I think today is the day I abandon Flat Earth. (LONG POST sorry not sorry.)

OP, you don't need to be a physicist or a mathematician.

If you have a High School graduates understanding of geometry, you'll know that there's is NO WAY! you could have the know empirical observations of daylight in the month of December....

14+ hours of daylight in Melbourne Australia (58% of a 24 hr day)
15+ hours of daylight in Dunedin, New Zealand (62% of a 24 hr day)
17+ hours of daylight in Ushuaia, Argentina (70% of a 24 hr day)

based on a FE model.

:FlatEarthMod2:

Observations of daylight is the most fundamental of evidence in explaining the physical world in which we live. FE fails badly at this.

What I can not seem to understand is sound. Sound isn't tangible. It doesn't exist at all until the moment it does. So when anything makes a sound, just given the speed of rotation of the earth the sound shouldn't be able to keep up. Let alone the 60 or so thousand it's moving around the sun. Can you explain how that works? Where am I flawed?

I read stuff like that and I don't even know where to begin. Having a HS degree today must not mean much because we covered basic stuff back in the "old" days. OP, you should sue your old schools.

That model is the lynchpin of the FE hoax.

I'd like someone to explain why I can't see the sun 24 hours a day since there is no horizon.

What is the sun setting behind if it's not a horizon?

if we aren't making mistakes, we aren't learning

I mean, I'm 36. So I graduated years ago. My highschool years were fueled by copious amounts of weed and alcohol. No surprise I don't remember a god damn thing. However, it's very surprising that I graduated at all.

Glad you gave an explanation of sound too. Instead of just writing some self righteous reply.

Thanks for your input though, bro. I'll get that lawsuit ready!

Like I said, where to even begin? The sun and our planet's movement around it is completely irrevelant. The speed of the earth spinning is completely irrelivant. It's just you and the nearby sound. The earth and the atmosphere are locked together, for all practicable purposes. The squeak of the nearby chair only travels a few feet, through the atmosphere that is locked to your position. Of course you hear the sound. The speed of the earth spinning and the speed of the earth revolving around the sun are nonsense issues for this.

It's like the old click & clack car show. Somebody would call in with a problem with their starter on their 73 ford and, as likely as not, click or clack would ask what color the car was, like that make some difference in the starter problem. Well, the atmosphere (through which excited air molecules vibrate) is locked to your location. The spin of the earth or it's revolution around the sun are ridiculously unrelated.
See? It's like where do I start. Your schools failed you completely. Why don't you take some physics classes or earth science classes to learn more about this? And, yeah, I had a hs degree, a college degree and 4 years military service before you were even born.

I just want to say that I'm not a shill. I'm not a troll (at least not in this post, I do plenty of trolling though.) I'm just a dude that may have gotten too caught up in the internet.

On to the topic at hand:

My biggest question with the ball earth has always been sound and I couldn't make it make sense in my head. Well...Astro just did it. The explanation is below.

I have been saying for a few years, and it's my tag line, that "I want the truth. We all deserve it." I have been a "flat earther" for so many years now. I have been on the bandwagon of every popular flat earther and just as many unpopular ones. The problem with me is that I never looked at opposing viewpoints long enough to understand them. I would just say "well that doesn't make sense to me so it must be false." That is very unfair to myself. If I am blasted with the truth and I ignore it, that doesn't make me any better than the people who are actually lying. I have to be honest with myself. I have to take in the evidence I've been presented. I have to process it. Then I have apply to my own thoughts and my own conditioning and my own flaws. This isn't only true about flat earth but literally everything in my life.

This is my coming out party essentially. I am emerging from the flat earth closet and I'm admitting that I think I was wrong. God dammit, my fuckin friends are going to bust my balls when I come clean with them. LOL. It's hard admitting I'm wrong because I, like many flat earthers, have been mean and rude in my defense of my belief. I will have to apologize to the ones I was rude to. I will have to show them why I decided to change my mind. I will have to humble myself. That is never an easy pill to swallow.

Astromut, I hope you don't mind me posting this in it's own thread. If I'm violating some rule by doing so, by all means, get rid of it. I think you get so much shit from so many people that come at you hot and you reply in kind. When I approached you I did it with an open mind and with respect. Because of that, I believe, you took time out of your life to explain to me why I'm most likely wrong. I can't argue it. I won't anymore.

And Astro, here's to raising this glass to the 1 in a billion chance we both end up on that rocket with a billionaire. If it happens...I may ask him (just a few) questions about his role in the illuminati but that's to be expected LOL!

Thanks again.

Hi there little shitstain first and foremost you stole someone's tagline that makes you a complete and total hunk of s*** second of all you live on a plane that has deviations called depth in elevation nothing you say do think and work bill will ever change that ever how does that make you feel f*** stain

I have concluded over years of interacting with flatearthers that they are unwilling to learn why they are wrong. They want to hold onto their belief so much that they simply cannot ingest any logically sound rebuttal to why their evidence is not evidence at all. The internet has propelled this PSYOP and has stunted so many truth seekers. Buying into flatearth will lead to all other sorts of other PSYOP fringe conspiracies like becoming a hoaxtard. Once you start to believe that the entire world is lying to you, it opens doorways to rabbit holes for which there is no escape. Into the mind of madness...

There is no critical thought involved in believing a ball earth, you just blindly believe it.

There is no logical proof of a round planet, only nasa cgi.

You should move onto the moon being made of cheese.

It is beyond me why anyone would believe we live on a spinning ball full of water flying in all directions...ugh..

I do love cheese.

I think it's smoked Gouda. That's my theory.

It's something that I haven't believed in so long. Now it's time that I try to prove to myself that I do.

Fuck yeah, gouda. Fuck yeah.

That was beautiful. I would have dismissed that as faked somehow a year ago. Maybe even 2 months ago. But it was amazing to see that. We as flat earthers scream so loudly that water doesn't curve. Well...right here is proof that it does. I guess it could be CGI but honestly that's really reaching and I'm glad I can at least admit that now. Thanks for sharing this!

I'm off to buy some fuckin' gouda LOL.

But, but that doesn't explain all the craters which is why is has to Swiss cheese. As any mouse knows.

https://imgur.com/a/FZor0wQ

But it has no atmosphere so logically it would be smoked by the sun.

Smoked Swiss. Oh wait, even better smoked baby Swiss.

Dam, that sounds good. Now I'm hungry from a FE thread. Ha!

Smoked Swiss... well now you're just being ridiculous...

It is beyond me why anyone would believe we live on a spinning ball full of water flying in all directions...ugh..