We need a new political party in this country.

What is the point of a political party when we know that the votes aren't counted accurately and the media is controlled?

Yeah that needs to change.

Along with term limits and drug tests for politicians.

If I have to take one so should they.

Enough of the cocaine congressmen.

So the deep state orders Republicans to repaint themselves - to start new party, beside Trumps new deep state "Theodor Herzl Patriots" party?

The same abhorrent Republican neocons whose treachery gave rise to Trump are talking of forming a new party because of Trump

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just sayin'

Enough talk about forming new parties. There are new political parties being created every four years but they never accomplish anything. We’re better off creating a new country, through secession, and eliminating all political parties in our new country. Have everyone run as an independent.

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Well what's happening now isnt working.

It's just more division from both sides.

How do you think that will end?

We need a paradigm shift in politics.

What's happening now is evil.

Totally evil from both sides.

That's how you get things done in this country man.

I dont like it but its true.

You fight fire with fire sometimes.

The people have the true power if they would just use it.

Parties are a tarp.

Maybe something new is possible.

People are tired of this system.

It's not working.

They are working together to take your freedoms and put you under total control and we are letting them and paying them to do it.

The whole country is suffering while they live like kings on 100 million dollars.

Enough of that bullshit.

I read a story the other day claiming that a bunch of GOP members are talking about starting a new anti-trump GOP party...LOL. So basically it would be Democrat 2.0

So we can split the conservative vote guaranteeing democrat victories. Retards.

Voting is fake, retard.

Not if enough people got behind it and the dems cheat to win anyway so why not try something new?

Because the media won't report it and the vote counters won't count it.

And Buchanan already tried it, so it wouldn't be something new.

It's an uphill battle for sure.

But what's happening is worse than that.

It's a slow death, but it's still death.

Lol, no one can buck the two party power system for long.

That's the problem and what needs to change.

They have too much power now.

the following is from george washington's farewell speech:


Political parties

Alexander Hamilton, the founder of the Federalist Party
Washington continues to advance his idea of the dangers of sectionalism and expands his warning to include the dangers of political parties to the country as a whole. These warnings are given in the context of the recent rise of two opposing parties within the government—the Democratic-Republican Party led by Jefferson, and Hamilton's Federalist Party. Washington had striven to remain neutral during a conflict between Britain and France brought about by the French Revolution, while the Democratic-Republicans had made efforts to align with France, and the Federalists had made efforts to ally with Great Britain.

Washington recognizes that it is natural for people to organize and operate within groups such as political parties, but he also argues that every government has recognized political parties as an enemy and has sought to repress them because of their tendency to seek more power than other groups and to take revenge on political opponents.[4] He feels that disagreements between political parties weakened the government.

Moreover, he makes the case that "the alternate domination" of one party over another and coinciding efforts to exact revenge upon their opponents have led to horrible atrocities, and "is itself a frightful despotism. But this leads at length to a more formal and permanent despotism." From Washington's perspective and judgment, political parties eventually and "gradually incline the minds of men to seek security… in the absolute power of an individual",[1] leading to despotism. He acknowledges the fact that parties are sometimes beneficial in promoting liberty in monarchies, but he argues that political parties must be restrained in a popularly elected government because of their tendency to distract the government from their duties, create unfounded jealousies among groups and regions, raise false alarms among the people, promote riots and insurrection, and provide foreign nations and interests access to the government where they can impose their will upon the country.



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OP is just another example of: if you think our problem are bad, wait til you see our solution.




you are not actually examining the cause of the real problem just symptoms.

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Americans First (Not America First) Party

This party should be about the bottom 90% of Americans and about restoring the wealth of the bottom 90% as it was stolen by the top 10%. The entire tax burden should be paid by the top 10%. Since the government is in bed with Big Business, then it is Big Business who should be paying for everything. Absolutely everything. Look at what the top 10% did to us over the last 30 years.

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parties are a trend, kinda hard to stop it. besides, our problem isn't the parties, but rather the fact that elections are so darn expensive. they force politicians to run to those with a lot of money and those with a lot of money want our souls.

A three party system works great for Canada. after election we either have a Majority winner or a coalition can be formed by two parties for a ruling majority. Coalition governments end up doing very well by the people because no party is free to implement their agenda and since each party is fighting for voters to for a majority government they still cater to the people.

That being said if the media is corrupt, and not exposed all is for not and election integrity is of upmost importance for anything to work.

I do think we the people do require civil lessons for people to be motivated to run and have the knowledge to be successful.

Putin just got changes made to the laws ruling politicians, they can not be dual citizens and must of lived in Russia for like 15 years to be eligible to run. That should be the norm for all countries.

How about just people that fucking care about other people and not lining their own pockets?

Is that too much to ask?

We elect these vampires and then wonder what goes wrong.

Lol.

how bout it Appleman!




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Lol, hey man.

Bottle opener is a must.

How will that do anything Newton?

They own the voting apparatus.

It's too late for all that...

The really unfortunate and shitty thing though is the analyses done around election fraud show that it's been too late for that since at least the early 2000's.

Deluding ourselves into thinking that we're not as far down the road towards really bad things as we actually are will only trick us into making the wrong moves that are ultimately futile.

Also, this has nothing to do with believing in god much less being god fearing.

I'm about as atheist as you can get and I'm firmly on the same side as you not just politically but also in respect to the degeneracy of thought action and etc!

And I'm far from the only one. My core group is 90% non-believers but 100% on your side.

Matter of fact this is one of the things they've used to divide us and get us to this point.

Believe it or not the god fearing blah blah blah stuff has pushed a lot of people away who are by every other measure on the same side as you and people like you.

I'm not saying that we should do nothing and that it's too late by any means either!

What I am saying though is that we need to be smarter about this than just talking about forming our own political party.

I also feel compelled to point out something obvious that I feel like people like you are missing, to the huge detriment of ALL OF US.

The churches and other conservative organizations that should be the backbone and logistical framework of resistance to what's going on have instead sold people like you me and the entire country out!

And they've sold you out because the groundwork for what's happening now started being laid as far back as the 90's.

This is probably the single biggest reason why uniting under any banner that purports to be god fearing is doomed to failure right out of the gate.

The banner we need to unite under is the banner of true Americans who believe in what our founding fathers believed in and are willing to reach across religious and political divides and accept anyone who still believes in what this country was founded upon.

You elect fucked up people, you get fucked up laws.

All these politicians are fucked.

Both sides.

We need real people making our laws, not this corporate bullshit.

Laws should be clear and easy to read, not 2000 pages of nebulous bullshit that can be interpreted a thousand different ways to give them loopholes to fuck you even harder when you catch them.

When did everything get so goddamned complicated?

Lol.

I have been saying for 20 years that the system is totally corrupt and rigged.

Both sides secretly work together while the rest of us argue.

A new political party will be demonized and rejected.

They will be called traitors nazis and be accused of trying to dismantle democracy.