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Ahem...

Those Stock-Market numbers are about as real as Creepo-JHoe's overwhelming Election-Win / FRAUD.
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A mistake many are making is assuming that what is going on is "Investing". This about gaming a fixed system, turning the tools of the Elite against themselves, destroying the Death Star and making some bank while doing it.....

F'ing over Naked-Shorts

SLV is next...... Buy it up
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I do not know if it is SLV or PSLV they are going for.
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Read the comments on SLV
[link to www.finviz.com (secure)]
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$SLV $PSLV $AG Buy Buy Buy Physical Silver, then attack ETF’s and Futures. When you buy retail physical silver the dealers have to go and cover that on the market. And it’s this transaction that causes the price to go up. They can stop you from buying stocks but They can’t stop retail buying
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Buying the SLV trust is how to get your money out when the price starts to go way way up. SLV is a sliver trust tied directly to spot price. The physical buys and withdraws are going to crush the funds that keep it so artificially low..
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Ahem...

Those Stock-Market numbers are about as real as Creepo-JHoe's overwhelming Election-Win / FRAUD.
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Yes, this about exposing those fake numbers by gaming their system. Silver is Naked-Shorted worst than any stock out there. When the buy starts hard..... Gamestop will look like nothing compared to this carnage....
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Nobody cares about the fundamentals they're just trying to ride the rocket as long as possible before it falls back to earth.
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Why should people pay off their debts when the US Govt will not pay off its debts, but will rather monetize the debts.

Hyperinflation is coming.

When? Who knows. But the process is in motion. Nothing can stop it now, short of backing the currency with precious metals that the gov't doesn't have.
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What are some of the things you expect hyperinflation will bring?

How will it impact debt from loans, credit cards, student loans?
How will it create opportunity to make money?
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Hyperinflation usually results in high interest rates so any variable rate debt like a credit card balance would max out the rate it charges.

In true hyperinflation? People get paid daily or even twice a day, prices escalate that quickly.

Loan amounts outstanding would, be definition, become "cheaper" as wages/salaries escalate to at least try to keep pace with inflation rates.

Businesses run into shrinking margins because it's tough to keep prices escalating fast enough to maintain profits.

Marginal businesses, large and small, typically are driven out of business so unemployment escalates quickly.

"Making money" is tough because you're trying to get ahead by accumulating something that's rapidly losing value. It's like chasing a bus you're never going to catch as it speeds down the road.

Lending tends to shrink, too much risk for lenders to voluntarily assume without hefty safety margins for increasing bad debts.

If you owe $10,000 on a student loan and you make
$50,000 per year you'll find that in a year you owe $10,000 minus any payments you've made but you're now making $70,000 per year so you've got more dollars available to pay that debt.

People "want" to borrow because they know they'll be paying back the debt with "cheaper" dollars.
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I'm glad so many people are learning about and exploring the markets, but there is a lot more to investing than "diamond hands" and "HODL!!1!"

None of this is investment advice, just my personal opinion and approach to it all.

GME was an anomaly with 130-140% short float. This is not very common and allowed it to be skyrocketed "to the moon." They caught a hedge fund with their pants down. AMC and many of the others are nowhere near this level of shorting, which means they don't have same potential upside.

Holding to short squeeze is fine and an awesome way to stick it to the man, but it is all artificial and has just as much downside when unexpected things happen like government intervention (Which could come soon, even today). If you are willing to lose money to make a point, then HODL! If not, learn to read charts and understand the market.

Look at historical charts, such as the 1yr, 3yr, and 5yr highs and lows. Nothing fundamentally changed with these companies aside from the lulz, so expecting AMC to hit $50-100+ is not realistic. Their pre-covid price was around $6.50-7. Their 3yr high was only around $20. Their 5yr was $33-34.

Look for resistance. It was clear that the AMC resistance was around $15. It would struggle to climb much higher each time $15 was approached. This often means that is the highest point it will hit. You can never time dips and peaks perfectly. Resistance data is the best indicator you can use. I was able to buy at $8-9 and sell at $14-ish the first time, and then when news of opening up trading again came out when it had fallen back to $8-9 that was time to buy back in and ride it back to $15. That was almost 400% gains, but it required absolutely NOT HODLing and diamond hands. It required trading and understanding the data.

A great book to start to learn is The Bogglehead's Guide to Investing. It is skewed to starting with index funds, which is safe and conservative advice, but isn't going to bring in massive gains. It also doesn't involve massive risk. Things like cost-averaging are also great strategies. Rather than trying to perfectly time things, you buy on the way down in smaller chunks and sell on the way up in smaller chunks. Once you have recouped your initial investment or pulled out some profit, then the rest of the shares are play money and can be gambled with no risk.

In normal investing, "diamond hands" and non-emotional trading are key. Losses are only on paper until you actually sell. In meme investing, diamond hands are a surefire way to lose massive gains. I can't hope to cover everything in one post, but I'm happy to offer info and opinions to anyone that has any real questions. Limit orders, stops, market orders, etc. There is a lot to it and knowing more than what I see on various sites and forums being thrown around is really important if you are seriously trying to invest or make money.
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I actually paper traded, today in front of all my family, been a Day trader for many years! Lost my ass in short selling! I time stamped my ins and outs! Made over 2 million dollars! Thieves wants to stifle these people,when actually they been doing it to us all these years It is funny how their lies will and have been revealed! God Bless America!
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GME was an anomaly with 130-140% short float. This is not very common...
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bsflag

Bull-fucking-shit.

Not only is it common, Robert David Steele has been going on about it for years and has an entire website about it.

WE ARE ON TO YOUR BULLSHIT, STOP TREATING US LIKE FOOLS, THE JOKE IS ON YOU NOW!!!
You best start believing in conspiracy theories, you're living in one!
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APES TOGETHER STRONG
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Actual info from an investor
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anybody who invests is an 'investor'.

anyone who invests knows at least, the very basics.

you have disclosed nothing here that isn't common knowledge.

"actual info".... this statement is laughable.

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It must be interesting to have enough FAKE money to throw-it into a NWO, BQMTJ, Insider, CASINO scam.

Poor people have to throw their FAKE shit into slot-machines, and cheap card-games.

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I grew up very poor. I've worked since 14. I saved money like crazy and used my skills to make extra money or start small businesses where I could. I opened my first trading account with $2,500 (the minimum at the time). I have kept that same account open and separate from my other accounts to see what I could turn it into as I learned more and grew. It is now around $60k. If a kid that was helping to pay for and support his family could save $2,500, anyone can. That is a Starbucks a day for a year cut out. Or a subscription service cut out for one year. Instead of slot machines, lottos, etc. put that money into a bank account and open a trading account within a year.
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dude you ain’t an investor, you’re a daytrader aka gambler. Don’t share your winning stories if you ain’t gonna share your losing ones either.
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So just sell? fu
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I'm glad so many people are learning about and exploring the markets, but there is a lot more to investing than "diamond hands" and "HODL!!1!"

None of this is investment advice, just my personal opinion and approach to it all.

GME was an anomaly with 130-140% short float. This is not very common and allowed it to be skyrocketed "to the moon." They caught a hedge fund with their pants down. AMC and many of the others are nowhere near this level of shorting, which means they don't have same potential upside.

Holding to short squeeze is fine and an awesome way to stick it to the man, but it is all artificial and has just as much downside when unexpected things happen like government intervention (Which could come soon, even today). If you are willing to lose money to make a point, then HODL! If not, learn to read charts and understand the market.

Look at historical charts, such as the 1yr, 3yr, and 5yr highs and lows. Nothing fundamentally changed with these companies aside from the lulz, so expecting AMC to hit $50-100+ is not realistic. Their pre-covid price was around $6.50-7. Their 3yr high was only around $20. Their 5yr was $33-34.

Look for resistance. It was clear that the AMC resistance was around $15. It would struggle to climb much higher each time $15 was approached. This often means that is the highest point it will hit. You can never time dips and peaks perfectly. Resistance data is the best indicator you can use. I was able to buy at $8-9 and sell at $14-ish the first time, and then when news of opening up trading again came out when it had fallen back to $8-9 that was time to buy back in and ride it back to $15. That was almost 400% gains, but it required absolutely NOT HODLing and diamond hands. It required trading and understanding the data.

A great book to start to learn is The Bogglehead's Guide to Investing. It is skewed to starting with index funds, which is safe and conservative advice, but isn't going to bring in massive gains. It also doesn't involve massive risk. Things like cost-averaging are also great strategies. Rather than trying to perfectly time things, you buy on the way down in smaller chunks and sell on the way up in smaller chunks. Once you have recouped your initial investment or pulled out some profit, then the rest of the shares are play money and can be gambled with no risk.

In normal investing, "diamond hands" and non-emotional trading are key. Losses are only on paper until you actually sell. In meme investing, diamond hands are a surefire way to lose massive gains. I can't hope to cover everything in one post, but I'm happy to offer info and opinions to anyone that has any real questions. Limit orders, stops, market orders, etc. There is a lot to it and knowing more than what I see on various sites and forums being thrown around is really important if you are seriously trying to invest or make money.
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Too long didn't read all I read was buy more game stock rocketship I eat crayons not financial advice-
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All this has proven is that the big well connected guys own the Casio and when the little guys use the same rules as the big connected guys

... that the government will step in and make them whole while finding a way to punish the little guy

They make billions and if the little guys aren't content with the crumbs that drop from the fat & rich plates, then they make sure to destroy those uppity sob's

Imagine how upset we the peons will be when the new communist in charge come for the 401's & IRA's ...

... because it isn't fair we've saved for 40+ years and the poor couldn't

The clock is winding down....
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BillyBob's Guide to Stonk Market Investing

Step #1

Realize via the most brutal manner possible that There are no institutionalized unmanipulated 'markets'

Step #2

neo

chuckle
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BillyBob probably has a basement full of phone booths and vending machines.
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True, a professional shill would know to change their eye pee before replying agreement to themselves.

lolatu
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Or, I was on my iPad and didn't realize it wasn't signed in.
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Yeah... thanks for the advice. The advice that any novice could give. OOOOOHHHH look at the five year and watch the trend...DEERRRRRRR....

You may be an investor, but not a good one and definitely not a day trader.
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I know you are an AC, but you seem to have missed the fact that my goal was to explain some basic concepts to newcomers. I worked in banking at the officer level for 12 years. I have had my own Bloomberg terminal. I could explain esoteric and complex concepts, but that isn't going to help anyone. In fact, the information I mentioned there is enough for almost all investors to do fine for themselves without ever getting into overlays and various theories and concepts. If someone has specific questions, I said I was happy to answer. There is a massive chasm between the constant "HODL!" and "Diamond Hands!" and even what I wrote here. It is a primer for newcomers to have some actual information and not people with their own motives or wanting them to hold their bag for them.
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I appreciate your thread OP! I was thinking earlier this morning I had questions but wasn't sure where to direct them. Just want to mention I did order the book that you recommended. I have no experience with the stock market.

Do you have to work with a broker? Pay monthly fees?

Also, not really interested in long term so much as I am older : )

Do you have to have a lot of money to begin with?

Could someone invest with something as minimal as $10,000?

Does it take many years to get to the point where you are making monthly profits? Is that even feasible if you are not younger?

I'm not asking you to wave a magic wand. I realize there are risks in everything. Just basic questions.

Thank you for your time hf
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dude you ain’t an investor, you’re a daytrader aka gambler. Don’t share your winning stories if you ain’t gonna share your losing ones either.
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I do day trade and I also invest. I have never had a negative year. I can show my SigFig monthlies for over 10 years. The lowest year I have ever had was an 18% gain and that was the housing crash. I also hold long on a bunch of dividend stocks, AAPL, biotech, foreign investments, and blue chips. I have had massive losses at times, they just have been offset by gains. CTIC and Chesapeake Energy were two. I am crazy long on an insane gamble in FNMA. It may never pay off, but if it does, I'll be buying a private island. I've had paper losses of over $20k a day yesterday and today because of the volatility in the market. That is when to HODL and have diamond hands.
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I appreciate your thread OP! I was thinking earlier this morning I had questions but wasn't sure where to direct them. Just want to mention I did order the book that you recommended. I have no experience with the stock market.

Do you have to work with a broker? Pay monthly fees?

Also, not really interested in long term so much as I am older : )

Do you have to have a lot of money to begin with?

Could someone invest with something as minimal as $10,000?

Does it take many years to get to the point where you are making monthly profits? Is that even feasible if you are not younger?

I'm not asking you to wave a magic wand. I realize there are risks in everything. Just basic questions.

Thank you for your time hf
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Thanks, glad it was helpful to someone! Do not use a Broker. Get an online account like TD Ameritrade, Fidelity, etc. Also open a Vanguard account. You can open both I think for $2,500 (I haven't opened a new account in over a decade so I have no idea what it is now). I started with $2,500 and that Bogglehead's Guide and taught myself as I went, I eventually worked in banking and soaked up as much knowledge as I could from the Raymond James guys we had daily.

$10k probably won't supplement much income monthly, but don't worry about that. Diversify into some funds or an index fund, some high dividend stocks, some super solid boring stocks, some risky high reward plays, and then some penny stock gambles. It all depends on how much you need that money and how much time you have. Time is the biggest variable. Trend safer if the money matters to you and you don't expect big gains and don't have time to heal wounds from any big losses. Trend riskier if you don't care about the money and don't have a lot of time and just want to gamble.

I always recommend using a fake trading website where you trade with fake money (and don't earn anything). After you read that book, open a fake trading account on one of the sites designed to teach you. Start with $10k in fake money and make your buys, then watch it over some time and see how you do. You will likely lose a fair bit. Learn from that and then try again, see if things improve. If so, then start to dabble. The most important things from what I originally mentioned are not buying in large chunks at once. Cost-average buying and selling.
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You dont Get It.

I could train you, 30 years in the markets,
Its a movement. Against Financial Tyranny.

F- Em!

BUY and hold SILVER now. The antifiat.


I'm glad so many people are learning about and exploring the markets, but there is a lot more to investing than "diamond hands" and "HODL!!1!"

None of this is investment advice, just my personal opinion and approach to it all.

GME was an anomaly with 130-140% short float. This is not very common and allowed it to be skyrocketed "to the moon." They caught a hedge fund with their pants down. AMC and many of the others are nowhere near this level of shorting, which means they don't have same potential upside.

Holding to short squeeze is fine and an awesome way to stick it to the man, but it is all artificial and has just as much downside when unexpected things happen like government intervention (Which could come soon, even today). If you are willing to lose money to make a point, then HODL! If not, learn to read charts and understand the market.

Look at historical charts, such as the 1yr, 3yr, and 5yr highs and lows. Nothing fundamentally changed with these companies aside from the lulz, so expecting AMC to hit $50-100+ is not realistic. Their pre-covid price was around $6.50-7. Their 3yr high was only around $20. Their 5yr was $33-34.

Look for resistance. It was clear that the AMC resistance was around $15. It would struggle to climb much higher each time $15 was approached. This often means that is the highest point it will hit. You can never time dips and peaks perfectly. Resistance data is the best indicator you can use. I was able to buy at $8-9 and sell at $14-ish the first time, and then when news of opening up trading again came out when it had fallen back to $8-9 that was time to buy back in and ride it back to $15. That was almost 400% gains, but it required absolutely NOT HODLing and diamond hands. It required trading and understanding the data.

A great book to start to learn is The Bogglehead's Guide to Investing. It is skewed to starting with index funds, which is safe and conservative advice, but isn't going to bring in massive gains. It also doesn't involve massive risk. Things like cost-averaging are also great strategies. Rather than trying to perfectly time things, you buy on the way down in smaller chunks and sell on the way up in smaller chunks. Once you have recouped your initial investment or pulled out some profit, then the rest of the shares are play money and can be gambled with no risk.

In normal investing, "diamond hands" and non-emotional trading are key. Losses are only on paper until you actually sell. In meme investing, diamond hands are a surefire way to lose massive gains. I can't hope to cover everything in one post, but I'm happy to offer info and opinions to anyone that has any real questions. Limit orders, stops, market orders, etc. There is a lot to it and knowing more than what I see on various sites and forums being thrown around is really important if you are seriously trying to invest or make money.
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They said that people would show up on sites and forums to discourage people from investing in GME and AMC. I hope your post isn’t one of them. Also, how did you not make a butt load in the market this year? It was really easy to do so.
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I think if you buy a stock, you should be required to own it for a year.

It would cut down on a lot of fuckery. Owning part of a company for 3 days isn't an investment.
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I'm glad so many people are learning about and exploring the markets, but there is a lot more to investing than "diamond hands" and "HODL!!1!"

None of this is investment advice, just my personal opinion and approach to it all.

GME was an anomaly with 130-140% short float. This is not very common and allowed it to be skyrocketed "to the moon." They caught a hedge fund with their pants down. AMC and many of the others are nowhere near this level of shorting, which means they don't have same potential upside.

Holding to short squeeze is fine and an awesome way to stick it to the man, but it is all artificial and has just as much downside when unexpected things happen like government intervention (Which could come soon, even today). If you are willing to lose money to make a point, then HODL! If not, learn to read charts and understand the market.

Look at historical charts, such as the 1yr, 3yr, and 5yr highs and lows. Nothing fundamentally changed with these companies aside from the lulz, so expecting AMC to hit $50-100+ is not realistic. Their pre-covid price was around $6.50-7. Their 3yr high was only around $20. Their 5yr was $33-34.

Look for resistance. It was clear that the AMC resistance was around $15. It would struggle to climb much higher each time $15 was approached. This often means that is the highest point it will hit. You can never time dips and peaks perfectly. Resistance data is the best indicator you can use. I was able to buy at $8-9 and sell at $14-ish the first time, and then when news of opening up trading again came out when it had fallen back to $8-9 that was time to buy back in and ride it back to $15. That was almost 400% gains, but it required absolutely NOT HODLing and diamond hands. It required trading and understanding the data.

A great book to start to learn is The Bogglehead's Guide to Investing. It is skewed to starting with index funds, which is safe and conservative advice, but isn't going to bring in massive gains. It also doesn't involve massive risk. Things like cost-averaging are also great strategies. Rather than trying to perfectly time things, you buy on the way down in smaller chunks and sell on the way up in smaller chunks. Once you have recouped your initial investment or pulled out some profit, then the rest of the shares are play money and can be gambled with no risk.

In normal investing, "diamond hands" and non-emotional trading are key. Losses are only on paper until you actually sell. In meme investing, diamond hands are a surefire way to lose massive gains. I can't hope to cover everything in one post, but I'm happy to offer info and opinions to anyone that has any real questions. Limit orders, stops, market orders, etc. There is a lot to it and knowing more than what I see on various sites and forums being thrown around is really important if you are seriously trying to invest or make money.
 Quoting: HM238


This post, which intended to "clue us in" on "what's going on" inevitably comes across as not very clued in...
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I appreciate your thread OP! I was thinking earlier this morning I had questions but wasn't sure where to direct them. Just want to mention I did order the book that you recommended. I have no experience with the stock market.

Do you have to work with a broker? Pay monthly fees?

Also, not really interested in long term so much as I am older : )

Do you have to have a lot of money to begin with?

Could someone invest with something as minimal as $10,000?

Does it take many years to get to the point where you are making monthly profits? Is that even feasible if you are not younger?

I'm not asking you to wave a magic wand. I realize there are risks in everything. Just basic questions.

Thank you for your time hf
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Thanks, glad it was helpful to someone! Do not use a Broker. Get an online account like TD Ameritrade, Fidelity, etc. Also open a Vanguard account. You can open both I think for $2,500 (I haven't opened a new account in over a decade so I have no idea what it is now). I started with $2,500 and that Bogglehead's Guide and taught myself as I went, I eventually worked in banking and soaked up as much knowledge as I could from the Raymond James guys we had daily.

$10k probably won't supplement much income monthly, but don't worry about that. Diversify into some funds or an index fund, some high dividend stocks, some super solid boring stocks, some risky high reward plays, and then some penny stock gambles. It all depends on how much you need that money and how much time you have. Time is the biggest variable. Trend safer if the money matters to you and you don't expect big gains and don't have time to heal wounds from any big losses. Trend riskier if you don't care about the money and don't have a lot of time and just want to gamble.

I always recommend using a fake trading website where you trade with fake money (and don't earn anything). After you read that book, open a fake trading account on one of the sites designed to teach you. Start with $10k in fake money and make your buys, then watch it over some time and see how you do. You will likely lose a fair bit. Learn from that and then try again, see if things improve. If so, then start to dabble. The most important things from what I originally mentioned are not buying in large chunks at once. Cost-average buying and selling.
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Your thread caught my attention, as I mentioned, I was thinking about this earlier today and then here you are!

I'm sure others behind the scenes are quietly absorbing what you have shared.

You motivated me to order the book and bookmark the boglehead website. I can't ask for more than that! Thank you OP : )
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I think if you buy a stock, you should be required to own it for a year.

It would cut down on a lot of fuckery. Owning part of a company for 3 days isn't an investment.
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Sounds like communism to me...
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I think if you buy a stock, you should be required to own it for a year.

It would cut down on a lot of fuckery. Owning part of a company for 3 days isn't an investment.
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OK, and if you buy a car, you should be forced to drive it for at least 1 year before you can sell it. Cuz reasons.
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dude you ain’t an investor, you’re a daytrader aka gambler. Don’t share your winning stories if you ain’t gonna share your losing ones either.
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I do day trade and I also invest. I have never had a negative year. I can show my SigFig monthlies for over 10 years. The lowest year I have ever had was an 18% gain and that was the housing crash. I also hold long on a bunch of dividend stocks, AAPL, biotech, foreign investments, and blue chips. I have had massive losses at times, they just have been offset by gains. CTIC and Chesapeake Energy were two. I am crazy long on an insane gamble in FNMA. It may never pay off, but if it does, I'll be buying a private island. I've had paper losses of over $20k a day yesterday and today because of the volatility in the market. That is when to HODL and have diamond hands.
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I lost a lot in Shorting the Markets! Doubling down to stop margin calls! I learned a valuable lesson! The Government has a protection team to build the market up! They know it is super inflated! They will manipulate it like Gold and Silver! But one day in the very near term! it will fall fast! It will be in the likes of 1929!
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Sadly, most aren't. Many of them are buying/selling tiny (even fractional) amounts of shares. However, I've seen a lot of large buys and money in single chunks and then holding all of it. What you are saying is the correct approach. Don't sell it all, sell to cover your investment at a minimum. Sell to cover some profits (including taxes which is something I don't think many of these folks realize are coming) and pay off debt or buy something needed/wanted. Even then, debt isn't all bad. I see people 100% paying off student loans. That is terrible. Not only could student debt be seeing some relief (free money now lost), but the interest is a tax write off now lost, and likely these people have much higher interest debt in other areas. It is emotional to want to see $0 on a balance. Emotions have no place in finance. Instead they could set aside the profits to cover that student debt, invest it in something "safe" and then just continue to make the payments from that money while likely earning more on interest than low student loan interest costs. You still have the capital and nothing is lost.
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I hope you're kidding.

Student loans are at what, 6%? Other than this freakish event, where are these kids going to see 6% returns. Professional investors of pension plans can't even do that.

Kids...pay off ALL your debts first...then pull out your original investment, then put 25% in PSLV, 25% in one of the blue chip silver mining stocks and pocket the rest.

This guy is wrong on so many levels.
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You dont Get It.

I could train you, 30 years in the markets,
Its a movement. Against Financial Tyranny.

F- Em!

BUY and hold SILVER now. The antifiat.

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I do get it. I literally explain it in my initial post. Read what I wrote. Go ahead and stick it to the man, they will always protect themselves and win in the end even if you manage to take out one or two hedges. I think it is awesome actually, but only if you know that is your goal and that these huge gains will be erased in doing so. A lot of people don't understand that. That is why I made the post.

The government is going to step in at some point and stop it. Look at the actual people in the various positions, they are all former c-level people from banking, funds, and finance. They will always protect their own. Too much money and power is in it. It is fun to larp that people on Robinhood buying 0.01 of a share are going to topple Wallstreet, but it is just a larp. If anything, foreign actors are involved and using this opportunity to do economic damage more than anyone.

I hold a lot of physical silver and I'd love to see that short get fucked up a bit in this. I doubt it will happen though. It will also hurt us all in the long run since it will cause big spikes in electronics prices and a lot of other industries. If any swings in silver amount to more than 10-20%, I have a strong feeling that we'll see shit get stopped faster than GME/AMC. Again, it is fun to watch them squirm and try to tackle this situation and if you have the money to lose and hold to squeeze the fuck out of them, by all means, go for it!
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I win ten out of ten horse races every time I go to the track. It's not a "secret"...It sure does piss off my friends though. It's not that I "know" somebody,or got a hot "tip"....it's the fact that I know "something" the rest can't see.....sound familiar.....?...and no ...I won't tell you the "secret". Figure it out for yourself....and when you do.....don't get greedy and give yourself away......Hint: Always get a Track Program booklet.....All the info you need is in there....I've said too much......





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