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Police Kill MOM of in front of her 2 CHILDREN - she claimed constant stalking and harassment by authorities trying to steal her kids through CPS

 
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Sorry, you run up on a cop screaming all kinds of craziness as well as "Allahu Akbar" and brandishing a knife, you're going to get hurt.

The woman was obviously mentally ill.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


She needed a doctor then, not a bullet.
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Well a doctor wasn't gunna get her to drop that knife in the moment so I have to disagree with you. She got what she disserved. I'm sure if it was a black mother you'd have a whole different opinion. I've been coming here since high school and I'm in my thirties now. I know this place well even though none of you know me.
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In my day, Cops were well trained how to disarm your average "MOM" wielding a knife. Sure you may get cut, but no one had to die on that day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79678960


The part that you fucktards just don't seem to get, is that the police do not CARE about you.

Your entire supposition revolves around a situation where the police CARE about these lowlife knife-wielding imbeciles.

If a cop is facing a situation where he can easily be injured or killed, verses a situation where he can LEGALLY put down the OBVIOUS threat, he's going to do the latter.

Especially after he made every effort (on video) to calm the whackjob, giving the whackjob opportunity after opportunity to stop what they are doing.
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Sorry, you run up on a cop screaming all kinds of craziness as well as "Allahu Akbar" and brandishing a knife, you're going to get hurt.

The woman was obviously mentally ill.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


Yup and the training and protocols need a better process then to escalate and push buttons so the unlock codes are hit.

We spend so much money on Law enforcement and this is a very poor result.

Could they have disengaged and perhaps put a drone on her?

Would a different approach offered a less then lethal option?

Do we not have any actual hostage negotiators who can talk/calm people like this.

This is sick, but based on policy, training and immunity, these officers will get paid leave and the BLM crowd will go bonkers.
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Why don't they try using tranquilizer guns on people.

Shoot 'em with a fast acting tranquilizer, the person drops unable to move, disarm them of the knife.

And I'm only talking about situations where the person has a knife... if they have a gun that's a different matter.
 Quoting: EBE2021


Even the fasting acting tranquilizer will not stop someone from rushing you. In fact, the very act of shooting them with a dart would be a TRIGGERING event that would prompt someone to do just THAT.

If a taser didn't drop someone immediately, you can bet your ass that shooting the taser darts into a subject would trigger them into immediately attacking.
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Re: Police Kill MOM of in front of her 2 CHILDREN - she claimed constant stalking and harassment by authorities trying to steal her kids through CPS
...

If someone is coming at you with a knife acting deranged what would you do
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A 90 pound woman? I would disarm her and restrain her (even if she had a freaking machete or an axe. Context matters- a 200 pound convict or cage fighter might be a different story, but probably not, I'd disarm and bitch-slap that fool too. If a grown, healthy man is unable to put the time in to learn how to do this, or unwilling, they should go into another line of work than law enforcement.

Those 2 could have always just stayed in their vehicle too and called social workers, etc.- that woman was not a threat to anyone when they rolled-up on her. They aggravated her due to their lack of skill, training and aptitude- OBVIOUSLY.
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It just doesn't GET much dumber than this ^^^

It is simply not the police's JOB description to just go ahead and risk being sliced and diced by an adult, male OR female.

STOP giving a PASS to someone based on the fact that they have a vagina.

You can EASILY be stabbed to death by a 90 pound demon possessed woman. It HAS happened, and it will happen again, especially is people take your world-class STOOOOPID advice.
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-Yes it is

-Not unless the cop is a sissy little bitch and should be behind a desk in which case.

Cops should be paid like 3X's as much and screened and trained like 5X's harder- real men don't shoot crazy women trying to defend their children- they just don't. Either don't get out of your vehicle and wait for someone with actual skills (either verbal or physical), or handle that shit like a man.

These 2 belong OFF the force and possibly in jail- unfortunately they were probably just following their basic training designed to demonize them in the eyes of the general public.
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Perry Mason here ^^^ deserves a triple... lol

norespectnorespectnorespect
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Re: Police Kill MOM of in front of her 2 CHILDREN - she claimed constant stalking and harassment by authorities trying to steal her kids through CPS
She didn't need to escalate the situation in front of her kids. That doesn't justify this shooting, but damn girl.. calm the fuck down. Think of your kids!
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Stupid cops need to use this with tranquilizer and her life could be saved:

 Quoting: TSPNS


Do you have any idea how long a tranquilizer takes to put someone down.
 Quoting: Force King


Depends on the dose. If adversary is immobilized already with bola wrap around his hands and legs tranquilizer could take some effect without killing.


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bump
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Sorry, you run up on a cop screaming all kinds of craziness as well as "Allahu Akbar" and brandishing a knife, you're going to get hurt.

The woman was obviously mentally ill.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


The situation did NOT give the pig the right to
play god and take her life.
His life was NOT threatened.
This is the commie state we are in and the public
accepts it as normal. It is NOT normal.
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She was running at him with a knife... miss that part?
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Poor kids. Stopped watching when she started hysterical shouting.
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but but I thought we support the police?
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Re: Police Kill MOM of in front of her 2 CHILDREN - she claimed constant stalking and harassment by authorities trying to steal her kids through CPS
Yeah screaming and running towards a cop with a knife drawn.

What could go wrong? Have you even seen this video?

That woman was clearly insane.
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it's her right to defend herself from armed thugs, even if sheeple, like you, worship the uniform.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79800054


Exactly, unless the cops have rAs or PC of a crime committed or being committed you have ZERO obligation to make contact with them and have EVERY right to walk away from them and keep quiet!

You also have the legal right if these cops attempt to attack you when none of the prior conditions are met to use
DEADLY force to maintain or regain your rightful freedom or liberty up to and including killing any and all officers that would attempt to deny you your UNalienable rights.



TAKE NOTICE CRIMINALS IN UNIFORM.

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Hey Einstein... According to your "logic", she can feel "proud" while she rots in her grave, that she "did the right thing".

You will NEVER win a fight with the 800 pound gorilla on the street. Whether you are right OR wrong.

The only thing a reasonable (rational) person can do, is have their day in court.

Only a total and complete IMBECILE would do what this idiot did.

Would you rather be "right" and dead, or would you rather have your day in court?

Fuckin IDIOTS!
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With great power comes great responsibility...
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Sorry, you run up on a cop screaming all kinds of craziness as well as "Allahu Akbar" and brandishing a knife, you're going to get hurt.

The woman was obviously mentally ill.
 Quoting: Psychedelic Mashed Potatoes


The situation did NOT give the pig the right to
play god and take her life.
His life was NOT threatened.
This is the commie state we are in and the public
accepts it as normal. It is NOT normal.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80066060


She was running at him with a knife... miss that part?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77796832


What was the reason for the stop? Why didn't the disengage, put a drone on her. Perhaps been a bit more tactile and selected better location that would allow for a less than lethal option.

I get she walked right thre their unlock codes but perhaps that's the problem, they didn't have the option to walk away.
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It's clear that the police wasn't informed about the situation.

you can clearly see that the cop that left the car hands his hand at his weapon whithout taking it.

that sign triggers the woman's feelings Why she acting violant. She didn't menace the police. If you think see did that than you have to accept that handing hands at a holster is also a menace. She was proctecting her children. Easy to understand if you know the situation in the capitol where that kind of people don't have a reason to act at it.

She became really violant when the police her approached at her back with a teaser en used at her. You know al what happened later.

It is clear that the police wasn't capable to handle the situation. They weren't educated to handle this situation. They even were capable to speak with the mother.

It is clear that they wouldn't communicate with the mother because all was clear for them. Because the police take already to the holster by leaving the car.

You don't have me to say what kind of people they were. That kind of people influence all the people of the world.

corporate police very dangerous people.yoda
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FUCKING HELL
What kind of monster beyond an SS insignia murders a mother in front of her 2 children (who must now suffer trauma for years and will grow to hate cops)
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SS never did anything like this to Germans.
Your thinking of the KGB in Communist Russia.
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Well that’s right.
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FUCKING HELL
What kind of monster beyond an SS insignia murders a mother in front of her 2 children (who must now suffer trauma for years and will grow to hate cops)
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Ummm..going after a cop while swinging a knife dumb fuck. That’s her fault. She wanted suicide by cop.
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Re: Police Kill MOM of in front of her 2 CHILDREN - she claimed constant stalking and harassment by authorities trying to steal her kids through CPS
Mother in despair protecting kids can acquire unphysical strength. There are many cases like that. But she is human, not a bear to be killed. Cops should be stripped off the badges and they can requalify into some hunters. Cops are not hunters.
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When the Cops get called, innocent people often end up dead.
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Re: Police Kill MOM of in front of her 2 CHILDREN - she claimed constant stalking and harassment by authorities trying to steal her kids through CPS
They knew her.....called her by her name. There's something not right with this picture. They knew ALREADY, before even getting there, what they were gonna do. Apparently she WAS "targeted", just like she said, and why she was hysterical when they arrived, and why she was attempting to get help "relocating".

She should NOT be dead. There's something seriously a-miss here.

God help us.
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Re: Police Kill MOM of in front of her 2 CHILDREN - she claimed constant stalking and harassment by authorities trying to steal her kids through CPS
I'm as anti-police brutality/pro-freedom as they come.

This woman is responsible for the outcome of this situation. She started screaming paranoid crazy shit. She screamed "Allahu Akbar". She threatened police officers with a knife IN FRONT OF HER CHILDREN. She charged a police officer with a knife and threatened to kill him.

They tried to talk politely and calmly. They tried to back down. They tried to taze her. After the officer shot her, they tried diligently to keep her alive and probably would have been successful if she would have dropped the knife sooner after she was on the ground and shot.

I speak as a person with 8.5 years in mental health, 2.5 years of which was spent as a crisis worker dealing with pscyhotic, suicidal, and homicidal patients. She is severely mentally ill. I can almost guarantee that CPS (or DCFS) was well aware of her mental state and had come to the conclusion she was not currently fit to care for her children.
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I guess police can shoot the mentally ill now? I don't remember Hitler winning.
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I do. I've seen the signs of his victory since I was a kid. He may have lost the war on the ground, but spiritually he won the soul of humanity.
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((they)) have to keep the adrenochrome factories running at full capacity you know


shocked
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78017168


Not here buddy. This statistically is going to be meth, alcohol, heroin, or some combination of all the above.

Check out Nevada County police blotter if you want to see some real shit. Crazier things happen here than a lady getting blasted in front of her kids.
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i did

one example:

[link to www.theunion.com (secure)]

"Saturday

6:52 p.m. — A caller near Gold Flat Road and the 49/20 entrance ramp reported a suspicious male with a “weird bird mask” and black trenchcoat on."
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epiclol

what a shithole!
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Don't fuck with the Police.
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Wtf at 3:35 she says you can't hide from God then screams Allah Akbar. Completely crazy.



On Wednesday night, the eve before her death on February 4th 2021, Ariella Sage Eloise Crawford (commonly known in the local community as Sage Crawford, birth name Deidre Hawkins) confided in numerous sources that she was being harassed by law enforcement and that she was concerned for the safety of her two daughters, 4 and 6 years old, specifically because of a possible incident that occurred at a local shelter, though no reports exist to substantiate or discredit this claim. Sources who were in contact with her the days leading up to her death described her as terrified, but not erratic. Sage was from Southern California originally, with family in Oregon, but had been in the Nevada County area since last year.

“I put forth all the effort into changing for the better, because that’s what my children deserve.” Sage Crawford wrote these words years ago, but had continued to show through action that she meant them since losing the father of her children, Isaiah Crawford, in a tragic motorcycle accident on May 30th 2017 while she was pregnant with their youngest daughter.

On Thursday, February 4th, the Nevada County Sheriff’s Office (NCSO) was dispatched to a call in the community of Alta Sierra for a young woman walking down the shoulder of the road in the afternoon holding each of her daughter’s hands, the report stating that she seemed intoxicated and was walking in the middle of the road. Sage, also known by her birth name Deidre Hawkins, seemed familiar with the neighborhood and had knocked on a resident’s door to ask for jackets for her children as well as a ride to the neighboring state of Nevada for undisclosed reasons. The dispatch call at 1:14pm mentioned a female needing a ride to Nevada City, saying that her children were in danger. Ten minutes later, officers arrive on the scene and within minutes a taser had deployed unsuccessfully, followed by gun shots. Sage reportedly showed law enforcement a knife she carried for protection as she yelled “You are not going to take my children away.”

Though dash cam footage has still not been released as definitive proof of what occurred in the tragic death of Sage Crawford, according to eye-witness reports, she was standing behind her children when she was shot. Deputies approached her, the situation escalating in volume and intensity quickly, shots were fired within minutes of law enforcement’s arrival. With the knife in view in her hand, one officer deployed their taser but it was unsuccessful in subduing the woman who stood at roughly 5’2”. The other deputy unloaded two shots from his fire arm, followed quickly by three more shots. It has not yet been made available to the public which of these two officers used the firearm. Both officers, each with 4 years service to Nevada County, have been placed on administrative leave, per department protocol. At least two shots were said to have hit Sage, one in each shoulder, though an official coroner’s report has yet to be released to either the family or the public. Community members who were familiar with Sage describe her as a private, mild mannered young woman who was a mother before anything else. The scene, including the blackberry bushes where her body fell, was quickly barricaded and secured, closing the small residential neighborhood to any traffic coming in or out. There is no evidence of blood on the pavement, the pine-needles lie on the road undisturbed. Sage’s daughters were immediately taken into CPS custody as their mother was transported to a hospital where she was pronounced dead by 4pm. *

The daughters have since been reunited with biological extended family and are physically safe in a judicially granted guardianship. Both the Hawkins and Crawford family have joined together to find out the truth about what happened on 2/4/21 and the days leading up to her death, but also with a focus on giving the children all that they need during this difficult time.
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Gotta love these threads filled with people cheering on someone being shot in front of their kids. Good job comrades, see you in the gulag.
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:ackbar:
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Gotta love these threads filled with people cheering on someone being shot in front of their kids. Good job comrades, see you in the gulag.
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These are mostly AC trolls, keyboard warriors.
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Gotta love these threads filled with people cheering on someone being shot in front of their kids. Good job comrades, see you in the gulag.
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The Police don't have time for your snotty sentiments.

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If their mom wasn't a raving crazy with a knife would she be alive?

I say yes!
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burned coal:

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"Sage Crawford had been temporarily housed in at the Golden Chain Motel in Grass Valley with her two daughters, and their dog for two days leading up to her death. It is unclear if she planned on returning to the Golden Chain, one of the few organized temporary housing options of unhoused community members with animals. Sage had been staying off and on at other local motels since at least last year while she used available county resources to facilitate a transition into long-term housing, for which sources say she had just figured out. Residents who were close to Sage said she was looking forward to homesteading with her children, she was a follower of the Muslim faith and was a deeply spiritual person. Sage is described as a healer, who interacted with plants through Keiki horticulture practice and always had animal companions. It is unclear where her dog Arcadia is at this point in time."
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Islam isn't a religion. The husband has custody of the children, and will kill the mother to get them.

She was probably trying to save the daughters from being sex slaves.
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Well id say the family shouldnt use this video in court..
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FUCKING HELL
What kind of monster beyond an SS insignia murders a mother in front of her 2 children (who must now suffer trauma for years and will grow to hate cops)
 Quoting: Grumpyarse


What kind of a mother screams, curses, and acts crazy in front of her kid?

What kind of a mother fucks with the police with a knife in hand while her children are watching?

Get a fucking grip.
How do you expect an officer to act?
"ill let this crazy libtard bitch stab me in order to save her children from witnessing traumatic events".


See how much fucking sense you make???
Fucking idiot.
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YOU WHAT.......... DAFT CUNT

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burned coal:

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"Sage Crawford had been temporarily housed in at the Golden Chain Motel in Grass Valley with her two daughters, and their dog for two days leading up to her death. It is unclear if she planned on returning to the Golden Chain, one of the few organized temporary housing options of unhoused community members with animals. Sage had been staying off and on at other local motels since at least last year while she used available county resources to facilitate a transition into long-term housing, for which sources say she had just figured out. Residents who were close to Sage said she was looking forward to homesteading with her children, she was a follower of the Muslim faith and was a deeply spiritual person. Sage is described as a healer, who interacted with plants through Keiki horticulture practice and always had animal companions. It is unclear where her dog Arcadia is at this point in time."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77079815


Islam isn't a religion. The husband has custody of the children, and will kill the mother to get them.

She was probably trying to save the daughters from being sex slaves.
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well, she got herself shot dead by the Police, is what she did.

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