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Patrick Byrne breaks down why Giuliani led legal team blew it for Trump (tech fraud too complicated for Rudy to grasp)

 
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I am going to refrain from saying too much about mine and Sidney’s relationship. For one thing, over time it became something like I was working for her, helping her get answers to questions. Then, if I recall correctly, she became my lawyer. Whichever it was, in time the relationship became something for which [attorney-client] privilege surely applies. One cannot selectively waive privilege, and just share things one wants to share while claiming “privilege” on the others. I know that. But what I can say is that our relationship started with me walking in off the street as a volunteer with information, and so I can talk about that phase of the relationship, but in time it became formal enough I will not be able to say more.

Read on as he describes the "shit show":

[link to www.nationandstate.com (secure)]
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Long read but I just read the whole thing.
What a sad shit show.
Gulliani fucking thing up along incompetent staff, what a shame.
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I told you Trump should not use that fucker! I knew he was compromised when he shipping all the evidence away after 911.

Twist that one mother fuckers!
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I'm now convinced they are all compromised!
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I'm now convinced they are all compromised!
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Both sides and the whole shebang!
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The courts never heard the evidence, so...this is BS
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They still some of you fuckers believing there's hope!
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Re: Patrick Byrne breaks down why Giuliani led legal team blew it for Trump (tech fraud too complicated for Rudy to grasp)
I am going to refrain from saying too much about mine and Sidney’s relationship. For one thing, over time it became something like I was working for her, helping her get answers to questions. Then, if I recall correctly, she became my lawyer. Whichever it was, in time the relationship became something for which [attorney-client] privilege surely applies. One cannot selectively waive privilege, and just share things one wants to share while claiming “privilege” on the others. I know that. But what I can say is that our relationship started with me walking in off the street as a volunteer with information, and so I can talk about that phase of the relationship, but in time it became formal enough I will not be able to say more.

Read on as he describes the "shit show":

[link to www.nationandstate.com (secure)]
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rudy said in court, on the record, to a judge "this is not a fraud case"

soooo

nope
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It appeared to me Giuliani was making Trump look as bad as he possibly could.
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he's a drunk married to a j minder, only interested in fine suits, fine dining, fine cigars and the bottle.
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funny how you all throw him under the bus now, after years of hero worshipping him
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The judges were corrupt and would not listen to expert testimony or witnesses. They said there was no evidence when it was plain as day.
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Trump isn't so bad himself, but man does he surround himself with the dopiest fucks this planet has ever seen.

He is his own worst enemy.
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I remember all of you sheep were vigorously defending Guiliani and his haphazard band of idiots after every glaring gaffe. Four Seasons Landscaping. Hair dye sweats. Constant typos. Saying one thing at a press conference e then denying it in court.

Powell, Wood, Giuliani, Ellis and every other member of that legal team were fucking amateurs. Amateurs who liked to bluster and bloviate which Trump enjoys so they got the job. There wasn't even a single election law lawyer among them. Not one of the big election law firms were involved. NOT ONE. And yet you all talked like it was going according to plan.

Loss after loss after loss after loss. All according to plan. I took so much shit here for pointing out what should have been obvious to everyone.
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Powell and Wood are not amateurs, by any stretch of the imagination, and no regular election lawyer would be sufficient in this case because TECHNOLOGY. Outfits like Microsoft probably have lawyers who are experts in law and tech but no lawyers like that would have ever stepped forward for this because they're anti US sovereignty globalists who hate Trump. That plus the time constraint worked against Sidney Powell.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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I am going to refrain from saying too much about mine and Sidney’s relationship. For one thing, over time it became something like I was working for her, helping her get answers to questions. Then, if I recall correctly, she became my lawyer. Whichever it was, in time the relationship became something for which [attorney-client] privilege surely applies. One cannot selectively waive privilege, and just share things one wants to share while claiming “privilege” on the others. I know that. But what I can say is that our relationship started with me walking in off the street as a volunteer with information, and so I can talk about that phase of the relationship, but in time it became formal enough I will not be able to say more.

Read on as he describes the "shit show":

[link to www.nationandstate.com (secure)]
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read the whole thing, great post OP. It rings true to me.
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I am going to refrain from saying too much about mine and Sidney’s relationship. For one thing, over time it became something like I was working for her, helping her get answers to questions. Then, if I recall correctly, she became my lawyer. Whichever it was, in time the relationship became something for which [attorney-client] privilege surely applies. One cannot selectively waive privilege, and just share things one wants to share while claiming “privilege” on the others. I know that. But what I can say is that our relationship started with me walking in off the street as a volunteer with information, and so I can talk about that phase of the relationship, but in time it became formal enough I will not be able to say more.

Read on as he describes the "shit show":

[link to www.nationandstate.com (secure)]
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rudy said in court, on the record, to a judge "this is not a fraud case"

soooo

nope
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Yup, that was horrific.

It's like the judge asking, do you have a case?
And Rudy answers ... No.

And how does Rudy get to this point in life without knowing that he can not be in front of a camera without it becoming a disaster?

Even if he had something to say, or a case to make, who the hell could listen to that bug eyed, flop sweating, hair dye oozing, freak?

That's it Rudy, stair blankly at the camera some more with those big bug eyes.

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Trump isn't so bad himself, but man does he surround himself with the dopiest fucks this planet has ever seen.

He is his own worst enemy.
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That’s the problem with nepotism and power.

It’s just like winning the lottery. You’d be swarmed by “friends and relatives” you have never heard of, but the actual friends and people you could be helping aren’t thieving assholes and they get drowned out by the first group.
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Trump isn't so bad himself, but man does he surround himself with the dopiest fucks this planet has ever seen.

He is his own worst enemy.
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He really does. I don't know how such a seemingly intelligent man with so much money can surround himself with such a stellar cast of assholes repeatedly. It's always astounded me.

The election fraud was a HIGHLY WINNABLE CASE if it was presented in a simple and straightforward manner, without hysteria and without gunfights in Germany and other assorted bullshit. We could have won several states on dead and otherwise illegal voters ALONE without even going INTO the computer stuff!
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Patrick Byrne is the lord roastchilds compromise fuck cunt.
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Rudy didn't help himself with the dye running down his face. Seriously.

HOWEVER, the main problem is they didn't keep it simple and stick with the simplest set of numbers they needed to over turn the election. Yes, I know Dominion is crooked, I've seen the screenshots too, but it's too complicated an issue to resolve in the limited time frame they had.

They should have focused on tangible identifiable votes they could target in each state.

Identified DEAD VOTERS
Voters with no known address
Felons unable to legally vote
Identified voters in one or more state
Voters known to be illegal (non-American).

If they had focused on categories like this (and Matt Braynard's project HAD THE NUMBERS) in several states with close margins they could have explicitly turned back the election.

THEY MADE IT TOO COMPLEX AND THE MORE COMPLEXITY THEY INTRODUCED, THE EASIER IT WAS TO MOCK, IGNORE, OR CONFUSE THE ISSUE.

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.
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We had something like 170K mailed in ballots, in Michigan, that weren't tied to any voter registration.

There was fraud with mail in ballots. There were dead people, people who had moved away voting. There was computer fraud (vote flipping, fractional tabulation) and the computer stuff all involved software programming and machines being ONLINE when that's illegal. Foreign countries involvement. Then the mathematical and statistical impossibilities as shown with stuff like Benford's law. It's a massively complex case on the level of something like BCCI which requires the expertise of many kinds of professionals, along with many, many months of research, investigation and preparation - and the money to pay for it all. Democraps knew this and they had the advantage of the January 6th deadline. Then you add in the corrupt courts who either had political agendas or simply didn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole. This is the level of corruption and apathy that destroyed Rome. Now we have Pelosi surrounding the capitol with razor wire while they go after ANY opposition and their coup is brought into sharp relief.
In his poem Human Pride, Marx admits that his aim is not to improve the world, reform or revolutionize it, but simply to ruin it and enjoy it being ruined:

With disdain I will throw my gauntlet full in the face of the world,
And see the collapse of this pygmy giant whose fall will not stifle my ardor.
Then will I wander godlike and victorious through the ruins of the world
And, giving my words an active force, I will feel equal to the Creator.

“Looking for consciousness in the brain is like looking in the radio for the announcer.”

– Nasseim Haramein, Director of Research for the Resonance Project


Normalize every aberrant behavior, bring common all deviancy and let fly the reins of morality and reason, then welcome in that utopia that liberals embrace called communism, that which most Americans with but a shard of ethic would immediately recognize as evil.
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Re: Patrick Byrne breaks down why Giuliani led legal team blew it for Trump (tech fraud too complicated for Rudy to grasp)
I remember all of you sheep were vigorously defending Guiliani and his haphazard band of idiots after every glaring gaffe. Four Seasons Landscaping. Hair dye sweats. Constant typos. Saying one thing at a press conference e then denying it in court.

Powell, Wood, Giuliani, Ellis and every other member of that legal team were fucking amateurs. Amateurs who liked to bluster and bloviate which Trump enjoys so they got the job. There wasn't even a single election law lawyer among them. Not one of the big election law firms were involved. NOT ONE. And yet you all talked like it was going according to plan.

Loss after loss after loss after loss. All according to plan. I took so much shit here for pointing out what should have been obvious to everyone.
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I remember at 8K when the first filing was made, and various lawyers on the board were saying what a mess it was. They described it as amateur hour. A lot of people gave them shit as being shills, but I guess they were right after all.
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I am going to refrain from saying too much about mine and Sidney’s relationship. For one thing, over time it became something like I was working for her, helping her get answers to questions. Then, if I recall correctly, she became my lawyer. Whichever it was, in time the relationship became something for which [attorney-client] privilege surely applies. One cannot selectively waive privilege, and just share things one wants to share while claiming “privilege” on the others. I know that. But what I can say is that our relationship started with me walking in off the street as a volunteer with information, and so I can talk about that phase of the relationship, but in time it became formal enough I will not be able to say more.

Read on as he describes the "shit show":

[link to www.nationandstate.com (secure)]
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rudy said in court, on the record, to a judge "this is not a fraud case"

soooo

nope
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It appeared to me Giuliani was making Trump look as bad as he possibly could.
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I really don't think that's the case. Rudy was not up to the task. Sidney Powell is but a case like this requires lots of tech experts and time and the clock was against her. A garden variety murder case can take a year to prepare and this case requires a lot more than something like that. Rudy is way past his sell by date and he doesn't understand technology so he dismisses it. Sidney is smart enough to know what is beyond her expertise while still being able to SEE the crime.
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I agree with your comments, and I do think that Rudy had an immensely deleterious effect on the case. He wasn't up for it, not at his age perhaps. I think the election fraud case WAS highly winnable but it had to be much more focused than it was. Instead of these hearings, which were just side shows that accomplished nothing practical (and drove me nearly insane), they should have focused on using Matt Braynard's very focused data in the few states that mattered - 5 or 6 of them. The numbers were close. If they had focused on specific categories such as DEAD VOTERS (thousands in some states), FELONS, ILLEGAL ALIENS, VOTERS WITH NO ADDRESS, etc., they could have identified enough votes to win several of these states and at least pushed Biden's vote below the 270 mark. The strategy was all over the place, especially for the time constraints, and HIGHLY IMPRACTICAL. It doesn't matter if you're right if you have an argument that's too complex for people who really don't want to listen.

It's such a shame because this WAS winnable and they're going to make the SOME MISTAKE WITH THIS IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.

I agree with Bannon that they should use this as a showcase for the election fraud BUT as I say...focus on those specific numbers that could have overthrown Biden's vote margin. It might STILL be possible to de-certify some states but.....

They're gonna fuck it up AGAIN.
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The moment I saw the hair dye during his press conference I knew Trump was f'd.
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yeah that wasn't a good sign.
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The State legislatures did nothing about it, the courts want to hear it, and Trump's other lawyers did even less than Rudy. The corruption is far more pervasive and systemic that 'it would be better 'that one man lose an election, than we lose the country.' Well, the country is certainly lost under DimentiaJoe. Military intervention was the only viable option and PDJT knew this since September of 2018. Let's see what happens. Haven't heard much from Sidney lately, at least she is qualified to prosecute under military code.
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Rudy didn't help himself with the dye running down his face. Seriously.

HOWEVER, the main problem is they didn't keep it simple and stick with the simplest set of numbers they needed to over turn the election. Yes, I know Dominion is crooked, I've seen the screenshots too, but it's too complicated an issue to resolve in the limited time frame they had.

They should have focused on tangible identifiable votes they could target in each state.

Identified DEAD VOTERS
Voters with no known address
Felons unable to legally vote
Identified voters in one or more state
Voters known to be illegal (non-American).

If they had focused on categories like this (and Matt Braynard's project HAD THE NUMBERS) in several states with close margins they could have explicitly turned back the election.

THEY MADE IT TOO COMPLEX AND THE MORE COMPLEXITY THEY INTRODUCED, THE EASIER IT WAS TO MOCK, IGNORE, OR CONFUSE THE ISSUE.

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.
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We had something like 170K mailed in ballots, in Michigan, that weren't tied to any voter registration.

There was fraud with mail in ballots. There were dead people, people who had moved away voting. There was computer fraud (vote flipping, fractional tabulation) and the computer stuff all involved software programming and machines being ONLINE when that's illegal. Foreign countries involvement. Then the mathematical and statistical impossibilities as shown with stuff like Benford's law. It's a massively complex case on the level of something like BCCI which requires the expertise of many kinds of professionals, along with many, many months of research, investigation and preparation - and the money to pay for it all. Democraps knew this and they had the advantage of the January 6th deadline. Then you add in the corrupt courts who either had political agendas or simply didn't want to touch this with a ten foot pole. This is the level of corruption and apathy that destroyed Rome. Now we have Pelosi surrounding the capitol with razor wire while they go after ANY opposition and their coup is brought into sharp relief.
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I don't remember all the numbers at this point but I know some of them in some states were quite close, like within 10 or 20k. Even if Trump had just pushed Biden's number below 270 we could have thrown it into the House.

Many of these categories actually had KNOWN IDENTIFIED NUMBERS IN THEM - like Dead voters, because that's the most obvious one. Others like No Known Physical Address, or Felons Ineligible to Vote, were also known an specifically/individually identifiable, which means those SPECIFIC VOTES COULD BE ROLLED BACK. That was THE remedy. Matt Braynard, who had the Voter Integrity Project, actually HAD the votes identified in these categories. If they had only focused EXCLUSIVELY on flipping those individually identified voters that Matt had ID'd, they could have turned this election around WITHIN THE SHORT TIME PERIOD, without going into the more complex and time consuming issues of various types of fraud, state laws, computer issues, etc, that were going to take too much time and effort (possibly years) to argue and prove.

They had to keep it SIMPLE and they failed. This WAS winnable, they just made it too complex and cumbersome.
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rudy said in court, on the record, to a judge "this is not a fraud case"

soooo

nope
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It appeared to me Giuliani was making Trump look as bad as he possibly could.
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he's a drunk married to a j minder, only interested in fine suits, fine dining, fine cigars and the bottle.
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funny how you all throw him under the bus now, after years of hero worshipping him
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not amerikan pediki and he handed over nyc to the zhidovski and albanian mafias.
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Re: Patrick Byrne breaks down why Giuliani led legal team blew it for Trump (tech fraud too complicated for Rudy to grasp)
With regard to Federal Judges not wishing to permit evidence, and in some cases deny standing, such reminds me of a conversation I had some 22 years ago over a diner breakfast with a then Federal Judge whom I know.

He told me that there were instances when a Judge will not accept a case, to dismissing same on specious grounds. "Why?" I asked. He then said that it all has to do with physical threats to himself and his family wherein this intimidation works 100% of the time.

He frankly feared for the lives of himself and his loved ones, and it would be far too late if the FBI got involved as they would need have a Grand Jury, indictments, and then trials, wherein as victims he and his family would already be dead or injured.
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From occasional contacts with several of those staffers over the weeks that followed, I learned what had happened on that day just before I arrived. Rudy had declared, “You can never prove election fraud in a courtroom!” and had insisted that it was not going to be part of their legal strategy. The strategy was going to be to challenge things on procedural grounds: “This county in this state had one set of rules, this other county in that same state used a different set of rules, that violates the Equal Protection Clause of the 14 Amendment.”

So I was correct: just before I arrived there had been a huge blow-up between Rudy and Sidney Powell in front of everyone, ending with Rudy shouting at Sidney and sending her away, in front of an office of dozens of people. And declaring that none of this was going to be about election fraud, and putting his mule-lawyers to work on procedural filings.

Later, a member of Rudy’s team told me that initially, Rudy had not even wanted to do that much. He had wanted to make three more-or-less token challenges in three states, then call it a day. Sidney’s insistence that he was missing the Big Picture had caused Rudy ultimately to relent a little and allow a more aggressive posture to be taken. But still, nothing was to be about election fraud and the possibility of a mass rigging of the election. Rudy could tolerate hearing about a couple of hundred dead people in Philadelphia voting, but he did not want to hear about anything more sophisticated than that.
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If Sidney had known the truth about 9 11, she never would have trusted that creep in the first place. It looked to me as though she stumbled upon the truth and still believed the system can fix it. She is finding out that it IS the system.
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I am going to refrain from saying too much about mine and Sidney’s relationship. For one thing, over time it became something like I was working for her, helping her get answers to questions. Then, if I recall correctly, she became my lawyer. Whichever it was, in time the relationship became something for which [attorney-client] privilege surely applies. One cannot selectively waive privilege, and just share things one wants to share while claiming “privilege” on the others. I know that. But what I can say is that our relationship started with me walking in off the street as a volunteer with information, and so I can talk about that phase of the relationship, but in time it became formal enough I will not be able to say more.

Read on as he describes the "shit show":

[link to www.nationandstate.com (secure)]
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Yes this was posted this morning!
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I am going to refrain from saying too much about mine and Sidney’s relationship. For one thing, over time it became something like I was working for her, helping her get answers to questions. Then, if I recall correctly, she became my lawyer. Whichever it was, in time the relationship became something for which [attorney-client] privilege surely applies. One cannot selectively waive privilege, and just share things one wants to share while claiming “privilege” on the others. I know that. But what I can say is that our relationship started with me walking in off the street as a volunteer with information, and so I can talk about that phase of the relationship, but in time it became formal enough I will not be able to say more.

Read on as he describes the "shit show":

[link to www.nationandstate.com (secure)]
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Long read but I just read the whole thing.
What a sad shit show.
Gulliani fucking thing up along incompetent staff, what a shame.
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.... and there were fucking moles everywhere.
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When Mellissa Carone was testifying and the committee member said they did not find the irregularities she spoke of when looking at the log books or whatever- did Giuliani not have a copy of the records in their original state to back up what she was saying? It made no sense.

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Re: Patrick Byrne breaks down why Giuliani led legal team blew it for Trump (tech fraud too complicated for Rudy to grasp)
Rudy didn't help himself with the dye running down his face. Seriously.

HOWEVER, the main problem is they didn't keep it simple and stick with the simplest set of numbers they needed to over turn the election. Yes, I know Dominion is crooked, I've seen the screenshots too, but it's too complicated an issue to resolve in the limited time frame they had.

They should have focused on tangible identifiable votes they could target in each state.

Identified DEAD VOTERS
Voters with no known address
Felons unable to legally vote
Identified voters in one or more state
Voters known to be illegal (non-American).

If they had focused on categories like this (and Matt Braynard's project HAD THE NUMBERS) in several states with close margins they could have explicitly turned back the election.

THEY MADE IT TOO COMPLEX AND THE MORE COMPLEXITY THEY INTRODUCED, THE EASIER IT WAS TO MOCK, IGNORE, OR CONFUSE THE ISSUE.

KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.
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yeah, I dunno, the whole thing stinks, they all stink

Seems like it's time to accept Trump was a willing fraud. I mean, how can you really be fighting the deep state if you hire a 911 co-conspirator to be your lawyer ?!?!? It's honestly just time to move on from Trump and the nutbag larpers. We're all acting like the guy didn't have 4 years to really go for it, instead he went and created a tangled web.
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Re: Patrick Byrne breaks down why Giuliani led legal team blew it for Trump (tech fraud too complicated for Rudy to grasp)
I think Mediocrity was Pat Cipollone.
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01/31/2021 06:41 PM
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Re: Patrick Byrne breaks down why Giuliani led legal team blew it for Trump (tech fraud too complicated for Rudy to grasp)
So who is The Mediocrity? Any guesses?
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Lin
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Jenna Ellis
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Patrick on Telegram said it was not Jenna Ellis, but he said he wouldn't say who it was and would not answer any more questions about who it was but that he would answer that is it NOT Jenna.





GLP