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General Motors to Abandon Internal Combustion Engines | |
| Overgoverned
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| A Jackson
User ID: 75995679  Netherlands01/28/2021 05:42 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fuck electric Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78881754 they suck they kill the environment more than any internal combustion engine ever has, if you disagree you are quite ignorant still on the subject matter and parroting a narrative of lies fuck GM, they suck at everything anyway They indirectly kill thousands of people of color mining cobalt. Also, gasoline is almost perfect as a fuel. Lots of energy per gallon, it’s clean, easily transported. You can fill up in a few minutes and drive 400 miles. Electric cars are OK as commuter vehicles. They won’t work as a truck. Smoke me a kipper, I’ll be back for breakfast. If you do not take an interest in the affairs of your government, then you are doomed to live under the rule of fools. — Plato “AI is kind of a fancy thing, first of all it’s two letters. It means artificial intelligence.” Kamala Harris VPOTUS |
| Overgoverned
(OP) User ID: 76000379 United States01/28/2021 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fuck electric Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78881754 they suck they kill the environment more than any internal combustion engine ever has, if you disagree you are quite ignorant still on the subject matter and parroting a narrative of lies fuck GM, they suck at everything anyway Don't get me wrong . . . I'm not celebrating the non-efficiency and non-environmental-friendliness of this development. I've never bought anything new, and by 2035, I'm sorta doubtful I'll be buying anything new-to-me. I will, in all likelihood, be marveling at the durability and versatility of the Honda Element. And bitching that its oil filter should be more easily accessible. |
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| beeches
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73787663 United States01/28/2021 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | have to,oil will be gone by 2035,smartest business decision gm has made in many years. bio oil will carry the future demand for gasoline but its a hard slog.very tight margins. unless a miracle happens,im about to pour 4 grand into a 94 camaro and hope it last until i die of old age. if you get a chance at an electric,you better take it.million mile potential. |
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| FeralOne
User ID: 79777736 United States01/28/2021 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fuck electric Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78881754 they suck they kill the environment more than any internal combustion engine ever has, if you disagree you are quite ignorant still on the subject matter and parroting a narrative of lies fuck GM, they suck at everything anyway Don't get me wrong . . . I'm not celebrating the non-efficiency and non-environmental-friendliness of this development. I've never bought anything new, and by 2035, I'm sorta doubtful I'll be buying anything new-to-me. I will, in all likelihood, be marveling at the durability and versatility of the Honda Element. And bitching that its oil filter should be more easily accessible. Just mount a remote filter while you're flexible enough to do so. I'm sure you'll find a way. |
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| FeralOne
User ID: 79777736 United States01/28/2021 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | have to,oil will be gone by 2035,smartest business decision gm has made in many years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73787663 bio oil will carry the future demand for gasoline but its a hard slog.very tight margins. unless a miracle happens,im about to pour 4 grand into a 94 camaro and hope it last until i die of old age. if you get a chance at an electric,you better take it.million mile potential. A good, SIMPLE, electric car or truck could be designed, with a range extender trailer or hitch attachment. Something with at most one computer with open source, a panel of steam gauges and totally maintainable for the next 200 years. Something with no unnecessary electronics at all. Of course, if you want it you'll have to DIY. Some states still allow you to register a scratch built car. |
| FeralOne
User ID: 79777736 United States01/28/2021 06:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last GM I owned burned a quart of oil a week , they are doing us a favor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79981835 Mine does that, but it's got 355K on the original drive train with minimal maintenance. I'll keep driving it until it's not useful and then switch in the backup car. That one only has 135K on it. Of course, GM realized their mistake and stopped producing that line in 2002. |
| thetrickybigguy
User ID: 79556664 United States01/28/2021 06:22 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last GM I owned burned a quart of oil a week , they are doing us a favor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79981835 Mine does that, but it's got 355K on the original drive train with minimal maintenance. I'll keep driving it until it's not useful and then switch in the backup car. That one only has 135K on it. Of course, GM realized their mistake and stopped producing that line in 2002. i have a 1997 toyota avalon that has almost 488K and it barely uses a half quart of oil every 5K miles. Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~ Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~ Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~ Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poloi' in Greek meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.~ “When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.” If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain. Winston Churchill |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27925949 United States01/28/2021 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I suggest not to with the exception of high quality durable multi-fuel micro-turbines that can serve as range extenders for electric vehicles. Synopsis: My first video blog in a series about complex engineering marvels that are going to change the world in the (near) future. This week's piece? Micro gas turbines being used as generators to recharge electric drive trains in commercial vehicles. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79104722 United States01/28/2021 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing wrong with electric. We're a long ways away from Leafs and Imevs. Quoting: CosmicFire Except the devastation it has on the environment. Drilling for oil is much safer and cheaper. Smiles everytime you whack the gas pedal. try driving a mitsubishi lancer evo for the same effect. Plenty of high performance cars without a fraction of the problems Tesla's have. Also any mechanic can work on gas engines, elon will not share repair information with the auto repair community, like every other car manufacture does |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77640440 United States01/28/2021 07:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing wrong with electric. We're a long ways away from Leafs and Imevs. Quoting: CosmicFire Except the devastation it has on the environment. Drilling for oil is much safer and cheaper. Smiles everytime you whack the gas pedal. try driving a mitsubishi lancer evo for the same effect. Plenty of high performance cars without a fraction of the problems Tesla's have. Also any mechanic can work on gas engines, elon will not share repair information with the auto repair community, like every other car manufacture does Tesla does suck from the repair side. But it's still an automobile. Nuts and bolts hold it together, wrenches take it apart. Nothing exotic about the motor or batteries, either. Tesla is a new car company, and is learning as they go. Part of the game. Every manufacturer ends up with a little egg on their face with new models. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77640440 United States01/28/2021 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ooop. Forgot about the Ford. Quoting: CosmicFire gimmicky trash. Batteries won't last and range will be trash. Gasoline and diesel are king Batteries do last. There's quite a few 2012 Volts in the 200k-400k mile range, with no appreciable range loss. My '13 Volt just hit 150,000 and I'm not seeing any issues from the battery. It was a mother fucker to put a radiator in, though.  |
| FeralOne
User ID: 79777736 United States01/28/2021 07:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The last GM I owned burned a quart of oil a week , they are doing us a favor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79981835 Mine does that, but it's got 355K on the original drive train with minimal maintenance. I'll keep driving it until it's not useful and then switch in the backup car. That one only has 135K on it. Of course, GM realized their mistake and stopped producing that line in 2002. i have a 1997 toyota avalon that has almost 488K and it barely uses a half quart of oil every 5K miles. Good deal. Mine might burn oil, but I got it for free, along with the backup. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79017631 United States01/28/2021 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The real future for energy will be hydrogen. It's more readily available than nearly anything on earth and proof of concept vehicles have already been tested. It's also as clean as can be. The main source will be splitting hydrogen from water, leaving oxygen as the only byproduct |
