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Message Subject I think today is the day I abandon Flat Earth. (LONG POST sorry not sorry.)
Poster Handle ConcernedHuman
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I just want to say that I'm not a shill. I'm not a troll (at least not in this post, I do plenty of trolling though.) I'm just a dude that may have gotten too caught up in the internet.

On to the topic at hand:

My biggest question with the ball earth has always been sound and I couldn't make it make sense in my head. Well...Astro just did it. The explanation is below.

I have been saying for a few years, and it's my tag line, that "I want the truth. We all deserve it." I have been a "flat earther" for so many years now. I have been on the bandwagon of every popular flat earther and just as many unpopular ones. The problem with me is that I never looked at opposing viewpoints long enough to understand them. I would just say "well that doesn't make sense to me so it must be false." That is very unfair to myself. If I am blasted with the truth and I ignore it, that doesn't make me any better than the people who are actually lying. I have to be honest with myself. I have to take in the evidence I've been presented. I have to process it. Then I have apply to my own thoughts and my own conditioning and my own flaws. This isn't only true about flat earth but literally everything in my life.

This is my coming out party essentially. I am emerging from the flat earth closet and I'm admitting that I think I was wrong. God dammit, my fuckin friends are going to bust my balls when I come clean with them. LOL. It's hard admitting I'm wrong because I, like many flat earthers, have been mean and rude in my defense of my belief. I will have to apologize to the ones I was rude to. I will have to show them why I decided to change my mind. I will have to humble myself. That is never an easy pill to swallow.

Astromut, I hope you don't mind me posting this in it's own thread. If I'm violating some rule by doing so, by all means, get rid of it. I think you get so much shit from so many people that come at you hot and you reply in kind. When I approached you I did it with an open mind and with respect. Because of that, I believe, you took time out of your life to explain to me why I'm most likely wrong. I can't argue it. I won't anymore.

And Astro, here's to raising this glass to the 1 in a billion chance we both end up on that rocket with a billionaire. If it happens...I may ask him (just a few) questions about his role in the illuminati but that's to be expected LOL!

Thanks again.

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Yes. My best picture of it yet. Took it early in the Crew-1 mission currently docked to ISS.
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It was nearly 8 times the distance to the moon when I last saw it.

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Conservation of angular momentum. The atmosphere is moving (roughly) with the surface of the earth. We share the same momentum. The momentum carried by air across different latitudes (with less rotation towards the poles) causes the rotation of hurricanes and it's why they rotate differently in the northern vs southern hemispheres.

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Sound is our perception of pressure waves moving through air. The speed of sound is relative to the mass of air it's moving through.
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I threw a few bucks to it, might as well have my name in the hat. It's for a good cause. You should try for it, I'd love to see a flat earther get in that capsule.
 Quoting: Astromut


Seriously, thanks for that. I haven't yet, but as soon as I get a free second I'm going to watch the vid. I appreciate the time you took to reply to all of that.

LOL ya know what, I have the extra money to donate and for the chance to prove the ball to me sitting next to the famous Dr.Astro...fuckin' worth it to me haha.

Thanks again brother.
 Quoting: ConcernedHuman

 Quoting: ConcernedHuman



It’s still flat. Had you no proof the earth was flat?? Do you now believe that the atmosphere gets drug around a spinning ball? And do you believe at its outer edge it is moving faster than it is on the surface? Why is NASA faking space scenes with hair spray?
 Quoting: Revisionist


I never meant it to sound like I just flipped. I have been doubting my belief for a while now and it took a weird catalyst of actually forcing myself to understand how sound works in order to really pull the curtain back and look at ALL evidence that is available to me.

I, now, believe there is a ton of evidence that supports the globe that I FLAT (<---of course pun intended) out ignored. I honestly never even watched or listened to people debunking it until recently. I had no need to because I "knew" it was flat. But as I grow and as I question myself, not only on this, I find more and more pieces of the puzzle that seem to lead to it being a globe.

I still believe NASA lies. Every part of government contains liars, thieves and pieces of garbage. Does that mean the earth is flat...probably not. But honestly it could...I truly don't know I just am done believing it so blindly. I won't do it to myself anymore.

And again, I am not a physicist or a mathematician in any way. I don't understand the numbers behind it and for so long...because I didn't understand it, in my mind it was fake or impossible. That is a huge disservice to myself. Instead of trying to understand it I would just dismiss it. Dammit, if that didn't make me weak. It made me follow people due to my own insecurities and my own shortcomings. And listen...admitting this is hard for me to do. I kinda hate it.
 
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