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3 dead after snow shoveling dispute turns violent in Pennsylvania, police say

 
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Killing people over shoveling snow. What a fucking clown world. Embarrassing to live in PA these days. At least the gene pool lost some idiots. Good riddance.
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The explanation:

Jeffrey Spaide, 47, shot dead his across-the-street neighbors, James Goy, 50, and his wife, Lisa, 48, as they were clearing snow Monday morning in Plains Township.

They’re across the street from each other, and when they would remove snow they would throw it across the street at the other person’s property.

After slaughtering the couple, Spaide went back inside his home and grabbed an AR-15-style rifle. He retrieved the rifle and shot them again.
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* Wendy Ann
This is what happens when you keep the population bottled up for nearly a year now. Can’t go out, jobs cut, etc ... piles onto any existing mental health issues or creates new ones for those who never experienced it before. People will snap over NOTHING!! Tell Wolfie Boy & the Man to add this to their COVID death toll.

* Let's respect this familys privacy... This is a senseless tragedy. And they have a teenager.. Imagine how his whole life turned upside down.

* 15 year old boy with Autism this poor boy will never see his parents again and over something so senseless. My heart breaks for him and how he’s going to have to live with this for the rest of his life. God bless him.

* It's a shame. Keep the boy in your prayers... Hes got a tough road, but he has a great family to support him.

* I have some lazy ass, a-hole neighbors that won’t shovel as well, but I wouldn’t shoot them...

* Snow was the straw as they said but I heard this has been going on for some time now.

* Paige Hettesheimer
I witnessed this. They were my neighbors. Please don't make jokes. This is an absolute tragedy. I feel awful for the families, and it was absolutely horrifying.

* Keith Johnson
They must've really hated shoveling! Maybe it's the people that stole my snow blower.....

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What interesting last names they ALL have

even Jeffery with Jeffery meaning God Peace, and Spaide
could mean to remove the ovaries from a female dog...

Of course the victims last name is obvious. "They" want to create peace for themselves to plunder by ridding themselves of the gen tile people.
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Luzerne County is my hometown.
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Luzerne County is my hometown.
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And Plains Township...literally a few miles away from my parents' house.
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What interesting last names they ALL have

even Jeffery with Jeffery meaning God Peace, and Spaide
could mean to remove the ovaries from a female dog...

Of course the victims last name is obvious. "They" want to create peace for themselves to plunder by ridding themselves of the gen tile people.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77057813


I pictured the shooter as a guy around 50, with a hot temper, and the couple as old bitty complainers.....around 80.
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When you older, snow storms are just needless fucking stress... no fun.

I find them very aggravating, but I'm not at the "double murder / suicide" level... at least not yet :)
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When you older, snow storms are just needless fucking stress... no fun.

I find them very aggravating, but I'm not at the "double murder / suicide" level... at least not yet :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22067365


For some reason, I thought they were older, too, but they were not old.

Shooter was 47. The couple: 50 (husband) and 48 (wife).

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Re: 3 dead after snow shoveling dispute turns violent in Pennsylvania, police say
LUZERNE COUNTY, Pa. (WBRE/WYOU) – The cleanup after a significant snowfall in Plains Township, Pennsylvania took a tragic and bizarre turn Monday when police say a shoveling dispute left three dead.

Officers responded to reports of a shooting around 9:30 a.m. Neighbors said they were just getting ready to shovel the snow when they heard arguing followed by about a dozen gunshots.

“It was around 9:30 and I heard people yelling and then I heard gunshots and I looked out my window and I saw a gunman and I called 911,” a witness who only identified herself as Michelle said.

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It’s pretty certain that if your reaction to snow being tossed in front of your house is to gun murder down the people doing it......it’s pretty certain that the real problem is with something entirely different than having snow thrown in front of your house.
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My neighbor shoveled his whole driveway so he could drive somewhere.. I took my shovel and cleared mine out also but depositing it into his driveway lol the look on his face when he came back was Hilarious LOL
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I think people who keep an ultra tidy home, shoveled sidewalks, raked and manicured yards are suffering from a mental disorder along the lines of being OCD...They feel the compulsion to control their environment and are borderline germaphobes...It must truly be exhausting!
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Well, I have kids toys all over my yard and its a little messy. But I always shovel the snow. When someone you care about slips and they have pain for the rest of their life, you'll regret it.

Leaves. Ever see a car engulfed in flames after parking over dried leaves?

Wet leaves are like ice.


To each there own.
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LUZERNE COUNTY, Pa. (WBRE/WYOU) – The cleanup after a significant snowfall in Plains Township, Pennsylvania took a tragic and bizarre turn Monday when police say a shoveling dispute left three dead.

Officers responded to reports of a shooting around 9:30 a.m. Neighbors said they were just getting ready to shovel the snow when they heard arguing followed by about a dozen gunshots.

“It was around 9:30 and I heard people yelling and then I heard gunshots and I looked out my window and I saw a gunman and I called 911,” a witness who only identified herself as Michelle said.

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 Quoting: HAWK-03


It’s pretty certain that if your reaction to snow being tossed in front of your house is to gun murder down the people doing it......it’s pretty certain that the real problem is with something entirely different than having snow thrown in front of your house.
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Absolutely correct!
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ZERO details on this event and searching for info is impossible, they have taken over the net and control every narritive! Can't find one thread of comments on Facebook, you'd have to dig for hours. So frustrating.

I think it's safe to surmise the married couple was shoveling snow to close to his vehical or throwing the snow somewhere thoughtless.

He went beserk after a year of us being in lockdown, then he's dealing with cabin fever up north. the local news in Lucerrne county PA is WBRE.

This link seems to have far more information than manistream media.
[link to www.ibtimes.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78686355


You made me to dig into this incident:
"Apparently there’s been an ongoing dispute between neighbors, some of which involved a dispute about snow disposal and removal,’ "
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The Goys fam (the victim parents) own no. 13, 15, 23, 27 and 29 house & lot in front of him (house no.6). The victims were living at no. 13.
Spaide moved there after 2013, alone.
I suppose they have made life impossible for him there for years and snapped maybe after many abuses from them;
"came outside with a handgun and shot the Goys, then went back inside and brought out an AR-15 style rifle."
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I think people who keep an ultra tidy home, shoveled sidewalks, raked and manicured yards are suffering from a mental disorder along the lines of being OCD...They feel the compulsion to control their environment and are borderline germaphobes...It must truly be exhausting!
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Well, I have kids toys all over my yard and its a little messy. But I always shovel the snow. When someone you care about slips and they have pain for the rest of their life, you'll regret it.

Leaves. Ever see a car engulfed in flames after parking over dried leaves?

Wet leaves are like ice.


To each there own.
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Is that how the murderer in this article kept his home?
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My neighbor shoveled his whole driveway so he could drive somewhere.. I took my shovel and cleared mine out also but depositing it into his driveway lol the look on his face when he came back was Hilarious LOL
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chuckle
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Re: 3 dead after snow shoveling dispute turns violent in Pennsylvania, police say
Remember a few years back when city workers were caught dumping snow over a lady's fence into her backyard as they had run out of places to put it?
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When you older, snow storms are just needless fucking stress... no fun.

I find them very aggravating, but I'm not at the "double murder / suicide" level... at least not yet :)
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Exactly...rockon
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Re: 3 dead after snow shoveling dispute turns violent in Pennsylvania, police say
ZERO details on this event and searching for info is impossible, they have taken over the net and control every narritive! Can't find one thread of comments on Facebook, you'd have to dig for hours. So frustrating.

I think it's safe to surmise the married couple was shoveling snow to close to his vehical or throwing the snow somewhere thoughtless.

He went beserk after a year of us being in lockdown, then he's dealing with cabin fever up north. the local news in Lucerrne county PA is WBRE.

This link seems to have far more information than manistream media.
[link to www.ibtimes.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78686355


You made me to dig into this incident:
"Apparently there’s been an ongoing dispute between neighbors, some of which involved a dispute about snow disposal and removal,’ "
[link to spiced_chai_latte.com (secure)]


The Goys fam (the victim parents) own no. 13, 15, 23, 27 and 29 house & lot in front of him (house no.6). The victims were living at no. 13.
Spaide moved there after 2013, alone.
I suppose they have made life impossible for him there for years and snapped maybe after many abuses from them;
"came outside with a handgun and shot the Goys, then went back inside and brought out an AR-15 style rifle."
 Quoting: Ferly


Thanks for the details! That man should have moved if they made life so miserable for him. What a shame for all.

If anyone has a chance to watch ID...I think they have episodes on the internet. Watch "Fear Thy Neighbor."

Sounds exactly like what happened in PA...after years of disputes.
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I guess if you don't need to leave your house or make it safe for others to come to your house, you could leave the snow..which can soak up rain, and then freeze into ice.

I guess if one is a pathetic shut-in, it would be OK
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WTF is wrong with you that you characterize shut-ins or those who stay in their homes by choice or by necessity as "pathetic"? Does it make you feel better about yourself to demean others?

Your parents didn't raise you right, and you seem to need a good, old fashioned ass beating to knock sense and a little 'grow the fuck up' into you.

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ZERO details on this event and searching for info is impossible, they have taken over the net and control every narritive! Can't find one thread of comments on Facebook, you'd have to dig for hours. So frustrating.

I think it's safe to surmise the married couple was shoveling snow to close to his vehical or throwing the snow somewhere thoughtless.

He went beserk after a year of us being in lockdown, then he's dealing with cabin fever up north. the local news in Lucerrne county PA is WBRE.

This link seems to have far more information than manistream media.
[link to www.ibtimes.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78686355


You made me to dig into this incident:
"Apparently there’s been an ongoing dispute between neighbors, some of which involved a dispute about snow disposal and removal,’ "
[link to spiced_chai_latte.com (secure)]


The Goys fam (the victim parents) own no. 13, 15, 23, 27 and 29 house & lot in front of him (house no.6). The victims were living at no. 13.
Spaide moved there after 2013, alone.
I suppose they have made life impossible for him there for years and snapped maybe after many abuses from them;
"came outside with a handgun and shot the Goys, then went back inside and brought out an AR-15 style rifle."
 Quoting: Ferly


Thanks for the details! That man should have moved if they made life so miserable for him. What a shame for all.

If anyone has a chance to watch ID...I think they have episodes on the internet. Watch "Fear Thy Neighbor."

Sounds exactly like what happened in PA...after years of disputes.
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You're welcome! hf
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Re: 3 dead after snow shoveling dispute turns violent in Pennsylvania, police say
I think people who keep an ultra tidy home, shoveled sidewalks, raked and manicured yards are suffering from a mental disorder along the lines of being OCD...They feel the compulsion to control their environment and are borderline germaphobes...It must truly be exhausting!
 Quoting: BRIEF


Well, I have kids toys all over my yard and its a little messy. But I always shovel the snow. When someone you care about slips and they have pain for the rest of their life, you'll regret it.

Leaves. Ever see a car engulfed in flames after parking over dried leaves?

Wet leaves are like ice.


To each there own.
 Quoting: Nonentity


Is that how the murderer in this article kept his home?
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I don't know
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yeahsure I throw shoveled snow in the street. Cars drive buy, crush and melt it. What's wrong with that?
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Do you blow your leaves in the street also?
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Used to live in a HOA subdivision many moons ago.....fella across the street had tons of acorns every winter....he'd blow 'em into the street & neighborhood traffic would crush them into bits.....I'd them blow 'em up next to the curb and collect them to use in the garden
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Re: 3 dead after snow shoveling dispute turns violent in Pennsylvania, police say
People get crazy with snow etiquette. I’ve heard of fights over snow blowers blowing snow onto a neighbors property, throwing shoveled snow into the street and there was a teenager who was shot and killed when I was younger because he threw a snowball at the wrong car.

Don’t even get me started on lawn chairs placed in dug out parking spots.
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Both snow and leaves go away all by themselves if given time...I think it's absurd to shovel snow and rake leaves unless you do it for the exercise...like dancing, it's dumb unless you enjoy it...
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well; amen haha
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i bet there was red snow.
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Along with some yellow and brown.
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Both snow and leaves go away all by themselves if given time...I think it's absurd to shovel snow and rake leaves unless you do it for the exercise...like dancing, it's dumb unless you enjoy it...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Your yard must be a real mess. I guess you just don't care because you are lazy.
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I chopped wood all summer so that I can read by a warm fire in the Winter...
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Not all Summer but 3 weeks. 4.5+ cords lasts all winter...
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I split by hand, with a sledgehammer and a series of wedges...
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Both snow and leaves go away all by themselves if given time...I think it's absurd to shovel snow and rake leaves unless you do it for the exercise...like dancing, it's dumb unless you enjoy it...
 Quoting: BRIEF


Depending on where you live; I'm diligent about it so kids don't have to walk in the road to and from the school bus. Mail carrier appreciates it, too.
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Why would they have to walk in the road? It's not difficult to walk on top of snow and leaves...
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Some places can get 2 to 3 ft of snow over a week.. There was so much snow here a few years back some people had snow banks 9 ft high. You obviously don't live in an area that gets much snow so your opinion on things is only relevant to you
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I avoid extremes...most people don't get 10 fucking feet of snow lol
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People get crazy with snow etiquette. I’ve heard of fights over snow blowers blowing snow onto a neighbors property, throwing shoveled snow into the street and there was a teenager who was shot and killed when I was younger because he threw a snowball at the wrong car.

Don’t even get me started on lawn chairs placed in dug out parking spots.
 Quoting: Nipples McGee


Both snow and leaves go away all by themselves if given time...I think it's absurd to shovel snow and rake leaves unless you do it for the exercise...like dancing, it's dumb unless you enjoy it...
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what he said^^
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Killing people over shoveling snow. What a fucking clown world. Embarrassing to live in PA these days. At least the gene pool lost some idiots. Good riddance.
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Look up the number of heart attacks due to shoveling snow...
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i bet there was red snow.
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mixed with a little Yellow and Brown too!!
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