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Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.

 
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the elderly are ready to do ANYTHING to get this shot, anything, and want to force their family to too. meth addicts don't got nothing on drug seeking compared to elderly seeking this shot. i did not hide from virus, but i am hiding from elderly relatives at this point in time.
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It's understandable. They have been fed lies for months now. They are scared. Not just the elderly.

We GLP'lers must recognize that only very few are awake. Maybe 1 in 10000 people, or even less. Pretty much everyone around you is more robot than human being.

But you have to have compassion. They are victims. Remember that we GLP'lers as well we're victims once until Trinity came to set us free.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
She wants the jab, ASAP. She said they wouldn’t put it out if it wasn’t safe and she has not heard any bad things on her local news. She doesn’t want to hear my thoughts. I am worried sick. Anyone else going through this?
 Quoting: Yuck Fou


I've had the same or similar conversation with some of my elderly relatives, but unfortunately there's no way to change their minds with logic or reason. It's a spiritual stronghold they're under (a "spell", brianwashing, etc.). You can't break a spell with logic or reason; you need divine intervention that can only come when the affected person wants it FROM THE HEART. This normally only comes after intense suffering.

OP -- you are not alone in feeling angry and frustrated and even frightened, but you have to let your mother be. You're only going to make things worse for her by harping at her. You've planted the seeds. It's up to her whether or not she wants to water them and let them grow.

When I was teenager, I did horrendously stupid things that my parents at first tried to prevent me from doing, like hitchhiking across the country. They told me about all the young female hitchhikers who were disappearing and ending up dead in garbage bags by the side of the road, but I didn't listen to their horror stories. It's not that I didn't believe them; I just didn't think it applied to me. I wanted to hitchhike across the country by myself, and nothing was going to stop me, regardless of how graphic the evidence was of the murdered girls. So, my parents eventually gave up trying to stop me from doing what they knew I was going to do anyway. They didn't agree with my hitchhiking plans, but they backed off and let me do my thing.

Needless to say, I had some horrible experiences that eventually brought an end to my hitchhiking days. But if I hadn't had those experiences myself, I would not have stopped hitchhiking.

What I'm trying to say here is that some people need to experience intense pain before they snap out of the spell. Until that happens, you have to let them make their own decisions, however wrong you think those decisions may be. You have to let them suffer the consequences of their choices.

Life's lessons can be very, very harsh sometimes, and it's just as hard for adult children wanting to protect their elderly parents as it is for parents wanting to protect their young children. There's always a point when the protective parties have to back off and let the mistakes be made.

Even so, there's a chance that your mother might change her mind. Something might intervene between now and when she's scheduled to get the shot. If you're a praying person, pray for her. I'll pray for her, too. When you invite God into the equation, he respects free will, but he sure knows how to persuade. And his timing is always perfect.
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Thank you for your post.
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brother in law in one breath told me what gov had done to him with agent orange and next breath told me to trust gov. i do not understand.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
the elderly are ready to do ANYTHING to get this shot, anything, and want to force their family to too. meth addicts don't got nothing on drug seeking compared to elderly seeking this shot. i did not hide from virus, but i am hiding from elderly relatives at this point in time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79970668


It's understandable. They have been fed lies for months now. They are scared. Not just the elderly.

We GLP'lers must recognize that only very few are awake. Maybe 1 in 10000 people, or even less. Pretty much everyone around you is more robot than human being.

But you have to have compassion. They are victims. Remember that we GLP'lers as well we're victims once until Trinity came to set us free.
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I was reading right along until Trinity set us free. I kind of puked in my mouth when I read that.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
the elderly are ready to do ANYTHING to get this shot, anything, and want to force their family to too. meth addicts don't got nothing on drug seeking compared to elderly seeking this shot. i did not hide from virus, but i am hiding from elderly relatives at this point in time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79970668


It's understandable. They have been fed lies for months now. They are scared. Not just the elderly.

We GLP'lers must recognize that only very few are awake. Maybe 1 in 10000 people, or even less. Pretty much everyone around you is more robot than human being.

But you have to have compassion. They are victims. Remember that we GLP'lers as well we're victims once until Trinity came to set us free.
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lucky the millenials and zoomers lifespan will probably be 45-60 at best.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
the elderly are ready to do ANYTHING to get this shot, anything, and want to force their family to too. meth addicts don't got nothing on drug seeking compared to elderly seeking this shot. i did not hide from virus, but i am hiding from elderly relatives at this point in time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79970668


It's understandable. They have been fed lies for months now. They are scared. Not just the elderly.

We GLP'lers must recognize that only very few are awake. Maybe 1 in 10000 people, or even less. Pretty much everyone around you is more robot than human being.

But you have to have compassion. They are victims. Remember that we GLP'lers as well we're victims once until Trinity came to set us free.
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lucky the millenials and zoomers lifespan will probably be 45-60 at best.
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god help us. it won't be many years and these will be the groups that our gov will be from.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
She wants the jab, ASAP. She said they wouldn’t put it out if it wasn’t safe and she has not heard any bad things on her local news. She doesn’t want to hear my thoughts. I am worried sick. Anyone else going through this?
 Quoting: Yuck Fou


My mum is 82 and as fit as a fiddle. Looks like and does what a 65 year old does.
My sister is 54, cerebral palsied, mentally handicapped and wheelchair bound all of her life.
Neither of them will be getting this shit and I have explained in detail why they shouldn't .Fortunately, my mum agrees.
Family members in the UK have already had theirs and now we wait and see.
We live in terrible times.
Just a castaway, an island lost at sea...

Four legs good, two legs baaaaad!
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
the elderly are ready to do ANYTHING to get this shot, anything, and want to force their family to too. meth addicts don't got nothing on drug seeking compared to elderly seeking this shot. i did not hide from virus, but i am hiding from elderly relatives at this point in time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79970668


It's understandable. They have been fed lies for months now. They are scared. Not just the elderly.

We GLP'lers must recognize that only very few are awake. Maybe 1 in 10000 people, or even less. Pretty much everyone around you is more robot than human being.

But you have to have compassion. They are victims. Remember that we GLP'lers as well we're victims once until Trinity came to set us free.
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I was reading right along until Trinity set us free. I kind of puked in my mouth when I read that.
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trinity may be a lot of things, but god and savior he is not.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
the elderly are ready to do ANYTHING to get this shot, anything, and want to force their family to too. meth addicts don't got nothing on drug seeking compared to elderly seeking this shot. i did not hide from virus, but i am hiding from elderly relatives at this point in time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79970668


It's understandable. They have been fed lies for months now. They are scared. Not just the elderly.

We GLP'lers must recognize that only very few are awake. Maybe 1 in 10000 people, or even less. Pretty much everyone around you is more robot than human being.

But you have to have compassion. They are victims. Remember that we GLP'lers as well we're victims once until Trinity came to set us free.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79970512


lucky the millenials and zoomers lifespan will probably be 45-60 at best.
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god help us. it won't be many years and these will be the groups that our gov will be from.
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so we will be forever young.
MY VALENTINES DAY SERMON
Mothers, Fathers, Daughters, Nieces, Nephews, Brothers, and Sisters, And all people of the great world, its the ideological concept of not becoming sitting ducks of mankind on this great valentine, Which is Sublime, of the Mind, A day that is so Sublime that it blows Minds.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
She wants the jab, ASAP. She said they wouldn’t put it out if it wasn’t safe and she has not heard any bad things on her local news. She doesn’t want to hear my thoughts. I am worried sick. Anyone else going through this?
 Quoting: Yuck Fou


If she's over 70 and has other disease she'll probably croak if she gets covid. Her risk of death is lower if she gets vaccinated at this point. Leave her the fuck alone and quit virtue signalling. You don't really care as much as you let on.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
She wants the jab, ASAP. She said they wouldn’t put it out if it wasn’t safe and she has not heard any bad things on her local news. She doesn’t want to hear my thoughts. I am worried sick. Anyone else going through this?
 Quoting: Yuck Fou


If she's over 70 and has other disease she'll probably croak if she gets covid. Her risk of death is lower if she gets vaccinated at this point. Leave her the fuck alone and quit virtue signalling. You don't really care as much as you let on.
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i know someone 70 plus that was diagnosed and sick like flu when diagnosed. they are type 2 diabetic 35 plus years and a heart problem that required heart surgery two weeks before diagnosed. they were sick, very uncomfortable sick but three weeks latter and they are back to normal, no meds and no hospital, and no vitamin add on of any kind. there is a bad flu that the flu shot does not cover going around, but not nearly the picture gov is painting. i know a few that were sick and tested positive, all drama queens. over 80 and additional health problems i might worry.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
She wants the jab, ASAP. She said they wouldn’t put it out if it wasn’t safe and she has not heard any bad things on her local news. She doesn’t want to hear my thoughts. I am worried sick. Anyone else going through this?
 Quoting: Yuck Fou


Yes my dad and stepmom, stepmom took the first shot for a week I've been sending them tons of info. But my stepmom got the shot I sent her a text link 23 isreals tested positive of covid-19 after the shot. so if it's a dead virus it would be negative and a live virus tested positive.

My dad was very pissed off at me for scaring her thinking she's going to die. My stepmom is a idiot she told me since my dad has a bad hearth he's at a higher risk he can't take any chances so he should get the shot.


Yes that makes no logic to me what so fucking ever. You stay 6 feet apart wear masks for a goddamn year trying not to get the VIRUS but you willingly take a shot with a live virus why do you think they have to keep it so cold at -70f a doctor was charged with a felony for not keeping shots that cold because it killed the fucking LIVE virus


Say it with me LIVE VIRUS the start of all this is the Harvard professor and the two chinese students linked to the ccp also watch event 201 near term end goal agenda 21 written up in 93 at the u.n do your home work know thee enemy.


I see a major f.f with the power grid thanks biden and china vault 7
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
Who's this "they" that wouldn't put something out unsafe?

That "they" isn't in this country.


Tell her that government made sure that "they" can't be sued if "they" kill people.

Tell her the vaccine didn't get close to the normal testing for bad reactions that is required and she along with all taking it are the test animals.

Tell her Hank Arron took it two weeks ago and dropped dead yesterday.

Tell her ivermectin is a cheap, legal drug that works.
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Good points. And also tell her that it's not a vaccine but an mRNA shot that will GENETICALLY MODIFY HER. It will splice her genetic code so that her own body's cells start manufacturing a piece of the spike proteins of a corona virus.

When she gets exposed to a real corona virus (any common cold), her immune system will produce a cytokine storm and will attack her own cells and body, and kill her.

This is the result of previous corona virus mRNA testing on cats. Every cat in the studies died when later exposed to a corona virus.

The deaths will be falsely blamed on a "new strain" of the covid virus and the overall death rate will skyrocket (from the vaccines killing people). These new deaths will be blamed on "a new strain of covid" and used as justification for forced vaccines to kill off the rest of us.

This is if they are not stopped and enough people don't stand up to them.

DO NOT COMPLY. Fight to the death to avoid the vaccine.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
"..... unfortunately there's no way to change their minds with logic or reason. It's a spiritual stronghold they're under (a "spell", brianwashing, etc.).
You can't break a spell with logic or reason; you need divine intervention that can only come when the affected person wants it FROM THE HEART.
This normally only comes after intense suffering."

I think you are right.
A STRONGHOLD.
A spell cast by all the media programming.

It's interesting that you mentioned suffering. Intense suffering is what makes people cry out to God and ask for help. To be humbled and broken.

But, after taking this shot, will their dna be changed? Like into a hybrid human?
God doesn't allow hybrids into heaven.

The above argument doesn't even faze these people.

I'm dealing with the exact same thing. There are 2 that I know - they cannot HEAR what I am telling them.
They get angry and insist they want to take it.

I've never seen anything like this in my life.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
She wants the jab, ASAP. She said they wouldn’t put it out if it wasn’t safe and she has not heard any bad things on her local news. She doesn’t want to hear my thoughts. I am worried sick. Anyone else going through this?
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Show her the videos.




or this one



or



This may just change her mind on playing the Covid Russian roulette game, or not.

Best of luck.
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Thanks. I was going to send her Skelton’s video, but YouTube deleted her account. I will send the liveleak link.
 Quoting: Yuck Fou


I personally don't believe Skelton's claims and video portrayals. All the other posts and videos I've seen sounded like legit adverse reactions. But, the way the Skelton woman moves it looks like she is doing it voluntarily, not involuntarily. So, find some other vids to send to your Mom, in case this one blows up and makes it worse trying to convince her she shouldn't take it.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
Who's this "they" that wouldn't put something out unsafe?

That "they" isn't in this country.


Tell her that government made sure that "they" can't be sued if "they" kill people.

Tell her the vaccine didn't get close to the normal testing for bad reactions that is required and she along with all taking it are the test animals.

Tell her Hank Arron took it two weeks ago and dropped dead yesterday.

Tell her ivermectin is a cheap, legal drug that works.
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Can she sue YOU if the ivermectin doesn’t work?
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
"..... unfortunately there's no way to change their minds with logic or reason. It's a spiritual stronghold they're under (a "spell", brianwashing, etc.).
You can't break a spell with logic or reason; you need divine intervention that can only come when the affected person wants it FROM THE HEART.
This normally only comes after intense suffering."

I think you are right.
A STRONGHOLD.
A spell cast by all the media programming.

It's interesting that you mentioned suffering. Intense suffering is what makes people cry out to God and ask for help. To be humbled and broken.

But, after taking this shot, will their dna be changed? Like into a hybrid human?
God doesn't allow hybrids into heaven.

The above argument doesn't even faze these people.

I'm dealing with the exact same thing. There are 2 that I know - they cannot HEAR what I am telling them.
They get angry and insist they want to take it.

I've never seen anything like this in my life.
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See Hebrews 2. It is the fear of death and the bondage they are under.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
You only can educate her. I would not be arguing with her since she may be gone soon if she takes the jab. Make sure she knows you love her but she is an adult. It's very sad. I'm sorry.

I see many health worker friends get it. one ended up in the ER for most of the night. it all saddens me.

at least my one friend hashtagged after her 2nd guinea pig. at least she knows she is one
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Watch this and ask your mother to watch it with you.
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OMG, she’s been arrested!


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 Quoting: Yuck Fou


That was sabotage by our own Gooberment... Sad that she did the tour... CNN was caught leading the event.

Our country is doing what Nazi Germany did experiments on humans and here we are. Crazy times to say the least. Many are going to line up and I say let them if they are ignorant enough, however when it comes to your loved ones all you can do is educate them and kill their propaganda TV as that is their biggest influence.

Evil times that we all are in... Very sad as they are just gas lightning the masses with false information. Be safe out there.
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I'm not worried about idiots taking the experimental gene modifying poison cocktail and dying.

I'm worried about their deaths being written down as "COVID-19" and used to force it on the rest of us.

Freedom of choice is what must be defended at all cost here.

Sorry about your mom OP, but she's a grown woman, and she's entitled to making her own decisions. The only question is, will WE also be extended the same courtesy?
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I got mine to wait a minute. I've done what I can. Fuck everyone.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
She wants the jab, ASAP. She said they wouldn’t put it out if it wasn’t safe and she has not heard any bad things on her local news. She doesn’t want to hear my thoughts. I am worried sick. Anyone else going through this?
 Quoting: Yuck Fou


If she's over 70 and has other disease she'll probably croak if she gets covid. Her risk of death is lower if she gets vaccinated at this point. Leave her the fuck alone and quit virtue signalling. You don't really care as much as you let on.
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Using the manipulated deaths state, her chances of survival are 94.7% in a covid infection.
Removing the manipulated death stats, that survival rate is MUCH HIGHER.

So please tell us again how her risk of death is lower with an experimental mRNA and dna medical device missold and misrepresented as a vaccine, with no studies on elderly people with underlying health conditions, ?????

The only ones virtual signalling are the cloth wearers and jab takers.
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Re: Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
She wants the jab, ASAP. She said they wouldn’t put it out if it wasn’t safe and she has not heard any bad things on her local news. She doesn’t want to hear my thoughts. I am worried sick. Anyone else going through this?
 Quoting: Yuck Fou


If she's over 70 and has other disease she'll probably croak if she gets covid. Her risk of death is lower if she gets vaccinated at this point. Leave her the fuck alone and quit virtue signalling. You don't really care as much as you let on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72879509


Using the manipulated deaths state, her chances of survival are 94.7% in a covid infection.
Removing the manipulated death stats, that survival rate is MUCH HIGHER.

So please tell us again how her risk of death is lower with an experimental mRNA and dna medical device missold and misrepresented as a vaccine, with no studies on elderly people with underlying health conditions, ?????

The only ones virtual signalling are the cloth wearers and jab takers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79947296


i am verbally assertive towards mine and hell i dont care shes a narcisist enabler.
MY VALENTINES DAY SERMON
Mothers, Fathers, Daughters, Nieces, Nephews, Brothers, and Sisters, And all people of the great world, its the ideological concept of not becoming sitting ducks of mankind on this great valentine, Which is Sublime, of the Mind, A day that is so Sublime that it blows Minds.
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Poly Ethylene Glycol msds.

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The toxicological properties have not been fully investigated.

Delayed and immediate effects as well as chronic effects from short and long-term exposure - No information available

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My sister got one of those swab tests, and her daughter twice. Told her, “I don’t trust any of that stuff...did you hear about the batch that was contaminated with covid, they’re made in China? I would just lie.”

She said she wouldn’t do that. I said, “Well, please do your research on the vax,” and let it drop.

Been praying for God to convince her. Takes real self-control not to bring up horror stories when I see her/the family, but know they’re not going to listen to me. It’ll have to come from somewhere else.

Good luck to us all! grouphug
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Got into it with my elderly Mom tonight.
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Gross. But, to each their own.

I hope you at least wore a condom.





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