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Reddit posters proved today that the stock market, in fact all investment and trade markets are one colossal and elaborate Ponzi scheme

 
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Just put a few thousand into GME. More than happy to lose it all if hurts these guys.
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Just fucking hold it! Don’t get paper hands and sell !

In reality this could be a massive turnaround at GameStop.
Chewie CEO is on the board and has 15%stake in it. It’s not folding. I could see it be turned around into something.

I like this stonk. All. Day. Long.

Don’t listen to me. I don’t know what I’m doing.
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what kind of idiot are you? A stock price makes the stock holders rich or poor not the company. It is a reflection of the company and the reality of a worthless company is a worthless stock price.

It only helps the company if they can raise new money, if either a bank or others are prepared to buy more stocks from a new public offering or are able to raise funds from new borrowings.

None of this is going to happen so no, it is not going to help the companies one iota. Everyone is just using them to play games.
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Really?
You think the company doesnt own any of it's own shares???
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This thread anti-semetic.

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Wouldn’t it be weird if this was a white hat operation and was done to show the world the stock market is a ponzi scheme??

Wouldn’t it be even weirder if it was a black hat operation to help show the world that a “new” financial system was needed this furthering the great reset?

Life is weird.
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I think we all knew it was a ponzi scheme, though.

Our grandparents knew it, parents, etc ...

Just like gambling, yada yada

it's great though

we need more of this ... this is the kind of chaos that changes things, not looting a Target
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We need the UN to come help us fix it.
The Chinese seem to have it figured it out. They have billions of people living in harmony. We should ask them for help.
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The Chinese are all one Race. Easy fix; end racism.
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I understand the game perfectly well. I am not saying it isn't a fun game, I am just saying it will end in tears. Those coordinating it are breaking laws.

Just wait........... 3 2 1 ,,,,,,,,,,,
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It’s not coordinated. It’s all out in the open. It was public knowledge. Unlike what Mel vin and cit Ron we’re doing.

It’s a bunch of people saying “I like this store. I like this stonk.
I don’t like Wall Street. “
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78958574



It was public knowledge that we are going to ramp up the stock price to ensure the margin calls on the short positions are executed.

If it was such public knowledge then why are there short positions??

Someone started the "public knowledge" There were a "few" who bought first while encouraging others to follow.

Do you understand that deliberately ramping a stock price is deemed illegal?? Especially when these early investors trying to break these hedge funds sell out and take huge profits.

Don't believe me? Just wait.........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148


And how is these hedge funds betting billions for or against a stock not manipulation?

Everybody sees those bets and it manipulates the price.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76593049


Throughout the years speculation and especially short selling has been banned. Then as time passes it gets allowed again.

The difference is that a hedge fund is deemed to be a single player. No different to when someone broke the bank of England, Soros?

[link to www.investopedia.com (secure)]

He was also a single player.

Single people are allowed to do whatever they want just like a gas station putting up or lowering their gas prices.

When multiple people collude to do something, when multiple gas stations or gas companies decide to put their prices up simultaneously it becomes collusion and is illegal. Price fixing and all the like. When BP and Shell and others are communicating with each other and working together to manipulate the market.

They are allowed to work alone but not in unison.

The issue is that here you have multiple players colluding to ramp the price, not a single player and that is going to be a huge issue.
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It’s not coordinated. It’s all out in the open. It was public knowledge. Unlike what Mel vin and cit Ron we’re doing.

It’s a bunch of people saying “I like this store. I like this stonk.
I don’t like Wall Street. “
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78958574



It was public knowledge that we are going to ramp up the stock price to ensure the margin calls on the short positions are executed.

If it was such public knowledge then why are there short positions??

Someone started the "public knowledge" There were a "few" who bought first while encouraging others to follow.

Do you understand that deliberately ramping a stock price is deemed illegal?? Especially when these early investors trying to break these hedge funds sell out and take huge profits.

Don't believe me? Just wait.........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148


And how is these hedge funds betting billions for or against a stock not manipulation?

Everybody sees those bets and it manipulates the price.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76593049


Throughout the years speculation and especially short selling has been banned. Then as time passes it gets allowed again.

The difference is that a hedge fund is deemed to be a single player. No different to when someone broke the bank of England, Soros?

[link to www.investopedia.com (secure)]

He was also a single player.

Single people are allowed to do whatever they want just like a gas station putting up or lowering their gas prices.

When multiple people collude to do something, when multiple gas stations or gas companies decide to put their prices up simultaneously it becomes collusion and is illegal. Price fixing and all the like. When BP and Shell and others are communicating with each other and working together to manipulate the market.

They are allowed to work alone but not in unison.

The issue is that here you have multiple players colluding to ramp the price, not a single player and that is going to be a huge issue.
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It's not an issue.

Congress does it all the time.
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Disestablishmentarinism baby. Bring it down
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Disestablishmentarinism baby. Bring it down
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^^ this

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It’s not coordinated. It’s all out in the open. It was public knowledge. Unlike what Mel vin and cit Ron we’re doing.

It’s a bunch of people saying “I like this store. I like this stonk.
I don’t like Wall Street. “
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78958574



It was public knowledge that we are going to ramp up the stock price to ensure the margin calls on the short positions are executed.

If it was such public knowledge then why are there short positions??

Someone started the "public knowledge" There were a "few" who bought first while encouraging others to follow.

Do you understand that deliberately ramping a stock price is deemed illegal?? Especially when these early investors trying to break these hedge funds sell out and take huge profits.

Don't believe me? Just wait.........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148

It's not illegal.

 Quoting: CosmicFire


It doesn't matter. They will have their patsy.
 Quoting: Weyoun


YES, it is illegal

[link to www.financetalking.com (secure)]
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Amc, gme, koss, naked and others are going to cost these billionaires massive money this Friday

Bring them down
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Why Friday? Second person who’s mentioned Friday as some sort of deadline
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If you haven’t got an answer yet, Friday is when all these Options contracts expire for a specific stock, so essentially.. what these hedge funds did was hold down these companies buy purchasing Option Put contracts and Shorting the stock through equities, what WSB is doing and all the retail investors who jumped on board are causing these “shorts” (the hedge funds) to cover their positions buy buying “Long” on a position by either purchasing Option Call contracts or going Long will be forced to cover their positions-and /or Hedge their original investment! This is what a Short Squeeze is, it’s why you see the big jumps up, forcing shorts to cover and buy long, will make the stock soar!
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Fuck the system! it is all rigged in favor of the 1 percenters. My eyes are now open. Thank you, Reddit Posters for opening my eyes to this evil system!
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Reddit link?
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Fuck the system! it is all rigged in favor of the 1 percenters. My eyes are now open. Thank you, Reddit Posters for opening my eyes to this evil system!
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Reddit link?
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I read that the reddit went private.

That's an even better twist.
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It’s not coordinated. It’s all out in the open. It was public knowledge. Unlike what Mel vin and cit Ron we’re doing.

It’s a bunch of people saying “I like this store. I like this stonk.
I don’t like Wall Street. “
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78958574



It was public knowledge that we are going to ramp up the stock price to ensure the margin calls on the short positions are executed.

If it was such public knowledge then why are there short positions??

Someone started the "public knowledge" There were a "few" who bought first while encouraging others to follow.

Do you understand that deliberately ramping a stock price is deemed illegal?? Especially when these early investors trying to break these hedge funds sell out and take huge profits.

Don't believe me? Just wait.........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148


And how is these hedge funds betting billions for or against a stock not manipulation?

Everybody sees those bets and it manipulates the price.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76593049


Throughout the years speculation and especially short selling has been banned. Then as time passes it gets allowed again.

The difference is that a hedge fund is deemed to be a single player. No different to when someone broke the bank of England, Soros?

[link to www.investopedia.com (secure)]

He was also a single player.

Single people are allowed to do whatever they want just like a gas station putting up or lowering their gas prices.

When multiple people collude to do something, when multiple gas stations or gas companies decide to put their prices up simultaneously it becomes collusion and is illegal. Price fixing and all the like. When BP and Shell and others are communicating with each other and working together to manipulate the market.

They are allowed to work alone but not in unison.

The issue is that here you have multiple players colluding to ramp the price, not a single player and that is going to be a huge issue.
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It was public knowledge that we are going to ramp up the stock price to ensure the margin calls on the short positions are executed.

If it was such public knowledge then why are there short positions??

Someone started the "public knowledge" There were a "few" who bought first while encouraging others to follow.

Do you understand that deliberately ramping a stock price is deemed illegal?? Especially when these early investors trying to break these hedge funds sell out and take huge profits.

Don't believe me? Just wait.........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148

It's not illegal.

 Quoting: CosmicFire


It doesn't matter. They will have their patsy.
 Quoting: Weyoun


YES, it is illegal

[link to www.financetalking.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148


No it’s not Illegal, nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything, these website are set up with disclaimers! And what is posted are ticker names and positions posters take as their own
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What doesn’t make sense to me is why would so many hedge funds have short interest in GME? Sure it’s dog crap, but the price was destroyed and had been stabilizing for quite some time. In my opinion that is a bad technical decision that they know better than to make. This reeks of a rug pull.
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They weren't counting on being gamed by redddit. It was a hedge fund dog pile with a free pay out.

So now there's a vulnerability that will be used to clobber the shorts.

Expect new rules fast.
 Quoting: CosmicFire


Expect your new Chinese masters aren't going to make those rules against the hedge funds either.
Embrace the cognitive dissonance.
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The margin call is 7 days.

This means that the Hedge Funds have to "Buy" the stocks they shorted at the current price. If they can keep the value up even double or triple the original value, the Hedge fund will loose HUNDREDS of BILLIONS. 5a
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In light of what I posted above...truth be told, I think the sting WSB has going on is a diversion for something else.

The elites OWN the entire market.

Something about this whole mess smells like shit.

If I had to guess, I'd have to say something wicked this way comes. I'm reminded of that old thread about putting on adult diapers and vomiting with fear.

Get right with God, get right with your significant others, family, friends, etc....this is the best advice that I can give to you right now and time is of the essence.
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Of course, I wouldn't be so bold as to think that the mindless fools on this site to understand what I've written.

Any concept posted that is a cut above mindless drivel will be lost on the great unwashed masses.

I could be wrong tho. I doubt it so let's see what happens from this point forward...
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bump
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I had posted on here two months ago about how if enough people refused to hold twitter , facebook , and other big tech companies that censor could be dramaticly affected and the little guy could overtake the hedge funds . The responce was could never happen. Well it can.
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Just put a few thousand into GME. More than happy to lose it all if hurts these guys.
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Just fucking hold it! Don’t get paper hands and sell !

In reality this could be a massive turnaround at GameStop.
Chewie CEO is on the board and has 15%stake in it. It’s not folding. I could see it be turned around into something.

I like this stonk. All. Day. Long.

Don’t listen to me. I don’t know what I’m doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78958574


what kind of idiot are you? A stock price makes the stock holders rich or poor not the company. It is a reflection of the company and the reality of a worthless company is a worthless stock price.

It only helps the company if they can raise new money, if either a bank or others are prepared to buy more stocks from a new public offering or are able to raise funds from new borrowings.

None of this is going to happen so no, it is not going to help the companies one iota. Everyone is just using them to play games.
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Really?
You think the company doesnt own any of it's own shares???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77690588


A company is not allowed to own stocks in itself. Individuals employed by the company or the board of directors can own shares but they are not the company, they are individuals and not one of them will sell their shares and give the money to the company.
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We've been duped how many times here? I sort of feel this is another one.

If the little guy takes down the stock market then relishes in his accomplishments, it's a win right?

But is it? Isn't the end of one thing a beginning of another. Like NWO...
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What collusion?

Individual sees stock go up or down

Individual decides to buy or not
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It was public knowledge that we are going to ramp up the stock price to ensure the margin calls on the short positions are executed.

If it was such public knowledge then why are there short positions??

Someone started the "public knowledge" There were a "few" who bought first while encouraging others to follow.

Do you understand that deliberately ramping a stock price is deemed illegal?? Especially when these early investors trying to break these hedge funds sell out and take huge profits.

Don't believe me? Just wait.........
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148

It's not illegal.

 Quoting: CosmicFire


It doesn't matter. They will have their patsy.
 Quoting: Weyoun


YES, it is illegal

[link to www.financetalking.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148

I like this Stock.

:shrug:

Not illegal.

Not one person went to jail for destroying the economy in 2008, sooo...

:fuckyou:
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It's not illegal.

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It doesn't matter. They will have their patsy.
 Quoting: Weyoun


YES, it is illegal

[link to www.financetalking.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148


No it’s not Illegal, nobody is forcing anyone to buy anything, these website are set up with disclaimers! And what is posted are ticker names and positions posters take as their own
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Hopefully your ignorance will be taken into account by the courts
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Just put a few thousand into GME. More than happy to lose it all if hurts these guys.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79895950


Just fucking hold it! Don’t get paper hands and sell !

In reality this could be a massive turnaround at GameStop.
Chewie CEO is on the board and has 15%stake in it. It’s not folding. I could see it be turned around into something.

I like this stonk. All. Day. Long.

Don’t listen to me. I don’t know what I’m doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78958574


what kind of idiot are you? A stock price makes the stock holders rich or poor not the company. It is a reflection of the company and the reality of a worthless company is a worthless stock price.

It only helps the company if they can raise new money, if either a bank or others are prepared to buy more stocks from a new public offering or are able to raise funds from new borrowings.

None of this is going to happen so no, it is not going to help the companies one iota. Everyone is just using them to play games.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148




Really?
You think the company doesnt own any of it's own shares???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77690588


Your both missing the point this is about bankrupting a hedge fund. The people vested could careless about game stop they will pull out after the contracts are due and move to the next short.
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It’s been extremely obvious for a long time that the system is rigged in favor of the 1%.

Another fun fact: most of those ‘1%ers’(if not all) have sold their souls to Satan or another malevolent entity in some way. And they don’t want the normal people who haven’t sold their souls being able to win in a system designed to serve the wicked.
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Fuck the system! it is all rigged in favor of the 1 percenters. My eyes are now open. Thank you, Reddit Posters for opening my eyes to this evil system!
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Occupy Wallstreet 2.0

The Fed and Wallstreet are the same. They rely on all Americans accepting the dollar for their labor/production while Wallstreet and the Fed violate the arrangement with endless money printing (inflation at our expense, not theirs) and selling us out (globalization).

They are traitors. All Americans should want Occupy 2.0 and no American should be stupid enough to be divided by their politics again on this issue and we sure as hell should not be fooled into tolerating their idea of a “great reset”.

The Fed needs to die, Wallstreet needs to be dismantled, globalism needs to be wiped out, and we need to never be slaves to a fiat currency of any kind again.
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Just fucking hold it! Don’t get paper hands and sell !

In reality this could be a massive turnaround at GameStop.
Chewie CEO is on the board and has 15%stake in it. It’s not folding. I could see it be turned around into something.

I like this stonk. All. Day. Long.

Don’t listen to me. I don’t know what I’m doing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78958574


what kind of idiot are you? A stock price makes the stock holders rich or poor not the company. It is a reflection of the company and the reality of a worthless company is a worthless stock price.

It only helps the company if they can raise new money, if either a bank or others are prepared to buy more stocks from a new public offering or are able to raise funds from new borrowings.

None of this is going to happen so no, it is not going to help the companies one iota. Everyone is just using them to play games.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148




Really?
You think the company doesnt own any of it's own shares???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77690588


Your both missing the point this is about bankrupting a hedge fund. The people vested could careless about game stop they will pull out after the contracts are due and move to the next short.
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EXACTLY

and you think such market manipulation, ramping a price for the sole purpose of being bought out at ??? $1,000 a share ??? is not market manipulation? is not ramping? is not illegal?

Just wait
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It's not illegal.

 Quoting: CosmicFire


It doesn't matter. They will have their patsy.
 Quoting: Weyoun


YES, it is illegal

[link to www.financetalking.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79951148

I like this Stock.

shrug

Not illegal.

Not one person went to jail for destroying the economy in 2008, sooo...

fuckyou
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So the FCC is going to hold a poster on a forum accountable in the mob. Just watch also FCC only has investigative powers over financial institutions, right? Maybe some Fed law but I don’t think market manipulation transfers well. I don’t think they can hold anyone accountable it was a hive that promoted an idea on an independent forum.
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You realize this is going to tank your 401k and pensions.

worthless stocks should not be at $300

this has nothing to do with gamestop
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Re: Reddit posters proved today that the stock market, in fact all investment and trade markets are one colossal and elaborate Ponzi scheme
Thread: Sell big tech stocks if you want censorship to stop. A movement we can all get behind

I told you the little guy can overtake the big boys .
Now this is how you stop big tech censorship .
Stone crusher





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