NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76714005 United States 01/26/2021 08:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them It's a large flocks, several dozen chickens and they've ALL stopped laying. He says he's gonna have to kill them all. I don't know anything about this except it sounds rather apocalyptic. Quoting: PresidentElect BlueStateRebel Has anyone seen this before and do you have any advice? Identify the poison. Heal the chickens naturally. Switched to Layena lay pellets...was using off brand- hens looked bad and we're eating their eggs if they did lay.. Light, not warmth is key to laying...a string of white Christmas lights in the coup set on a timer to extend the "daylight" hours to 14 hours...works wonders, not as expensive to run as heat lamp...heat lamps can cause fires... neighbor lost his garage one spring from heat lamp on some chicks... An old woman who had a ranch told me to save the egg shells and crush and BAKE for 30 minutes at 250...then feed back to hens...hens don't see/smell/taste as eggs. I did this and my hens are now laying like crazy in freezing weather with NO lights... 24 girls(all utility breeds) Getting 12 eggs a day Dead of winter... Was 18 degrees yesterday morning So...change your feed Prep your egg shells (don't trust the oyster stuff, back in the day it was actually fractured oyster shell, now it doesn't look or smell right and hens won't touch it) Add light is u want... Give it 2 weeks Also Rodents eat/ take eggs As do raccons and skunks And ground squirrels when not hybernating. Racoons kill birds though so you'd know if u had one They're brutal they kill just to kill Collecting eggs 2 to 3 times a day helps with egg eaters Btw, my banty hens stopped laying in October, so breed does make a difference Good luck or good eating. Also...a hen that is laying has a really red comb that is 'waxy'. Her feathers won't be perfect cus she's getting in and out of the best box..and if she has yellow leggs, they'll turn pale from laying...you're on your own if they have black legs though, lol Use this criteria for culling the flock... Also check for parasite Scaley lag caused by mites Love in the feathers will cause loss of production Good books at tractor supply, but don't by their brand of feed, dumor Su ks the big one Lice Not love Btw folks, lice are host specific Humans don't taste good to chicken lice They will. Ause drop in production Hickens also need deworming We used to use piperzine in the water. And poor feed, shock to system or season will bring on a molt(feather change) Big decrease in egg production but not complete stop. Hope this helps |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19582032 United States 01/26/2021 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them I've got 8 chickens and live in western Michigan. It's been very cold for the last week, no exception today. Yesterday I didn't remove eggs, today I flipped the box cover, 18 eggs. I put a heat lamp in their coop back when the weather turned cold, it's kept them laying normally. |
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User ID: 76539470 United States 01/26/2021 08:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them I have old girls and they aren't laying now..but it is totally normal for chickens to not lay in the winter. It is about light, and temp, and protein levels. I supplement with dried mealworms in the winter and our girls get lots of veggie scraps from the kitchen. and they LOVE spaghetti. But no eggs quite yet. It's likely they will start laying again soon as the days are getting obviously longer. Here's a great download for home remedies for true illnesses. [link to www.countryfarm-lifestyles.com (secure)] There are loads of great homesteading websites and youtube channels with info about raising backyard chickens as well. "Violence simply is not radical enough, since it generally changes only the rulers but not the rules. What use is a revolution that fails to address the fundamental problem: the existence of domination in all its forms, and the myth of redemptive violence that perpetuates it?" - Walter Wink |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79396918 United States 01/26/2021 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them It's a large flocks, several dozen chickens and they've ALL stopped laying. He says he's gonna have to kill them all. I don't know anything about this except it sounds rather apocalyptic. Quoting: PresidentElect BlueStateRebel Has anyone seen this before and do you have any advice? OP I hope you read this before your friend kills those chickens! I have raised chickens for 20 years. It's WINTER! Most chickens either stop completely or are laying next to nothing during this time, it's normal and gives them a break from laying that helps them build up body reserves for when spring hits. So here are some things for your friend to consider before he kills them. And some ways to get them back into lay. Temperature- If the coop is too cold the chickens stop laying. I used to keep a heat lamp in my coop in the winters, and now there are safe ways to keep your coop warm. It doesn't need to be hot, just above freezing Light- Chickens lay eggs based on hours of light. This keeps them from trying to raise chicks in the winter. Having a light on in the coop is absolutely necessary in winter. I always keep a light on in the winter during the day. It helps them keep laying. Food- During winter it's colder and chickens need more feed to keep warm. If you arn't feeding them enough they will stop laying. I would buy cracked corn and sprinkle it in their litter. It helps get them moving and keeps them warm. Wet coop- If the litter they walk in is wet or soggy it's cold. It will make them cold and then they wont lay. I use wood shavings from the feed store and keep a good dry layer on top to keep their feetsies warm. Water- One day of no water can stop chickens from laying for a week. It takes a lot of water to create eggs. If the water is freezing the chickens aren't drinking. I use a water tank heater to keep it ice free. You can get them at feed stores or online. Cod liver oil- Cod liver oil is rich in vitamin D. We stop getting good amounts of vitamin D in the winter due to lack of sun. Could chickens laying be influenced on the amount of vitamin D in their bodies. It seems likely. I buy the cheap omega fish oil online in gel caps. For a 5 gallon waterer I would break about 4 pills in the trough. I always use an automatic waterer. Age- Chickens start laying at five months. After 2 years of age their laying rate drops. So if it's an old flock they wont lay as much. But considering they ALL stopped laying I would say it's because of it being winter. Moulting- If the chickens are moulting then they will stop laying. This is normal and healthy as there bodies need the extra reserves to stay warm and make new feathers. Breed- There are some breeds of chickens who cannot handle cold weather and will stop laying. I always choose breeds who are good winter layers. If you friend got the wrong breed then they may not lay well in winter but will start again in spring. My opinion is that they stopped laying due to the cold and lack of daylight. If your friend puts and light in, keeps the coop above freezing, feeds them extra and starts giving them fish oil they will probably start laying again. It will take a few weeks though. Remember that animals aren't machines. They have cycles of production and rest and this is necessary for their health. I have kept my chickens in lay all winter by doing the above. They don't lay as well as in summer, but I still get eggs. Wow! Awesome info, incredibly derailed and thorough. Thank you so much! Really great information. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79396918 United States 01/26/2021 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them I have old girls and they aren't laying now..but it is totally normal for chickens to not lay in the winter. It is about light, and temp, and protein levels. I supplement with dried mealworms in the winter and our girls get lots of veggie scraps from the kitchen. and they LOVE spaghetti. But no eggs quite yet. It's likely they will start laying again soon as the days are getting obviously longer. Quoting: drinking buddy Here's a great download for home remedies for true illnesses. [link to www.countryfarm-lifestyles.com (secure)] There are loads of great homesteading websites and youtube channels with info about raising backyard chickens as well. Awww....you sound like the best chicken owner ever. So wholesome! |
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User ID: 78987609 United States 01/26/2021 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them Obviously I don't know anything about raising chickens. But I'm just curious, why would you kill them because they are having trouble laying eggs??? Is that something that really happens? They stop laying eggs and then--off with their heads? Really? Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72540350 United States 01/26/2021 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them I love chickens ....and eggs....I know he's always taken the best care of these little guys, I'd hate to think he'd have to kill them. I guess he can't afford to keep them if they won't lay. Quoting: PresidentElect BlueStateRebel Is there any sickness that might cause this? Weather condition? WTF just stop buying food for them and let them forage for a while. Why the drastic measures? |
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User ID: 76539470 United States 01/26/2021 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them Am I the only tender hearted fool who would let any older non-laying hens live out their lives in peace and happiness and not kill them? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79984104 I totes would! We do. We had one that made it to 10. Sadly, we usually have some kind of predator break into the coop and kill a bunch every 5 or 6 years. "Violence simply is not radical enough, since it generally changes only the rulers but not the rules. What use is a revolution that fails to address the fundamental problem: the existence of domination in all its forms, and the myth of redemptive violence that perpetuates it?" - Walter Wink |
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User ID: 78244544 United States 01/26/2021 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them We have 8 chickens and they consistently lay unless they are molting. My wife is the genius on this and she’s always changing their feed. They did slow down when it starting getting cold, so she put tarps all the way around chickenworld to break the wind and the laying picked up again. My wife spends so much time with them she knows which egg comes from what chicken. Also I’ve seen people have recommended to use heat lamps, we have never used them, huge fire risk in our opinion. With a well insulated coup, chickens are fine. We do have a chicken coup cam to keep an eye on them 24/7 though. These chickens are our pets and we treat them like our cats and dogs, actually I’m surprised my wife doesn’t have them in the house with us. |
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(OP) User ID: 73724632 United States 01/26/2021 09:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them We have 8 chickens and they consistently lay unless they are molting. My wife is the genius on this and she’s always changing their feed. They did slow down when it starting getting cold, so she put tarps all the way around chickenworld to break the wind and the laying picked up again. My wife spends so much time with them she knows which egg comes from what chicken. Quoting: LOLYUSOMAD Also I’ve seen people have recommended to use heat lamps, we have never used them, huge fire risk in our opinion. With a well insulated coup, chickens are fine. We do have a chicken coup cam to keep an eye on them 24/7 though. These chickens are our pets and we treat them like our cats and dogs, actually I’m surprised my wife doesn’t have them in the house with us. OMG, that's so sweet that she knows them so well. I have another friend I haven't talked to for a couple of months who's a real chicken person - I'll have to ask her how her girls are doing. |
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(OP) User ID: 73724632 United States 01/26/2021 09:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them Obviously I don't know anything about raising chickens. Quoting: 1guynAz But I'm just curious, why would you kill them because they are having trouble laying eggs??? Is that something that really happens? They stop laying eggs and then--off with their heads? Really? This is my husband's friend and he's kind of a savage. Hubby says he's been talking about chicken pot pie a lot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46432626 United States 01/26/2021 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them It's a large flocks, several dozen chickens and they've ALL stopped laying. He says he's gonna have to kill them all. I don't know anything about this except it sounds rather apocalyptic. Quoting: PresidentElect BlueStateRebel Has anyone seen this before and do you have any advice? tell that n00b that chickens take a break in the winter until the sun gets them going again. He can put some sun lamps in the coup that turn on at 6am but the chickens DO need the break. |
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User ID: 73056755 United States 01/26/2021 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: NEED ADVICE: My friend's Entire Chicken Flock have stopped Laying - ANY IDEAS - He may have to kill them They are obviously shell shocked from being cooped up too long, and fearing layoffs. Last Edited by Monty Python on 01/27/2021 12:21 AM Monty Python's Flying Circus |