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Perseverance Surface Checkout Briefing

 
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02/20/2021 04:17 PM
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The one question Astro has never answered is [what the hell is a person who defends and SHILLS for NASA doing moderating a forum full of conspiracy theorists and realists, most of whom distrust the government?] Seems like an unusual arrangement.
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Already answered multiple times. Stop lying.
 Quoting: Astromut


I missed it , can you say it again?


You said real astronomy forums wont let you post your information, you never explained why a person who defends NASA and the government is moderating a conspiracy oriented forum. You know what, I bet you can't.
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You don't ask to become a mod here, the mod position finds you. I'm a fair and unbiased moderator. I'm here because I'm free to speak here and share my software here, I'm not given that latitude on astronomy forums. I already explained that and you admit you knew that.
 Quoting: Astromut

No, you are not. You remove posts that prove your wrong every single time, and you attack people who ask you to provide evidence or doubt your claims.
You have never proved ANYTHING here, and I've exposed you on many occasions as too ignorant to possibly be the source of the information you post here.

My guess is the reason you're not allowed to post elsewhere is because when confronted with the reality nothing you present as evidence is evidence, you become offensive.
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02/20/2021 04:21 PM
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Explain an orbit again, Astro. Explain the physcial-mechanical aspects of a simple orbit.

In my explanation ,in a stable orbit the force of centripetal acceleration opposes the force of gravity in balance.

As I recall before you removed your post, your contention was that an object in orbit is continuously falling around the planet, Is that not true?.


Cruise

No one that ignorant of basic physics could POSSIBLY do what you claim to.

It is just that simple.
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02/20/2021 04:25 PM
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Explain to us again how the presence of corner cube reflectors on the moons surface proves men placed them there.


While you're at it , explain how astronomers can bounce laser beams off any part of the moon.

epiclol

Anyone who claims that as evidence of a manned lunar landing is not exceptional bright, AND YOU DID.
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02/20/2021 04:29 PM
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My contention is that a person who does not understand the basic physics involved in orbital mechanics could not possibly plot a trajectory to another planet, as that would involve the same physcis and in a much more complex set of data, and the source of the information he presented is not with himself.

Prove me wrong and I'll admit I'm wrong, unlike you.
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02/20/2021 04:32 PM

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Already answered multiple times. Stop lying.
 Quoting: Astromut


I missed it , can you say it again?


You said real astronomy forums wont let you post your information, you never explained why a person who defends NASA and the government is moderating a conspiracy oriented forum. You know what, I bet you can't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071590


You don't ask to become a mod here, the mod position finds you. I'm a fair and unbiased moderator. I'm here because I'm free to speak here and share my software here, I'm not given that latitude on astronomy forums. I already explained that and you admit you knew that.
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No, you are not. You remove posts that prove your wrong every single time,
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False.
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Prove me wrong and I'll admit I'm wrong, unlike you.
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I've already proven you wrong. I gave you until tomorrow to submit your evidence but if you try to spam my thread with your unhinged rantings one more time then your time will be up right now.
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You're right, no one can. But thats not how science works at all. Every piece of data is critically analyzed and if shown to be in doubt for any reason must be disregarded.
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Dismissing it because you claim it could have been easily faked is not critical analysis. You have failed to support your claim that it is easily faked.
 Quoting: Astromut


So let me get this straight, it is your contention that it could not have been easily faked? One thing NASA seems to overlook is there is no "taking your word for it" involved in science, no argumentum ab auctoritate, and that goes for you too.
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Not up to me to prove a negative. I provided the raw data. You still have not shown any evidence that my hundreds of megabytes of raw, uncompressed high bit depth files with metadata, whose acquisition was live streamed, could easily be faked. You have until the end of tomorrow to produce your evidence. Tick tock.
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Thread: Tracking the Mars 2020 Perseverance Rover Tonight!
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You're right, no one can. But thats not how science works at all. Every piece of data is critically analyzed and if shown to be in doubt for any reason must be disregarded.
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Dismissing it because you claim it could have been easily faked is not critical analysis. You have failed to support your claim that it is easily faked.
 Quoting: Astromut


So let me get this straight, it is your contention that it could not have been easily faked? One thing NASA seems to overlook is there is no "taking your word for it" involved in science, no argumentum ab auctoritate, and that goes for you too.
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Not up to me to prove a negative. I provided the raw data. You still have not shown any evidence that my hundreds of megabytes of raw, uncompressed high bit depth files with metadata, whose acquisition was live streamed, could easily be faked. You have until the end of tomorrow to produce your evidence. Tick tock.
 Quoting: Astromut


Or what?


epiclol

I cannot prove you faked your evidence or that it does not originate with you, but what I can do is cast so much doubt on it as to obliterate your credibility.
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Prove me wrong and I'll admit I'm wrong, unlike you.
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I've already proven you wrong. I gave you until tomorrow to submit your evidence but if you try to spam my thread with your unhinged rantings one more time then your time will be up right now.
 Quoting: Astromut


I am not "spamming" by pointing out you're being dishonest.

You still havent admitted the data you presented could have been faked and might not originate with you.

Until you do.....Cruise
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Dismissing it because you claim it could have been easily faked is not critical analysis. You have failed to support your claim that it is easily faked.
 Quoting: Astromut


So let me get this straight, it is your contention that it could not have been easily faked? One thing NASA seems to overlook is there is no "taking your word for it" involved in science, no argumentum ab auctoritate, and that goes for you too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071590


Not up to me to prove a negative. I provided the raw data. You still have not shown any evidence that my hundreds of megabytes of raw, uncompressed high bit depth files with metadata, whose acquisition was live streamed, could easily be faked. You have until the end of tomorrow to produce your evidence. Tick tock.
 Quoting: Astromut


Or what?


epiclol

I cannot prove you faked your evidence or that it does not originate with you, but what I can do is cast so much doubt on it as to obliterate your credibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80071590

Thank you for proving that your true intention is just to damage my credibility and poison the well. That's the only thing you have been able to prove, you failed to prove your contention that it would have been easy to fake. You are now done. I gave you every opportunity to behave. I am a fair mod.
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