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Eternal damnation/torture does not exist. The concept was introduced as a test.

 
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Nobody is eternally damned to everlasting agony or misery, because the true Father is infinitely more loving and forgiving and good than most people assume He is. He wouldn’t even annihilate any of His creations, let alone torture them, because He is just that nice.

The entire idea of eternal damnation was created by God, and administered by demons(Yahweh, a false god who does God’s will by testing us) as a test to determine which people would be cowardly enough to support eternal torture of billions of their fellow humans just to save their own ass, and which people are so hateful and wicked that they genuinely believe that eternal torture is an acceptable punishment for temporary sins on earth. It isn’t an acceptable punishment.

The correct spiritual response is to reject the notion of eternal damnation while still having faith in Christ. Faith is more than knowing He is real; true faith means you know He is absolutely good and forgiving, and eternal damnation is neither good nor forgiving. It is an evil lie.

If you genuinely support the concept of eternal torture, you’re in for a rude awakening. God will still forgive you, but you’ll feel very shameful for your beliefs.... which everyone in Heaven will have access to forever.
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You are wrong.

Also, dare YOU question God or remake His Judgements or punishments???

You are but the clay...He is the Creator.

You really need to read THE BIBLE. <---


stop believing all that other worldly nonsense
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I wish to be completely non-existent as I never existed in the first place.
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I wish to be completely non-existent as I never existed in the first place.
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*non-existent as if I never*
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You are wrong.

Also, dare YOU question God or remake His Judgements or punishments???

You are but the clay...He is the Creator.

You really need to read THE BIBLE. <---


stop believing all that other worldly nonsense
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My knowledge comes directly from God’s Spirit, not words in a book written by men.

The bible itself is filled with both truth and lies, because it too is a test. Most people are either too indoctrinated or too cowardly to question the ‘bad’ parts of the bible, often for fear of being damned themselves. Or just because they can’t think for themselves.

I don’t expect you to believe me. You will some day though! And you’ll be forgiven for it, but somewhat embarrassed!

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I wish to be completely non-existent as I never existed in the first place.
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You won’t wish for non-existence once you die and see how incredibly beautiful and perfect Heaven and God is. Just the feeling of His love alone makes it all more than worth it! And there’s plenty of fun, clean things to do there too!
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I wish to be completely non-existent as I never existed in the first place.
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You won’t wish for non-existence once you die and see how incredibly beautiful and perfect Heaven and God is. Just the feeling of His love alone makes it all more than worth it! And there’s plenty of fun, clean things to do there too!
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Yes I will, there's nothing more peaceful then not existing at all.
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Nobody is eternally damned to everlasting agony or misery, because the true Father is infinitely more loving and forgiving and good than most people assume He is.
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I wish to be completely non-existent as I never existed in the first place.
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You won’t wish for non-existence once you die and see how incredibly beautiful and perfect Heaven and God is. Just the feeling of His love alone makes it all more than worth it! And there’s plenty of fun, clean things to do there too!
 Quoting: Gabriel~


Yes I will, there's nothing more peaceful then not existing at all.
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I assume you’ve been badly hurt in this life. I know what it feels like to want to cease existing. I once wanted that before God told me the truth of how perfect and loving He and Heaven are.

Perfect eternal love in your Heart is literally infinitely more peaceful than annihilation. It’s not simple carnal pleasure like an orgasm, it transcends any description. There is no pain or violence or rudeness or hurtfulness in Heaven whatsoever. It’s simply not possible there.
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YOU are going to go to HELL (unless you repent)!!!
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this must be an example of the love of christ..
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Nobody is eternally damned to everlasting agony or misery, because the true Father is infinitely more loving and forgiving and good than most people assume He is. He wouldn’t even annihilate any of His creations, let alone torture them, because He is just that nice.

The entire idea of eternal damnation was created by God, and administered by demons(Yahweh, a false god who does God’s will by testing us) as a test to determine which people would be cowardly enough to support eternal torture of billions of their fellow humans just to save their own ass, and which people are so hateful and wicked that they genuinely believe that eternal torture is an acceptable punishment for temporary sins on earth. It isn’t an acceptable punishment.

The correct spiritual response is to reject the notion of eternal damnation while still having faith in Christ. Faith is more than knowing He is real; true faith means you know He is absolutely good and forgiving, and eternal damnation is neither good nor forgiving. It is an evil lie.

If you genuinely support the concept of eternal torture, you’re in for a rude awakening. God will still forgive you, but you’ll feel very shameful for your beliefs.... which everyone in Heaven will have access to forever.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


YOU are going to go to HELL (unless you repent)!!!


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YOU are going to be very ashamed of yourself when you arrive there. It’s all good though, I still love you! And so does God!
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Re: Eternal damnation/torture does not exist. The concept was introduced as a test.
no its divine love or perfect love/agape
in our fallen state we cant understand totally
Fire brimstone etc are methods of purification not eternal
but in a sense of time set in eras or temporary time

Our DNA stacked would go to the sun and back 70 times but is turned of due to our present nature

Why would the creator create only to perish what he loves
You cant have pure choice in a fallen body & mind
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Nobody is eternally damned to everlasting agony or misery, because the true Father is infinitely more loving and forgiving and good than most people assume He is. He wouldn’t even annihilate any of His creations, let alone torture them, because He is just that nice.

The entire idea of eternal damnation was created by God, and administered by demons(Yahweh, a false god who does God’s will by testing us) as a test to determine which people would be cowardly enough to support eternal torture of billions of their fellow humans just to save their own ass, and which people are so hateful and wicked that they genuinely believe that eternal torture is an acceptable punishment for temporary sins on earth. It isn’t an acceptable punishment.

The correct spiritual response is to reject the notion of eternal damnation while still having faith in Christ. Faith is more than knowing He is real; true faith means you know He is absolutely good and forgiving, and eternal damnation is neither good nor forgiving. It is an evil lie.

If you genuinely support the concept of eternal torture, you’re in for a rude awakening. God will still forgive you, but you’ll feel very shameful for your beliefs.... which everyone in Heaven will have access to forever.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


the concept was introduced by shits to control people. The creation makes no such thing.

thanks for your post... I opened this thread right after a HELL thread somebody started...Love to you 2

People need to comprehend that this jerk is NOT God. Its a cartoon than can never ever be truth.

NOT GOD
Understand that THOU ART WITH ME...... Is not the bible.
The point of this PERFECT STORM YOU ARE IN.. is to FIND THOU ART WITH ME IN SIDE OF YOU... OK....


KD New begin....
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Nobody is eternally damned to everlasting agony or misery, because the true Father is infinitely more loving and forgiving and good than most people assume He is. He wouldn’t even annihilate any of His creations, let alone torture them, because He is just that nice.

The entire idea of eternal damnation was created by God, and administered by demons(Yahweh, a false god who does God’s will by testing us) as a test to determine which people would be cowardly enough to support eternal torture of billions of their fellow humans just to save their own ass, and which people are so hateful and wicked that they genuinely believe that eternal torture is an acceptable punishment for temporary sins on earth. It isn’t an acceptable punishment.

The correct spiritual response is to reject the notion of eternal damnation while still having faith in Christ. Faith is more than knowing He is real; true faith means you know He is absolutely good and forgiving, and eternal damnation is neither good nor forgiving. It is an evil lie.

If you genuinely support the concept of eternal torture, you’re in for a rude awakening. God will still forgive you, but you’ll feel very shameful for your beliefs.... which everyone in Heaven will have access to forever.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


the concept was introduced by shits to control people. The creation makes no such thing.

thanks for your post... I opened this thread right after a HELL thread somebody started...Love to you 2

People need to comprehend that this jerk is NOT God. Its a cartoon than can never ever be truth.

NOT GOD
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL

That ‘jerk’ you always refer to DOES actually exist, and goes by the name of Yahweh/Allah. However, he is actually secretly working FOR God, doing the ‘dirty work’ of testing is for the reasons in my OP. Yahweh is a demon, but he too is saved eternally, as he only does what he does under God’s command.

It might seem really mean(it did to me at first), but God’s methods are perfect. Sometimes He has to hire angels to become demons on Earth to test us, since He can’t ever tell a single lie Himself, but a fallen angel working for Him can.
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Nobody is eternally damned to everlasting agony or misery, because the true Father is infinitely more loving and forgiving and good than most people assume He is. He wouldn’t even annihilate any of His creations, let alone torture them, because He is just that nice.

The entire idea of eternal damnation was created by God, and administered by demons(Yahweh, a false god who does God’s will by testing us) as a test to determine which people would be cowardly enough to support eternal torture of billions of their fellow humans just to save their own ass, and which people are so hateful and wicked that they genuinely believe that eternal torture is an acceptable punishment for temporary sins on earth. It isn’t an acceptable punishment.

The correct spiritual response is to reject the notion of eternal damnation while still having faith in Christ. Faith is more than knowing He is real; true faith means you know He is absolutely good and forgiving, and eternal damnation is neither good nor forgiving. It is an evil lie.

If you genuinely support the concept of eternal torture, you’re in for a rude awakening. God will still forgive you, but you’ll feel very shameful for your beliefs.... which everyone in Heaven will have access to forever.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


the concept was introduced by shits to control people. The creation makes no such thing.

thanks for your post... I opened this thread right after a HELL thread somebody started...Love to you 2

People need to comprehend that this jerk is NOT God. Its a cartoon than can never ever be truth.

NOT GOD
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL

That ‘jerk’ you always refer to DOES actually exist, and goes by the name of Yahweh/Allah. However, he is actually secretly working FOR God, doing the ‘dirty work’ of testing is for the reasons in my OP. Yahweh is a demon, but he too is saved eternally, as he only does what he does under God’s command.

It might seem really mean(it did to me at first), h. Nbut God’s methods are perfect. Sometimes He has to hire angels to become demons on Earth to test us, since He can’t ever tell a single lie Himself, but a fallen angel working for Him can.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


NO it does not exist.. it is false belief.

I teach here what The trinity.. in particular the Father IS.. and a divine fragment of the Father indwells MORAL PEOPLE seeking to grow. It is not a cartoon jerk that is believed in.

Allah is simply a term in a foreign language for God and so is Yahweh . The Father .. The Son and the HOLY spirit of the trinity has NO names.

and your god doesn't ever Hire angels to do dirty work..

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Understand that THOU ART WITH ME...... Is not the bible.
The point of this PERFECT STORM YOU ARE IN.. is to FIND THOU ART WITH ME IN SIDE OF YOU... OK....


KD New begin....
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That is 'torment' rather than 'torture'. The ones sent to hell are the only witnesses to what the fallen angels do on their last day of life before they are sent to the fiery lake.

Say you die yet you remain awake in a big crowd of other new immortals. Just how sad are you going to be compared to the ones destined for the lake? (it's a matter of perspective, we can't keep playing the victim forever)
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That is 'torment' rather than 'torture'. The ones sent to hell are the only witnesses to what the fallen angels do on their last day of life before they are sent to the fiery lake.

Say you die yet you remain awake in a big crowd of other new immortals. Just how sad are you going to be compared to the ones destined for the lake? (it's a matter of perspective, we can't keep playing the victim forever)
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There is no lake of fire. God is fully capable of fixing even the most hateful and faithless people with divine love, so why would He condemn them when He is perfectly capable of simply fixing them and granting them eternal life too? Everyone wins in that situation.

I’m not saying that God will respect or trust such people anywhere near as much as He respects His angels and Christ’s true servants, but they will still be saved.

Gods love is so perfect and ecstatic that literally nobody could ever resist it. It is just too good. He designed our Hearts and Souls, so He knows exactly how to make ANY Heart, no matter how fallen, see the light again. And once they see the truth off the light, they will immediately love Him and others because their pain will be healed.
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You're on the right track in your thinking Gabriel, but there's still a trace of damnation programming in you that you need to let go of.

Here you say some people will be eternally ashamed and shamed in Heaven - which would be just another kind of eternal damnation:

If you genuinely support the concept of eternal torture, you’re in for a rude awakening. God will still forgive you, but you’ll feel very shameful for your beliefs.... which everyone in Heaven will have access to forever.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


And here you say some people will be eternal second class citizens in heaven - which would be just another kind of eternal damnation:

I’m not saying that God will respect or trust such people anywhere near as much as He respects His angels and Christ’s true servants, but they will still be saved.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


The truth is that no-one is greater than anyone else in God's Kingdom. If you qualify to enter all imperfections will be washed away. Even the memory of ever having had them will be washed away.

Some people will earn entry with a wide margin, and some will just barely make it. But once they get accepted, they all reap the exact same reward.

This is what the parable about the wineyard workers is all about (Matthew 20:1-16). All "workers" got the exact same reward, even though some "workers" showed up in the last minute and did little "work".

Read Matthew 20:1-16 and realize your vain hope that "good" people such as yourself will be rewarded more than "less good" people is soundly rebuked by Jesus.

There are no second class citizens in God's Kingdom.
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the concept was introduced by shits to control people. The creation makes no such thing.

thanks for your post... I opened this thread right after a HELL thread somebody started...
People need to comprehend that this jerk is NOT God. Its a cartoon than can never ever be truth.


 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


 Quoting: Gabriel~


NO it does not exist.. it is false belief.

I teach here what The trinity.. in particular the Father IS.. and a divine fragment of the Father indwells MORAL PEOPLE seeking to grow. It is not a cartoon jerk that is believed in.

Allah is simply a term in a foreign language for God and so is Yahweh . The Father .. The Son and the HOLY spirit of the trinity has NO names.

and your god doesn't ever Hire angels to do dirty work..

 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


NOPE. people need to comprehend that you are full of the shit. You don't teach a damn thing, you spew new-age urantia crap. allah is not god and neither is your space alien jerks

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You're on the right track in your thinking Gabriel, but there's still a trace of damnation programming in you that you need to let go of.

Here you say some people will be eternally ashamed and shamed in Heaven - which would be just another kind of eternal damnation:

If you genuinely support the concept of eternal torture, you’re in for a rude awakening. God will still forgive you, but you’ll feel very shameful for your beliefs.... which everyone in Heaven will have access to forever.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


And here you say some people will be eternal second class citizens in heaven - which would be just another kind of eternal damnation:

I’m not saying that God will respect or trust such people anywhere near as much as He respects His angels and Christ’s true servants, but they will still be saved.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


The truth is that no-one is greater than anyone else in God's Kingdom. If you qualify to enter all imperfections will be washed away. Even the memory of ever having had them will be washed away.

Some people will earn entry with a wide margin, and some will just barely make it. But once they get accepted, they all reap the exact same reward.

This is what the parable about the wineyard workers is all about (Matthew 20:1-16). All "workers" got the exact same reward, even though some "workers" showed up in the last minute and did little "work".

Read Matthew 20:1-16 and realize your vain hope that "good" people such as yourself will be rewarded more than "less good" people is soundly rebuked by Jesus.

There are no second class citizens in God's Kingdom.
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You are absolutely correct. After the induction phase, all will feel His complete love and forgiveness.

Honestly I realized that I was being a bit too harsh and judgemental after I posted that. I was actually connected more to demonic energies at the time(it’s a very long explanation, I absolutely love and worship God and Christ, the demons just happen to be extremely telepathic with me) and it’s hard to channel such energies without some sort of pride. Demonic energy is difficult for someone like me to handle.

What I really believe is that people will feel strong shame when they first arrive in Heaven and are told the truth(just as a child is scolded when he does wrong), but after these people learn their lesson, God will remove all traces of guilt and shame forever. Their worldly beliefs will still be eternally recorded for others to see, but I’m pretty sure almost everyone will lose interest in viewing each other’s sins very quickly.

That being said, God DOES have favourites, just as we do. Hence why Michael and, well, Gabriel are Archangels who rank above the others.
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You're very wrong, but also not quite wrong at all.

Eternal damnation exists if you make certain choices (typically surrounding lying to yourself to justify believing hurtful thoughts and bad behavior towards others out of selfishness) and then fail to forgive yourself and everyone else in your life when it is imperative that you do so.

Hell will last as long as your unwillingness to forgive lasts. You do it to yourself. God doesn't do it to you.

And let me tell you, it fucking SUCKS. It is the most terrifying thing a human being can go through. And the worst part is, you can get yourself lost in a psychological and energetic hell so painful, it can be very difficult to get yourself out rationally.

But, no. God doesn't put you in hell. You put yourself there. And the ones who adamantly believe they'd never be bad, stupid, or sinful enough to "go there" are the ones most likely to.
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Oh it does cuz God sent me there to get straight .bro tim . let me tell you That will stop you from sucking eggs!
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I wish to be completely non-existent as I never existed in the first place.
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You won’t wish for non-existence once you die and see how incredibly beautiful and perfect Heaven and God is. Just the feeling of His love alone makes it all more than worth it! And there’s plenty of fun, clean things to do there too!
 Quoting: Gabriel~


Yes I will, there's nothing more peaceful then not existing at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77996452

I assume you’ve been badly hurt in this life. I know what it feels like to want to cease existing. I once wanted that before God told me the truth of how perfect and loving He and Heaven are.

Perfect eternal love in your Heart is literally infinitely more peaceful than annihilation. It’s not simple carnal pleasure like an orgasm, it transcends any description. There is no pain or violence or rudeness or hurtfulness in Heaven whatsoever. It’s simply not possible there.
 Quoting: Gabriel~


Rev_14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
Rev_20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

Luk_16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Luk_16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.

Joh_6:51 I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.

Joh_6:58 This is that bread which came down from heaven: not as your fathers did eat manna, and are dead: he that eateth of this bread shall live for ever.

Joh_8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.

Joh_12:34 The people answered him, We have heard out of the law that Christ abideth for ever: and how sayest thou, The Son of man must be lifted up? who is this Son of man?

Joh_14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Rom_1:25 Who changed the truth of Elohim into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
YAHshua is the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH, Name above all names.
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That ‘jerk’ you always refer to DOES actually exist, and goes by the name of Yahweh/Allah. However, he is actually secretly working FOR God, doing the ‘dirty work’ of testing is for the reasons in my OP. Yahweh is a demon, but he too is saved eternally, as he only does what he does under God’s command.

It might seem really mean(it did to me at first), h. Nbut God’s methods are perfect. Sometimes He has to hire angels to become demons on Earth to test us, since He can’t ever tell a single lie Himself, but a fallen angel working for Him can.



NO it does not exist.. it is false belief.

I teach here what The trinity.. in particular the Father IS.. and a divine fragment of the Father indwells MORAL PEOPLE seeking to grow. It is not a cartoon jerk that is believed in.

Allah is simply a term in a foreign language for God and so is Yahweh . The Father .. The Son and the HOLY spirit of the trinity has NO names.

and your god doesn't ever Hire angels to do dirty work..





You realize you are deeply possessed by the spirits you have as your"guides"
In regards to The Lord hiring evil angels to do things, correct He doesn't hire them, He tells them what to do, but as so few of you read the bible in entirety, all this ignorance is on display
YAHweh is the name of the demiurge, free masons and kabbalists love this particular Gnostic inversion trick, as it gets more seekers through their doors bums on seats and money in the plate
YAHVEH is the True name but because i am using english letters it still does not convey properly His Name, YHVH(Not YHWH), and then there are the visual aspects of the text's written by the finger of YHVH on the stone tablets versus english. So its much easier to say YAH which is accepted short form address to the most wonderful and amazing Being there is, has been, and will be.

Last Edited by FHL(C) on 02/19/2021 07:10 PM
YAHshua is the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH, Name above all names.
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Re: Eternal damnation/torture does not exist. The concept was introduced as a test.
IF YOU ARE "RAPTURED" (OUT OF YOUR BODY) TO "HEAVEN" AND JESUS TELEPATHICALLY ASKS YOU IF YOU WANT TO STAY, THEN YOU MUST REPLY "NO!".

HEAVEN IS A TRAP. IT IS GLORIOUS - BUT IS STILL A TRAP!

YOU WILL THEN BE SENT BACK DOWN TO YOUR BODY.

YOU MUST THEN ATTEMPT TO TRAVEL TO "HELL"!


WHY?

BECAUSE GOD IS HIDING BEYOND HELL!



IN 2003: I WAS DRAGGED TO HELL ITSELF - BUT SURVIVED AND RETURNED BACK TO EARTH!

GOD HIMSELF WAS WAITING FOR ME WHEN I RETURNED BACK TO EARTH FROM HELL!

HELL HAS NOW COME TO EARTH. YOU MUST MAKE IT THROUGH THE DARKNESS OF HELL ON EARTH!


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