just what the origins of the 8 inches per mile squared formula are and what it's actual intended application was. (Because that formula is not what you think it is. It did at one point have a legitimate use, but that use was NEVER about determining sight lines.)

From there, I would actually look into how exactly you really would go about determining what you should and shouldn't see if earth were a sphere and the requisite math behind doing so, taking special note of all the different variables 8in x miles squared does not take into account..

If and or when you actually do this and come back to this posting, we can talk about what you've learned and how it may or may not have changed your opinions on your initial thesis (spoiler alert: if you actually look into the things I've suggested, IT WILL CHANGE YOUR OPINION)

BUT

Unless and until you do the things I've suggested I won't be bothering to respond to any of your replies for the simple fact that as the saying goes....

You're so off base you're not even wrong.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


clown. MM was about aether but accidentally proved earth isn't moving. you're just another indoctrinated fool
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77786602


At absolute best michaelson morley proved that the aether wasn't moving, not that the earth wasn't moving.

You'd have had to set up the experiment entirely differently to prove that the earth wasn't moving.

Also, sagnac definitely proved earth was moving so you're shit out of luck there too.
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Re: The earth is actually flat!
Yes, you have all been deceived your entire lives by the Jesuits and the Freemasons into believing that we live on a ball that flies around the sun. Nothing could be farther from the truth. We live on a flat, stationary earth with a sun that circles overhead.

You want proof? Easy. We can see too far. Lighthouses can be seen in excess of 75 miles, and mountains can be seen over 275 miles away. In both these instances, the objects should be obscured by hundreds if not thousands of feet of curvature. See Eric Dubay and his International Flat Earth Research Society for hundreds of more proofs.

You might be wondering, why have we been lied to? The answer to that question is long and multifarious, but in general has to do with inducing nihilism and stupidity into a slave population...but we are not slaves!, you protest...and that is questionable but so long as you continue to believe in globe earth and heliocentrism, you are slave to their machinations.

HH

p.s.-This is a repost. The first posting was deleted.
 Quoting: HH 77892462


How is the sun suspended?

dasbier
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The sun is a plasma orb that naturally circles above the earth in accordance with electromagnetic fluctuations of earth. Since it is plasma, it is not suspended but naturally inheres in its current position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


What causes these magnetic fluctuations?

dasbier
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Good question!
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We know that Earth is perfectly stationary, and has never moved a millimeter in all of recorded time.

As proved by the MM and MG experiments. Also, "Airey's Failure" and the Sagnac experiment.

As to flat?

The evidence of visible objects that far exceed the expected distance (re eight inches per mile squared of curvature, derived from Pythagorean geometry) tends to indicate that the "ball" with a diameter of almost 8 thousand miles, is not the place we live on (or in.)

drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79526723


Congratulations on managing to be wrong about every single thing you just said.

First let's start with the 8 inches per mile squared... For one thing that's a formula for a parabola not a circle so that's obviously:

1: an approximation only meant for short distances.

2. Definitely not a formula for figuring out what you should be able to see or not see from a given distance. There are formulas for that, but this isn't one of them.

3. You can tell it's not a formula for anything visual because it's missing a whole fuck ton of variables any one of which not being factored in could create a situation where it gives you the wrong answer.

Next let's move on to the experiments you reference. The two michelson experiments are about the aether not the earth rotating or moving, kinda the same with sorry and sagnac.

Conclusion: You list 5 experiments and one "curvature formula" all of which you are attempting to apply to things that they are, to put it gently, not in any way fit for purpose much less actually what you say they are.

It is no wonder you have come up with such an asinine conclusion when you have attempted to use the wrong tools.

I would highly suggest that you read the actual experiment papers yourself and not someone else's interpretation of them as a first step towards understanding why everything you just said is meaningless and laughable.

I would next look into just what the origins of the 8 inches per mile squared formula are and what it's actual intended application was. (Because that formula is not what you think it is. It did at one point have a legitimate use, but that use was NEVER about determining sight lines.)

From there, I would actually look into how exactly you really would go about determining what you should and shouldn't see if earth were a sphere and the requisite math behind doing so, taking special note of all the different variables 8in x miles squared does not take into account..

If and or when you actually do this and come back to this posting, we can talk about what you've learned and how it may or may not have changed your opinions on your initial thesis (spoiler alert: if you actually look into the things I've suggested, IT WILL CHANGE YOUR OPINION)

BUT

Unless and until you do the things I've suggested I won't be bothering to respond to any of your replies for the simple fact that as the saying goes....

You're so off base you're not even wrong.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


clown. MM was about aether but accidentally proved earth isn't moving. you're just another indoctrinated fool
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77786602


Go read up on that experiment again. You're way off pal.
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P.s. I've built an interferometer, have you?

Oh oh!!!

Bring up gyroscopes next!!!

I want to shit on you about those too!
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How is the sun suspended?

dasbier
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The sun is a plasma orb that naturally circles above the earth in accordance with electromagnetic fluctuations of earth. Since it is plasma, it is not suspended but naturally inheres in its current position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


What causes these magnetic fluctuations?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


Good question!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


Where do meteors come from?

dasbier
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How is the sun suspended?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


The sun is a plasma orb that naturally circles above the earth in accordance with electromagnetic fluctuations of earth. Since it is plasma, it is not suspended but naturally inheres in its current position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


What causes these magnetic fluctuations?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


Good question!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


I know ONE ANSWER to that question, I even hinted at it in one of the questions I asked you.

Specifically, that question was whether this plasma orb is inside or outside your done thinger....

It's an important question.
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Yes, you have all been deceived your entire lives by the Jesuits and the Freemasons into believing that we live on a ball that flies around the sun. Nothing could be farther from the truth. We live on a flat, stationary earth with a sun that circles overhead.

You want proof? Easy. We can see too far. Lighthouses can be seen in excess of 75 miles, and mountains can be seen over 275 miles away. In both these instances, the objects should be obscured by hundreds if not thousands of feet of curvature. See Eric Dubay and his International Flat Earth Research Society for hundreds of more proofs.

You might be wondering, why have we been lied to? The answer to that question is long and multifarious, but in general has to do with inducing nihilism and stupidity into a slave population...but we are not slaves!, you protest...and that is questionable but so long as you continue to believe in globe earth and heliocentrism, you are slave to their machinations.

HH

p.s.-This is a repost. The first posting was deleted.
 Quoting: HH 77892462


How is the sun suspended?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


The sun is a plasma orb that naturally circles above the earth in accordance with electromagnetic fluctuations of earth. Since it is plasma, it is not suspended but naturally inheres in its current position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


So is the sun inside the "firmament" or outside?

And explain the mechanism by which it maintains such a consistent path when we know the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent.

Because even right here your entire conceptualization of how this all works... Well, it doesn't work.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


Yes, you have all been deceived your entire lives by the Jesuits and the Freemasons into believing that we live on a ball that flies around the sun. Nothing could be farther from the truth. We live on a flat, stationary earth with a sun that circles overhead.

You want proof? Easy. We can see too far. Lighthouses can be seen in excess of 75 miles, and mountains can be seen over 275 miles away. In both these instances, the objects should be obscured by hundreds if not thousands of feet of curvature. See Eric Dubay and his International Flat Earth Research Society for hundreds of more proofs.

You might be wondering, why have we been lied to? The answer to that question is long and multifarious, but in general has to do with inducing nihilism and stupidity into a slave population...but we are not slaves!, you protest...and that is questionable but so long as you continue to believe in globe earth and heliocentrism, you are slave to their machinations.

HH

p.s.-This is a repost. The first posting was deleted.
 Quoting: HH 77892462


How is the sun suspended?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


The sun is a plasma orb that naturally circles above the earth in accordance with electromagnetic fluctuations of earth. Since it is plasma, it is not suspended but naturally inheres in its current position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


So is the sun inside the "firmament" or outside?

And explain the mechanism by which it maintains such a consistent path when we know the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent.

Because even right here your entire conceptualization of how this all works... Well, it doesn't work.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


The sun is inside the firmament. The sun orbits the magnetic mountain at the center of earth, for while the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent, the magnetic mountain maintains its shape and force and creates the pinpoint around which the heavens orbit.

You have a preconceived notion that this conceptualization is wrong simply because you don’t want to admit that you are wrong.
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The sun is a plasma orb that naturally circles above the earth in accordance with electromagnetic fluctuations of earth. Since it is plasma, it is not suspended but naturally inheres in its current position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


What causes these magnetic fluctuations?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


Good question!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


Where do meteors come from?

dasbier
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Pieces of the dome breaking off...
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We know that Earth is perfectly stationary, and has never moved a millimeter in all of recorded time.

As proved by the MM and MG experiments. Also, "Airey's Failure" and the Sagnac experiment.

As to flat?

The evidence of visible objects that far exceed the expected distance (re eight inches per mile squared of curvature, derived from Pythagorean geometry) tends to indicate that the "ball" with a diameter of almost 8 thousand miles, is not the place we live on (or in.)

drevil
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79526723


Congratulations on managing to be wrong about every single thing you just said.

First let's start with the 8 inches per mile squared... For one thing that's a formula for a parabola not a circle so that's obviously:

1: an approximation only meant for short distances.

2. Definitely not a formula for figuring out what you should be able to see or not see from a given distance. There are formulas for that, but this isn't one of them.

3. You can tell it's not a formula for anything visual because it's missing a whole fuck ton of variables any one of which not being factored in could create a situation where it gives you the wrong answer.

Next let's move on to the experiments you reference. The two michelson experiments are about the aether not the earth rotating or moving, kinda the same with sorry and sagnac.

Conclusion: You list 5 experiments and one "curvature formula" all of which you are attempting to apply to things that they are, to put it gently, not in any way fit for purpose much less actually what you say they are.

It is no wonder you have come up with such an asinine conclusion when you have attempted to use the wrong tools.

I would highly suggest that you read the actual experiment papers yourself and not someone else's interpretation of them as a first step towards understanding why everything you just said is meaningless and laughable.

I would next look into just what the origins of the 8 inches per mile squared formula are and what it's actual intended application was. (Because that formula is not what you think it is. It did at one point have a legitimate use, but that use was NEVER about determining sight lines.)

From there, I would actually look into how exactly you really would go about determining what you should and shouldn't see if earth were a sphere and the requisite math behind doing so, taking special note of all the different variables 8in x miles squared does not take into account..

If and or when you actually do this and come back to this posting, we can talk about what you've learned and how it may or may not have changed your opinions on your initial thesis (spoiler alert: if you actually look into the things I've suggested, IT WILL CHANGE YOUR OPINION)

BUT

Unless and until you do the things I've suggested I won't be bothering to respond to any of your replies for the simple fact that as the saying goes....

You're so off base you're not even wrong.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


clown. MM was about aether but accidentally proved earth isn't moving. you're just another indoctrinated fool
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77786602


At absolute best michaelson morley proved that the aether wasn't moving, not that the earth wasn't moving.

You'd have had to set up the experiment entirely differently to prove that the earth wasn't moving.

Also, sagnac definitely proved earth was moving so you're shit out of luck there too.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


That’s false.
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What causes these magnetic fluctuations?

dasbier
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Good question!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


Where do meteors come from?

dasbier
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Pieces of the dome breaking off...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


So the dome is made of iron and stone?

dasbier
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How is the sun suspended?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


The sun is a plasma orb that naturally circles above the earth in accordance with electromagnetic fluctuations of earth. Since it is plasma, it is not suspended but naturally inheres in its current position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


So is the sun inside the "firmament" or outside?

And explain the mechanism by which it maintains such a consistent path when we know the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent.

Because even right here your entire conceptualization of how this all works... Well, it doesn't work.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


...


How is the sun suspended?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


The sun is a plasma orb that naturally circles above the earth in accordance with electromagnetic fluctuations of earth. Since it is plasma, it is not suspended but naturally inheres in its current position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


So is the sun inside the "firmament" or outside?

And explain the mechanism by which it maintains such a consistent path when we know the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent.

Because even right here your entire conceptualization of how this all works... Well, it doesn't work.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


The sun is inside the firmament. The sun orbits the magnetic mountain at the center of earth, for while the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent, the magnetic mountain maintains its shape and force and creates the pinpoint around which the heavens orbit.

You have a preconceived notion that this conceptualization is wrong simply because you don’t want to admit that you are wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


You see, that's where you're wrong. I've tested most of these things myself, many times accidentally and incidentally in the process of pursuing my other hobbies.

For example, I've been south of the equator and wouldn't you know it... The stars spin the opposite direction!

You also can't see the north star!

It's kinda like how I've played with both physical and fiber optic 3 axis gyroscopes, and the 3 axis fiber ones really do show a 15 degree per hour drift in all 3 axes!

And every time I sight in a gun or go out with my friend who shoots long range PRS matches I see that coriolis is a thing and that gravity broadly operates the way I'm told it should.

I'm not just guessing here.

The worst part though, Is I've tried to reverse engineer how the things I see could POSSIBLY WORK if earth wasn't a ball etc and... It just couldn't work. At least not without there being some extremely big and noticeable fuckery in the consistency of physical laws etc
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Congratulations on managing to be wrong about every single thing you just said.

First let's start with the 8 inches per mile squared... For one thing that's a formula for a parabola not a circle so that's obviously:

1: an approximation only meant for short distances.

2. Definitely not a formula for figuring out what you should be able to see or not see from a given distance. There are formulas for that, but this isn't one of them.

3. You can tell it's not a formula for anything visual because it's missing a whole fuck ton of variables any one of which not being factored in could create a situation where it gives you the wrong answer.

Next let's move on to the experiments you reference. The two michelson experiments are about the aether not the earth rotating or moving, kinda the same with sorry and sagnac.

Conclusion: You list 5 experiments and one "curvature formula" all of which you are attempting to apply to things that they are, to put it gently, not in any way fit for purpose much less actually what you say they are.

It is no wonder you have come up with such an asinine conclusion when you have attempted to use the wrong tools.

I would highly suggest that you read the actual experiment papers yourself and not someone else's interpretation of them as a first step towards understanding why everything you just said is meaningless and laughable.

I would next look into just what the origins of the 8 inches per mile squared formula are and what it's actual intended application was. (Because that formula is not what you think it is. It did at one point have a legitimate use, but that use was NEVER about determining sight lines.)

From there, I would actually look into how exactly you really would go about determining what you should and shouldn't see if earth were a sphere and the requisite math behind doing so, taking special note of all the different variables 8in x miles squared does not take into account..

If and or when you actually do this and come back to this posting, we can talk about what you've learned and how it may or may not have changed your opinions on your initial thesis (spoiler alert: if you actually look into the things I've suggested, IT WILL CHANGE YOUR OPINION)

BUT

Unless and until you do the things I've suggested I won't be bothering to respond to any of your replies for the simple fact that as the saying goes....

You're so off base you're not even wrong.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


clown. MM was about aether but accidentally proved earth isn't moving. you're just another indoctrinated fool
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77786602


At absolute best michaelson morley proved that the aether wasn't moving, not that the earth wasn't moving.

You'd have had to set up the experiment entirely differently to prove that the earth wasn't moving.

Also, sagnac definitely proved earth was moving so you're shit out of luck there too.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


That’s false.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


You don't just get to say that's false.

Explain why it's false or I'm calling bullshit.

I mean you obviously know differently, so EXPLAIN WHY I'M WRONG.
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Good question!
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Where do meteors come from?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


Pieces of the dome breaking off...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


So the dome is made of iron and stone?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


...


Good question!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


Where do meteors come from?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


Pieces of the dome breaking off...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


So the dome is made of iron and stone?

dasbier
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No, the dome is made of a crystal—like glass. The iron and stone “meteorites” that you might see in exhibits weren’t actually from the sky, most likely, but were rather eroded pieces of the native landscape. When has someone actually seen a meteorite fall and then go pick it up and realize that it’s made of iron?? Never.
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the earth is a ship...a flat ship would not be aerodynamic...to fly ...or steer underwater...lol
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Where do meteors come from?

dasbier
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Pieces of the dome breaking off...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


So the dome is made of iron and stone?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


...


Where do meteors come from?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


Pieces of the dome breaking off...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


So the dome is made of iron and stone?

dasbier
 Quoting: 30-30-150 71838577


No, the dome is made of a crystal—like glass. The iron and stone “meteorites” that you might see in exhibits weren’t actually from the sky, most likely, but were rather eroded pieces of the native landscape. When has someone actually seen a meteorite fall and then go pick it up and realize that it’s made of iron?? Never.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


Why does meteorite iron have alloys and etc that don't occur on earth then?

See because that's a problem.
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The sun is a plasma orb that naturally circles above the earth in accordance with electromagnetic fluctuations of earth. Since it is plasma, it is not suspended but naturally inheres in its current position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


So is the sun inside the "firmament" or outside?

And explain the mechanism by which it maintains such a consistent path when we know the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent.

Because even right here your entire conceptualization of how this all works... Well, it doesn't work.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


...


The sun is a plasma orb that naturally circles above the earth in accordance with electromagnetic fluctuations of earth. Since it is plasma, it is not suspended but naturally inheres in its current position.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


So is the sun inside the "firmament" or outside?

And explain the mechanism by which it maintains such a consistent path when we know the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent.

Because even right here your entire conceptualization of how this all works... Well, it doesn't work.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


The sun is inside the firmament. The sun orbits the magnetic mountain at the center of earth, for while the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent, the magnetic mountain maintains its shape and force and creates the pinpoint around which the heavens orbit.

You have a preconceived notion that this conceptualization is wrong simply because you don’t want to admit that you are wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


You see, that's where you're wrong. I've tested most of these things myself, many times accidentally and incidentally in the process of pursuing my other hobbies.

For example, I've been south of the equator and wouldn't you know it... The stars spin the opposite direction!

You also can't see the north star!

It's kinda like how I've played with both physical and fiber optic 3 axis gyroscopes, and the 3 axis fiber ones really do show a 15 degree per hour drift in all 3 axes!

And every time I sight in a gun or go out with my friend who shoots long range PRS matches I see that coriolis is a thing and that gravity broadly operates the way I'm told it should.

I'm not just guessing here.

The worst part though, Is I've tried to reverse engineer how the things I see could POSSIBLY WORK if earth wasn't a ball etc and... It just couldn't work. At least not without there being some extremely big and noticeable fuckery in the consistency of physical laws etc
 Quoting: roguetechie81


If you’ve seen stars spin the opposite direction, that would invalidate globe earth as well. Lol!

You can’t see the North Star because of the nature of earth and the expansive firmament: it is vast enough that, due to perspective, it becomes blurred on the horizon. However, with an infrared camera, it is visible as far south as Chile.

Sorry but I don’t believe you about the fiber optic gyroscopes showing drift of the kind that validates an alleged rotation of earth.

So you sight-in your guns with coriolis in mind? Lol, what a joke.

What wouldn’t work in your reverse-engineered model?
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clown. MM was about aether but accidentally proved earth isn't moving. you're just another indoctrinated fool
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At absolute best michaelson morley proved that the aether wasn't moving, not that the earth wasn't moving.

You'd have had to set up the experiment entirely differently to prove that the earth wasn't moving.

Also, sagnac definitely proved earth was moving so you're shit out of luck there too.
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That’s false.
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You don't just get to say that's false.

Explain why it's false or I'm calling bullshit.

I mean you obviously know differently, so EXPLAIN WHY I'M WRONG.
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When earth’s ether doesn’t move, earth doesn’t move.
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the earth is a ship...a flat ship would not be aerodynamic...to fly ...or steer underwater...lol
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See, that is the lie. Earth is not a ship. It is a womb.
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Pieces of the dome breaking off...
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So the dome is made of iron and stone?

dasbier
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Pieces of the dome breaking off...
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So the dome is made of iron and stone?

dasbier
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No, the dome is made of a crystal—like glass. The iron and stone “meteorites” that you might see in exhibits weren’t actually from the sky, most likely, but were rather eroded pieces of the native landscape. When has someone actually seen a meteorite fall and then go pick it up and realize that it’s made of iron?? Never.
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Why does meteorite iron have alloys and etc that don't occur on earth then?

See because that's a problem.
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“Meteorite” iron does occur on earth, just very infrequently. That’s why modern globalists have hijacked their rarity and made the false claim that they don’t occur on earth.
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So the dome is made of iron and stone?

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So the dome is made of iron and stone?

dasbier
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No, the dome is made of a crystal—like glass. The iron and stone “meteorites” that you might see in exhibits weren’t actually from the sky, most likely, but were rather eroded pieces of the native landscape. When has someone actually seen a meteorite fall and then go pick it up and realize that it’s made of iron?? Never.
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Why does meteorite iron have alloys and etc that don't occur on earth then?

See because that's a problem.
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“Meteorite” iron does occur on earth, just very infrequently. That’s why modern globalists have hijacked their rarity and made the false claim that they don’t occur on earth.
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How does the sun become blocked from my viewpoint at sunset?

dasbier
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So is the sun inside the "firmament" or outside?

And explain the mechanism by which it maintains such a consistent path when we know the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent.

Because even right here your entire conceptualization of how this all works... Well, it doesn't work.
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So is the sun inside the "firmament" or outside?

And explain the mechanism by which it maintains such a consistent path when we know the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent.

Because even right here your entire conceptualization of how this all works... Well, it doesn't work.
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The sun is inside the firmament. The sun orbits the magnetic mountain at the center of earth, for while the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent, the magnetic mountain maintains its shape and force and creates the pinpoint around which the heavens orbit.

You have a preconceived notion that this conceptualization is wrong simply because you don’t want to admit that you are wrong.
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You see, that's where you're wrong. I've tested most of these things myself, many times accidentally and incidentally in the process of pursuing my other hobbies.

For example, I've been south of the equator and wouldn't you know it... The stars spin the opposite direction!

You also can't see the north star!

It's kinda like how I've played with both physical and fiber optic 3 axis gyroscopes, and the 3 axis fiber ones really do show a 15 degree per hour drift in all 3 axes!

And every time I sight in a gun or go out with my friend who shoots long range PRS matches I see that coriolis is a thing and that gravity broadly operates the way I'm told it should.

I'm not just guessing here.

The worst part though, Is I've tried to reverse engineer how the things I see could POSSIBLY WORK if earth wasn't a ball etc and... It just couldn't work. At least not without there being some extremely big and noticeable fuckery in the consistency of physical laws etc
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If you’ve seen stars spin the opposite direction, that would invalidate globe earth as well. Lol!

You can’t see the North Star because of the nature of earth and the expansive firmament: it is vast enough that, due to perspective, it becomes blurred on the horizon. However, with an infrared camera, it is visible as far south as Chile.

Sorry but I don’t believe you about the fiber optic gyroscopes showing drift of the kind that validates an alleged rotation of earth.

So you sight-in your guns with coriolis in mind? Lol, what a joke.

What wouldn’t work in your reverse-engineered model?
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No I don't sight my guns in with coriolis in mind because I don't shoot at distances of more than one kilometer...

Since we're on that subject Though, do you know why you don't factor in coriolis etc when shooting at distances under 1000 meters?

Because at those distances the amount it will shift your point of impact from your point of aim is less than the shift in poi from the guns mechanical accuracy factors, wind, ammunition variabilities, and multiple other factors only some of which I understand.

To top it off though there's also the oetvos effect which can affect really long shots.

As far as things that can't work on a flat earth with a dome...

Space exists. That's kinda a huge problem.

There's also the fact that australia can only be the distance we KNOW it is from south america and everywhere else if Earth is a sphere.

Physical distances not being right is a big fucking deal.
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At absolute best michaelson morley proved that the aether wasn't moving, not that the earth wasn't moving.

You'd have had to set up the experiment entirely differently to prove that the earth wasn't moving.

Also, sagnac definitely proved earth was moving so you're shit out of luck there too.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


That’s false.
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You don't just get to say that's false.

Explain why it's false or I'm calling bullshit.

I mean you obviously know differently, so EXPLAIN WHY I'M WRONG.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


When earth’s ether doesn’t move, earth doesn’t move.
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Ah ha, see... First of all there is no aether but what exactly was the purpose of the aether again?

See because if you can't tell me what the aether was that's an issue...

AND more importantly if you actually look into all this and step yourself through it you'll figure out why the earth is a sphere.
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No, the dome is made of a crystal—like glass. The iron and stone “meteorites” that you might see in exhibits weren’t actually from the sky, most likely, but were rather eroded pieces of the native landscape. When has someone actually seen a meteorite fall and then go pick it up and realize that it’s made of iron?? Never.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


Why does meteorite iron have alloys and etc that don't occur on earth then?

See because that's a problem.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


“Meteorite” iron does occur on earth, just very infrequently. That’s why modern globalists have hijacked their rarity and made the false claim that they don’t occur on earth.
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How does the sun become blocked from my viewpoint at sunset?

dasbier
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The sun is like a spotlight that illuminates only roughly half the earth at once. At sunset, the spread of light from the sun is at the edge of your location, and once it passes that edge, the light is gone.
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The sun is inside the firmament. The sun orbits the magnetic mountain at the center of earth, for while the geomagnetic field does not stay consistent, the magnetic mountain maintains its shape and force and creates the pinpoint around which the heavens orbit.

You have a preconceived notion that this conceptualization is wrong simply because you don’t want to admit that you are wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


You see, that's where you're wrong. I've tested most of these things myself, many times accidentally and incidentally in the process of pursuing my other hobbies.

For example, I've been south of the equator and wouldn't you know it... The stars spin the opposite direction!

You also can't see the north star!

It's kinda like how I've played with both physical and fiber optic 3 axis gyroscopes, and the 3 axis fiber ones really do show a 15 degree per hour drift in all 3 axes!

And every time I sight in a gun or go out with my friend who shoots long range PRS matches I see that coriolis is a thing and that gravity broadly operates the way I'm told it should.

I'm not just guessing here.

The worst part though, Is I've tried to reverse engineer how the things I see could POSSIBLY WORK if earth wasn't a ball etc and... It just couldn't work. At least not without there being some extremely big and noticeable fuckery in the consistency of physical laws etc
 Quoting: roguetechie81


If you’ve seen stars spin the opposite direction, that would invalidate globe earth as well. Lol!

You can’t see the North Star because of the nature of earth and the expansive firmament: it is vast enough that, due to perspective, it becomes blurred on the horizon. However, with an infrared camera, it is visible as far south as Chile.

Sorry but I don’t believe you about the fiber optic gyroscopes showing drift of the kind that validates an alleged rotation of earth.

So you sight-in your guns with coriolis in mind? Lol, what a joke.

What wouldn’t work in your reverse-engineered model?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77892462


No I don't sight my guns in with coriolis in mind because I don't shoot at distances of more than one kilometer...

Since we're on that subject Though, do you know why you don't factor in coriolis etc when shooting at distances under 1000 meters?

Because at those distances the amount it will shift your point of impact from your point of aim is less than the shift in poi from the guns mechanical accuracy factors, wind, ammunition variabilities, and multiple other factors only some of which I understand.

To top it off though there's also the oetvos effect which can affect really long shots.

As far as things that can't work on a flat earth with a dome...

Space exists. That's kinda a huge problem.

There's also the fact that australia can only be the distance we KNOW it is from south america and everywhere else if Earth is a sphere.

Physical distances not being right is a big fucking deal.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


What do you mean by “space exists”?

The distances of continents is a big deal, you are right. But those distances show time and again why the flat earth model is correct. The commercial plane routes show that the flat earth map is the map being used. For example, flight from Asia to North America fly over the Aleutians. There are no actual flights in the southern “hemisphere” between points that should naturally have flights on a globe earth model, such as Cape Town and Buenos Aires. Or Melbourne and Santiago. Even if you can find them in the booking they are fake, for as soon as you try to book one, it has an error.
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Yes, you have all been deceived your entire lives by the Jesuits and the Freemasons into believing that we live on a ball that flies around the sun. Nothing could be farther from the truth. We live on a flat, stationary earth with a sun that circles overhead.

You want proof? Easy. We can see too far. Lighthouses can be seen in excess of 75 miles, and mountains can be seen over 275 miles away. In both these instances, the objects should be obscured by hundreds if not thousands of feet of curvature. See Eric Dubay and his International Flat Earth Research Society for hundreds of more proofs.

You might be wondering, why have we been lied to? The answer to that question is long and multifarious, but in general has to do with inducing nihilism and stupidity into a slave population...but we are not slaves!, you protest...and that is questionable but so long as you continue to believe in globe earth and heliocentrism, you are slave to their machinations.

HH

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How is the sun suspended?

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Modern FE theory has no idea.

We see the Sun and Moon simply as luminaries in the sky.

Both are about the same size, and close by (around 3K miles.)

As to how the Sun and Moon work; your guess is as good as mine.

Note that it's OK to say that "we don't know."

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Why does meteorite iron have alloys and etc that don't occur on earth then?

See because that's a problem.
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“Meteorite” iron does occur on earth, just very infrequently. That’s why modern globalists have hijacked their rarity and made the false claim that they don’t occur on earth.
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How does the sun become blocked from my viewpoint at sunset?

dasbier
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The sun is like a spotlight that illuminates only roughly half the earth at once. At sunset, the spread of light from the sun is at the edge of your location, and once it passes that edge, the light is gone.
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So, the horizon then?

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Okay but wait if it was flat...wouldn't things fall off?

scratching

Also, are you saying that only earth is flat? Like Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, etc are all round though?

scratching
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Antarctic ice wall dumb shit.
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Yes, you have all been deceived your entire lives by the Jesuits and the Freemasons into believing that we live on a ball that flies around the sun. Nothing could be farther from the truth. We live on a flat, stationary earth with a sun that circles overhead.

You want proof? Easy. We can see too far. Lighthouses can be seen in excess of 75 miles, and mountains can be seen over 275 miles away. In both these instances, the objects should be obscured by hundreds if not thousands of feet of curvature. See Eric Dubay and his International Flat Earth Research Society for hundreds of more proofs.

You might be wondering, why have we been lied to? The answer to that question is long and multifarious, but in general has to do with inducing nihilism and stupidity into a slave population...but we are not slaves!, you protest...and that is questionable but so long as you continue to believe in globe earth and heliocentrism, you are slave to their machinations.

HH

p.s.-This is a repost. The first posting was deleted.
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How is the sun suspended?

dasbier
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Modern FE theory has no idea.

We see the Sun and Moon simply as luminaries in the sky.

Both are about the same size, and close by (around 3K miles.)

As to how the Sun and Moon work; your guess is as good as mine.

Note that it's OK to say that "we don't know."

drevil
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How does the sun become blocked from my viewpoint at sunset?

dasbier
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That’s false.
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You don't just get to say that's false.

Explain why it's false or I'm calling bullshit.

I mean you obviously know differently, so EXPLAIN WHY I'M WRONG.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


When earth’s ether doesn’t move, earth doesn’t move.
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Ah ha, see... First of all there is no aether but what exactly was the purpose of the aether again?

See because if you can't tell me what the aether was that's an issue...

AND more importantly if you actually look into all this and step yourself through it you'll figure out why the earth is a sphere.
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Ether exists. It is the most expanded, most rarified, most subtle of substances. It is the matrix from which gases then liquids then physical substances are condensed. The ether science of the late nineteenth century was more accurate than the atomic-based models of today.

All of this continues to prove that the earth is flat and stationary.
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“Meteorite” iron does occur on earth, just very infrequently. That’s why modern globalists have hijacked their rarity and made the false claim that they don’t occur on earth.
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How does the sun become blocked from my viewpoint at sunset?

dasbier
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The sun is like a spotlight that illuminates only roughly half the earth at once. At sunset, the spread of light from the sun is at the edge of your location, and once it passes that edge, the light is gone.
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So, the horizon then?

dasbier
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Yes, the horizon. Btw, how did you get that unique user ID number?
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The earth goes on forever. We live in a single sun environment.

Antarctic is the barrier to our enclosure. Cameras in the antarctic showed a second sun in many videos...not the moon. If you where to go towards the next sun you would find another sun environment. And on and on and on. Thats why the area is protected...to keep us in.

The equater is the suns orbit that does move inwards and outwards which gives us seasons. This also causes an effect that makes it look like the stars are moving in the opposite direction. Its just an effect from being on the opposite side of the suns equator run.

Fun stuff to contemplate.

I won't be back to read your comments.





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