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User ID: 80049525 02/18/2021 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA will attempt to land the Perseverance rover on Mars today. Live coverage will begin on NASA TV at 2:30 pm eastern, 19:30 UT. Quoting: Astromut Perseverance shares a lot in common with the previous Curiosity rover, including the skycrane landing system. Some notable improvements include a zoom lens for the Mastcam (which uses the same KAI-2020CM CCD that I used to film Perseverance departing earth the night after its launch), a system for collecting and depositing samples to be picked up for a later Mars sample return mission, additional science payloads like MOXIE which will be the first in-situ resource utilization test on Mars to generate oxygen. The upgraded cameras and microphones will capture the sights and sounds of the landing to be transmitted back to earth afterwards. It also brings along a technology demonstrator named Ingenuity, a small helicopter drone with large blades to make the first attempt at powered flight on another world. Here are images I captured of Perseverance's cruise stage headed towards Mars with my telescope and ST-2000XCM (which uses the KAI-2020CM CCD): [link to drive.google.com (secure)] It's the faint object moving from bottom left to top right. Using a simultaneous image from a telescope I controlled over the internet in California, I was able to measure the distance using parallax, and putting together all the data I was able to plot the trajectory and show that it was indeed on-course for Mars: I did a live stream of my tracking of Perseverance right here on GLP: Thread: Tracking the Mars 2020 Perseverance Rover Tonight! Hollywood! |
ConcernedHuman
User ID: 79851275 United States 02/18/2021 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I just googled how fast Mars is moving. 53, 853 mph. How in the hell do they get a rocket from this rock moving 67000 mph to that rock moving almost 54000 mph? How fast does the rocket travel? And does the rocket essentially travel in a straight line and kind of just intercept Mars or...? LOL I am not even sure I understand what I'm asking. I used to think of the numbers and the math involved and would go blank and call it fake because I honestly can't comprehend it. The calculations involved have to be so complex just to get there. I want the truth. We all deserve it. |
Chuckles
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Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 02/18/2021 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA will attempt to land the Perseverance rover on Mars today. Live coverage will begin on NASA TV at 2:30 pm eastern, 19:30 UT. Quoting: Astromut Perseverance shares a lot in common with the previous Curiosity rover, including the skycrane landing system. Some notable improvements include a zoom lens for the Mastcam (which uses the same KAI-2020CM CCD that I used to film Perseverance departing earth the night after its launch), a system for collecting and depositing samples to be picked up for a later Mars sample return mission, additional science payloads like MOXIE which will be the first in-situ resource utilization test on Mars to generate oxygen. The upgraded cameras and microphones will capture the sights and sounds of the landing to be transmitted back to earth afterwards. It also brings along a technology demonstrator named Ingenuity, a small helicopter drone with large blades to make the first attempt at powered flight on another world. Here are images I captured of Perseverance's cruise stage headed towards Mars with my telescope and ST-2000XCM (which uses the KAI-2020CM CCD): [link to drive.google.com (secure)] It's the faint object moving from bottom left to top right. Using a simultaneous image from a telescope I controlled over the internet in California, I was able to measure the distance using parallax, and putting together all the data I was able to plot the trajectory and show that it was indeed on-course for Mars: I did a live stream of my tracking of Perseverance right here on GLP: Thread: Tracking the Mars 2020 Perseverance Rover Tonight! Hollywood! Yup, you got it, I lied. Hollywood paid me to lie and claim that I filmed the rover in flight and fake a bunch of data on it's trajectory. Wow, you totally figured it out. |
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Hartz
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ConcernedHuman
User ID: 79851275 United States 02/18/2021 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I just googled how fast Mars is moving. 53, 853 mph. Quoting: ConcernedHuman How in the hell do they get a rocket from this rock moving 67000 mph to that rock moving almost 54000 mph? How fast does the rocket travel? And does the rocket essentially travel in a straight line and kind of just intercept Mars or...? LOL I am not even sure I understand what I'm asking. I used to think of the numbers and the math involved and would go blank and call it fake because I honestly can't comprehend it. The calculations involved have to be so complex just to get there. Nevermind, just watched your tracking video. Fucking mind blowing. I want the truth. We all deserve it. |
Justme C'est Moi
User ID: 80059579 United States 02/18/2021 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I just googled how fast Mars is moving. 53, 853 mph. Quoting: ConcernedHuman How in the hell do they get a rocket from this rock moving 67000 mph to that rock moving almost 54000 mph? How fast does the rocket travel? And does the rocket essentially travel in a straight line and kind of just intercept Mars or...? LOL I am not even sure I understand what I'm asking. I used to think of the numbers and the math involved and would go blank and call it fake because I honestly can't comprehend it. The calculations involved have to be so complex just to get there. It all has to do with the letter "e". 2.7182818284590452353602874713527... Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/18/2021 02:10 PM Justme |
ConcernedHuman
User ID: 79851275 United States 02/18/2021 02:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I just googled how fast Mars is moving. 53, 853 mph. Quoting: ConcernedHuman How in the hell do they get a rocket from this rock moving 67000 mph to that rock moving almost 54000 mph? How fast does the rocket travel? And does the rocket essentially travel in a straight line and kind of just intercept Mars or...? LOL I am not even sure I understand what I'm asking. I used to think of the numbers and the math involved and would go blank and call it fake because I honestly can't comprehend it. The calculations involved have to be so complex just to get there. It all has to do with the letter "e". ...go on. I want the truth. We all deserve it. |
Justme C'est Moi
User ID: 80059579 United States 02/18/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I just googled how fast Mars is moving. 53, 853 mph. Quoting: ConcernedHuman How in the hell do they get a rocket from this rock moving 67000 mph to that rock moving almost 54000 mph? How fast does the rocket travel? And does the rocket essentially travel in a straight line and kind of just intercept Mars or...? LOL I am not even sure I understand what I'm asking. I used to think of the numbers and the math involved and would go blank and call it fake because I honestly can't comprehend it. The calculations involved have to be so complex just to get there. It all has to do with the letter "e". ...go on. Calculus. 2.7182818284590452353602874713527 Just plug that into your calculator, hold your breath for a few years and boom, Mars! That's all I can say for now without the flat Urfers attacking. Last Edited by JustmeTX on 02/18/2021 02:14 PM Justme |
Dollar Bill Wick
User ID: 77099315 United States 02/18/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure. I heard Eddy Murphy is doing a Coming to Arizona II. Freelance Superhero with only a minor personality disorder. All my other personalities are just fine, thanks. Ignore him, no we aren't. Question: "What is the most important thing in your life?" Answer: "NOT BEING STUPID" - Jordan Peterson |
President of TABTX
User ID: 77160280 United States 02/18/2021 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolute bullshit. They probably filmed the “landing” somewhere in northern Canada. The earth is flat, and Mars is a mere celestial luminary, not a rocky spheroid that can be landed on. Quoting: Hartz Not sure which is more entertaining. The content or the tards like the example above. Either way thanks for providing us both Astro. |
Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 02/18/2021 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I just googled how fast Mars is moving. 53, 853 mph. Quoting: ConcernedHuman How in the hell do they get a rocket from this rock moving 67000 mph to that rock moving almost 54000 mph? How fast does the rocket travel? And does the rocket essentially travel in a straight line and kind of just intercept Mars or...? LOL I am not even sure I understand what I'm asking. I used to think of the numbers and the math involved and would go blank and call it fake because I honestly can't comprehend it. The calculations involved have to be so complex just to get there. Nevermind, just watched your tracking video. Fucking mind blowing. Here's a gif of the trajectory I calculated from my observational data of the rover. It's basically a Hohmann transfer orbit. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Incidentally, I traced back the trajectory I observed and it perfectly matched with the altitude and velocity of the rocket at its final engine cutoff. I didn't put that in the video, but if I can find the clip again I might do that. Last Edited by Astromut on 02/18/2021 02:13 PM |
Dollar Bill Wick
User ID: 77099315 United States 02/18/2021 02:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So I just googled how fast Mars is moving. 53, 853 mph. Quoting: ConcernedHuman How in the hell do they get a rocket from this rock moving 67000 mph to that rock moving almost 54000 mph? How fast does the rocket travel? And does the rocket essentially travel in a straight line and kind of just intercept Mars or...? LOL I am not even sure I understand what I'm asking. I used to think of the numbers and the math involved and would go blank and call it fake because I honestly can't comprehend it. The calculations involved have to be so complex just to get there. It all has to do with the letter "e". ...go on. Calculus. 2.7182818284590452353602874713527 It's technical: Freelance Superhero with only a minor personality disorder. All my other personalities are just fine, thanks. Ignore him, no we aren't. Question: "What is the most important thing in your life?" Answer: "NOT BEING STUPID" - Jordan Peterson |
Hartz
User ID: 77917231 United States 02/18/2021 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolute bullshit. They probably filmed the “landing” somewhere in northern Canada. The earth is flat, and Mars is a mere celestial luminary, not a rocky spheroid that can be landed on. Quoting: Hartz Not sure which is more entertaining. The content or the tards like the example above. Either way thanks for providing us both Astro. All you need to do is research...and you will find that the earth is actually flat and that landing on the planets is impossible... |
Goliathus
User ID: 79955193 Canada 02/18/2021 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA will attempt to land the Perseverance rover on Mars today. Live coverage will begin on NASA TV at 2:30 pm eastern, 19:30 UT. Quoting: Astromut Perseverance shares a lot in common with the previous Curiosity rover, including the skycrane landing system. Some notable improvements include a zoom lens for the Mastcam (which uses the same KAI-2020CM CCD that I used to film Perseverance departing earth the night after its launch), a system for collecting and depositing samples to be picked up for a later Mars sample return mission, additional science payloads like MOXIE which will be the first in-situ resource utilization test on Mars to generate oxygen. The upgraded cameras and microphones will capture the sights and sounds of the landing to be transmitted back to earth afterwards. It also brings along a technology demonstrator named Ingenuity, a small helicopter drone with large blades to make the first attempt at powered flight on another world. Here are images I captured of Perseverance's cruise stage headed towards Mars with my telescope and ST-2000XCM (which uses the KAI-2020CM CCD): [link to drive.google.com (secure)] It's the faint object moving from bottom left to top right. Using a simultaneous image from a telescope I controlled over the internet in California, I was able to measure the distance using parallax, and putting together all the data I was able to plot the trajectory and show that it was indeed on-course for Mars: I did a live stream of my tracking of Perseverance right here on GLP: Thread: Tracking the Mars 2020 Perseverance Rover Tonight! Nothing is landing on anything. Heh. "We're not scaremongering, this is really happening." - Thom Yorke "We are accidents waiting to happen." - Thom Yorke "We are the Universe figuring itself out." - Me |
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Justme C'est Moi
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President of TABTX
User ID: 77160280 United States 02/18/2021 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolute bullshit. They probably filmed the “landing” somewhere in northern Canada. The earth is flat, and Mars is a mere celestial luminary, not a rocky spheroid that can be landed on. Quoting: Hartz Not sure which is more entertaining. The content or the tards like the example above. Either way thanks for providing us both Astro. All you need to do is research...and you will find that the earth is actually flat and that landing on the planets is impossible... Yea, yea, been there, done that. Heard it all on both sides ten times over. You do you bro. |
ConcernedHuman
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thetrickybigguy
User ID: 79556664 United States 02/18/2021 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a friend of mine said she had her daughters name engraved somewhere on this thing way back in 2017. Falling down is a part of life, getting back up is living. ~ Life is about choices, you get to make them each and every day of your life. ~ Capitalization is the difference between helping your Uncle Jack off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse.~ Only in America... do we use the word 'politics' to describe the process so well: 'Poloi' in Greek meaning 'many' and 'tics' meaning 'bloodsucking creatures'.~ “When a government is dependent for money upon the bankers, they and not the government leaders control the nation. This is because the hand that gives is above the hand that takes. Financiers are without patriotism and without decency.” If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain. Winston Churchill |
Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 02/18/2021 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolute bullshit. They probably filmed the “landing” somewhere in northern Canada. The earth is flat, and Mars is a mere celestial luminary, not a rocky spheroid that can be landed on. Quoting: Hartz Wrong. Last year when I was observing Mars I directly measured its distance using the parallax between an image I took with my telescope and an image I simultaneously took with a telescope in New Mexico over the internet. [link to drive.google.com (secure)] Given a parallax angle of 0.00164658 degrees, a 2391.060 km chord distance, an angular separation of 49.528 degrees between Mars and Florida as seen from New Mexico at the time of observation, we get the following distance using the law of sines: (2391.060 km/sin(0.00164658 degrees))*sin(49.528 degrees) = 63,292,970 km = 0.423 AU |
ConcernedHuman
User ID: 79851275 United States 02/18/2021 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolute bullshit. They probably filmed the “landing” somewhere in northern Canada. The earth is flat, and Mars is a mere celestial luminary, not a rocky spheroid that can be landed on. Quoting: Hartz Not sure which is more entertaining. The content or the tards like the example above. Either way thanks for providing us both Astro. All you need to do is research...and you will find that the earth is actually flat and that landing on the planets is impossible... Research what though? I used to say this stuff all the time and it wasn't until I really started to question myself that I realized watching youtube wasn't researching. I don't want to trigger you, and maybe you really have done research that I never did, but what Astro does...that is real research. Not being mean and I'm not attacking you. I am just being honest with myself. I want the truth. We all deserve it. |
Hartz
User ID: 77917231 United States 02/18/2021 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolute bullshit. They probably filmed the “landing” somewhere in northern Canada. The earth is flat, and Mars is a mere celestial luminary, not a rocky spheroid that can be landed on. Quoting: Hartz Not sure which is more entertaining. The content or the tards like the example above. Either way thanks for providing us both Astro. All you need to do is research...and you will find that the earth is actually flat and that landing on the planets is impossible... Yea, yea, been there, done that. Heard it all on both sides ten times over. You do you bro. You may have heard it but you clearly haven’t researched it to come to the truth of the matter... |
Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 02/18/2021 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NASA will attempt to land the Perseverance rover on Mars today. Live coverage will begin on NASA TV at 2:30 pm eastern, 19:30 UT. Quoting: Astromut Perseverance shares a lot in common with the previous Curiosity rover, including the skycrane landing system. Some notable improvements include a zoom lens for the Mastcam (which uses the same KAI-2020CM CCD that I used to film Perseverance departing earth the night after its launch), a system for collecting and depositing samples to be picked up for a later Mars sample return mission, additional science payloads like MOXIE which will be the first in-situ resource utilization test on Mars to generate oxygen. The upgraded cameras and microphones will capture the sights and sounds of the landing to be transmitted back to earth afterwards. It also brings along a technology demonstrator named Ingenuity, a small helicopter drone with large blades to make the first attempt at powered flight on another world. Here are images I captured of Perseverance's cruise stage headed towards Mars with my telescope and ST-2000XCM (which uses the KAI-2020CM CCD): [link to drive.google.com (secure)] It's the faint object moving from bottom left to top right. Using a simultaneous image from a telescope I controlled over the internet in California, I was able to measure the distance using parallax, and putting together all the data I was able to plot the trajectory and show that it was indeed on-course for Mars: I did a live stream of my tracking of Perseverance right here on GLP: Thread: Tracking the Mars 2020 Perseverance Rover Tonight! Nothing is landing on anything. Heh. Wrong. It's going to reach Mars today. Whether intact or in pieces we'll soon see. |
Hartz
User ID: 77917231 United States 02/18/2021 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolute bullshit. They probably filmed the “landing” somewhere in northern Canada. The earth is flat, and Mars is a mere celestial luminary, not a rocky spheroid that can be landed on. Quoting: Hartz Wrong. Last year when I was observing Mars I directly measured its distance using the parallax between an image I took with my telescope and an image I simultaneously took with a telescope in New Mexico over the internet. [link to drive.google.com (secure)] Given a parallax angle of 0.00164658 degrees, a 2391.060 km chord distance, an angular separation of 49.528 degrees between Mars and Florida as seen from New Mexico at the time of observation, we get the following distance using the law of sines: (2391.060 km/sin(0.00164658 degrees))*sin(49.528 degrees) = 63,292,970 km = 0.423 AU How did you get the parallax calculation? |
Astromut
(OP) Senior Forum Moderator 02/18/2021 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Absolute bullshit. They probably filmed the “landing” somewhere in northern Canada. The earth is flat, and Mars is a mere celestial luminary, not a rocky spheroid that can be landed on. Quoting: Hartz Wrong. Last year when I was observing Mars I directly measured its distance using the parallax between an image I took with my telescope and an image I simultaneously took with a telescope in New Mexico over the internet. [link to drive.google.com (secure)] Given a parallax angle of 0.00164658 degrees, a 2391.060 km chord distance, an angular separation of 49.528 degrees between Mars and Florida as seen from New Mexico at the time of observation, we get the following distance using the law of sines: (2391.060 km/sin(0.00164658 degrees))*sin(49.528 degrees) = 63,292,970 km = 0.423 AU If you observe Mars over the course of the night you can actually see it rotating. |